I don’t think I’ve ever commented on a TH-cam video, but Jack Herrington is one of the best teachers I’ve seen on the channel. Thank you, Jack. Thank you for a fun time learning state in React!
Despite React's popularity it's so hard to find proper intermediate to advanced explanations about the nuances of the library. Seems like most React developers just copy paste and adjust code until they get the desired outcome. It's for this reason that I love Jack for his contribution to the tutorial landscape.
I learnt more about useState in 20 mins explained here than in a whole term of web development diploma from conventional education. I am so thankful to value-oriented YT channels like this one, are free sources of knowledge and value to everyone at the cost of an internet connection. Thank you for delivering this content about React
Agreed! I no longer want to learn from conventional education! They set a time frame and just throw everything to you and expect you to know and they considered their job done!
This was one of the most comprehensive tutorials I've watched,. I really like how you gave examples of why the state doesn't change when discussing useState.
I'm amazed at how good Jack Herrington is at teaching you in a surprising amount of detail how React hooks work, in just about one hour and a half (the rest of the video is about state management libraries). Props to him and freeCodeCamp.
Jack is actually one of few rare guys that covers and teaches you intermediate topics about react/next and typescript on his channel. One thing that I also like for him is that he with all that knowledge, you hear from the voice that he is still on to ground without any ego-trips, he is there to only teach you and transfer a knowledge. Good job Sensei!
This React State Management tutorial is a game-changer for anyone looking to level up their JavaScript skills! The explanations are clear, and the examples make even complex concepts easy to understand. I love how you break down state management techniques like useState, useReducer, and Context API. Definitely recommending this to anyone serious about mastering React! Keep up the amazing work!
Jack, You are AWESOME!!!! I think this tutorial was by far better than other react and state management's videos I've seen so far. Thanks for sharing your incredible knowledge.
what a great masterclass. definitely a must-watch video for all the people learning react. because of the level of detail and the clarity in jack's explanation
Awesome resource man, Thank you for not just explaining how state management works but how the underlying data structure is handled by JS for example by reference and by value.
Awesome tutorial. The only thing missing of the useState video is the classic example with 3 consecutive setCount functions that add 1 but the user get 1 again as a result. Then you teach about previous state!
Great course, Just one correction In useRef section if we do "useState([{id: idRef.current++ , name:"john"} , {id: idRef.current++, name: "Jane"} ])" then upon every re-render idRef value gets updated two times, that maybe because of the development mode which follows "mount unmount and then again mount lifecycle". Note: "On second entry you will get the id 8 instead of 4"
Alright... 7 minutes in and I can already tell this is a good video. So many "tutorials" gloss over the nuances of lines of code and this tutorial doesn't. This tutorial also goes a step further by showing code that you would think would work, but actually doesn't and explains why. For me, I need this. I need to know why something is happening, because under-the-hood/behind-the-scenes magic never works for me in the long run.
1:13:36 Jack, it gives an error as it is, useRef: it runs ok with values like 1, 2, 3... but then it comes obvious that the ++ increments in the useState are fired every time and the count increases by 5, if in strict mode, or by 3, if you comment out 'strict' mode., so what one can do is to assign numbers: id 1 and id 2 for John and Jane, and start the count with 3. (or 2 and pre-increment the id)
Thanks for this,but i don't understand reason behind this ,is it because setting useState which lead to render this it results in increamenting refId more times?
I have been learning react since months but this video just hit different! Jack is so amazing! Only after watching this video did I truly understood stage management!
I'm half way through and for the most part, really good teaching and insights. The useContext part I think was kind of all over the place, hard to follow.
The shift to Typescript at 1:13:53 significantly impairs the rest of the video. The noise of all that Typescript junk obfuscates the material I'm trying to absorb. I apparently have to go elsewhere to learn how to use "useContext", "createContext" and custom hooks in Javascript.
This might be the last state management video one needs to watch for a long time, until they hit any limitations (which I dont think they will for a long time!)
