Patty was by FAR the best female character on the show. And the actress who played her? She’s a GREAT actress. I loved her in Shooter when she played Julie Swagger.
You explained it well, I just hated how he literally tells his ex he’s the flash and uses her as bait for zoom AFTER breaking up with patty, then when it’s over he doesn’t even care to try to get back with her after 😭
Maybe that was part of his growth or what he took as a lesson of his time with her, to pretty much reveal himself to anyone who asks why he should trust him
@@yingyangkitty4091 I mean not really hell the only lesson He learned that was related to his secret identity was the fact that He shouldn't tell his loved ones his identity so that they aren't in danger (case and point Patty), yet in s9 He does something that puts his family and loved ones in even more danger
When I saw her in the boys, I knew she looked kind of Familiar to me. First she dated Barry then got involved with Homelander and was married to Butcher.
Yep, she was mentioned in the first episode of season 7 by Kristen Kramer; she said that Patty and Julian Albert were both reassigned (even if Julian had already been m) I know that CC said "quote unquote recasted her" so it was pretty vague in the first place, but it did give me pause and made me look the Arrowverse wiki up because that didn't ring a bell at all. I mean, I remember Saoirse-Monica Jackson playing her in "The Flash" (2023), but in the CW Flash show? She sadly never came back... oh well, even I kinda stopped paying attention to that show post-season 3. I'd watch an episode here and there if a charactor or actor that I like showed up, or for cross-overs, but aside from that, I never became a huge fan like I was of other CW DC shows like Arrow, Superman & Lois, or Stargirl. The supporting cast of The Flash (and most of the villains) just didn't appeal to me post-S3...
I was mad that Patty left. Then when we got towards the end of season 2 Iris confessed and i felt nothing from it because it felt rushed. Even the dialogue left question marks why are they doing this. They spent so much time with Patty Iris never even considered she had feelings.
Honestly Patty is what Iris should have been, hell the Actress should have been the Iris Character and if Iris was a Cop it would open new layers to the Show but like not having Cisco and Liza Together, we can’t have Nice Things in the Arrowverse.
I don't remember Patty being very well received back in the day. In retrospective she was perfect for Barry. I still think that Caitlin was the best woman for him, as far as the writing in the show was concerned.
I'm guessing Shantel VanSanten left because Dick Wolfe offered her the role in CBS's FBI shows, which she just moved to one of the spinoffs FBI: Most Wanted
I’m of the opinion that if a Superhero hasn’t known you for at least a year, even if you’re dating, they shouldn’t have to tell you their identity. Looking at you Amber from Invincible. That being said, however, the fact that Patty found out and Barry was still lying was trash. She already knew. At that point, you’re not keeping your secret. You’re just gaslighting her.
I wanted to jump through the screen when she was telling Barry how she felt and how she wanted to stay for him meanwhile he was being so closed off and cold. The writers really fucked that up and I still haven’t gotten over the fact that she’s better than Iris
Patty’s low moral compass would have been a source of contention between her and Barry. Her sole purpose of joining the meta human task force was so that she could get a chance to kill Mark Mardon. She may have been a nerd like Barry but their core values do no line up. Plus he treated her like crap. Lied to her at every turn about the most basic things. She was not the best choice for Barry because as he said in his own words “She’s not Iris.”
Hey Comic Casual you wanna Know what I’ve Just Realized Is That while Everyone is Taking in the Boys Universe is Talking about how Evil Supes are and how Homelander needs to die ans calling him the Worst! If you really think about aren’t the Real Villains humans themselves! Like him not calling Supes Saint themselves obviously! If like Seriously Humans in History have done way worse things in Comparison not the Mention Humanity as Existed for millions of Years! On earth! And are in Control of Everything! Plus without Humans Homelander and Conpound V Wouldent even Exist! Not the Mention we Wouldent have Supes running Around being bad! Cause they don’t Exist! Like Homelander Single Worst Actions! Even with his Mindset he can do what ever He Wants! compared to Literally Everything Humanity as a Whole has Done! Both Figuratively and Literally! Than it’s Just Nothing! Through I’ve Always Wondered if Homelander is Aware the Humans are Often times worst than Supes! What do you guys Think? Please answer
She wanted to leave and ultimately tried to gaslight Barry into telling her his secret after she chose to leave. That's why Barry didn't tell her his secret in the end. She ultimately chose her career over him. At a surface level, it seems like Barry was being a dick but dig deeper into those last two episodes, and you realize she was the one who ran from the relationship first.
