@@cheesejadeitekiwifox Gotta love the internet. Always someone willing to argue in the face of provable facts. Big uncomfortable, unrideable Choppers were a fad and the fad is dead. Yeah, a few builders remain but another 80 custom builders have long since vanished. End of story, nothing to argue about.
the building for cost 11.9 million that foreclosed on 1.3 million … Paul Senior has gone bankrupt… For closing on his multimillion dollar house, too… And then runs away to Florida fucking the vendors
Excellent presentation. Thank you. That said, OCC wasn't successful or even close. The whole mess was a self serving temple to their own egos and it still continues in Florida. They left a trail of tears for both their customers and investors.
The museum and Restaurant in Florida are licensed out.........OCC does not own it, I was told by one of the employees..............I've seen several of their bikes for sale, less than 20k and I believe a guy bought one for 8k that came with papers that showed it sold for 80k new.
Original building was on Stone Castle Road, next to OC Iron Works, was in the early shows. The 61,000-square-foot building on Route 17K in the Town of Newburgh has been on the auction block since Monday, with a minimum bid of $900,000
@@lueyRno it wasn't brick it was painted block and steel the shop was the basement of ociw them they added on till they went to the second building then built the new building using his son's ociw that he screwed over by not paying and now he says pd the rights to some dude in Florida
Yeah I've seen some of the bikes actually looked over, nuts the amount of money for what you got. Mostly just bone stock engines from companies like Harley, minus actual usability. They're designed to sit in a display case not ride, form over function gone mad.
Most of the engines they used were S&S motors. Occasionally they would do an oddball, like the Briggs & Stratton Vanguard V-Twin or a refurbished Old HD eng.
@@sik59rtLeno is a spoiled, elitist douche bag. In all of Jesse James’ shows I only saw him bend one tube, 2 seconds of welding, his suction cupped seat flew off and jaw jacked with a trucker while Indian Larry re tapped the rocker box cover bolt threads and bitched about his white trash gf…..at least he washed the dog in the sink before he gave it to Shaq.
I was able to visit here twice. The first time I was in the area and found it by accident. I wondered around the retail shop before going and eating at the cafe. The second time I went, they were in the process of shutting down. I was also able to get a tour of the production area. Not a lot of the bikes were on display at that time as they were being transferred, I would assume to Flordia, where OCC is now. I am glad I got the chance to see it in full swing and in its days where it was going out.
Amazing i lived for thus show every week. I watched it all the way through to jrs. Success in his own company. I still cannot believe it is comoleltey gone
I was working in the area while it was open and still running. I had bought a sweatshirt and long sleeve tee. I still wear them till this day. Most people I talked to them were really good quality. I remember to the two bars and the bowling lane if my memory serves me right. I was saddened to hear the closing. The bikes were amazing to look at. Thanks for bring me back to a good time in my life.
I remember watching the show on occasion wasn't a huge fan but enjoyed it on the occasions I watched it. As a life long lower hudson valley resident, appreciate the tour of what once was a thriving operation. Have been in the area many times without knowing. I didn't realize how big their headquarters was, an interesting building, obviously has been a challenge finding a buyer/developer to do something with it. The brick logo on the walkway should be removed and preserved somehow, can see it on a future American Pickers type show 30 years down the road being a piece of American pop culture history. They were certainly among the first and most successful reality shows. If those walls could talk. Thanks for sharing 👍🏽
In 2011 I visited the Headquarters Building and still have the cap I bought. In your video, when you walked to the left and past the handicapped parking area, what you see is the actual area where the filming took place. Those windows on the inside on the right is where you could stand and watch them. When I was there I stood and took pictures of Rick working on a bike while being filmed. I also went to the Paul Jr. Designs location you showed. I walked halfway down the driveway before a nice production person came out and told me they were filming and I couldn't go inside. He told me they did not have a merchandise area and referred me to HQ. I was hoping to see Paul Jr. or Vinnie. Just took some pictures of the building and truck with the PJD logo. I was on a business trip to NYC and drove out for a day trip.
Very cool, it jars some good memories, some not good if you missed the guys that one day but yea its all good stuff i actually missed paul jrs very last location after the large building, he had a small place in town more of a display for some bikes i dont think he did any actual work there, i never went in and planned a stop by and he either sold or rented to a karate studio, it was in mongomery real close to the very first building i showed in the video
I've ridden out from Massachusetts to see these locations while they were in use and after. interesting how they declined so quickly. Fun fact-just a couple miles over the Hudson there is a great motorcycle museum called Motorcylepedia.
Yes motorcycle pedia is in the same town, i have a few clips of it in my history list here on TH-cam, its a great area for the 2 wheel fan thanks for checking in
Having been in there and inside, the original was in the basement of OCIW. Behind the building. Then they moved "upstairs" to the front of the building. This is two doors down from where Jr would later build his shop. Its only a short drive from their final shop next to the airport. Their middle shop next to the railroad ive never been to, however i know the roof collapsed shortly after they moved out
Cant tell you how many times i went through them doors and each times i went it got emptier and lacked everything that it was built for. Once the series ended for that few years they went down hill. Jr was smart and landed a small place to just build bikes and hes doing fine and expanded to lbi now. This was way beyond there means and at some point they had to know the party was gonna end. Jr leaving there operation really put a hault on there business and they slowly started going down hill.