Hey Jack ! Awesome video man. Clear all the fundamentals in one shot. Can you let me know what VS Code extension you are using, that seems to be doing wonders as well.
I am on 1:13:40 and I was following along and everything was going fine but then the tutor switched to Typescript and starts teaching in it If they wanted to teach in Typescript they should sticked to it since the beginning or they should have notified that things will be taught in TS later in this course as a person who has no knowledge in TS now i have to learn it then i have come back to this course and resume this course it will just waste the time, for those who don't know TS
what extensions are you using? how can you run typescript file apart from others (when you open typescript workbook 19:30) - how does the VSCode shows the result in front of the code?
57:00 How are you preventing the second useEffect from attempting the fetch while selectedName is still null on mount? In my case, I'm forced to wrap the fetch in a "if (selectedName) {}" otherwise it attempts to fetch an invalid json and I get the error "Uncaught (in promise) SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data". Edit: 58:00 nevermind lol you got the error too it's just that your dev environment doesn't lock you out because you disabled strict mode
1:12:00 wouldn't it be valid here to just set id to names.length + 1? Not like there is any overhead in accessing the length property of an object right?
Awesome.. Tutorial Jack... purely delighted... Thank you so much!!! Do you mind telling me what is the theme that you used in visual studio code... really liked it and how all keywords are italic... please help me on this
Jack is awesome, very knowledgeable and insightful! Nevertheless, I got a few questions: 1. Example with Pokemon context used setSearch function inside a hook. Isn't it a good way to move such functions outside of a hook, changing its signature to expect dispatch as a parameter? As a benefit of this approach you'd make setSearch treeshakable, and wouldn't ship dead code in case a consumer doesn't even need it. 2. Regarding the zustand example... Your setAllPokemon function derives new state based on search criteria and a list of pokemons. The question is why do you prefer keep derived state in a store, and call filtering-sorting function two times in a store, instead of inversion the responsibility to filter sort pokemons IF it is needed to the consumer of the store. As far as I understand you could provide a selector for this purpose, aren't you? (i'm not sure since I haven't used zustand and frankly rarely use react). Btw this separation of concerns is what I liked when you showed vatio. 3. This one is more of a wish than of a question) I would really love to see you explaining the example with simple rxjs state management approach. I guess it would be kinda in a family of atomic state management, but light light weight, isn't it? And I also wondering about having a good analysis of pros and cons of those state managers compared to each other)
Hey @jherr, this video is really incredible! Great job! Any idea why Beedrill is the first Pokemon on the useContext results at 1:40:22, but not on the Jotai results at 2:18:51? Is it because you sliced a different amount? I really like the atomic model. I'm gonna have to try Jotai out.
at 44:27 code line number 7 console.log('running sort'); x2 'running sort' running sort' how do I got " x2 running sort running sort" these kind of information, which extension did he use?
Hello Jack. Thank you for your time and effort to help improve our skills. Question: I have modified your code slightly where I am importing an array of names instead of hard coding it in the components. I am running into a slight problem where I cannot add a coma and space between the names from the array. how can I add this minor detail? Thank you for your time!
Thanks for the great video Jack! Regarding useReducer, the current React 18 docs examples declare the reducer function *outside* the component body. Besides reusability, is there any reason to do it this way as opposed to declaring the reducer *inside* the component?
whats the extension he used? like when we want to type onClick function, the extension could show up the recomendation tag and symbol for typing the function.