It’s come to my conclusion yall are just racist……this is coming from someone who doesn’t like the cw iris either but all she needed was to be written better and not in hero’s business all the time and she would’ve been fine, but yall wanting to completely recast her and all your choices have one or two things in common is hilariously obvious….
brother, some guys literally said here to give iris some same story as they give to patty ... there is no problem with the race we dont have a problem with joe, wally, even cecile or captain singh or cisco's last girlfrnd it was the way her character written was bad and to be very honest grant and candice dont have a single chemistry between them its not about race as i also involved grant in this too dont victimise bad writing
@@sarveshpathak2338 there are literally people saying the actresses that played patty and Candice would’ve been a better fit just by looks alone,like are you ok? You can literally scroll and see them! U clearly didn’t read my comment cuz nowhere did I victimize bad writing,yes we can have our own opinions on who should’ve played iris based on our own opinions that’s fine but when your opinion is boiled down to…two are gingers…& white and the others not yes that’s racist….& we not gon act like the actresses didn’t get a huge amount of racial slurs hurled at her when she first came onto the scene,that doesn’t just go away.
@@StormTheeOmega bro nothing bad about that actor or something i m just mad at writer you r taking this whole thing to a different direction and not to mention you just assumed and called eceryone a racist while i m here talking bad about a character doesnt matter what race she is from i hate that character for butchering my once fvrt show ... i m the one who continued watching that shit show till the finale season for the sake of some cool crossover or some cool reverse flash vs flash scene ... so i make myself very clear here you dont get to call me racist because i love all the characters in that show except iris and there is alot racial diversity in that show and once again patty spivot was hands down best written love intrest just got forcefully removed from the show because we happen to have a news article in the time vault which has a name "IRIS WEST ALLEN"
@@sarveshpathak2338 if your only critique as to why you’d want the actresses that look how you want iris to look is her not being black…yes you are racist that was never directed at you it was directed at the people who said it…calm down and read wtf I just typed.
Barry didn't deserve Patty, she was far too good for the way he treated her by the end
It was just shit writing. She was harassed by some crew member and wanted to leave
@@Adnanwastaken Yeah ik why the actress left and good on her but like I wish things went differently
Oi Hughie, Flash Done let me wife Leave and Broke her bloody heart
Bloody diabolical
😂Holy crap, she's Butchers wife!
I screamed at my TV when Barry let Patty leave
same
Patty was by FAR the best female character on the show. And the actress who played her? She’s a GREAT actress. I loved her in Shooter when she played Julie Swagger.
Shantel Vansanten
Patty just a gem in the flash so sad she just left the series
Fun fact the actor who plays Patty Pivot, also plays Becca Butcher in The Boys
She's also voicing Anissa in Invincible... oh, no.
@@scotthadden9816 From the one who opens the door and gets shot to the one who knocks.
You explained it well, I just hated how he literally tells his ex he’s the flash and uses her as bait for zoom AFTER breaking up with patty, then when it’s over he doesn’t even care to try to get back with her after 😭
Tbh Patty was better then Iris
Waaaaayyyy better. Jesus Christ. Iris is so damn annoying.
@@Norrin277especially in season 4💀💀💀
To be honest, everyone is better than Iris.
It honestly pisses me off How Barry in s9 is fine with telling Vialains his identity but didn't want to reaveal his identity to Patty in s2.
It's because by season 9 he's grown as a character, still annoys me too though
@@ScarletOutlawBut he revealed his identity to Linda a few episodes before 💀
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Maybe that was part of his growth or what he took as a lesson of his time with her, to pretty much reveal himself to anyone who asks why he should trust him
@@yingyangkitty4091 I mean not really hell the only lesson He learned that was related to his secret identity was the fact that He shouldn't tell his loved ones his identity so that they aren't in danger (case and point Patty), yet in s9 He does something that puts his family and loved ones in even more danger
When I saw her in the boys, I knew she looked kind of Familiar to me. First she dated Barry then got involved with Homelander and was married to Butcher.
Patty wasn't recast. She was mentioned once in season 7 as being reassigned. Once she left she was not seen in person ever again.
Yep, she was mentioned in the first episode of season 7 by Kristen Kramer; she said that Patty and Julian Albert were both reassigned (even if Julian had already been m)
I know that CC said "quote unquote recasted her" so it was pretty vague in the first place, but it did give me pause and made me look the Arrowverse wiki up because that didn't ring a bell at all.
I mean, I remember Saoirse-Monica Jackson playing her in "The Flash" (2023), but in the CW Flash show? She sadly never came back... oh well, even I kinda stopped paying attention to that show post-season 3.
I'd watch an episode here and there if a charactor or actor that I like showed up, or for cross-overs, but aside from that, I never became a huge fan like I was of other CW DC shows like Arrow, Superman & Lois, or Stargirl.
The supporting cast of The Flash (and most of the villains) just didn't appeal to me post-S3...
patty gang over iris
She’s also a 10/10
Literally Patty or Cait hell even Linda would’ve been a better pic for his wife or girlfriend then Iris
I was mad that Patty left. Then when we got towards the end of season 2 Iris confessed and i felt nothing from it because it felt rushed. Even the dialogue left question marks why are they doing this. They spent so much time with Patty Iris never even considered she had feelings.
Honestly Patty is what Iris should have been, hell the Actress should have been the Iris Character and if Iris was a Cop it would open new layers to the Show but like not having Cisco and Liza Together, we can’t have Nice Things in the Arrowverse.
is liza gypsy ?