The company actually started in the Basement of Sr.‘s house that he eventually gave to Mikey then it was in an addition of the ironworks until Sr. Sold it to the middle son and they moved to the building across from JR.s eventual shop and then to the big shop.
I was there in 2008 during a 2 week NE road trip vacation. What really surprised me was how close this facility was to the original location. Roughly 3 miles East on hwy 17. The Show depicted these locations as though they were 20-30 miles from each other. I was there Vinnie Demartino and Cody had left the shop/show. I found out Vinnie had opened his own shop in partnership with Cody called “V-Force Customs”in a location literally around the corner from the from the original OCC location. I stopped in at his shop and we chatted briefly. He was working on a Contracted chopper build for the owner of an Arena Football team, I don’t recall the name though. He essentially tried riding the coattails of OCC using the notoriety of being on the show showcasing his own Fabrication skills in doing the actual bike building versus Junior coming in occasionally to give his 2 cents on design styles. Don’t get wrong, Junior had some really cool designs, but after the first two seasons of the show, did very little of the fabrication work after that.
This is what happens when you have a core product that has a very limited customer base. Their bikes were too expensive for the masses and impractical as daily riders, which limits them to a very small group of customer that had very deep pockets, a love of bikes and a desire to show it all off. The businesses expansion relied too heavily on the popularity of the TV show, made up mostly of an audience who would never be able to afford to buy their bikes. You can only make so much money selling t-shirts, and once the show ends selling those t-shirts becomes a lot more difficult.
Yea, had their bikes had actual suspension, they probably would still have been around in some fashion. Then again their bikes were nevere really meant to be ridden, as much as they were designed to be showpieces.
Weren’t they on stone castle Road in Rock Tavern at some point too? Can’t believe that building is going to waste now- it was near that building that Paul Jr had
So sad, I have been there a couple of times back when they first opened the new facility. You couldn’t even find a parking spot, it was packed inside with all their motorcycles like a museum, and there was a long enclosed walkway with windows along the way to watch the show being filmed and the cast working on the bikes. Sad to see it sitting empty with the parking lot starting to fall in disrepair. Thanks for the memories.
I used to drive by the big building everyday on my way to work until i moved in 2017 and i would pass paul sr still driving his bright yellow 06ish hummer h2. Parking lot there was always empty. Right before i moved i heard they were working on fourwheelers and small engine repairs in the back just to keep it going with like 2 employees
The very first original location actually was on stone castle rd in rock tavern ny, behind the original Orange County iron works. The second shop was that building you went to first. The HQ in Newburgh was the last location 4 shops total
Wrong. This video has the correct very first shop, before the show. The 2nd and 3rd shop were in Rock Tavern at the same address, they even expanded on the 3rd shop eventually. Then eventually built the headquarters in Newburgh.
The location in the first clip is actually their 5th location as others have said it started in Sr’s basement then at the iron works then the lower shop that was built then a new shop was built above the lower shop then your first clip then newburg then Florida
If the show stayed on the air, it would still be going strong. The whole custom chopper market collapsed. When your customers disappear and move on to other things, you have to shut down. Opening a business is a skill & knowing when to close a business is a skill too. They had an incredible run & made the most of it & tried to stay on even longer, in retrsopect, than they probably should have, but who knows if the market would shift back again. Great memories.
Show was canceled cause it lost its luster. So i doubt it would still be on sir today dur to it canceled. Problem was the market softened and it was less bikes and corporations comn gettn bikes built and more fake story to get through episodes. Even the very final one where they went back to where it all started to team up was bad.
As soon as the financial crash hit in 2008 and suburban outlaw wannabees were no longer able to get home equity loans for 100k to buy a chopper, it was all over.
The show was nothing more than an hour long ad for the corporation paying the bill? The bikes were gaudy and seemed mostly un-rideable any distance? The idea of form over functionality goes just so far. Gee, how many times did they powder coated threads?
Jr. was the really creative person in the OCC enterprise. Sr. badgered him until he gave up and walked out, and then OCC started sinking. Jr. and Sr. had the legal war, and somewhere in there their staff left. Mikey was caught in the middle of it all - I felt badly for him. So much family dirty laundry was aired - sad. Sr. didn’t have what it took to keep the place going. At the end they were building kit bikes instead of building bikes from scratch - they were using prebuilt frames, crate Harley engines, and aftermarket parts to finish them. They obviously didn’t care - the magic was gone. It’s sad seeing what’s left and pondering what it might have been if egos had been put aside. All that is left is Sr’s hubris.
Jr definitely took the concept of themed bikes and blew everyone away with his imagination and ideas. Family and business are a bad combination unless it’s shared as a business venture together… unfortunately they got it wrong and we all watched it disappear
On one hand it is interesting to see how things change. On the other hand I feel sad about it. It was such a cool series on TV. I was a big fan of Vin. After he leaved OCC I enjoyed Cody's work very much... So sad 😞 Thank you for this Video.
