That killer was kinda dumb. Seemed like he wanted the 4k, but ended up basically leaving the snitcher for another surviver who was still alive somewhere, and the snitcher survived. ho-ly.. 😵💫 killers sometimes let a completely random survivor live for absolutely no obvious reason.
Average Sable main There really needs to be some sort of “concede” option when there’s only two survivors left at 3+ gens and when every remaining survivor is slugged.
I was the Cluad in the match at 7:58, and we were wondering what was happening when you got stuck. If I remember correctly, on our side it looked like the trap was disabled, and we couldn’t vault the window. Glad to know what it looked like on your side. Ggs!
seeing plot twist on pallet with shift and nopers from slug, you would think randoms understand to fk off but i guess not. seeing them then also drop the pallet is just.... man....
Honestly this is pretty tame compared to some I've had. My most recent memory was a nurse game, which was also on Dead Dawg Saloon. The match was the nurse not getting any hooks and bleeding the 2 randoms in the lobby immediately. My friend and I had found this guy 3 games before this (not consecutively but close by) so we knew what we were in for. In the previous two matches everyone was either bled and dry humped until their 4 minutes ended or they dced, or they were last second hooked and camped just for the sake of it to make the match last longer for them. The nurse was running infectious, and whatever the aura reading perk while you carry a survivor is. In the last match we had them we already knew what was coming so we searched chests for a key and I did end up finding one. Same thing happened. First two randoms got bled pretty quickly as mentioned before and my friend was also bled for about half his bleed bar until he was let wiggle free. My friend just started doing gens in front of the killer to get the killer to either let him progress the game state by doing gens or progress the game state by picking him off them and dropping him (Each time he was dropped was a bit closer to bleeding after all.) When he was on the shoulder he would always tell me when to enter a locker if he was close. This went on for maybe 30 minutes with the killer grabbing my friend, dropping him, kicking the gen, and waiting until my friend would wiggle off so he could start the now regressed gen, until he finally bled out and the hatch spawned. I didn't even end up needing the key as it spawned by me. Was probably my most satisfying escape I've had. The killer afterward complained about us wasting his time which was funny and hypocritical. Good memory of a bad experience in any case.
The sable ratting you out is so relatable because I, on 3 different occasions, have been ratted out. Why? Do you think I teabagged? Sandbagged? Kept missing skillchecks? Wasnt altruistic? If you thought yes, you'd be wrong! I did two generators each time, took hits for deadhook, saved just about everyone 3 times over + heals, and yet the one person who didnt do anything all game gets hatch and killer hits me on hook, teabags me (or "humps"), and everything else! Hooray for DbD! I love this community so much! So peaceful and welcoming! The one time that it happened with a Kate and a Chucky, the kate obviously gave up! i had bond and she kept flicking her flashlight and vaulting to get him to kill her. but at the end, when he let her go.. she ratted me out, since I was waiting for hatch. because why the fuck am I going to do a generator if you're giving up? That just gives away my location Shoutout to the Knight that said I did nothing all game (i was running a stealth build and wasnt going up to him clicking flashlights at him, i was doing generators. lmao) despite me doing pre-mentioned generators AND also healing the Haddie he gave hatch to after I healed her from dying state 4 different times. Such a joy!
I started playing this game 2 months ago, and this happened in more than 50% of my games. Probably more then 75% of my games. I lasted ~6 weeks and uninstalled. This is literally the primary reason.
Glad to hear you uninstalled, honestly the best decision I've made too. This game is insanely garbage and I only watch Zub sometimes if I ever feel like playing.
I feel so sorry for you... I wish your games have looked better but there is no hope for this game until they don't separate sweaty meta players from casual 'meme builds' players but it's impossible. Good you are free from this toxic love-hate relationship lol
There has to be something about flashlights that makes survivors brains pop out of their head, slime all over the floor and make them slip because I legit see more people throw games with flashlight plays than actually make a difference
I call these people "I saw a streamer do this". They watched thousands of TikTok compilations and really want to look just as cool by making niche plays, that usually don't help their team a lot. As a killer I love these players, because 99% of the time, they know the play, but not how to execute it and just throw the game by misplaying and screwing up. A 4 man with 4 flashlights, that swarm you the entire match, is literally the best thing that can happen to you, because no one is doing gens and after the first flashlight safe they are more predictable than a German train being late and they usually suck ass in chase, once they realize you won't fall for le epic CJ tech.
Why are killer players upset when survivors go for flashlight saves? You guys get a all pissed when we sit on gens and "gen rush", but the second we're not on gens and start engaging with the killer more, we get called toxic. Like WTh!?!? lol. What do you want us to do, not play the game? Because even when we do that, you still get angry.
One of three outcomes in a killer pov game: 1. gets mad because gens got finished in 5 minutes. 2. gets mad because survivors didn't do gens and just went for beamer plays. 3. gets mad because survivors went afk and/or gave up, throwing the game. One of six outcomes in a survivor pov game: 1. gets mad when killer tunnels you out. 2. gets mad when killer camps you to death. 3. gets mad when killer doesn't chase you. 4. gets mad when killer doesnt hook you. 5. gets mad when survivor saves instead of doing gens. 6. gets mad when survivor does gens instead of saving.
@@StizzY8 I dont hate survivors who flashlight save. I hate survivors that play really bad because of their flashlights and throw the game. If you flashlight save a survivor I don't get that upset honestly because A: You weren't on a gen for a solid 30 seconds probably and B: You literally aren't doing anything right now and maybe even allow me some extra pressure. Yea I dropped the survivor but I can potentially recover pretty quick
@@morrt8579 Tbh I hated Megs few years ago. Then I hated Mikaelas with whole my heart. But Sable... Sables beat all Megs and Mikaelas on the world. Especially incognito profile Sables, geez... (but when all Meg-heads and bad Mikaelas went to play as Sable I'm playing as Meg and Mikaela and Im happy and Im not that bad, srsly xD)
What was even the point of that doctor? Slugging for the 4k but still giving hatch? Really weird behavior. I usually never slug for 4 k unless the people I went against asked for it by unnecessarily bm'ing. It's such a bore and just makes games longer for no reason. If they made the hatch still count as a partial sacrifice or something because they had to resort to it last second it would likely decrease the amount of killers that slug for a 4 k.