Can someone explain to me what Jack does around the 31 minute mark with the {...state, ...action}. I understand the spread operator syntax, I just can't wrap my head around how this works with a more complex state. Like if I had an array of people with first & last name, how would this shortened reducer function know which values to change? I've spent an hour+ trying to work this out.
in 1:12: 50 regarding the idRef. When you add a name it goes with id 3 but then adding more names they go 5 by 5, i got after id 8, id 13, id 18.... Why it happens? Thanks in advance, just love this video, so useful!!! Thanks freeCodeCamp and thanks Jack @Jack Herrington
useRef section if we do "useState([{id: idRef.current++ , name:"john"} , {id: idRef.current++, name: "Jane"} ])" then upon every re-render idRef value gets updated two times, that maybe because of the development mode which follows "mount unmount and then again mount lifecycle". Note: "On second entry you will get the id 8 instead of 4"
Mr. Herrington, There is a bug in useRef() portion, during the last implementation on names = [{id: idRef.current++, name: 'Jack'}, {id: idRef.current++, name: 'Jill'}]. After the first render, when you click the button -> id: 3, name value will be added to names, which will cause a re-render but idRef maintains its previous value which was 3, which causes the idRef value to increment to 5 due to two idRef.current++ in the definition of names useState variable (but the 'names' state variable cannot take the incremented values outside of setNames setter function), so when the next time a button is clicked, {id: 5, name: whatever-i-input} is added and so on. I went to other sites to solve the issue, using the length of the names[] is suggested as the next best option for the id value but you will have to use the preincrement operator to run. Let me know if I am blowing hot air, I am fairly new to React and cannot compare with your expertise in the subject matter.
I don’t think I’ve ever commented on a TH-cam video, but Jack Herrington is one of the best teachers I’ve seen on the channel. Thank you, Jack. Thank you for a fun time learning state in React!
Despite React's popularity it's so hard to find proper intermediate to advanced explanations about the nuances of the library. Seems like most React developers just copy paste and adjust code until they get the desired outcome. It's for this reason that I love Jack for his contribution to the tutorial landscape.
I feel the same way.
You are right, Jack, Theo & some other dudes help with more advanced / senior things, rather than typical todo lists and stuff
yeah same here lol
I'm guilty
Samee ❤
This instructor is really skilled at explaining in just enough detail, good choice!
I learnt more about useState in 20 mins explained here than in a whole term of web development diploma from conventional education.
I am so thankful to value-oriented YT channels like this one, are free sources of knowledge and value to everyone at the cost of an internet connection.
Thank you for delivering this content about React
I just posted a video about the same topic (in 2023) - maybe this could be interesting for you as well. 😉
Agreed! I no longer want to learn from conventional education! They set a time frame and just throw everything to you and expect you to know and they considered their job done!
This man is the reason I went from junior to medior. You seriously must watch his videos if you're serious about a career with React.
This is the most important video about React I have ever seen in over 3 years of using React. Thank you!
This was one of the most comprehensive tutorials I've watched,. I really like how you gave examples of why the state doesn't change when discussing useState.
I'm amazed at how good Jack Herrington is at teaching you in a surprising amount of detail how React hooks work, in just about one hour and a half (the rest of the video is about state management libraries). Props to him and freeCodeCamp.
This is seriously such a great instructor!
I learnt HTML and CSS from your channel from scratch and now I am posting my own web dev content! Thank you for your work :)
wow, this is actually super important and it was so hard to actually find something that covers these concepts so well. thank you!
Jack is maybe the best intermediate content creator. Glad to see him here!
Best tutorial. This is so helpful. Words cannot explain how grateful I am to have access to invaluable educational material like this.
Jack is actually one of few rare guys that covers and teaches you intermediate topics about react/next and typescript on his channel.
One thing that I also like for him is that he with all that knowledge, you hear from the voice that he is still on to ground without any ego-trips, he is there to only teach you and transfer a knowledge.
Good job Sensei!
Thank you!
I agree !
@@Vincent_A.Freeman true
This React State Management tutorial is a game-changer for anyone looking to level up their JavaScript skills! The explanations are clear, and the examples make even complex concepts easy to understand. I love how you break down state management techniques like useState, useReducer, and Context API. Definitely recommending this to anyone serious about mastering React! Keep up the amazing work!