You're welcome. Thanks for checking in and I do agree. When the time the TV show came out, it was like unique, one of a kind they laid the groundwork for whatever TV is out there today. But yeah, it's a sad situation.
Looking at that building just reinforces the fact that both father and son were insane. There’s absolutely zero reason to construct something that monstrous for a company that is “cottage” at best. And the bank that made the genius decision to fund that fools endeavor should be investigated by the F.T.C.
Good point, i heard once they said in "quote" go big or go home ! I dont agree with that but they literally could have built bikes in a 1200 sq ft. Building , they wanted the retail part of it and the disney world affect to wow people
My former employer had ties to Orange County Choppers, so I made constant trips to all facilities. I knew that right away from the jump when I met both Senior and Junior that it would only take a short time until the OCC EVENTUALLY met its demise at least in its New York location. My former colleague worked directly for OCC. I made many trips to the OCC world center for many car shows for Mazda. Those were some great memories that I will forever remember. I’m sure some of those Mazda enthusiasts have made some comments on this exact thing. Paul Jr has a shop in New Jersey now. Not sure if he’s still operating out of New York. So as a whole. The entire OCC Company failed due to lack of leadership. That’s just my perspective. It definitely could have succeeded further in the New York location. However things happen for a reason. I know the state of Florida location has been doing very well from what I understand. I think that’s more of a cafe and restaurant with a small shop in that location. Overall a great video. Nicely done.
Thank you very much for your insight and extra detail , i know Jr. Was still here in new york on a much smaller scale as recent as last year, i didnt know he went to NJ, very interesting, the FLORIDA locale i have heard, is holding its own to a degree, nothing like the glory days of course, and i aslo have seen comments on the Mazda interest as well, so in a nut shell its been a very interesting ride for the business the fans and the local community for sure, it makes for some cool stories, memories and some good old fun !thank you for watching, commenting and especially enjoying the vid.
They built absolutely the ugliest custom bikes I’ve seen in my 50 plus years of riding motorcycles. They beat that “theme bike” concept to death which no self respecting biker would have anything to do with. Don’t get me started on the drama. Fighting like a bunch of spoiled brats.
Yea i mentioned it that rhey started in the little shop and than moved upstairs and knocked out a few walls and than from there by season 3 they moved to the factory where majority of the show took place. That was at there peak of fame and fourtune. I always said to this day they shoulda stayed right where they were. They had all that parking lot and scross street that they coulda expanded if needed
It's been a long time since I watched the show, but I'm pretty sure there was a second building between the "original" location and the "HQ". I remember them moving their stuff.
I went there once in my life in 2019 my brothers friend came down and gave us a Nintendo switch with a copy of breath of the wild lol I still use that switch to this day and after that it was night and we went to Orange County choppers and played on the arcade there. I’m so sad it closed down
I remember first seeing their new building on TV and thinking: whomever from the bank that agreed to loan these guys that amount of money was a fool and wouldn’t see 10% of it back 🤣 and here we are 20 years later… I bet the loan writer is long gone by now!
It actually started on Stone Castle road at the iron works building before they got the tv show and bought most of the parts from v twin on scobie drive 10 minutes away they grew to big too quick with egos to match
TV show or not. That building drew in a lot of tourism dollars for the area. Paul Sr even said the lockdowns were the final straw for moving operations to Florida
Agreed the town should have assisted in any way they could to maintain a flow of people to the area and with the airport across the street the flow and economy was paramount even during lock down things had to move etc.
The funny thing is that Paul senior's operation has ceased to exist and he was the one who expanded who got the publicity who built a calf to sell even more merchandise but Paul junior's operation is still in business and still has a clientele base just shows you that the way Paul junior Ran his business and treated his employees speaks volume to which establishment is still operating and which has filed for chapter 11
I was getting sick of the show about the time they were building that and I remember shaking my head because I had a feeling the craze had about run its course and that building was gonna be an albatross...
You recorded your own crime...j/k So sad ,I've watched this show from the beginning and still do in reruns.Senior sunk his own business ,even Junior said it in an episode once.The money just got to Senior's head ,I mean look at the compound & the car collection he had.All that success ,fame came and gone just like that.Guess the American dream turned into a nightmare.Good luck to all the former employees who worked there who dealt with a maniac of a boss all those years.
All true, lol the show was uniquely done, for sure at the Tim'e it was pioneering to say the least, it was also a smash living in the area while history was being made, thanks for looking and commenting
Their eyes were bigger than their stomachs. Just like with Gas Monkey. Richard was basically a car flipper with rich friends. Next thing you know he is on the TV and buying/building themed restaurants. OCC was a bunch of steel workers that did some bike assembly on the side. When Discovery came along they thought they were superstars and it would never end. Next thing you know they are building that insanity of a bike shop like there was going to be endless people with a 100 grand a pop wanting a bike with no suspension and a gas tank that holds a gallon of gas. They had to have really thought that it would stay that way for the next 30 years while they paid off the mortgage. Looks like Gas Monkey got to keep his garage. OCC you aint keeping any of it.
