There's an old community-made map, CP Broma, that uses a trigger entity that enables color correction ONLY when you're fighting around the capture area. I'm not sure how the map-maker got the idea, but it gives a cinematic feel to those fights, and it's super cool
@@oktayyildirim2911 i doubt its blended, but a simple fix is to put one middle man-color correction inbetween 2 different ones,it wont be perfect and probably hidden with geometry but it does the job
@@oktayyildirim2911 The amount of time it takes to fade between two color corrections is adjustable. It can be instant, it can take 1 second, it can take 100 seconds. It's all up to the mapper.
I had no clue TF2 had color correcting built into the developer console, I thought it was only used during the initial creation of the maps. Very cool!
Actually crazy that the source engine has full on color grading tools. This is a part of the engine i never even knew existed. Now combined with sfm's animation and shot editing, could the color grading, and maybe finding a way to add compositing and layers, make a Source Video Editor?
I recently learned about color correction when I was making a solely artistic map, and I have to say, it helps so much to change the look of a map without using any image editing tools! I also love that it is edited in-game, so you can see your changes in action, great video!
Look at the bloom of the fire on the right. It’s brighter. It’s more obvious when you’re actually playing in the map. The colors will appear more saturated
In TF2 art style the environments are not supposed to reach full color saturation. This is reserved for characters and VFX so that they stand out better.
I know I’m a few days late and it’s such a small detail but I LOVE how you added subtitles! It helps if I want to watch without audio or if I just can’t make out anything (my hearing sucks). Cheers!
color correction is used EVERYWHERE in video games but i think that valve handles it the best, mostly because they do it in a subtle way that doesn't have their levels look like either mexico from breaking bad or generic blue movie color grading
As a mapper, I'm surprised you're so confused about why color correction isn't more common in TF2. The answer is simple: too much color correction will make it hard to distinguish teams, and too little color correction is a waste of time for most people. All the examples of Valve-approved color correction in this video are nearly unnoticeable even in a direct comparison. It's a different story for games like Left 4 Dead, but TF2 maps don't really need color correction to look good. 2Fort looks fantastic even with the color correction turned off, so from a community mapper's perspective, is it worth it to spend an hour or two on this? I've been Source mapping for years and I've only felt the need to color correct on rare occasions.
Source 2 has color correction volumes that all effects separate parts of the map which is huge for developers who want multiple unique types of environments in a single map file.
You're good at making me intersted in something barely noticeable. I mean it's literally just a thing that makes it ever so slightly darker. It still looks the same.
I always wondered what the Color Correction setting does in tf2, next thing I am wondering is the recent patch note that states that the saturation has been increased because I see no difference... Who ever did that, they kinda did nothing...
Valve should seriously update the lighting on 5 of the very first maps of the game which are 2Fort, Gravel Pit, CP_Well, Granary, and Hydro. The lighting on these maps got messed up after many updates due to them using an outdated lighting system. These issues are shown in youtuber Crowbcat's "tf2 2007 and now" video.
Pretty sure you can just do ent_create color_correction with sv_cheats 1 to spawn a color correction entity and then use the colorcorrectionui, why this wont be a permanent solution it will let you edit and create color correction raw files in any map
Currently at the histogram section and, as a photographer, this is actually super valuable information as one of the few things i've never been taught or researched is how to manipulate the histogram. i know that fiddling with the arrows does stuff but I never actually knew *what* it was doing, and i knew that you mostly want an upside down u shape for most photos with no major peaks. also, what causes the peak in the white on the graph? i've seen that in several photos i've taken but i'm not really sure what causes it. is it just a single patch of actual white, like paper or clouds?
color correction is very important in Portal aswell. Without it, the maps look really gray instead of the iconic blueish white that were used to. Its really good when done well and there is an advanced graphics setting toggle for it
this is actually interesting for making tf2 video edits (frag videos, jump videos) because with this you could do heavy colour grading even before recording (if you use lawena etc). god damn. i wish i had the time to do tf2 edits again, this opens up a whole new world to me :D would probably require to add a colour correction entity to most maps though
So THIS is how some mappers make places much brighter than they are with as few lights as possible. I struggled immensely at the start of my mapping because the lighting always looks too bright or too dark and I though it has something to do with the HDR lighting. I almost wished I could just "brighten the face itself". Thank you for this tutorial!
the most unique usage of color correction in a map i've seen would be cs_noir as the creator uses it to cleverly portray a 1920s district with black and white visuals
I agree with neon. I think people are mistaken when they say that TF2 would look bad in Unity or Unreal Engine because those graphics engines are typically associated with realistic games. But the truth is that they are also used in a bunch of indie/cartoony low-poly games as well and can look amazing when dialed in.