Jack, You are AWESOME!!!! I think this tutorial was by far better than other react and state management's videos I've seen so far. Thanks for sharing your incredible knowledge.
I just posted a video about the same topic (in 2023) - maybe this could be interesting for you as well. 😉
what a great masterclass. definitely a must-watch video for all the people learning react. because of the level of detail and the clarity in jack's explanation
easily the best react video and the best teacher. thank you for doing this !
Awesome resource man, Thank you for not just explaining how state management works but how the underlying data structure is handled by JS for example by reference and by value.
Jack is great. Do whatever he tells you to do. You will thank him later.
It's Incredible! Got the actual understanding of state management from this. Kudos to Jack!
Highly instructive, thank you. 18 minutes in, I can't wait to watch the rest
This is a really great mini course. Loved it! I went and followed Jack's channel as well! Thanks for putting this together.
Awesome tutorial.
The only thing missing of the useState video is the classic example with 3 consecutive setCount functions that add 1 but the user get 1 again as a result.
Then you teach about previous state!
Great course, Just one correction In useRef section if we do "useState([{id: idRef.current++ , name:"john"} , {id: idRef.current++, name: "Jane"} ])" then upon every re-render idRef value gets updated two times, that maybe because of the development mode which follows "mount unmount and then again mount lifecycle". Note: "On second entry you will get the id 8 instead of 4"
Thanks bro I was thinking about this
just found that out yesterday and commented. one better just set the numbers in the useState initial values.
I absolutely love Jack’s teaching style 🥇🙌
Alright... 7 minutes in and I can already tell this is a good video. So many "tutorials" gloss over the nuances of lines of code and this tutorial doesn't. This tutorial also goes a step further by showing code that you would think would work, but actually doesn't and explains why. For me, I need this. I need to know why something is happening, because under-the-hood/behind-the-scenes magic never works for me in the long run.
1:13:36 Jack, it gives an error as it is, useRef: it runs ok with values like 1, 2, 3... but then it comes obvious that the ++ increments in the useState are fired every time and the count increases by 5, if in strict mode, or by 3, if you comment out 'strict' mode., so what one can do is to assign numbers: id 1 and id 2 for John and Jane, and start the count with 3. (or 2 and pre-increment the id)
Thanks for this!
Thanks for this,but i don't understand reason behind this ,is it because setting useState which lead to render this it results in increamenting refId more times?
I did a hit on like button, when i was at 17:11 ( setLIst( [...list, name ] ) ). Thank you so much master, for this vauable source
Thank you very much for this course, I think you explain the best among the lecturers.
Thanks!
Jack is the best talking about React and Next 🔥🔥
Jack is a monument and I'm so glad to see him here on FCC ❤
Loved the squirrel raiding the bird feeder in the start of the video 😂
I'm interested to know how to create this with TypeScript.
Excellent tutorial.
I will spend the next couple of days to build alongside.
best 2:46 of the day! thanks for sharing!
I have been learning react since months but this video just hit different! Jack is so amazing! Only after watching this video did I truly understood stage management!
your always great ,right time providing right course for the subscriber .thanks for the educator
I've been using React for about a year and a half, but I think I got 50% better at React by just watching this course.
A master piece!! The vscode configurations is from another planet 🤯 Can you share please
console ninja
Thanks for this, it's really worth the time I have put into it.
Next make a Advanced React course. it will help me greatly in my job. Thank you for all the awesome content.
Fantastic tutorial!! Thank you.
Thank you sir. Your useEffect video was very informative. i learned the why along with the how
I'm half way through and for the most part, really good teaching and insights. The useContext part I think was kind of all over the place, hard to follow.
The shift to Typescript at 1:13:53 significantly impairs the rest of the video. The noise of all that Typescript junk obfuscates the material I'm trying to absorb. I apparently have to go elsewhere to learn how to use "useContext", "createContext" and custom hooks in Javascript.