Paul sr is the best example of where megalomania and complete overconfidence can lead. More and more and more. it was never enough for him. The fact that his whole family fell by the wayside in the process bothered him relatively little. but now the old man is sitting in florida and making a big deal out of it and thinks he's still the greatest
Your information is not correct.The building you showed as there first building was actually there second building,first shop was a small location in Rock Tavern,Ny
The first location you showed isn’t the original shop. The first one was in Rock Tavern, NY. Where the first Jet Bike and the 9/11 Fireman bike was built. The first place you show is where they moved to after they started to get really big.
The operating cost day to day was insane. Must be around 30 to 40 k a day when you factor in salary insurance electric and all the other things I didn't mention. But it's insane to keep a place like this going from day to day so at some point when that money stops coming in time to close the doors. This is what happens when you overgrow
@@mtbokor1969 well if you really think about it the cost of the insurance the payroll the taxes the energy bills the company vehicles also the insurance and the gas on them. All of the building materials that need to come in to keep production going. That 30 to 40 k might be a week more I think about it. I own a business and it's expensive to operate daily
@@ericerto8250 After I wrote my comment I realized you are probably close wiuth your numbers. Who knows how much money they borrowed to buy the land and build their building. Even with $$ flowing into the show, running a business is expensive and many times the owners overextend themselves thinking the financial success will never end
The first indication of occ going down hill was when they built the building and moved in and then had to sell it because senior needed the money He spent so much money collecting bikes cars Money his house He could not afford to keep that building
That facility is insane. Who knew that a custom made chopper fad tied to a couple of reality TV shows would fade out? 😆
@@cheesejadeitekiwifox Gotta love the internet. Always someone willing to argue in the face of provable facts. Big uncomfortable, unrideable Choppers were a fad and the fad is dead. Yeah, a few builders remain but another 80 custom builders have long since vanished. End of story, nothing to argue about.
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@@cheesejadeitekiwifox I watched the show specifically FOR the fighting and antics. I used to laugh my ass off!
the building for cost 11.9 million that foreclosed on 1.3 million … Paul Senior has gone bankrupt… For closing on his multimillion dollar house, too… And then runs away to Florida fucking the vendors
The old man ruined everything because he was so enamored with his own magnificence.
Great statement
Nailed it.
Yep. Big head of Paul's
just remember it was the same personality that built it
@@why33-00 people like watching a business burn down, celebrities are sheep and follow one another. Well they found out it was a gimmick, P.O.S. bikes
Lot of people might not know but Paul Jr was the one who designed that logo
Excellent presentation. Thank you. That said, OCC wasn't successful or even close. The whole mess was a self serving temple to their own egos and it still continues in Florida. They left a trail of tears for both their customers and investors.
Your very welcome glad u likedit
The museum and Restaurant in Florida are licensed out.........OCC does not own it, I was told by one of the employees..............I've seen several of their bikes for sale, less than 20k and I believe a guy bought one for 8k that came with papers that showed it sold for 80k new.
Original building was on Stone Castle Road, next to OC Iron Works, was in the early shows. The 61,000-square-foot building on Route 17K in the Town of Newburgh has been on the auction block since Monday, with a minimum bid of $900,000
Interesting info
That huge building is only 900,000? Wow. Figured it be way more.
@TheTomcory no not that one. The original worskhop he means. Much smaller brick building
@@radvision2631interesting dude your not even a fan
@@lueyRno it wasn't brick it was painted block and steel the shop was the basement of ociw them they added on till they went to the second building then built the new building using his son's ociw that he screwed over by not paying and now he says pd the rights to some dude in Florida
Calling any thing built by OCC a Motorcycle is like calling a Wheel Barrow a Cadillac.
Yeah I've seen some of the bikes actually looked over, nuts the amount of money for what you got. Mostly just bone stock engines from companies like Harley, minus actual usability. They're designed to sit in a display case not ride, form over function gone mad.
Leno was pretty spot on about his
Most of the engines they used were S&S motors. Occasionally they would do an oddball, like the Briggs & Stratton Vanguard V-Twin or a refurbished Old HD eng.
@@sik59rtLeno is a spoiled, elitist douche bag. In all of Jesse James’ shows I only saw him bend one tube, 2 seconds of welding, his suction cupped seat flew off and jaw jacked with a trucker while Indian Larry re tapped the rocker box cover bolt threads and bitched about his white trash gf…..at least he washed the dog in the sink before he gave it to Shaq.
@@sik59rt Amen to that. Leno knows what he's talking about. The Tuetels *_wish_* they knew a tenth as much.
I was able to visit here twice. The first time I was in the area and found it by accident. I wondered around the retail shop before going and eating at the cafe. The second time I went, they were in the process of shutting down. I was also able to get a tour of the production area. Not a lot of the bikes were on display at that time as they were being transferred, I would assume to Flordia, where OCC is now. I am glad I got the chance to see it in full swing and in its days where it was going out.
This makes me sad. I truly enjoyed OCC in their early years. To see where it all ended breaks my heart. 😢
Thanx for this video. I visited it in 2014. Saw senior, Christian, and Rick working on bikes in the back. Jr was gone
Welcome glad it entertained
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@@RustyZipperAnd don't eat yellow snow
Amazing i lived for thus show every week. I watched it all the way through to jrs. Success in his own company. I still cannot believe it is comoleltey gone
I have a picture of me standing on those steps in front of all of those windows of that new OCC building in 2011. It was huge.
