In the fall of '72, my dad and I went to the Plymouth dealer to shop for a new family sedan. The dealer and my dad were pals and he took us to his back lot and showed us a new, unsold 426 hemi/4 speed Superbird. Couldn't find a buyer for it. He offered it to my dad for well under invoice, but dad told him my mom would kill him if he brought it home. Dad had already almost been murdered over trading the family station wagon for a new 'Cuda 340/4speed a few years prior! Thanks for the memories!
Nice story.....I,m just 51...But knew/Talked to alot of guys your age from back in the day.....even our local dealership Presnell motors in Elizabethton ,Tn. Had a Superbird in showroom that sat were nobody wanted back in the day. But man look what they bring now!
@@oceania2385 They are not rumors. Superbirds were very difficult to sell new, and some were converted to "regular" Road Runners in a final attempt to sell. They were ridiculed by the buying public for their appearance. I seriously doubt any Superbird was ever used as a demo. The one I saw in the fall of '72 had been sitting on the dealer's lot for almost 3 years. It had less than 10 miles on its odometer.
Fantastic Plymouth that looks like something between the spaceship or submarine! I can't imagine how wonderful was to see it in the street many moons ago when it was out. Thanks guys!
I used to have over two dozen classic cars and over a hundred collector guitars. I realized that I was nuts. Down to 4 cars and 10 guitars. If you don’t use these possessions regularly, why have them. 66 Cadillac, 68 GTX, 67 GT350 clone and a Lexus LC500 are all that’s left. Manageable.
My neighbor has a Superbird that is the same color. His has a 440 4 barrel, with a 4-speed. It came with 3.54 gears, but he had me put 4.10 gears in it. I rebuilt the 4-speed, with some improvements added.
I'm surprised that he let you take it out on wet roads. I would have told you to come back when it was dry. For me, for that kind of money, if it doesn't have 3 pedals on the floor, I'd pass. Nice car.
Hi Peter. Been watching your show a long time. What do you mean a ground up rebuild never drives the same? Do they squeak, do they handle worse or better. Wish I had the chance to compare myself in person to understand what you mean. I believe you have a valid point knowing your deep understanding from restoring and own personal knowledge. Thank you for years of great content.
Really nice car, If your just going to cruise it once in a while the column shift seems okay to me. The looks and 6-pack help overcome the transmission configuration . Either this car will be bought and sit like artwork in somebody's garage or bought as an investment vehicle and driven sparingly and 180k investment now returning 125k ouch. He can sit on it, or just say heck with it might as well drive the thing and get priceless enjoyment value over monetary . You only live once drive it.
Hopefully the owner hung on to it and sold it during the bubble mkt of 21-22. If not, he'll be holding on for sev more yrs as the mkt is headed down and hasn't reached bottom yet, let alone rebounded.
It'll never go back to the highs as the boomers die off, they will still pull money but nothing like they use to. A lot of bone stock restored, chalk mark, date coded blah blah cars will be modified and driven again, owner will be a car shows saying the thing traded hands for 6 figures back in the 90's and he got it for less than a new hellcat. Mark. My. Words.
as a kid i had a black 70 Road Runner 440 six pack 4 speed.. had lot fun with it one day i had a flat tire and a friend went to pull the spare out and said whats these brackets in the trunk for ? i said i Don,t know i beat on it for two more years two clutches later ? a guy helping me look in the trunk said holly shhh this is a super bird i traded it of who knew . i had lot,s of mopar,s as a kid in Seattle wash the were in back yards.
So True on the driving part....I have had alot of chevelles through the years.....The best was a 1968 chevelle Malibu 4-door 307/glide car that I bought from original owner/Lady with a tad over 26,000 on it....Closest thing i ever owned as far as a New one would had been....ALOT diff. than this Jewel for sure. Only original once like they say.