Adept doers are rare among those who slug for the 4k but they should change the requirements to 9 or 10 hooks so there would be less of these types of players
you used to have to, you'd have to get 4 iri scores at the end. if a survivor DC'd it would almost guarantee the killer not getting the adept. id much rather an adept killer slug for 4k one time in his lifetime than have to work for perfect games that much
Slugging for the 4k is literally only ever okay in Adept situations or if you know where the last survivor is. Doing it outside of that is just a killer desperate to feed their ego.
You know my one argument for why you would play like this is 4k archive challenges (archives make the game worse) but then he lets the snitch have hatch anyway, actually complete insanity.
Maybe if bhvr ever get off there ego trip they could change killer to not be kills and make it hooks so killers dont feel as needed to slug for 4ks. It wont solve every killer doing it but a lot more are doing it because that is the skillful way to play the game and survivors dont have any skill if they die to it obviously
They used to. Emblem system used to reward you for hook actions. Guess what? People still slugged for 4K. BHVR could make it so killing the 4th survivor will lose you bloodpoints and people still would slug for 4K. It is about the ego, not about feeling pressured.
I'll try to break it down for people saying Zubat is just as much at fault: Hooking 3rd survivor is not a forfeit, hatch doesn't magically spawn under 4th survivors feet. Killer can easily hook, win (majority kill), and still have the opportunity to "win more" by finding the hatch first and catching the 4th survivor. Stepping forward as survivor while the killer is slugging for the 4k, however, *is* forfeiting, with no chance of victory of any kind. So one role can progress the game without forfeiting, but the other one can't. Both are definitely petty, and I've absolutely been on both sides of the situation (fuck archive challenges, both for 4ks and hatch escapes, they make the game worse), but until they let a survivor getting bled out kill themselves instantly, there will be no end to these scenarios.
No need to break it down. He was holding the match hostage as much as the Doc was, that simple. Not saying the Doc is in the right for allowing the Sable to team with him and snitch, that was scummy.
@@GoldenDeer_ Not really true. If the last two survivors only hid and never got caught instead of trying to progress in some way? Yeah, they are. But if the Doc slugs one down and patrols to find the last one, that's on him. By hooking the third, and if/when she'd die, then either Zubat would get the hatch or the Doc would have closed it. And if the Doc would have, then End Game Collapse likely would kill Zubat if he didn't get a door open in time. By saying Zubat was just as much at fault is the same as saying he should have just walked out and let the Doc kill him after he knocked down the third person.
My personal rule of thumb is: The more of an hourglass figure the female character has, the worse players it attracts. I havent found a rule for male characters yet, though.
That doctor game experience is easily the worst experience in whole DBD 😮. its not enough that solo queue is a miserable experience by itself especially on higher ranks but then you go through games like this where killers basically take you as a hostage for 10-15 mins with you cant do anything about it. Not even joking but this problem would have been long fixed if the roles were reversed cuz the loudest people in the community for raising concerns about game balance & game health barely ever play survivor let alone it be solo queue. If BHVR can simply give players to give up after certain percentage of bleed out OR simply have timed game where game cannot go beyond 15 minutes & then gates will open by itself or something just like how Friday the 13 had timer system for survivors to call the police & survive certain minutes to win this could be much better for the game's health & would actually promote bad killers to hook person than slugging for 20 mins straight.
From the title I thought this was gonna be about teammate killers throwing in 2v8 I had like 3 in a row where my teammate got halfway through the match and then just decided they weren't gonna hit anyone anymore
I typically slug for the 4k with doc when it's a 2v1, but if I can't find the second guy within a minute I'll just hook the guy i downed since I generally don't like leaving people on the ground longer than I have to.
The most disgusting thing about the ending match is how EASILY the other teammate will casually become the killers friend after being slugged to find the last survivor, trapping them inside the match, as well as wasting their time, but Ohhhhhh lets be buddies now. Like....just why? People are so brainless that they'll LET themselves be used like this. I had a swf that was me and another friend and I was dead giving him feed back, spectating the other survivor, during the entire time this same situation above was happening. Everyone dead except for my buddy and the sell out. Survivor would get grabbed on purpose to see the aura of my friend and I kept giving him details on where everyone is going. This lasted 20ish minutes of playing hide and seek. I've NEVER been in a game like this where people were so focused on the sell out and didn't get bored and wanted to move on to the next match. This situation isn't super common but it happens so often that its just dumb. Yesterday in the 2v8 we had this happen where its the slug out for the 8 k. Like OMG can we move on already!!!! This is just petty. Not only does it waste the survivors time but it also wastes their time! You're not making any points why do it?!!? Ugh. And then brainless Behavior is like "We're going to implement an anti unhook feature to solve an almost non existent aggravation" BEHAVIOR, THIS SLUGGING FOR THE 4K HAPPENS FARRRRRR MORE OFTEN THEN PEOPLE BM'ING SPAMMING UNHOOK. Fuck this game and its oblivious development team.
I understand the DC penalty in theory, I just think it's stupid. It's like a 'no tolerance' policy. In a match like the final one here, I'd rather DC and get into another game so I can enjoy my time. If your internet is shiz and you realize you should stop, the killer is lagswitching/obviously hacking, etc- then the penalty does more harm than good. Especially since it can go up to 5-6 hours at least.
another match where boys become men after a sweaty attempt to 4k in a game wich is not intended to have a competitive system and players sees it as one like it is the end of the world if they don't achieve a 4k lmaoo
Slugging for 4K would disappear completely if they reworked hatch and 2v1 stand-offs. But BHVR is too occupied making Sable cosmetics to think straight.
@@noxirbyug And who was it that chose to hire more art devs and less game devs? Unless you're claiming you did, or that it's impossible not to, BHVR chose to.
@@noxirbyug You think everyone is getting the same resources? Ofc the art team is getting more literally look at the state of this patch. Dumbasses keep saying this shit when if you had critical thinking, you would know they're just pumping more resources into the art team instead of devs.
@@xraze6906 Who says theres more "Art devs" and less "Game devs"? they are two completely separate parts that work together to make the game. Blaming the art team for existing is ridiculous, the game devs are lacking.