45 minutes watched BTW what a great Tutorial !!! awesome
no words can describe my appreciation
This might be the last state management video one needs to watch for a long time, until they hit any limitations (which I dont think they will for a long time!)
You know it's going to be a good React tutorial when the instructor doesn't use CRA
Best of the Best, ty Mr.Herrington a lot. You are really awesome
I already know this will be epic..
Best instructor
52:39 This man is so good at teaching....
you are the master of javascript
Cca 17:30
Why not using the "prevState" for updating the array?
Masterpiece!
This man is just amazing !!!
Great refresher , Yet learnt some new things.
Hey Jack !
Awesome video man. Clear all the fundamentals in one shot. Can you let me know what VS Code extension you are using, that seems to be doing wonders as well.
Quokka.js is the one you are amazed by I guess. Or possibly, console-ninja
did you get the answer dude? let me know if you did.
for auto complete? I think its Tabnine extensions
@@Ujedkemal for auto complete? I think its Tabnine extensions
this is absolute gold
this is really well explained. thank you
Will keep this video for future reference. Thank you freecodecamp and jack. I just wish recoil was part of this video.
Jotai is, and that is very close and IMHO better.
@@jherrsir if you vouch for it, I will definitely definitely look into it.
This is actually gold
One of the greate video. 🤩🤩
This is really and awesome video. Many thanks for this!
My eye just pop open. Jack thanks
High quality intermediate to advanced React contect
Hi, Thank you for your awesome video....what is your extension to complete code in react
I am on 1:13:40 and I was following along and everything was going fine but then the tutor switched to Typescript and starts teaching in it If they wanted to teach in Typescript they should sticked to it since the beginning or they should have notified that things will be taught in TS later in this course as a person who has no knowledge in TS now i have to learn it then i have come back to this course and resume this course it will just waste the time, for those who don't know TS
After a year, do you still believe it was a waste of time?
Thank you, that's a very nice video!
Jack, please what's your font and your VSCode theme?
thank you for the amazing tutorial
Superb course
what extensions are you using? how can you run typescript file apart from others (when you open typescript workbook 19:30) - how does the VSCode shows the result in front of the code?
That's Quokka.
Excellent teacher!!!!
Just after watching 15 mins, my mind be like 🤯😮💨 (how a man can make us to understand something into this level)
@AKSHAY sorry I didn't get you..
As well as I am from south India, so I didn't understand Hindi in code with harry videos
@AKSHAY hey by the way, do you know any best react native course.. 😁
57:00 How are you preventing the second useEffect from attempting the fetch while selectedName is still null on mount? In my case, I'm forced to wrap the fetch in a "if (selectedName) {}" otherwise it attempts to fetch an invalid json and I get the error "Uncaught (in promise) SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data".
Edit: 58:00 nevermind lol you got the error too it's just that your dev environment doesn't lock you out because you disabled strict mode
1:12:00 wouldn't it be valid here to just set id to names.length + 1? Not like there is any overhead in accessing the length property of an object right?
1:41:51 - Where i last stopped
Awesome.. Tutorial Jack... purely delighted... Thank you so much!!! Do you mind telling me what is the theme that you used in visual studio code... really liked it and how all keywords are italic... please help me on this
on 28:35 wouldn't it be better to use forEach instead of map? Since map creates a new array which is not necessary here
thanks for this great video but i wanna ask what is the name of the compiler that he is using and is it free?
Jack is awesome, very knowledgeable and insightful! Nevertheless, I got a few questions:
1. Example with Pokemon context used setSearch function inside a hook. Isn't it a good way to move such functions outside of a hook, changing its signature to expect dispatch as a parameter? As a benefit of this approach you'd make setSearch treeshakable, and wouldn't ship dead code in case a consumer doesn't even need it.