I remember visiting the new headquarters while it was being built. Fun times watching that show.
Went to several car meets there. Got a tour of the facility by one of Mazda owners who worked there. Awesome building!
I was working in the area while it was open and still running. I had bought a sweatshirt and long sleeve tee. I still wear them till this day. Most people I talked to them were really good quality. I remember to the two bars and the bowling lane if my memory serves me right. I was saddened to hear the closing. The bikes were amazing to look at. Thanks for bring me back to a good time in my life.
Your welcome unexpected trip back in time ,awesome thanks for watching and commenting
I feel old, like I'm in the future, remember watching the tv show.
I remember watching the show on occasion wasn't a huge fan but enjoyed it on the occasions I watched it. As a life long lower hudson valley resident, appreciate the tour of what once was a thriving operation. Have been in the area many times without knowing. I didn't realize how big their headquarters was, an interesting building, obviously has been a challenge finding a buyer/developer to do something with it. The brick logo on the walkway should be removed and preserved somehow, can see it on a future American Pickers type show 30 years down the road being a piece of American pop culture history. They were certainly among the first and most successful reality shows. If those walls could talk. Thanks for sharing 👍🏽
10:45 that’s the door junior slammed when he quit
Good point out i didnt recall that nice
In 2011 I visited the Headquarters Building and still have the cap I bought. In your video, when you walked to the left and past the handicapped parking area, what you see is the actual area where the filming took place. Those windows on the inside on the right is where you could stand and watch them. When I was there I stood and took pictures of Rick working on a bike while being filmed. I also went to the Paul Jr. Designs location you showed. I walked halfway down the driveway before a nice production person came out and told me they were filming and I couldn't go inside. He told me they did not have a merchandise area and referred me to HQ. I was hoping to see Paul Jr. or Vinnie. Just took some pictures of the building and truck with the PJD logo. I was on a business trip to NYC and drove out for a day trip.
Very cool, it jars some good memories, some not good if you missed the guys that one day but yea its all good stuff i actually missed paul jrs very last location after the large building, he had a small place in town more of a display for some bikes i dont think he did any actual work there, i never went in and planned a stop by and he either sold or rented to a karate studio, it was in mongomery real close to the very first building i showed in the video
I've ridden out from Massachusetts to see these locations while they were in use and after. interesting how they declined so quickly. Fun fact-just a couple miles over the Hudson there is a great motorcycle museum called Motorcylepedia.
Yes motorcycle pedia is in the same town, i have a few clips of it in my history list here on TH-cam, its a great area for the 2 wheel fan thanks for checking in
Having been in there and inside, the original was in the basement of OCIW. Behind the building. Then they moved "upstairs" to the front of the building. This is two doors down from where Jr would later build his shop. Its only a short drive from their final shop next to the airport. Their middle shop next to the railroad ive never been to, however i know the roof collapsed shortly after they moved out
When I saw Paul Sr. at an outdoor sports show I was amazed how small in stature he was, eventhough he had platform boots on.
How tall do you think he is without having lift boots on?
The first shop was in the basement of the steel shop from what I remember. When it was just a plot show in season 1
Yea i understand that once the show was signed for full seasons it went to the yellow building
You missed the original building at the ironworks location. They had the area next to it and a new building below it….
Junior has a little storefront on Long Beach Island NJ now. Not sure why, but there are a bunch of custom bikes from the show there.
Cant tell you how many times i went through them doors and each times i went it got emptier and lacked everything that it was built for. Once the series ended for that few years they went down hill. Jr was smart and landed a small place to just build bikes and hes doing fine and expanded to lbi now. This was way beyond there means and at some point they had to know the party was gonna end. Jr leaving there operation really put a hault on there business and they slowly started going down hill.
I remember when they had a webcam/livesteam of this building on their website as it was being constructed in 2005 or something.
Absolutely i actually forgot about that Good call
The company actually started in the Basement of Sr.‘s house that he eventually gave to Mikey then it was in an addition of the ironworks until Sr. Sold it to the middle son and they moved to the building across from JR.s eventual shop and then to the big shop.
I was there in 2008 during a 2 week NE road trip vacation. What really surprised me was how close this facility was to the original location. Roughly 3 miles East on hwy 17. The Show depicted these locations as though they were 20-30 miles from each other. I was there Vinnie Demartino and Cody had left the shop/show. I found out Vinnie had opened his own shop in partnership with Cody called “V-Force Customs”in a location literally around the corner from the from the original OCC location. I stopped in at his shop and we chatted briefly. He was working on a Contracted chopper build for the owner of an Arena Football team, I don’t recall the name though. He essentially tried riding the coattails of OCC using the notoriety of being on the show showcasing his own Fabrication skills in doing the actual bike building versus Junior coming in occasionally to give his 2 cents on design styles. Don’t get wrong, Junior had some really cool designs, but after the first two seasons of the show, did very little of the fabrication work after that.
Very informative , vinnie is still in town doing his thing btw
This is what happens when you have a core product that has a very limited customer base. Their bikes were too expensive for the masses and impractical as daily riders, which limits them to a very small group of customer that had very deep pockets, a love of bikes and a desire to show it all off.