It's funny how both sides can effectively hold a game hostage in the 1v2, both survivors can hide without ever attempting the gens, and the Killer can do.. this. Outside of the dumb adept achievements I really don't get slugging for 4k's, when I'm in the 1v2 situation as Killer I just want the game over with, walking around the map for 10 minutes looking for the last survivor is awfully fucking boring. Something needs to be done about it, force start EGC timer or something after a certain amount of time, I don't know.
Had a game where a duo of Claudettes intentionally hid at 2v1 for 15 min until they made a mistake and I spotted them. Then said “hiding is playing the game by increasing your survival chances.” Literal degeneracy.
Hey Regera, are some of these just older clips or is there any possibility you have used em in other videos? I'm just curious, cause I feel I know some of these. Maybe just from older streams. :) Keep up the good work, love it!
@12:20 the match is unlosable for the killer as you mentioned... so instead of complaining that the killer shouldn't slug for the 4K, which he is entitled to to be fair, why not just go and give him the 4K instead of wasting time? I'm not trying to be a dick, just a legit question.
yup, zub is equally at fault for hiding as this doc slugging for 4k. the only bannable offense there is sable snitching and nothing else, he could do a gen so there is no taking hostage either.
Pro tip for bhvr: if you are being slugged for 50% get a notification and you can leave the game without penalty if the game is at least 10 minutes. Also same for killers who get hold hostage by swfs and cheaters just make it so they can leave freely after like 5-10 min. Easy sovled.
Calling slugging for the 4k bannable is just dumb, it’s mean but you both could easily go to the killer after he downs one and let the game end, nobody is holding you hostage except yourself. Especially considering merciless killer (for adepts) is a literal win condition relying on a 4k. And even if you are the one on the floor, the game is gaurenteed to end in 4 minutes, again not holding hostage.
They should give survs perma unbreakable when there is only 2 survivors left. Slugging for the 4k is a grueling and extremely annoying experience I think its also crazy that this isn't considered taking the game hostage...
I think first time I decided to read the comments and there is such 💩 lol "oh no Zubat complainer I unsubscribe!!!" "ha ha ha Zubat is craaazy he wants killers get banned for doing 4k lol lmao hahahhehhehe😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣" It's good that at least their comments allow the video to be viewed more...
By the same logic of you complaining about them slugging for the 4k they could complain about you hiding for the hatch. Dont try and flame the killer for doing exactly what you are doing.
@@Darksage5555 I agree we should be consistent with our standards and behavior. But the doctor initiated the BM by intentionally slugging. Going to find him a second time would change nothing. That changes the calculus.
@keltonschleyer6367 slugging isn't bad though. He didn't "initiate" any behavior, he was playing to win. On top of that, zubat was being far more hostile than anything we saw from doc. It even ends with "I bet he won't hook me and will bleed me out" or something to that point then doc almost immediately hooks him. I think people need to stop taking everything so personal. Not just zub, alot of content creators, killer and survivor, think everything is super personal.
@@Darksage5555 I've thought about this a lot and I actually agree with your point. Hatch is a bad mechanic because it requires one side to concede pressure to move the game forward, and that obligation exists for both sides. People take these things personal because they are personal, because they affect individual people. I'll explain. Everyone is hostile and assumes bad faith in DBD because the game has two significant flaws: 1) Fun gameplay and optimal gameplay are mutually exclusive in this game, and 2) The mechanics leave too much room for players to act out of ego, malice, and spite, contrary to the flow of the game. Behaviors like hiding or slugging for the 4k are universally despised because they are not fun and they are intentionally caused by other players. Sure, they're optimal, but they're boring, are caused by your opponent, and remove agency from you. Every other multiplayer game I think of is designed so optimal, fun, and streamlined gameplay are identical. Shoot the other team, capture the objective, win, next game. Optimal DBD removes agency from the other players and leaves them with nothing to do. Camping hooks and tunneling people is optimal, but is boring and ruins the experience. Spending 4 minutes on the ground doing nothing so someone can get 3k extra blood points is literally a waste of time. Wandering around for 15 minutes looking for two rat players is boring because you've lost agency to move the game forward. People hate these aspects of DBD because it ruins their experience, isn't engaging, wastes their time, and is exclusively caused by their opponent to their personal detriment. It's tolerable in good faith because empathetic players will clean up their mess and let people go next ASAP. But a lot of players use bad DBD design to exert power over the other players exclusively for their own interests. So yeah, these are all game mechanics, but players are jaded from experiencing poorly designed game mechanics that allow their opponent to benefit from their suffering, especially when it happens countless times from sociopathic strangers in public lobbies. The old adage, "if you don't like the game experience, play something different," is absolutely correct here, but the Survivor and Killer Rulebooks were an early expression of the persistent issues people have found with the design of this game.
i had a streamer do that to me. (wont name names) 5 minutes he slugged a fucking bot. the full duration + more let it wiggle out and everything. because i wasnt hooked yet. so he got the bot to near death then picked it up wouldnt down it. the reason i never gave him a hook was literally strategic because he had pain res and fucking grim embrace what else are you suppose to do. other wise its 60 seconds and you lose.
I get people don't like being bled out but isn't hiding in a locker dodging afk crows while nobody does an objective just as much of a petty waste of everyone's time? Does a chance at an rng hatch really matter that much?
Not only that but shows a clip camping 3 different pallets to stop oni from using his power, yes he can avoid the stun but like really gotta dump all 3 of those back to back on him then complains about slugging for the 4k as if he hasn’t done it lol but we wont see any clips of him doing it ofc
@@miasma1718 you just want to fight hahaha but I was talking about the original comment. I just realized you were talking to a reply. Anyway, I hope you get the attention you want ^^
Waiting for a person only hooked once to die. When she stood up, probably with Unbreakable, he didn't even healed the lady. So, he what he deserved. I get the idea, the killer wanted the guy looping him for a long time. That's why he was slugging the other one and hooked this guy at the first chance. Besides, the guy is just doing the killer's work. I'm a main survivor int his game, but I get that this "main survivor base" cry a lot for nothing. And the worst part... Behavior listens to this kind of people. It's a shame, often unbalancing the game for one side, and then they have to fix it again, and again, and again...
I’m a console player, ffs why don’t my fellow console players change their input bindings. So embarrassing dropping pallets on your teammates heads. Giving us all a bad name.