2. Regarding the zustand example... Your setAllPokemon function derives new state based on search criteria and a list of pokemons. The question is why do you prefer keep derived state in a store, and call filtering-sorting function two times in a store, instead of inversion the responsibility to filter sort pokemons IF it is needed to the consumer of the store. As far as I understand you could provide a selector for this purpose, aren't you? (i'm not sure since I haven't used zustand and frankly rarely use react). Btw this separation of concerns is what I liked when you showed vatio.
3. This one is more of a wish than of a question) I would really love to see you explaining the example with simple rxjs state management approach. I guess it would be kinda in a family of atomic state management, but light light weight, isn't it?
And I also wondering about having a good analysis of pros and cons of those state managers compared to each other)
hey I know that guy ✅!I have seen them before 🙂👍
Great vid!
awesome video, does anyone knows what extension he uses for shortcuts in react (or more in general what do you guys would suggest?)
you always surprise me with the super white bg.
Hey @jherr, this video is really incredible! Great job!
Any idea why Beedrill is the first Pokemon on the useContext results at 1:40:22, but not on the Jotai results at 2:18:51? Is it because you sliced a different amount?
I really like the atomic model. I'm gonna have to try Jotai out.
because it slices before sorting
shoud slice after sorting
at 44:27 code line number 7 console.log('running sort'); x2 'running sort' running sort' how do I got " x2 running sort running sort" these kind of information, which extension did he use?
console ninja
Hello Jack. Thank you for your time and effort to help improve our skills. Question: I have modified your code slightly where I am importing an array of names instead of hard coding it in the components. I am running into a slight problem where I cannot add a coma and space between the names from the array. how can I add this minor detail? Thank you for your time!
Thanks for the great video Jack! Regarding useReducer, the current React 18 docs examples declare the reducer function *outside* the component body. Besides reusability, is there any reason to do it this way as opposed to declaring the reducer *inside* the component?
is nice tutorial
What is the name of Extensions VsCode?...
is very good Extensions I need then
"How coooool is thaaat?" :D
whats the extension he used? like when we want to type onClick function, the extension could show up the recomendation tag and symbol for typing the function.
would love to see a tutorial about swr in terms of state management, and maybe compare it to react query
Pass by value vs pass by reference in terms of state, no one ever mentioned this in any video or blog tutorial I saw in my whole life.
Can someone explain to me what Jack does around the 31 minute mark with the {...state, ...action}. I understand the spread operator syntax, I just can't wrap my head around how this works with a more complex state. Like if I had an array of people with first & last name, how would this shortened reducer function know which values to change? I've spent an hour+ trying to work this out.
in 1:12: 50 regarding the idRef. When you add a name it goes with id 3 but then adding more names they go 5 by 5, i got after id 8, id 13, id 18.... Why it happens? Thanks in advance, just love this video, so useful!!! Thanks freeCodeCamp and thanks Jack @Jack Herrington
useRef section if we do "useState([{id: idRef.current++ , name:"john"} , {id: idRef.current++, name: "Jane"} ])" then upon every re-render idRef value gets updated two times, that maybe because of the development mode which follows "mount unmount and then again mount lifecycle". Note: "On second entry you will get the id 8 instead of 4"
Nice course
I like your teaching technic
Mr. Herrington, There is a bug in useRef() portion, during the last implementation on names = [{id: idRef.current++, name: 'Jack'}, {id: idRef.current++, name: 'Jill'}]. After the first render, when you click the button -> id: 3, name value will be added to names, which will cause a re-render but idRef maintains its previous value which was 3, which causes the idRef value to increment to 5 due to two idRef.current++ in the definition of names useState variable (but the 'names' state variable cannot take the incremented values outside of setNames setter function), so when the next time a button is clicked, {id: 5, name: whatever-i-input} is added and so on. I went to other sites to solve the issue, using the length of the names[] is suggested as the next best option for the id value but you will have to use the preincrement operator to run. Let me know if I am blowing hot air, I am fairly new to React and cannot compare with your expertise in the subject matter.
Ran into the same problem. I just settled with setting IDs to names.length + 1.