The businesses expansion relied too heavily on the popularity of the TV show, made up mostly of an audience who would never be able to afford to buy their bikes. You can only make so much money selling t-shirts, and once the show ends selling those t-shirts becomes a lot more difficult.
Yea, had their bikes had actual suspension, they probably would still have been around in some fashion. Then again their bikes were nevere really meant to be ridden, as much as they were designed to be showpieces.
The headquarters is now a storage unit facility. Building still looks the same but it's now filled with storage units
Weren’t they on stone castle Road in Rock Tavern at some point too? Can’t believe that building is going to waste now- it was near that building that Paul Jr had
When you see that abandoned building, one word comes to mind: hubris.
So sad, I have been there a couple of times back when they first opened the new facility. You couldn’t even find a parking spot, it was packed inside with all their motorcycles like a museum, and there was a long enclosed walkway with windows along the way to watch the show being filmed and the cast working on the bikes. Sad to see it sitting empty with the parking lot starting to fall in disrepair. Thanks for the memories.
Welcome
I was waiting for sr to come out of the trees and say put my brick back
Yea but than whoever would charge him and he wouldnt pay em and thatd put em in more debt
Only thing it wasn't His Brick. Sr.
Take more steroids sr. Relax
Lol
They’re in Florida now at Bert’s barracuda Harley Davidson dealership & occ roadhouse
Watch a few videos of the florida location. Looks just like the headquarters did towards the end. There hanging on there to
I remember junior saying their last fight , if I wasn't here this place would go to shit!!
Well today the bank can't seem to give it away
I used to drive by the big building everyday on my way to work until i moved in 2017 and i would pass paul sr still driving his bright yellow 06ish hummer h2. Parking lot there was always empty. Right before i moved i heard they were working on fourwheelers and small engine repairs in the back just to keep it going with like 2 employees
sad
The very first original location actually was on stone castle rd in rock tavern ny, behind the original Orange County iron works. The second shop was that building you went to first. The HQ in Newburgh was the last location 4 shops total
Wrong. This video has the correct very first shop, before the show. The 2nd and 3rd shop were in Rock Tavern at the same address, they even expanded on the 3rd shop eventually. Then eventually built the headquarters in Newburgh.
The location in the first clip is actually their 5th location as others have said it started in Sr’s basement then at the iron works then the lower shop that was built then a new shop was built above the lower shop then your first clip then newburg then Florida
Yes i was in correct on the details ive learned since posting thanks for watching
Sr should stick to welding fences, LOL !!!!
Lol
I doubt Sr. Even knew how to weld. He would just yell at someone else to do it, and he would take credit for it.
I was there a couple times, my brother only lived 10mi from there. Cool in the hay day
If the show stayed on the air, it would still be going strong. The whole custom chopper market collapsed. When your customers disappear and move on to other things, you have to shut down. Opening a business is a skill & knowing when to close a business is a skill too. They had an incredible run & made the most of it & tried to stay on even longer, in retrsopect, than they probably should have, but who knows if the market would shift back again. Great memories.
Show was canceled cause it lost its luster. So i doubt it would still be on sir today dur to it canceled. Problem was the market softened and it was less bikes and corporations comn gettn bikes built and more fake story to get through episodes. Even the very final one where they went back to where it all started to team up was bad.
The final nail in the coffin for OCC moving to Florida were the lockdowns. Florida opened up and NY stayed closed.
As soon as the financial crash hit in 2008 and suburban outlaw wannabees were no longer able to get home equity loans for 100k to buy a chopper, it was all over.
@@kennethsouthard6042 Craig’s list is littered with big old cruisers
The show was nothing more than an hour long ad for the corporation paying the bill? The bikes were gaudy and seemed mostly un-rideable any distance? The idea of form over functionality goes just so far. Gee, how many times did they powder coated threads?
O.c.c had another 2 shops before the world headquarters was built. One of them was right next to juniors old shop.
Jr. was the really creative person in the OCC enterprise. Sr. badgered him until he gave up and walked out, and then OCC started sinking. Jr. and Sr. had the legal war, and somewhere in there their staff left. Mikey was caught in the middle of it all - I felt badly for him. So much family dirty laundry was aired - sad.
Sr. didn’t have what it took to keep the place going. At the end they were building kit bikes instead of building bikes from scratch - they were using prebuilt frames, crate Harley engines, and aftermarket parts to finish them. They obviously didn’t care - the magic was gone.
It’s sad seeing what’s left and pondering what it might have been if egos had been put aside.
All that is left is Sr’s hubris.
Very well stated thanks for checking in and watching
Jr definitely took the concept of themed bikes and blew everyone away with his imagination and ideas.
Family and business are a bad combination unless it’s shared as a business venture together… unfortunately they got it wrong and we all watched it disappear
Jr does the same lol he cant even draw on a computer
On one hand it is interesting to see how things change. On the other hand I feel sad about it. It was such a cool series on TV. I was a big fan of Vin. After he leaved OCC I enjoyed Cody's work very much... So sad 😞 Thank you for this Video.