If you hate when killer wants the 2k by slugging and don't want the game to drag... isn't it a bit hypocritical to say why this killer wants to win this hard this is dumb when you are doing the same thing? Either you let him find you and forfeit your win, or he hooks and forfeits his. Takes two to tango. This game could have ended in a minute max after the clip starts if you let him catch you. Why do something you don't enjoy? Unless... you wanted to win and escape? Just like the doctor wanted to kill and win?
11:52 so it's okay for the survivors to escape/win the game but it's bad when the killers go for a 4k aka win the game? Survivor mains trying to be fair, not toxic and not biased IMPOSSIBLE challenge 🔥‼️🗣️🔥
next time report players like these both in game and on bhvr forum. 2 day ban isn't much but it's one less step to get perma banned if they keep doing it
I always slug for the 4k because of ego, but the survs complaining about the slug are just as egotistical as me imo, if you don't want to wait then just let yourself get found so I can end the match quicker. Incidentally I never let the killer find me when I'm playing the survivor, but you don't see me complaining.
its wasting time the doctor didnt even get the 4k he was babyraging for. dude should just hook and then go for him instead of wasting about 8 minutes afterwards. who cares about 4ks if its quick kts how much time he wastes and not even getting it anyways
Stalling the game for minutes on end and teaming up with a survivor who you've previously slugged to find another survivor because you're too salty and butthurt that he looped you well is bullshit in whatever way you look at it. Zubat did nothing, just used the games mechanics as they are intended to be played. And on top of that, no, he didn't get a 4K, he gave the Sable the hatch. If you aren't trolling you are most likely partially blind:)
Zubat doesn't want killers who want the 4k banned, he was referring to his teammate literally taking the killer to his position while pointing in his direction. Teaming with the killer while playing survivor is bannable just so you know? You mong 😂😂🤣🤣
So you would rather do squats for ten minutes at zero hook states than just see what you can do for the remaining mate, try and get a gen, or just call it a day and go next? And then you have the gall to complain about solo queue mates... you were literally the problem here bud.
i disagree with zubat ... they should increase the panalty to make people SO WHINEY play the game through or not at all its nothing to do with the killer how they play if you as survivor play bad you want out
"worse parts of the game " yet survivors will go and hide and never help the downed person either ? making it just as bad being you also hold the game hostage no gens being done or anything YOU CANT COMPLAIN
First, it’s ironic that you’re complaining about survivors complaining and showing entitlement for a 4k and calling survivors entitled for not wanting to deal with your ego
Really? Against the freddy you could have vaulted but hey you got streamer mentality and give fault to other people Edit: i unsubscribed, because you do that really often lately.
He should have been positioned to stop and tank a hit in the first place. It was a bad play by him to allow a gap. What is he supposed to do but assume the person preparing to take a hit takes a hit? Are you seriously insane
Idk if you saw this or noticed this, but maybe use your eyes just a little bit, there was no vault prompt. the second renato stopped healing he couldnt have vaulted, because he was being blocked in and there was no prompt to vault. i know its hard using your brain though
Gotta love the Sable teaming up with the killer at the end and pointing out where you are. Solo queue is such a joy.
I see this often
"When I can't get hatch, nobody get's it!"
That killer was kinda dumb. Seemed like he wanted the 4k, but ended up basically leaving the snitcher for another surviver who was still alive somewhere, and the snitcher survived. ho-ly.. 😵💫 killers sometimes let a completely random survivor live for absolutely no obvious reason.
Im always do that, when meet ratty sneaky survivors.
@@VoxRus And this is why your dad left for milk
@@balu2242survivor mains when an imposter is among them (its somehow the killer's fault)
and the sable is given the hatch for... ruining the game alongside the killer. hurray !
Average Sable main
There really needs to be some sort of “concede” option when there’s only two survivors left at 3+ gens and when every remaining survivor is slugged.
@@swatson5699 we need a give up option after someone disconnects or dies early or when all survivors agree
lore accurate doctor. torturing the last survivor until they rat you out
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There is a possibility i was the alien that shitfully missed my tail attack and promptly left XDD
So often, the worst enemy in the game is another teammate.
I was the Cluad in the match at 7:58, and we were wondering what was happening when you got stuck. If I remember correctly, on our side it looked like the trap was disabled, and we couldn’t vault the window. Glad to know what it looked like on your side. Ggs!
what are your names man?
@@chersymale do not judge the little gay boys
@@cat8506 :3
@@cat8506 this community is so fire!!!
6:40 This vecna will probably be happy to know they once again blocked off both of the doors on the garage
8:05 my teammate ‘scary’ trolled me by the way, he told me it was safe to vault and the trap was disarmed.
I was dying on pallet in a way it seemed like I had been pokos'd but yeul (scary) trolled my team-mate and said it's untrapped.
the only way to swf, honestly 😂
seeing plot twist on pallet with shift and nopers from slug, you would think randoms understand to fk off but i guess not. seeing them then also drop the pallet is just.... man....
Honestly this is pretty tame compared to some I've had. My most recent memory was a nurse game, which was also on Dead Dawg Saloon. The match was the nurse not getting any hooks and bleeding the 2 randoms in the lobby immediately. My friend and I had found this guy 3 games before this (not consecutively but close by) so we knew what we were in for. In the previous two matches everyone was either bled and dry humped until their 4 minutes ended or they dced, or they were last second hooked and camped just for the sake of it to make the match last longer for them. The nurse was running infectious, and whatever the aura reading perk while you carry a survivor is.
In the last match we had them we already knew what was coming so we searched chests for a key and I did end up finding one. Same thing happened. First two randoms got bled pretty quickly as mentioned before and my friend was also bled for about half his bleed bar until he was let wiggle free. My friend just started doing gens in front of the killer to get the killer to either let him progress the game state by doing gens or progress the game state by picking him off them and dropping him (Each time he was dropped was a bit closer to bleeding after all.) When he was on the shoulder he would always tell me when to enter a locker if he was close.
This went on for maybe 30 minutes with the killer grabbing my friend, dropping him, kicking the gen, and waiting until my friend would wiggle off so he could start the now regressed gen, until he finally bled out and the hatch spawned. I didn't even end up needing the key as it spawned by me. Was probably my most satisfying escape I've had. The killer afterward complained about us wasting his time which was funny and hypocritical. Good memory of a bad experience in any case.