Well, thank you, TeamS …. ALWAYS OF interest, as I really “ passed “on ever, buying SUPERBIRD : after seeing in DOWNTOWN Lafayette INDIANA, SPRing 1970 …,TO LOng , garish, & we not quite up to new Car buy then, just Graduating from Pharmacy School,June 70… Real interestingly, FORD DEALER could **not let me take a BOSS 302 ( Blue ?, 4Speed) overnight ( imagine that): the MOPAR DEALER LET me DART340/Pursuit ?? Prep,but 4Door/triple Greens….amazing fast…..Summary, getting Coronet **500/Ralley red/ BLACK VINYL/383/ loaded in late summer 1970 @$3100 FULL……good times,
,,Peter your so hella disrespectful, if I was that guy I woulda said,,I know we known each other a long time, but at a buk25 theres door,, dont let hit you on the way out ! hahahahaha
He’s going to sell a car that can never be replaced to buy a car that can. He doesn’t deserve that super bird. Not sure what to think of either of these guys, they are dealing with cars that have real souls but act like they are flipping Hondas. He floats the excuse that Mopars never came back (their value) after the 2008 when collector cars regained some sanity. Rare Hemi Cuda are going for millions so we know he’s wrong. They are check book hot rodders, that feel kinda greasy.
In the fall of '72, my dad and I went to the Plymouth dealer to shop for a new family sedan. The dealer and my dad were pals and he took us to his back lot and showed us a new, unsold 426 hemi/4 speed Superbird. Couldn't find a buyer for it. He offered it to my dad for well under invoice, but dad told him my mom would kill him if he brought it home. Dad had already almost been murdered over trading the family station wagon for a new 'Cuda 340/4speed a few years prior! Thanks for the memories!
Nice story.....I,m just 51...But knew/Talked to alot of guys your age from back in the day.....even our local dealership Presnell motors in Elizabethton ,Tn. Had a Superbird in showroom that sat were nobody wanted back in the day. But man look what they bring now!
If the rumors are true the Superbirds were so hard to sell they would force the salesman to daily drive them as "demos' until they sold.
The attitude during that time was "those cars look ridiculous"
@@jeffkeenan5439 I think at the time people thought "Wtf is that in the driveway Earl ?" lol
@@oceania2385 They are not rumors. Superbirds were very difficult to sell new, and some were converted to "regular" Road Runners in a final attempt to sell. They were ridiculed by the buying public for their appearance. I seriously doubt any Superbird was ever used as a demo. The one I saw in the fall of '72 had been sitting on the dealer's lot for almost 3 years. It had less than 10 miles on its odometer.
I could listen to PK talk about cars all day long. What a legend.
Fantastic Plymouth that looks like something between the spaceship or submarine! I can't imagine how wonderful was to see it in the street many moons ago when it was out. Thanks guys!
Column auto, bench seat....
AWESOME ending. Well done, Sir
I used to have over two dozen classic cars and over a hundred collector guitars. I realized that I was nuts. Down to 4 cars and 10 guitars. If you don’t use these possessions regularly, why have them. 66 Cadillac, 68 GTX, 67 GT350 clone and a Lexus LC500 are all that’s left. Manageable.
Lane collection 👎 worse design year Cadillac 68 gta look like 🚕 a clone? 😂 and a Lexus that looks like a clog shoe 👞 🇳🇱
Super cool! Enjoy them all!
@Jeffgordonfan24hesthegoat 🤡 a 68 GTX is legendary. I’m sure it doesn’t stack up to your moms Corolla though lol
@@jonthebuildingmanager2896 it the most boring design and Plymouths are so low class 😂 and it sure as hell can’t beat my dad accord that’s forsue 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Jeffgordonfan24hesthegoat ….your hero drove a Chevy Lumina in a circles, so 🤷🏻♂️ not much else we can say
This was awesome. Sometimes it’s not about making the deal. It’s about the people and the cars. Great production and video BTW, thank you for sharing
So true!
VERY cool car. Thanks for the show. Cheers from Edmonton
Amazing to see the panel fit from the factory on these cars compared to cars today.
My neighbor has a Superbird that is the same color. His has a 440 4 barrel, with a 4-speed. It came with 3.54 gears, but he had me put 4.10 gears in it. I rebuilt the 4-speed, with some improvements added.
I loved the show when it came out
Since a 1969 Charger Daytona Hemi 4 speed just sold for $3,000,000, I would say the market is back.
Great vid!!!!!!!!!!! 🤜🤛
Great looking car. 😊😊😊
Yes it is!!!
I'm surprised that he let you take it out on wet roads. I would have told you to come back when it was dry. For me, for that kind of money, if it doesn't have 3 pedals on the floor, I'd pass. Nice car.