You're welcome. Thanks for checking in and I do agree. When the time the TV show came out, it was like unique, one of a kind they laid the groundwork for whatever TV is out there today. But yeah, it's a sad situation.
They were in a smaller building before the first place you filmed. It was very small... maybe like a 2-4 car garage in size.
Yes i appreciate the info ,i made a mistake i think this is the second place , thanks for watching and commenting
Sad to see, sure had a bubble and it popped. Enjoyed the show.
Thank you glad it entertained !
Looking at that building just reinforces the fact that both father and son were insane. There’s absolutely zero reason to construct something that monstrous for a company that is “cottage” at best. And the bank that made the genius decision to fund that fools endeavor should be investigated by the F.T.C.
Good point, i heard once they said in "quote" go big or go home ! I dont agree with that but they literally could have built bikes in a 1200 sq ft. Building , they wanted the retail part of it and the disney world affect to wow people
Where are all the broken office chairs that Junior and Senior threw at each other???
The show actually started in the yellow building. Back when Vinnie was totally involved.
I thought the show did start there yes others say no but maybe the actual business started elsewhere?
My former employer had ties to Orange County Choppers, so I made constant trips to all facilities. I knew that right away from the jump when I met both Senior and Junior that it would only take a short time until the OCC EVENTUALLY met its demise at least in its New York location. My former colleague worked directly for OCC. I made many trips to the OCC world center for many car shows for Mazda. Those were some great memories that I will forever remember. I’m sure some of those Mazda enthusiasts have made some comments on this exact thing. Paul Jr has a shop in New Jersey now. Not sure if he’s still operating out of New York. So as a whole. The entire OCC Company failed due to lack of leadership. That’s just my perspective. It definitely could have succeeded further in the New York location. However things happen for a reason. I know the state of Florida location has been doing very well from what I understand. I think that’s more of a cafe and restaurant with a small shop in that location. Overall a great video. Nicely done.
Thank you very much for your insight and extra detail , i know Jr. Was still here in new york on a much smaller scale as recent as last year, i didnt know he went to NJ, very interesting, the FLORIDA locale i have heard, is holding its own to a degree, nothing like the glory days of course, and i aslo have seen comments on the Mazda interest as well, so in a nut shell its been a very interesting ride for the business the fans and the local community for sure, it makes for some cool stories, memories and some good old fun !thank you for watching, commenting and especially enjoying the vid.
They built absolutely the ugliest custom bikes I’ve seen in my 50 plus years of riding motorcycles. They beat that “theme bike” concept to death which no self respecting biker would have anything to do with. Don’t get me started on the drama. Fighting like a bunch of spoiled brats.
27 Stone Castle was their first shop . Good video 👍👍
Thank you always open to find out new info .
Yea i mentioned it that rhey started in the little shop and than moved upstairs and knocked out a few walls and than from there by season 3 they moved to the factory where majority of the show took place. That was at there peak of fame and fourtune. I always said to this day they shoulda stayed right where they were. They had all that parking lot and scross street that they coulda expanded if needed
Wow, the first building looks almost exactly like a factory I worked at in Connecticut in the early 2000’s…
Im from europe Belgium and used to watch the teutuls,It realy hurts the haert to see how it all ended,such a shame....such a pain....
It's been a long time since I watched the show, but I'm pretty sure there was a second building between the "original" location and the "HQ". I remember them moving their stuff.
Very cool and interesting video thanks 👍
My pleasure glad it entertained
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I went there once in my life in 2019 my brothers friend came down and gave us a Nintendo switch with a copy of breath of the wild lol I still use that switch to this day and after that it was night and we went to Orange County choppers and played on the arcade there. I’m so sad it closed down
@GooberATmax thanks for the comment and and viewing it surely is the end of an era !
Pauli Jr’s store is in LBI.
Paul tried to go big and it backfired from the start
very good video thank you foir posting
Excellent thanks for checking in
Man, somebody’s holding the bag on that white elephant!
I remember first seeing their new building on TV and thinking: whomever from the bank that agreed to loan these guys that amount of money was a fool and wouldn’t see 10% of it back 🤣 and here we are 20 years later… I bet the loan writer is long gone by now!
Paulie was smart to get out when he did. He is actually still going pretty good i think.
So sad, my old band played there years ago the building was amazing. A bowling alley, bar full stage.
It actually started on Stone Castle road at the iron works building before they got the tv show and bought most of the parts from v twin on scobie drive 10 minutes away they grew to big too quick with egos to match
As of July 2024 the building now serves as a self service storage facility.
Cool, really enjoyed the vid!!
It will be interesting to see what happens to the building.
Thank you
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TV show or not. That building drew in a lot of tourism dollars for the area. Paul Sr even said the lockdowns were the final straw for moving operations to Florida
Agreed the town should have assisted in any way they could to maintain a flow of people to the area and with the airport across the street the flow and economy was paramount even during lock down things had to move etc.
Great video, thank you!