The sable ratting you out is so relatable because I, on 3 different occasions, have been ratted out. Why? Do you think I teabagged? Sandbagged? Kept missing skillchecks? Wasnt altruistic?
If you thought yes, you'd be wrong! I did two generators each time, took hits for deadhook, saved just about everyone 3 times over + heals, and yet the one person who didnt do anything all game gets hatch and killer hits me on hook, teabags me (or "humps"), and everything else! Hooray for DbD! I love this community so much! So peaceful and welcoming!
The one time that it happened with a Kate and a Chucky, the kate obviously gave up! i had bond and she kept flicking her flashlight and vaulting to get him to kill her. but at the end, when he let her go.. she ratted me out, since I was waiting for hatch. because why the fuck am I going to do a generator if you're giving up? That just gives away my location
Shoutout to the Knight that said I did nothing all game (i was running a stealth build and wasnt going up to him clicking flashlights at him, i was doing generators. lmao) despite me doing pre-mentioned generators AND also healing the Haddie he gave hatch to after I healed her from dying state 4 different times. Such a joy!
I started playing this game 2 months ago, and this happened in more than 50% of my games. Probably more then 75% of my games. I lasted ~6 weeks and uninstalled. This is literally the primary reason.
Glad to hear you uninstalled, honestly the best decision I've made too. This game is insanely garbage and I only watch Zub sometimes if I ever feel like playing.
I feel so sorry for you... I wish your games have looked better but there is no hope for this game until they don't separate sweaty meta players from casual 'meme builds' players but it's impossible. Good you are free from this toxic love-hate relationship lol
What happend?
Great choice!
It has literally happened to me maybe 1-2 times in 2 years you just have shitty luck I guess.
Good to know I should avoid lobbies with a player named Funllamalover
Whenever the killer tries this, I never rat out my team. I'd rather die than drag things out
Nahhh snitching on a teammate is crazy, if I was that Sable I would've just let myself bleed out or go afk
There has to be something about flashlights that makes survivors brains pop out of their head, slime all over the floor and make them slip because I legit see more people throw games with flashlight plays than actually make a difference
I call these people "I saw a streamer do this".
They watched thousands of TikTok compilations and really want to look just as cool by making niche plays, that usually don't help their team a lot. As a killer I love these players, because 99% of the time, they know the play, but not how to execute it and just throw the game by misplaying and screwing up. A 4 man with 4 flashlights, that swarm you the entire match, is literally the best thing that can happen to you, because no one is doing gens and after the first flashlight safe they are more predictable than a German train being late and they usually suck ass in chase, once they realize you won't fall for le epic CJ tech.
its more fun to throw the game for beamer saves then it is to crank gens in 5 mins and leave
Why are killer players upset when survivors go for flashlight saves? You guys get a all pissed when we sit on gens and "gen rush", but the second we're not on gens and start engaging with the killer more, we get called toxic. Like WTh!?!? lol.
What do you want us to do, not play the game? Because even when we do that, you still get angry.
One of three outcomes in a killer pov game:
1. gets mad because gens got finished in 5 minutes.
2. gets mad because survivors didn't do gens and just went for beamer plays.
3. gets mad because survivors went afk and/or gave up, throwing the game.
One of six outcomes in a survivor pov game:
1. gets mad when killer tunnels you out.
2. gets mad when killer camps you to death.
3. gets mad when killer doesn't chase you.
4. gets mad when killer doesnt hook you.
5. gets mad when survivor saves instead of doing gens.
6. gets mad when survivor does gens instead of saving.
@@StizzY8 I dont hate survivors who flashlight save. I hate survivors that play really bad because of their flashlights and throw the game. If you flashlight save a survivor I don't get that upset honestly because A: You weren't on a gen for a solid 30 seconds probably and B: You literally aren't doing anything right now and maybe even allow me some extra pressure. Yea I dropped the survivor but I can potentially recover pretty quick
3:15 Smartest Mikaela main:
You must be a Meg main
@@Mini_Wongel Meg and Mikaela mains are the exact same caliber
@@Mini_WongelMikaela = Boon Meg. Literally the same
@@morrt8579 i never said something different
@@morrt8579 Tbh I hated Megs few years ago. Then I hated Mikaelas with whole my heart. But Sable... Sables beat all Megs and Mikaelas on the world. Especially incognito profile Sables, geez... (but when all Meg-heads and bad Mikaelas went to play as Sable I'm playing as Meg and Mikaela and Im happy and Im not that bad, srsly xD)
9:10 - That is some weird ass bug
I was pooping when i got notification from male Meg Thomas 😢
Thomas Meg
What was even the point of that doctor? Slugging for the 4k but still giving hatch? Really weird behavior. I usually never slug for 4 k unless the people I went against asked for it by unnecessarily bm'ing.
It's such a bore and just makes games longer for no reason. If they made the hatch still count as a partial sacrifice or something because they had to resort to it last second it would likely decrease the amount of killers that slug for a 4 k.
He was clearly fuming over Zubat looping his awful ass.
Adept doers are rare among those who slug for the 4k but they should change the requirements to 9 or 10 hooks so there would be less of these types of players
@@Efnol you are illiterate
@@EfnolPretty sure they just meant to get the adept achievments bro, not literally making it 2 hook states.
you used to have to, you'd have to get 4 iri scores at the end. if a survivor DC'd it would almost guarantee the killer not getting the adept. id much rather an adept killer slug for 4k one time in his lifetime than have to work for perfect games that much
@@sleebees he cant even deduce that 2x4=8 so I replied and called him not literate but yt hid/deleted my reply
Slugging for the 4k is literally only ever okay in Adept situations or if you know where the last survivor is. Doing it outside of that is just a killer desperate to feed their ego.
You know my one argument for why you would play like this is 4k archive challenges (archives make the game worse) but then he lets the snitch have hatch anyway, actually complete insanity.
5:41 TRUTH
Idk why but zubats clips been hitting different lately😂
I don't know why, but from watching his videos, it's always the Fengs that are really dumb with pallets lol
And Bill's are bad with gens. Simple math really.
Love how she got hatch at the end haha.