Hi Peter. Been watching your show a long time. What do you mean a ground up rebuild never drives the same? Do they squeak, do they handle worse or better. Wish I had the chance to compare myself in person to understand what you mean. I believe you have a valid point knowing your deep understanding from restoring and own personal knowledge. Thank you for years of great content.
peter is straight from matrix!
i remember when those cars came out the plymouth dealer in my home town could not give them away list price was around 4300 time changes everything
pete i remember seeing this on your show several years ago. ill bet 150k sounds like a bargain to you now lol
I have the identical car. I have both buildsheets for it. 46000 miles
Really nice car, If your just going to cruise it once in a while the column shift seems okay to me. The looks and 6-pack help overcome the transmission configuration . Either this car will be bought and sit like artwork in somebody's garage or bought as an investment vehicle and driven sparingly and 180k investment now returning 125k ouch. He can sit on it, or just say heck with it might as well drive the thing and get priceless enjoyment value over monetary . You only live once drive it.
$125,000 and you really thought he’d let it go. Friends or friends I would walk you outside and shut the door
Even though the video is scripted, he still comes off as the typical car flipper that he is.
Nice pay day when he takes it back to Legendary and sells it for $160,000
Hopefully the owner hung on to it and sold it during the bubble mkt of 21-22. If not, he'll be holding on for sev more yrs as the mkt is headed down and hasn't reached bottom yet, let alone rebounded.
It'll never go back to the highs as the boomers die off, they will still pull money but nothing like they use to. A lot of bone stock restored, chalk mark, date coded blah blah cars will be modified and driven again, owner will be a car shows saying the thing traded hands for 6 figures back in the 90's and he got it for less than a new hellcat. Mark. My. Words.
They couldn't sell these when they were new. Dealers actually removed the nose and wing to sell them.
as a kid i had a black 70 Road Runner 440 six pack 4 speed.. had lot fun with it one day i had a flat tire and a friend went to pull the spare out and said whats these brackets in the trunk for ? i said i Don,t know i beat on it for two more years two clutches later ? a guy helping me look in the trunk said holly shhh this is a super bird i traded it of who knew . i had lot,s of mopar,s as a kid in Seattle wash the were in back yards.
So True on the driving part....I have had alot of chevelles through the years.....The best was a 1968 chevelle Malibu 4-door 307/glide car that I bought from original owner/Lady with a tad over 26,000 on it....Closest thing i ever owned as far as a New one would had been....ALOT diff. than this Jewel for sure. Only original once like they say.
I would never sell a Superbird to get a GT unless it was an original GT40, but you would have to add a buttload of money to get one of those.
Well, thank you, TeamS …. ALWAYS OF interest, as I really “ passed “on ever, buying SUPERBIRD : after seeing in DOWNTOWN Lafayette INDIANA, SPRing 1970 …,TO LOng , garish, & we not quite up to new Car buy then, just Graduating from Pharmacy School,June 70… Real interestingly, FORD DEALER could **not let me take a BOSS 302 ( Blue ?, 4Speed) overnight ( imagine that): the MOPAR DEALER LET me DART340/Pursuit ?? Prep,but 4Door/triple Greens….amazing fast…..Summary, getting Coronet **500/Ralley red/ BLACK VINYL/383/ loaded in late summer 1970 @$3100 FULL……good times,
,,Peter your so hella disrespectful, if I was that guy I woulda said,,I know we known each other a long time, but at a buk25 theres door,, dont let hit you on the way out ! hahahahaha
Take your sunglasses off when negotiating a deal
Very unprofessional
Why doesn't it go to auction
I'd be all in at $15,000
No one in their right mind would sell a Superbird for 'car space'. C'mon mate pull the other one it plays jingle bells.
Nice car. But not a sexy car with the bench seat and column shift obviously. I bet a German buyer would take it. Autobahn flyer 🤘
It's still astounds me to this day that these cars were available with a bench seat and column shift. Just doesn't fit that car at all.
He’s going to sell a car that can never be replaced to buy a car that can. He doesn’t deserve that super bird. Not sure what to think of either of these guys, they are dealing with cars that have real souls but act like they are flipping Hondas. He floats the excuse that Mopars never came back (their value) after the 2008 when collector cars regained some sanity. Rare Hemi Cuda are going for millions so we know he’s wrong. They are check book hot rodders, that feel kinda greasy.
Pete made a huge mistake not buying this car for $150,000
Bet your happy he left it for you the proud new owner.
He didn't want it to start with, Trying to skin him.
“Dead ass”
So the guy doesn't want to sell it and get something for it, he'd rather get nothing.
If he had utcat legendary he'd probably want $225 for it !Thier cars are great but the prices are way too high!
Speculators are annoying.
I'll give you $150,000