I don't remember Patty being very well received back in the day. In retrospective she was perfect for Barry. I still think that Caitlin was the best woman for him, as far as the writing in the show was concerned.
Patty never reappeared after season 2. She got name dropped like twice after leaving, but otherwise she only had like 10 episodes
This. And I haven’t even seen past season 5 but I wouldn’t known if the actress was in it
Barry didn’t deserve her.. Billy Butcher did
Man....IM crying 😢😢😢
Patty is who Iris should have been.
I'm guessing Shantel VanSanten left because Dick Wolfe offered her the role in CBS's FBI shows, which she just moved to one of the spinoffs FBI: Most Wanted
another CW relationship that should have been endgame but wasn't.
I’m of the opinion that if a Superhero hasn’t known you for at least a year, even if you’re dating, they shouldn’t have to tell you their identity. Looking at you Amber from Invincible. That being said, however, the fact that Patty found out and Barry was still lying was trash. She already knew. At that point, you’re not keeping your secret. You’re just gaslighting her.
Patty and Felicity >
She left for the same reason they had to change show runners....
I wanted to jump through the screen when she was telling Barry how she felt and how she wanted to stay for him meanwhile he was being so closed off and cold. The writers really fucked that up and I still haven’t gotten over the fact that she’s better than Iris
Biggest fumble of the cw.....BIGGEST fumble
Patty’s low moral compass would have been a source of contention between her and Barry. Her sole purpose of joining the meta human task force was so that she could get a chance to kill Mark Mardon. She may have been a nerd like Barry but their core values do no line up. Plus he treated her like crap. Lied to her at every turn about the most basic things. She was not the best choice for Barry because as he said in his own words “She’s not Iris.”
It’s been years… fr still, I don’t think she’s in season 7?!
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oi hughie
Can you simp over all the arrow women?
Brooo I hated it so bad
Hey Comic Casual you wanna Know what I’ve Just Realized Is That while Everyone is Taking in the Boys Universe is Talking about how Evil Supes are and how Homelander needs to die ans calling him the Worst! If you really think about aren’t the Real Villains humans themselves! Like him not calling Supes Saint themselves obviously! If like Seriously Humans in History have done way worse things in Comparison not the Mention Humanity as Existed for millions of Years! On earth! And are in Control of Everything! Plus without Humans Homelander and Conpound V Wouldent even Exist! Not the Mention we Wouldent have Supes running Around being bad! Cause they don’t Exist! Like Homelander Single Worst Actions! Even with his Mindset he can do what ever He Wants! compared to Literally Everything Humanity as a Whole has Done! Both Figuratively and Literally! Than it’s Just Nothing! Through I’ve Always Wondered if Homelander is Aware the Humans are Often times worst than Supes! What do you guys Think? Please answer
She wanted to leave and ultimately tried to gaslight Barry into telling her his secret after she chose to leave. That's why Barry didn't tell her his secret in the end. She ultimately chose her career over him. At a surface level, it seems like Barry was being a dick but dig deeper into those last two episodes, and you realize she was the one who ran from the relationship first.
Oi
Oi hughie Barry Allen done dated me wife and is better father figure for me bleeding son
First :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
It’s come to my conclusion yall are just racist……this is coming from someone who doesn’t like the cw iris either but all she needed was to be written better and not in hero’s business all the time and she would’ve been fine, but yall wanting to completely recast her and all your choices have one or two things in common is hilariously obvious….
brother, some guys literally said here to give iris some same story as they give to patty ... there is no problem with the race we dont have a problem with joe, wally, even cecile or captain singh or cisco's last girlfrnd it was the way her character written was bad and to be very honest grant and candice dont have a single chemistry between them its not about race as i also involved grant in this too dont victimise bad writing
@@sarveshpathak2338 there are literally people saying the actresses that played patty and Candice would’ve been a better fit just by looks alone,like are you ok? You can literally scroll and see them!
U clearly didn’t read my comment cuz nowhere did I victimize bad writing,yes we can have our own opinions on who should’ve played iris based on our own opinions that’s fine but when your opinion is boiled down to…two are gingers…& white and the others not yes that’s racist….& we not gon act like the actresses didn’t get a huge amount of racial slurs hurled at her when she first came onto the scene,that doesn’t just go away.
@@StormTheeOmega bro nothing bad about that actor or something i m just mad at writer you r taking this whole thing to a different direction and not to mention you just assumed and called eceryone a racist while i m here talking bad about a character doesnt matter what race she is from i hate that character for butchering my once fvrt show ... i m the one who continued watching that shit show till the finale season for the sake of some cool crossover or some cool reverse flash vs flash scene ... so i make myself very clear here you dont get to call me racist because i love all the characters in that show except iris and there is alot racial diversity in that show and once again patty spivot was hands down best written love intrest just got forcefully removed from the show because we happen to have a news article in the time vault which has a name "IRIS WEST ALLEN"
@@sarveshpathak2338 if your only critique as to why you’d want the actresses that look how you want iris to look is her not being black…yes you are racist that was never directed at you it was directed at the people who said it…calm down and read wtf I just typed.