The only time slugging for the 4k is understandable is for adept challenges. There was no reason the Doctor had to do that
1:27 If I had gotten picked up after the Feng did that to me, I'd be livid
Maybe if bhvr ever get off there ego trip they could change killer to not be kills and make it hooks so killers dont feel as needed to slug for 4ks. It wont solve every killer doing it but a lot more are doing it because that is the skillful way to play the game and survivors dont have any skill if they die to it obviously
Yeah!! And they should rename them to "Hookers"
They used to. Emblem system used to reward you for hook actions. Guess what? People still slugged for 4K. BHVR could make it so killing the 4th survivor will lose you bloodpoints and people still would slug for 4K. It is about the ego, not about feeling pressured.
The TTS messages are just something else
I'll try to break it down for people saying Zubat is just as much at fault:
Hooking 3rd survivor is not a forfeit, hatch doesn't magically spawn under 4th survivors feet. Killer can easily hook, win (majority kill), and still have the opportunity to "win more" by finding the hatch first and catching the 4th survivor. Stepping forward as survivor while the killer is slugging for the 4k, however, *is* forfeiting, with no chance of victory of any kind.
So one role can progress the game without forfeiting, but the other one can't.
Both are definitely petty, and I've absolutely been on both sides of the situation (fuck archive challenges, both for 4ks and hatch escapes, they make the game worse), but until they let a survivor getting bled out kill themselves instantly, there will be no end to these scenarios.
This chatter gets it
No need to break it down. He was holding the match hostage as much as the Doc was, that simple. Not saying the Doc is in the right for allowing the Sable to team with him and snitch, that was scummy.
@@GoldenDeer_ Not really true. If the last two survivors only hid and never got caught instead of trying to progress in some way? Yeah, they are.
But if the Doc slugs one down and patrols to find the last one, that's on him. By hooking the third, and if/when she'd die, then either Zubat would get the hatch or the Doc would have closed it. And if the Doc would have, then End Game Collapse likely would kill Zubat if he didn't get a door open in time.
By saying Zubat was just as much at fault is the same as saying he should have just walked out and let the Doc kill him after he knocked down the third person.
That first few seconds showcases fbe mental prowess of dbd players
Why is it always the Fengs, Mikaelas, and Sables?
Thalita as well, I hate Thalita. The people who play her have main character syndrome and will baby rage at the slightest inconvenience
@@Notj397 at least they have a personality. A bad one but a personality. The three I listed may as well be bots.
Coombrains
My personal rule of thumb is: The more of an hourglass figure the female character has, the worse players it attracts. I havent found a rule for male characters yet, though.
That doctor game experience is easily the worst experience in whole DBD 😮.
its not enough that solo queue is a miserable experience by itself especially on higher ranks but then you go through games like this where killers basically take you as a hostage for 10-15 mins with you cant do anything about it.
Not even joking but this problem would have been long fixed if the roles were reversed cuz the loudest people in the community for raising concerns about game balance & game health barely ever play survivor let alone it be solo queue.
If BHVR can simply give players to give up after certain percentage of bleed out
OR
simply have timed game where game cannot go beyond 15 minutes & then gates will open by itself or something just like how Friday the 13 had timer system for survivors to call the police & survive certain minutes to win this could be much better for the game's health & would actually promote bad killers to hook person than slugging for 20 mins straight.
From the title I thought this was gonna be about teammate killers throwing in 2v8 I had like 3 in a row where my teammate got halfway through the match and then just decided they weren't gonna hit anyone anymore
Love the jersey brother
I knew it was a doing gens you situation as soon as the timer started.
9:34 underrated play
No only do controller players never rebind but they also never learn
Whenever I use plot twist I have to accept the fact my braindead teammates across the map will STILL find a way to drop the pallet on my ass.
I typically slug for the 4k with doc when it's a 2v1, but if I can't find the second guy within a minute I'll just hook the guy i downed since I generally don't like leaving people on the ground longer than I have to.
The most disgusting thing about the ending match is how EASILY the other teammate will casually become the killers friend after being slugged to find the last survivor, trapping them inside the match, as well as wasting their time, but Ohhhhhh lets be buddies now. Like....just why? People are so brainless that they'll LET themselves be used like this.
I had a swf that was me and another friend and I was dead giving him feed back, spectating the other survivor, during the entire time this same situation above was happening. Everyone dead except for my buddy and the sell out. Survivor would get grabbed on purpose to see the aura of my friend and I kept giving him details on where everyone is going. This lasted 20ish minutes of playing hide and seek. I've NEVER been in a game like this where people were so focused on the sell out and didn't get bored and wanted to move on to the next match.
This situation isn't super common but it happens so often that its just dumb. Yesterday in the 2v8 we had this happen where its the slug out for the 8 k. Like OMG can we move on already!!!! This is just petty. Not only does it waste the survivors time but it also wastes their time! You're not making any points why do it?!!? Ugh. And then brainless Behavior is like "We're going to implement an anti unhook feature to solve an almost non existent aggravation" BEHAVIOR, THIS SLUGGING FOR THE 4K HAPPENS FARRRRRR MORE OFTEN THEN PEOPLE BM'ING SPAMMING UNHOOK. Fuck this game and its oblivious development team.
Zubat is the 4% boy
here before the bots
how is bro so calm like dawg i would be tweaking 90% of the time with those plays
He has like 6k hours he’s desensitized to it
imagine zubat oiled up
oh mikaela players count your days... 3:33
I swear Zubat said he would be live today.... hmmm..............
all that for sable to get hatch anyway
I understand the DC penalty in theory, I just think it's stupid. It's like a 'no tolerance' policy. In a match like the final one here, I'd rather DC and get into another game so I can enjoy my time. If your internet is shiz and you realize you should stop, the killer is lagswitching/obviously hacking, etc- then the penalty does more harm than good. Especially since it can go up to 5-6 hours at least.
another match where boys become men after a sweaty attempt to 4k in a game wich is not intended to have a competitive system and players sees it as one like it is the end of the world if they don't achieve a 4k lmaoo
And the survivors see it as the end of the world if they don't get a chance at hatch. It works both ways. Both sides are being petty and childish.
so how bout that fnaf announcement fellas
Slugging for 4K would disappear completely if they reworked hatch and 2v1 stand-offs. But BHVR is too occupied making Sable cosmetics to think straight.
yeah, how dare those art team developers, who are specialized in 3d animation and design, not work on game balance
@@noxirbyug And who was it that chose to hire more art devs and less game devs? Unless you're claiming you did, or that it's impossible not to, BHVR chose to.