But what about the, *"Enable Color Correction"* setting? Is that a standard color correction that gets applied across all of TF2? Or does it just enable/disable a map's local color correction?
omg i used to put the Lookup table on photoshop to cahnge these, i never knew there was an ingame tool for viewing and changing it; Now im wondering what other tools i missed that i could use to speed up mapping
I knew something was missing when I was playing the game, colors do really change a lot on the atmosphere and mood. I personally do like higher saturation like at 6:31 because it feels more alive, might burn my eyes after a few hours but I still will like it anyways
You can color correct in a variety of ways to emphasize certain areas. You can't just change the colors to whatever, since you're limited to only a few tools.
"If you wanna play around with colors all you have to do is change the channel from RGB to red green or blue and everything ive just explained will apply to theese, too." That rhymes really well edit: 4:27
I don't think you've edited anything beyond text in your life. The entire topic of this video revolves around one of THE most basic utilities in editing
@@bottlebeard this one is pretty basic, but i dont think therr are many non source games that have this. Its also obscure and not really used, so my point stands. But like you can build cubemaps, generate and edit nav meshes in-game, use console command to press a button on a destruction pda that you cant otherwise, set camera to orthographic mode, etc.
People who complain that raytracing doesn't look that different, don't realize how obtuse and tedious setting up lighting in a raster engine is. This is a great video.
@@Thornskade real time RT has a lot benefit for the future compared to baked lighting. esp for saving space. also you can get a midrange capable RT card for like $300 now.
I haven’t looked, but you can see for yourself if you enable color correction in-game (need sv-cheats 1 enabled) and if the color changes when you tick the enable box, then it uses color correction. The other way would be to open up the vmf file in the Hammer editor and see if the entity is present
There's an old community-made map, CP Broma, that uses a trigger entity that enables color correction ONLY when you're fighting around the capture area. I'm not sure how the map-maker got the idea, but it gives a cinematic feel to those fights, and it's super cool
That's astounding
you can use many color correction entities for every area and the game will swtich between them depending on the radius of the entity
Are the different settings blended between, or is it a sudden shift from one configuration to another?
@@oktayyildirim2911 i doubt its blended, but a simple fix is to put one middle man-color correction inbetween 2 different ones,it wont be perfect and probably hidden with geometry but it does the job
@@theultimatetrashman887 @oktayyildirim2911 they do get blended ! its p cool
@@oktayyildirim2911 The amount of time it takes to fade between two color corrections is adjustable. It can be instant, it can take 1 second, it can take 100 seconds. It's all up to the mapper.
@@QuintessentialWalrus Sick!
I had no clue TF2 had color correcting built into the developer console, I thought it was only used during the initial creation of the maps. Very cool!
me too, I just cant find the command plz what is it
I knew about the fog and navmesh editors, but this one was new to me too! Wish I knew about it sooner.
@@misterpexon its in the video when he adds the entity
scout that laughs at white wall
Most mentally sane 10000+ hours scout main
Scout Laughing At 2Fort Sink.
most sane scout main
scout who laughs at lights/white001.vmt
Come here cupcake
Map makers, please be gentle. I already have enough trouble figuring out what team a demo-man is on when I'm in dark areas.
ayo?
someone more racist than me
talking about tf2 maps is so underrated and it should be talked about more
that's why i love this channel
💙 💚 ❤️
@@LEDs Bubbles, Buttercup, and Blossom
@@thefairylovesniperwhat
@@SageGilbert191 powerpuff girls
@@microman502 o
Actually crazy that the source engine has full on color grading tools. This is a part of the engine i never even knew existed.
Now combined with sfm's animation and shot editing, could the color grading, and maybe finding a way to add compositing and layers, make a Source Video Editor?