Your welcome glad you found it interesting
I was there in December 2nd ,2019….. I took several pictures so I could remember what it looked like. 😮
I visited the new place while on a solo road trip in 2016
The funny thing is that Paul senior's operation has ceased to exist and he was the one who expanded who got the publicity who built a calf to sell even more merchandise but Paul junior's operation is still in business and still has a clientele base just shows you that the way Paul junior Ran his business and treated his employees speaks volume to which establishment is still operating and which has filed for chapter 11
Watching the dysfunction of others is a good way to make your life feel like it’s moving along nicely lol
I loved that show
My father and I went to the HQ location back in 2012 when it was still in full swing, saw a bunch of the bikes, bought some shirts
Awesome ,
Quite a memorial to hubris unchecked....
They filmed in 5 different shops over their run
Does anyone know who brought the building and what their plans are for this building???
I was getting sick of the show about the time they were building that and I remember shaking my head because I had a feeling the craze had about run its course and that building was gonna be an albatross...
Exactly what happened
Alot of stuff from their last shop was auctioned off. Some cool stuff was sold off.
Almost looks like an abandoned mansion that will soon be overgrown and forgotten forever
Anything is possible but they are putting effort into it, to not waste the real-estate value
OCC was a reality show that kinda built “motorcycles”
You recorded your own crime...j/k
So sad ,I've watched this show from the beginning and still do in reruns.Senior sunk his own business ,even Junior said it in an episode once.The money just got to Senior's head ,I mean look at the compound & the car collection he had.All that success ,fame came and gone just like that.Guess the American dream turned into a nightmare.Good luck to all the former employees who worked there who dealt with a maniac of a boss all those years.
All true, lol the show was uniquely done, for sure at the Tim'e it was pioneering to say the least, it was also a smash living in the area while history was being made, thanks for looking and commenting
please GPS coordinates of all their offices please!!
Isn't the place still open with bowling and restaurant inside???
Nope
Every episode was a one hour commercial for the company who sponsored the bike build.
This is true and called subliminal advertising, plus the in fighting was intertwined for the people who liked drama
Also, OCC kept the bikes and the rights, for the most part.
If it wasn't for that it wouldn't have been a show
Their eyes were bigger than their stomachs. Just like with Gas Monkey. Richard was basically a car flipper with rich friends. Next thing you know he is on the TV and buying/building themed restaurants. OCC was a bunch of steel workers that did some bike assembly on the side. When Discovery came along they thought they were superstars and it would never end. Next thing you know they are building that insanity of a bike shop like there was going to be endless people with a 100 grand a pop wanting a bike with no suspension and a gas tank that holds a gallon of gas. They had to have really thought that it would stay that way for the next 30 years while they paid off the mortgage. Looks like Gas Monkey got to keep his garage. OCC you aint keeping any of it.
Nothing left but dreams.
Sad. But True 👍
And lots of debt
Paul sr is the best example of where megalomania and complete overconfidence can lead. More and more and more. it was never enough for him. The fact that his whole family fell by the wayside in the process bothered him relatively little.
but now the old man is sitting in florida and making a big deal out of it and thinks he's still the greatest
Hes delusional and that's giving him credit
Relics of a bygone era.
I didn't even know OCC went out of business i just thought The show was cancelled
Bankrupt out of business
@@radvision2631 damn makes sence though not ever company last forever
@bowlerwildcatGaming1991 yes ,partly bad management, financial planning, family issues / egos and the like all added into the demise of it all.
@@radvision2631 oh well these things happen they had a good run before it all went to crap
@@bowlerwildcatGaming1991- Paul Sr moved to Florida. Jr still has a small design shop as does Vinnie + Cody
The bowling alley was nice
The decaying process happens quickly
Your information is not correct.The building you showed as there first building was actually there second building,first shop was a small location in Rock Tavern,Ny
Fair enough
The first location you showed isn’t the original shop. The first one was in Rock Tavern, NY. Where the first Jet Bike and the 9/11 Fireman bike was built. The first place you show is where they moved to after they started to get really big.
Yes i have learned that thanks for the heads up
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Paul Sr sold the Iron Works to his other son who was running it when he started OCC.
The operating cost day to day was insane. Must be around 30 to 40 k a day when you factor in salary insurance electric and all the other things I didn't mention. But it's insane to keep a place like this going from day to day so at some point when that money stops coming in time to close the doors. This is what happens when you overgrow
Very well explained thank you
Ya just to keep the lights on had to huge.
you are probably overestimating daily operating costs but the sentiment is correct
@@mtbokor1969 well if you really think about it the cost of the insurance the payroll the taxes the energy bills the company vehicles also the insurance and the gas on them. All of the building materials that need to come in to keep production going. That 30 to 40 k might be a week more I think about it. I own a business and it's expensive to operate daily
@@ericerto8250 After I wrote my comment I realized you are probably close wiuth your numbers. Who knows how much money they borrowed to buy the land and build their building. Even with $$ flowing into the show, running a business is expensive and many times the owners overextend themselves thinking the financial success will never end
The first indication of occ going down hill was when they built the building and moved in and then had to sell it because senior needed the money
He spent so much money collecting bikes cars
Money his house
He could not afford to keep that building
It went into foreclosure then he rented it ..
Went Into foreclosure and sold it's a storage place now
Would love to have seen some badass hotrods roll out of there instead of those POS bicycles
Paul JR "If I wasn't here, this place would go to s**t."......