@@noxirbyug You think everyone is getting the same resources? Ofc the art team is getting more literally look at the state of this patch. Dumbasses keep saying this shit when if you had critical thinking, you would know they're just pumping more resources into the art team instead of devs.
@@xraze6906 Dooooon't care
@@xraze6906 Who says theres more "Art devs" and less "Game devs"? they are two completely separate parts that work together to make the game. Blaming the art team for existing is ridiculous, the game devs are lacking.
i see this killer behavior all the time, it's become ridiculous how long they are willing to hold you hostage for their "ego 4k"
It's funny how both sides can effectively hold a game hostage in the 1v2, both survivors can hide without ever attempting the gens, and the Killer can do.. this.
Outside of the dumb adept achievements I really don't get slugging for 4k's, when I'm in the 1v2 situation as Killer I just want the game over with, walking around the map for 10 minutes looking for the last survivor is awfully fucking boring. Something needs to be done about it, force start EGC timer or something after a certain amount of time, I don't know.
Had a game where a duo of Claudettes intentionally hid at 2v1 for 15 min until they made a mistake and I spotted them. Then said “hiding is playing the game by increasing your survival chances.” Literal degeneracy.
Hey Regera, are some of these just older clips or is there any possibility you have used em in other videos? I'm just curious, cause I feel I know some of these. Maybe just from older streams. :) Keep up the good work, love it!
@12:20 the match is unlosable for the killer as you mentioned... so instead of complaining that the killer shouldn't slug for the 4K, which he is entitled to to be fair, why not just go and give him the 4K instead of wasting time? I'm not trying to be a dick, just a legit question.
yup, zub is equally at fault for hiding as this doc slugging for 4k. the only bannable offense there is sable snitching and nothing else, he could do a gen so there is no taking hostage either.
Pro tip for bhvr: if you are being slugged for 50% get a notification and you can leave the game without penalty if the game is at least 10 minutes. Also same for killers who get hold hostage by swfs and cheaters just make it so they can leave freely after like 5-10 min. Easy sovled.
name a more iconic duo than anon mode + playing like a massive loser
These survivors are worse than bots
Calling slugging for the 4k bannable is just dumb, it’s mean but you both could easily go to the killer after he downs one and let the game end, nobody is holding you hostage except yourself. Especially considering merciless killer (for adepts) is a literal win condition relying on a 4k.
And even if you are the one on the floor, the game is gaurenteed to end in 4 minutes, again not holding hostage.
They should give survs perma unbreakable when there is only 2 survivors left. Slugging for the 4k is a grueling and extremely annoying experience
I think its also crazy that this isn't considered taking the game hostage...
Half the shit that happens in dbd is proof that there really is no justice
I think this all the time in my matches 😂
I think first time I decided to read the comments and there is such 💩 lol
"oh no Zubat complainer I unsubscribe!!!"
"ha ha ha Zubat is craaazy he wants killers get banned for doing 4k lol lmao hahahhehhehe😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣"
It's good that at least their comments allow the video to be viewed more...
wake up babe zubat is being schizophrenic again
13:30 survs trying not to complain for 2 matches in a row
slugs for the 4k, wastes 8 minutes of everyones time and gives last person hatch? wtf?? I really hope it banable because thats just bs
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By the same logic of you complaining about them slugging for the 4k they could complain about you hiding for the hatch. Dont try and flame the killer for doing exactly what you are doing.
Obvious bait is obvious.
@keltonschleyer6367 this isn't bait, this is just the truth. I still enjoy zubats content. But half of what he complains about is stuff he does.
@@Darksage5555 I agree we should be consistent with our standards and behavior. But the doctor initiated the BM by intentionally slugging. Going to find him a second time would change nothing. That changes the calculus.
@keltonschleyer6367 slugging isn't bad though. He didn't "initiate" any behavior, he was playing to win.
On top of that, zubat was being far more hostile than anything we saw from doc.
It even ends with "I bet he won't hook me and will bleed me out" or something to that point then doc almost immediately hooks him. I think people need to stop taking everything so personal. Not just zub, alot of content creators, killer and survivor, think everything is super personal.
@@Darksage5555 I've thought about this a lot and I actually agree with your point. Hatch is a bad mechanic because it requires one side to concede pressure to move the game forward, and that obligation exists for both sides.
People take these things personal because they are personal, because they affect individual people. I'll explain.
Everyone is hostile and assumes bad faith in DBD because the game has two significant flaws: 1) Fun gameplay and optimal gameplay are mutually exclusive in this game, and 2) The mechanics leave too much room for players to act out of ego, malice, and spite, contrary to the flow of the game.
Behaviors like hiding or slugging for the 4k are universally despised because they are not fun and they are intentionally caused by other players. Sure, they're optimal, but they're boring, are caused by your opponent, and remove agency from you.
Every other multiplayer game I think of is designed so optimal, fun, and streamlined gameplay are identical. Shoot the other team, capture the objective, win, next game. Optimal DBD removes agency from the other players and leaves them with nothing to do. Camping hooks and tunneling people is optimal, but is boring and ruins the experience. Spending 4 minutes on the ground doing nothing so someone can get 3k extra blood points is literally a waste of time. Wandering around for 15 minutes looking for two rat players is boring because you've lost agency to move the game forward.
People hate these aspects of DBD because it ruins their experience, isn't engaging, wastes their time, and is exclusively caused by their opponent to their personal detriment. It's tolerable in good faith because empathetic players will clean up their mess and let people go next ASAP. But a lot of players use bad DBD design to exert power over the other players exclusively for their own interests.
So yeah, these are all game mechanics, but players are jaded from experiencing poorly designed game mechanics that allow their opponent to benefit from their suffering, especially when it happens countless times from sociopathic strangers in public lobbies.
The old adage, "if you don't like the game experience, play something different," is absolutely correct here, but the Survivor and Killer Rulebooks were an early expression of the persistent issues people have found with the design of this game.
Is this a repost?
I’m not gonna lie. Subasta behavior this episode was awful. Dude was legitimately an a hole when it came to the titles match.