There is text that you can add in SFM at certain times (not too sure about changing fonts tho), so I guess it could be treated as such...
I was today years old when I figured out, LED's youtube profile is litterally the Color.Correct tool
0:31 where is bro's flamethrower skedaddling off to?
Probably saw a cute phlog and walked over to take his shot
It spawned inside the floor and the physics engine gave up
0:32 the flametrower is walking?
Terrifying
i didn't even notice first time watching. xd
i notice that happening mostly on vphysics servers that have been running for several hours at a time
Lol that looked cartoonish
"where my flamethrower, it coudnt have just walk away"
the flamethrower in question:
I recently learned about color correction when I was making a solely artistic map, and I have to say, it helps so much to change the look of a map without using any image editing tools! I also love that it is edited in-game, so you can see your changes in action, great video!
Thanks!
"This is LED. Switching off."
Such a hard line
Sounds like code language for some agent movie. Reminds me of "Bravo Six. Going dark."
Saying "there's clearly a difference" at 0:12 made me bust a gut laughing and I'm not sure if that was intentional
Look at the bloom of the fire on the right. It’s brighter. It’s more obvious when you’re actually playing in the map. The colors will appear more saturated
In TF2 art style the environments are not supposed to reach full color saturation. This is reserved for characters and VFX so that they stand out better.
I know I’m a few days late and it’s such a small detail but I LOVE how you added subtitles! It helps if I want to watch without audio or if I just can’t make out anything (my hearing sucks). Cheers!
🥹
color correction is used EVERYWHERE in video games but i think that valve handles it the best, mostly because they do it in a subtle way that doesn't have their levels look like either mexico from breaking bad or generic blue movie color grading
As a mapper, I'm surprised you're so confused about why color correction isn't more common in TF2. The answer is simple: too much color correction will make it hard to distinguish teams, and too little color correction is a waste of time for most people. All the examples of Valve-approved color correction in this video are nearly unnoticeable even in a direct comparison. It's a different story for games like Left 4 Dead, but TF2 maps don't really need color correction to look good. 2Fort looks fantastic even with the color correction turned off, so from a community mapper's perspective, is it worth it to spend an hour or two on this? I've been Source mapping for years and I've only felt the need to color correct on rare occasions.
Source 2 has color correction volumes that all effects separate parts of the map which is huge for developers who want multiple unique types of environments in a single map file.
Source 1 has the exact same feature lol. Unfortunately it wasn't added until Left 4 Dead so TF2 doesn't have it IIRC
Also known as a LUT and is commonly used in games.
You're good at making me intersted in something barely noticeable.
I mean it's literally just a thing that makes it ever so slightly darker. It still looks the same.
Personal preference. Some people don’t mind decreasing their graphics quality, for example.
Bro spent 8 minutes explaining precisely why it's NOT just making it "ever so slightly darker" and you still said it does.
@@pokealong Because that's how Valve uses it? I don't understand why I have to explain what I mean to people. It's obvious already.
It actually makes it brighter in the case of 2Fort
I always wondered what the Color Correction setting does in tf2, next thing I am wondering is the recent patch note that states that the saturation has been increased because I see no difference... Who ever did that, they kinda did nothing...
Today I learned I'm colorblind
Valve should seriously update the lighting on 5 of the very first maps of the game which are 2Fort, Gravel Pit, CP_Well, Granary, and Hydro. The lighting on these maps got messed up after many updates due to them using an outdated lighting system. These issues are shown in youtuber Crowbcat's "tf2 2007 and now" video.
cp_emesis should use color correction to give that cinematic style effect
0:32 nah bro's weapon walked away 💀💀💀
“Aight imma head out”
"the difference is huge"
me not seeing the difference that much:
It could be TH-cam compression, but in the fire example, the burning flames on Steel emit a brighter glow
because i don't know how to use this thing
Pretty sure you can just do ent_create color_correction with sv_cheats 1 to spawn a color correction entity and then use the colorcorrectionui, why this wont be a permanent solution it will let you edit and create color correction raw files in any map
Oh, really? I didn’t know you could do that!
In the case of the fire at the start, I reckon the current exposure value (in HDR rendering) also has a large part in the discrepancy
Very well could be
tf2 players when they figure out what lightning is
Tf2's GENIUS hidden feature: How color correction makes tf2 the best game in gaming history
tf2 players when they get struck by lightning
So now you have to rename your channel to color correct
🥸
0:38 me seeing a new Adam Sandler movie
Currently at the histogram section and, as a photographer, this is actually super valuable information as one of the few things i've never been taught or researched is how to manipulate the histogram. i know that fiddling with the arrows does stuff but I never actually knew *what* it was doing, and i knew that you mostly want an upside down u shape for most photos with no major peaks.
also, what causes the peak in the white on the graph? i've seen that in several photos i've taken but i'm not really sure what causes it. is it just a single patch of actual white, like paper or clouds?
It was probably the clouds
@@LEDs that's what i figured, thanks!
holy shit the end montage of the color corrected version looks sooo good I need to know what settings you used
4:35 ctf_2fort was IN THE MATRIX ALL ALONG!??!?
color correction is very important in Portal aswell. Without it, the maps look really gray instead of the iconic blueish white that were used to. Its really good when done well and there is an advanced graphics setting toggle for it
this is actually interesting for making tf2 video edits (frag videos, jump videos) because with this you could do heavy colour grading even before recording (if you use lawena etc). god damn. i wish i had the time to do tf2 edits again, this opens up a whole new world to me :D would probably require to add a colour correction entity to most maps though
So THIS is how some mappers make places much brighter than they are with as few lights as possible. I struggled immensely at the start of my mapping because the lighting always looks too bright or too dark and I though it has something to do with the HDR lighting. I almost wished I could just "brighten the face itself".
Thank you for this tutorial!
Wow, this is such a big yet small issue, it really brings out the beauty of the game when correcting the colours.
Yeah, I believe every map can benefit from color correction at least a little bit, even if it’s subtle and there’s only one setting for the entire map
the most unique usage of color correction in a map i've seen would be cs_noir as the creator uses it to cleverly portray a 1920s district with black and white visuals
There's a new map on the workshop called Infestation that uses color correction too!
Any way to have multiple area-based color correction settings on a single map?
I believe so. I might make a video on it
I barely know what he's talking about but im still very interested in it.
(P.S: Nice Editing)
Thank you!
I wonder what TF2 on Unreal Engine 5 would look like.
there is a video on it!
it would look like straight ass because tf2 fans don't understand the tf2 art direction even if they think they do lol
Well it can look good, but need a lot of work to make it not worse than Source version.
I agree with neon. I think people are mistaken when they say that TF2 would look bad in Unity or Unreal Engine because those graphics engines are typically associated with realistic games. But the truth is that they are also used in a bunch of indie/cartoony low-poly games as well and can look amazing when dialed in.
@@randomcatdudedude noone understands it nowadays, not even valve
some times 2fort looks really good, then just normal 2fort
But what about the,
*"Enable Color Correction"*
setting?
Is that a standard color correction that gets applied across all of TF2?
Or does it just enable/disable a map's local color correction?
It seems to only affect the local color correction, yes. The setting has no effect on most maps, on 2Fort it's very noticeable
Please more hammer content! I started mapping a few months ago and would love tips and tricks!
Sure thing 👍
@@LEDs yippie
I think a cs map called noir use this to create a black and white color correction
omg i used to put the Lookup table on photoshop to cahnge these, i never knew there was an ingame tool for viewing and changing it; Now im wondering what other tools i missed that i could use to speed up mapping
Time to make a noir map with little saturation and high contrast
This man is in the hamer editor, pleas break him free
i was always aware of it but didnt' know how it worked or what it was for.
I wonder if you can trigger a change in color correction values for individual players upon entering or exiting an area.
🤫
0:11 The only difference I see is that on the right he's in a shadow so he's a bit darker
Look at the glow around his feet, that’s easier to notice
Finally, I can make GreenFortress2
I always forget to really utilize this in my maps, super useful for really giving it that extra bit of detail!