Agreed
You laid on the ground for 4 gens?😅
i had a streamer do that to me. (wont name names) 5 minutes he slugged a fucking bot. the full duration + more let it wiggle out and everything. because i wasnt hooked yet. so he got the bot to near death then picked it up wouldnt down it.
the reason i never gave him a hook was literally strategic because he had pain res and fucking grim embrace what else are you suppose to do. other wise its 60 seconds and you lose.
I want zubatlel bussy
I get people don't like being bled out but isn't hiding in a locker dodging afk crows while nobody does an objective just as much of a petty waste of everyone's time? Does a chance at an rng hatch really matter that much?
Not only that but shows a clip camping 3 different pallets to stop oni from using his power, yes he can avoid the stun but like really gotta dump all 3 of those back to back on him then complains about slugging for the 4k as if he hasn’t done it lol but we wont see any clips of him doing it ofc
@@prestonficht6189 how the fuck are these things even remotely related lmao
@@miasma1718both are time wasting and actively going against game mechanics. Both should have heavy punishments
@@Midnight_x_Sin i'm yelling. banned for dropping pallets
@@miasma1718 you just want to fight hahaha but I was talking about the original comment. I just realized you were talking to a reply. Anyway, I hope you get the attention you want ^^
I've never been so early
You look like mini ladd
Waiting for a person only hooked once to die. When she stood up, probably with Unbreakable, he didn't even healed the lady. So, he what he deserved. I get the idea, the killer wanted the guy looping him for a long time. That's why he was slugging the other one and hooked this guy at the first chance.
Besides, the guy is just doing the killer's work. I'm a main survivor int his game, but I get that this "main survivor base" cry a lot for nothing. And the worst part... Behavior listens to this kind of people. It's a shame, often unbalancing the game for one side, and then they have to fix it again, and again, and again...
Obvious bait is obvious
@@keltonschleyer6367 YES, precisely what I'm talking about
Oh Feng... Just change your damn controls
I’m a console player, ffs why don’t my fellow console players change their input bindings. So embarrassing dropping pallets on your teammates heads. Giving us all a bad name.
If you hate when killer wants the 2k by slugging and don't want the game to drag... isn't it a bit hypocritical to say why this killer wants to win this hard this is dumb when you are doing the same thing? Either you let him find you and forfeit your win, or he hooks and forfeits his. Takes two to tango. This game could have ended in a minute max after the clip starts if you let him catch you. Why do something you don't enjoy? Unless... you wanted to win and escape? Just like the doctor wanted to kill and win?
Most survivors dont look at escaping as winning, its just a reprieve.
Your pfp fits.
“You should reward my bad behavior by giving me what I want.” - the toddler mindset
AI is taking over dbd
11:52 so it's okay for the survivors to escape/win the game but it's bad when the killers go for a 4k aka win the game?
Survivor mains trying to be fair, not toxic and not biased IMPOSSIBLE challenge 🔥‼️🗣️🔥
*I do this*
next time report players like these both in game and on bhvr forum. 2 day ban isn't much but it's one less step to get perma banned if they keep doing it
killers who do what?
bhvr gives no shit about killers slugging unfortunately, quite cringe
Survivors who constantly give up on hooks should be banned
Killers Be Like: my matches are so hard, why are my matches so sweaty all of the time?
Also Killers: slugs for the 4k every match
(what a joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣)
dead by daylight
I always slug for the 4k because of ego, but the survs complaining about the slug are just as egotistical as me imo, if you don't want to wait then just let yourself get found so I can end the match quicker. Incidentally I never let the killer find me when I'm playing the survivor, but you don't see me complaining.
It is an ego battle, but the one who starts it is the killer
You're everything that's wrong with DBD, and you don't even know it LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@StizzY8 think whatever makes you feel better about the slug lol
zubat biggest complainer in dbd. killers should be banned for getting 4k 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
its wasting time the doctor didnt even get the 4k he was babyraging for. dude should just hook and then go for him instead of wasting about 8 minutes afterwards. who cares about 4ks if its quick kts how much time he wastes and not even getting it anyways
Stalling the game for minutes on end and teaming up with a survivor who you've previously slugged to find another survivor because you're too salty and butthurt that he looped you well is bullshit in whatever way you look at it. Zubat did nothing, just used the games mechanics as they are intended to be played. And on top of that, no, he didn't get a 4K, he gave the Sable the hatch. If you aren't trolling you are most likely partially blind:)
Zubat doesn't want killers who want the 4k banned, he was referring to his teammate literally taking the killer to his position while pointing in his direction. Teaming with the killer while playing survivor is bannable just so you know? You mong 😂😂🤣🤣
Coping survivor main in a survivor sided game😂😂😂.
So you would rather do squats for ten minutes at zero hook states than just see what you can do for the remaining mate, try and get a gen, or just call it a day and go next? And then you have the gall to complain about solo queue mates... you were literally the problem here bud.
Ez
sluggling for 4k is toxic yeah but should not be bannable, terrible take wtf
i disagree with zubat ... they should increase the panalty to make people SO WHINEY play the game through or not at all its nothing to do with the killer how they play if you as survivor play bad you want out
survivors's are entitled for their dc's and no penalty zubat just proved this
"worse parts of the game " yet survivors will go and hide and never help the downed person either ? making it just as bad being you also hold the game hostage no gens being done or anything YOU CANT COMPLAIN
zubat wants people banned for getting 4k but DOESNT DO A GEN WHILE SOMEONE IS SLUGGED
btw the one slugged got out cause zubat didnt want to do a gen or help in ANY WAY damn looks like you got a taste of your own meds in the end
First, it’s ironic that you’re complaining about survivors complaining and showing entitlement for a 4k and calling survivors entitled for not wanting to deal with your ego
Really? Against the freddy you could have vaulted but hey you got streamer mentality and give fault to other people
Edit: i unsubscribed, because you do that really often lately.
He should have been positioned to stop and tank a hit in the first place. It was a bad play by him to allow a gap. What is he supposed to do but assume the person preparing to take a hit takes a hit? Are you seriously insane
Idk if you saw this or noticed this, but maybe use your eyes just a little bit, there was no vault prompt. the second renato stopped healing he couldnt have vaulted, because he was being blocked in and there was no prompt to vault. i know its hard using your brain though
he didnt even fully fault the guy and said at least the guy tried to help. he wasnt even raging just made an observation.
Gg ez