I knew something was missing when I was playing the game, colors do really change a lot on the atmosphere and mood. I personally do like higher saturation like at 6:31 because it feels more alive, might burn my eyes after a few hours but I still will like it anyways
Yeah, color correction can really make a map pop
Ey I remember using this function back in the day when I used SFM daily
It's a great function! And maybe even used in some sfm movies *whink whink
6:45 So I can turn 2Fort into Morioh... nice
I thought it was my old laptop just having some performance stuff to not overload with effects
and consecuently, shutting down
So you can make a map any color you want with just a few settings? Cool!
You can color correct in a variety of ways to emphasize certain areas. You can't just change the colors to whatever, since you're limited to only a few tools.
@@LEDs Yeah, it would be cool if there was a setting that individually changes the color of each thing.
Somebody is going to have major fun with this
"Let's first talk about color. Despite only making up 13% of the population.." xd
Oh man…
oh, so thats what color correction is. does this impact frames at all? it seems odd that it would do. should it be an option to turn off?
No, it doesn’t affect frames
@@LEDs why would someone want to turn it off?
Config makers claim it affects FPS, a lot of them recommend turning it off. It's a setting in the options menu
ofc someone with THAT pfp would make this video
is it possible to make a map black and white? i feel like and old styled map with a gimmick like that would be fun lol
mat_hsv 1
Pretty sure
Yeah you can do that in Shrek 2 too.
Is called Ambient Light.
But it's actually color correction doe.
Yes algorithm I would like to watch a 8 minute video on maps a game 2 years younger than me
That seems interesting!
"If you wanna play around with colors all you have to do is change the channel from RGB to red green or blue and everything ive just explained will apply to theese, too." That rhymes really well
edit: 4:27
Heavy on right hadn't had his sanvich yet
Could you color correct different maps and show how much it could affect gameolay or, fix some "ugly" oarts?
Yeah, I think a video where I remodel certain (ugly) parts of maps where I incorporate this would be cool
you can now put on the mexico filter
Now what I wonder is if this is in Source FilmMaker
This is actually a decent hammer editor guide
Thank you!
Very cool video
the light_env icon kinda rubs me the wrong way
Mayhaps the warm smile and encouraging thumbs-up of *OBSOLETE* will soothe your worries?
7:00 "Why are the 2fort green?"
Me, a colorblind person trying to differentiate the two-
Is this related to the Pyrovision goggles?
No
why does the icon for light_env look like that
LOL
I didn't know TF2 had color correction.
ill have to play with that
wait omg fellow cod hitmarker enjoyer? Yessirrrrr yktv
Does this apply to other source games like CSGO?
Yes
*0:39** most sane TF2 player*
light_env is staring into my soul
They added LED as a tool!
doesn't pd_watergate use it?
it shifts all the colors to a different hue once the round ends
TF2 is like PowerPoint. It had so much obscure built in features and tools that no one will use, and its a spaghetti mess, but it works
Well said
I don't think you've edited anything beyond text in your life. The entire topic of this video revolves around one of THE most basic utilities in editing
@@bottlebeard this one is pretty basic, but i dont think therr are many non source games that have this. Its also obscure and not really used, so my point stands. But like you can build cubemaps, generate and edit nav meshes in-game, use console command to press a button on a destruction pda that you cant otherwise, set camera to orthographic mode, etc.
I like your funny words, magic man 👍
okey, i will use this on my map
Cranking this shit up on wuttville gonna burn people’s eyes
People who complain that raytracing doesn't look that different, don't realize how obtuse and tedious setting up lighting in a raster engine is. This is a great video.
I mean, buy more expensive hardware so devs can be lazier doesn't sound like a great deal to gamers
@@Thornskade real time RT has a lot benefit for the future compared to baked lighting. esp for saving space. also you can get a midrange capable RT card for like $300 now.
@@banguseater Which will not run games with RT at any reasonable framerate.
Can't wait to see more joke maps with cursed colours.
Is thunder mountain have this ent or they use different techniques ?
I haven’t looked, but you can see for yourself if you enable color correction in-game (need sv-cheats 1 enabled) and if the color changes when you tick the enable box, then it uses color correction. The other way would be to open up the vmf file in the Hammer editor and see if the entity is present
It does have the entity. Frontier and Byre also have it
Source stuff always makes me feel dum
Ah yes
The fire looks the same?
SHADER MAGIC
bros been building his name just to post this vid, gj
Nice