According to the dev's notes, the grubs are indeed more powerful than the herald, the idea was to remove the big amount of damage in a single hit and replace for a bigger amount of damage in a longer timeframe
But its way too impactful compared to something like herald or baron, which only serve as temporary empowerments. Like Zwag said, grubs buff should either fall off in the late game or be nerfed a bit. Otherwise the team with the most early game grubs has a gigantic advantage.
Grubs are great, but they definitely should fall off after 20 mins or when all tier 1s are dead. Prob after 20 mins, cause having void grubs for sieging inhib turrets and nexus turrets? Waaay too OP
Imo they arent that strong. People are just hyped and overeact cause its a new think. On 3 stacks when you start hitting a turret you can see ho many dmg it does via white number and it isnt much. When I chunk turret to half hp that passive usually do like 200hp which is nothing. Thats like 5 aa
@@adyon4047 but it is such an strong advantage early gane considering its true damage at a state in the game where turret plating is active, it can be such an early game economy boost
Yes but you aren't explaining the actual issue with old herald. In the higher ranks you would choose herald over drag since you can snowball a lane so easy with it. This caused everyone to fight over herald the second it spawned. It was a very bad design
@@wesleyimschoot7597 A lot of people (including maybe Zwag) seem to be unaware of the fact that hubris is a real word, Riot didn't make that shit up lol. It means "excessive pride or self-confidence"
The Mord support is starting to work extremely well. Support burn item, slow staff into riftmaker.... if you dont need resists grab leo burn and shadowflame or cosmic. Ive ran same build on nasus except for slow. But when you ult your melting everyone near you. I almost wonder if going 2 support items bot lane can work... maybe the no jungle comp is worth going again, or at least start in jungle for buffs and move between top and mid.
from what I understand, lethality gives flat armor pen this season.. against a team without any armor, 3 lethality items means true damage anyway, no need to build more.. I would instead buy 3 lethality items, one of em being collector, then IE and BT so the ult damage scales with the insane ad those items give, plus the crit scaling
Everytime i see you play this i keep screaming at you lol. Zwag: Oh my ult does half veigars health in damage. Me: THEN STOP SCARING HIM AWAY BY OPENING WITH IT! Fun times, GG
At roughly 5 minutes I love how after starting a channel to Teemo, Cait as an auto attacker is like I want no part of trading with a Mo. *I know the 2v1 potential* he thinks
Hubris is actually correctly pronounced like you did (húbris) with the mark pointing to the syllable that is louder. It is an Ancient Greek word. In Greek (ύβρις) Hubris means (when you do something that is above your mortal strength acting like a god and thus worthy of a god's wrath or punishment. Please like the comment so Zwag will see it!
the normal game mode feels fun to me again before it felt boring because I couldnt deal any damage, so I like the unbalanciness alot it makes the game more fun for me
collector, axiom arc, PD, infinity edge, quickblades, BT or mortal reminder. lethality and crit, with quickblades, you can double dip in crit damage bonus.
I suspect that ulting for some money other than immediately before recalling results in money loss since missing a single kill invalidates half a dozen or more of such first strike ults.
If I remember correctly they changed it to add more power to her traditional adc build since everyone was building lethality. Maybe they'll reduce it to 4 soon 😮
LDR is always better than any combination of lethality items. Late game people have around 100 base armor or more...just the LDR takes a huge chunk of that, more than 2 lethality items
omg thank you for saying this i cant stress it enough ldr is always best late since it helps lethality even more even if they got 200 armor that 35% is equal to 3 and something items of lethality+ the crit damage scaling you will shred everything like butter
"lethality Hecarim isnt good" Dantes begs to differ, just seen him destroy with lethality. Problem with Hecarim is that people dont know how to build items and runes on him.
Can you do another orianna. She was my favorite champ. I used to play season 2 but lost everything i owned. So watching your vids literally is like therapy. I love watching your videos.
the truth is this build doesn't really work from gold and above ranked. tried it in 5 different games ranked and always lost. the energized and attack speed is more versatile
The fact mid turret stood at the end of the game with over half HP that ENTIRE game is something special.
According to the dev's notes, the grubs are indeed more powerful than the herald, the idea was to remove the big amount of damage in a single hit and replace for a bigger amount of damage in a longer timeframe
But its way too impactful compared to something like herald or baron, which only serve as temporary empowerments. Like Zwag said, grubs buff should either fall off in the late game or be nerfed a bit. Otherwise the team with the most early game grubs has a gigantic advantage.
Grubs are great, but they definitely should fall off after 20 mins or when all tier 1s are dead. Prob after 20 mins, cause having void grubs for sieging inhib turrets and nexus turrets? Waaay too OP
Imo they arent that strong. People are just hyped and overeact cause its a new think. On 3 stacks when you start hitting a turret you can see ho many dmg it does via white number and it isnt much. When I chunk turret to half hp that passive usually do like 200hp which is nothing. Thats like 5 aa
@@adyon4047 but it is such an strong advantage early gane considering its true damage at a state in the game where turret plating is active, it can be such an early game economy boost
Yes but you aren't explaining the actual issue with old herald. In the higher ranks you would choose herald over drag since you can snowball a lane so easy with it. This caused everyone to fight over herald the second it spawned. It was a very bad design
8:09 Imagine TPing to lane and getting sent RIGHT BACK bro
Zwag not seeing the boneplating aura on teemo twice when he said "why does he have so much hp" 😮
I mean, it is still a boneplate, not a damn bulletproof vest 🤣
@@carvalhorosolen with lethality it is.
8:05 he just got back and already has to back xD
20:37 the irony of saying "That's really good for our hubris" 😂
I thought the exact same thing 😅
Why is that ironic? Doesn't he get more stacks for the kills? (Not sure, haven't looked into the new items)
@@wesleyimschoot7597 my man needs to hit up a dictionary
@@wesleyimschoot7597 A lot of people (including maybe Zwag) seem to be unaware of the fact that hubris is a real word, Riot didn't make that shit up lol.
It means "excessive pride or self-confidence"
@@RenaleighK Oh ok! Is it an English word? I'm Dutch so I don't think it's a word in our language :P Or does it come from Greek/Latin?
can we talk abt the graves flaming him in 9:25 for not helping when he had no mana? 💀
plus in the midgame graves was casually strolling into mid after farming his jungle and taking the mid wave just for the heck of it
That's so classic of some league players, no awareness :D
That was brutal to watch. That ending was something else.
“Did Zwag Xerath get the first 6 CS?”
Yes, he got all 6!
Win Streak: 1
I'v3 been looking forward to this
Day 210 asking for a gnar video
I support this
Cap
I support this as well
😂
Lethality gnar
21:28 zwag always chooses the worst places to base lol
" I sit out of combat for a while, then I just burst. "
Me too brotha, me too
I feel for this Teemo. He tried his best, but always late for the ults.
Good game, awesome content :)
The Mord support is starting to work extremely well. Support burn item, slow staff into riftmaker.... if you dont need resists grab leo burn and shadowflame or cosmic. Ive ran same build on nasus except for slow. But when you ult your melting everyone near you. I almost wonder if going 2 support items bot lane can work... maybe the no jungle comp is worth going again, or at least start in jungle for buffs and move between top and mid.
from what I understand, lethality gives flat armor pen this season.. against a team without any armor, 3 lethality items means true damage anyway, no need to build more.. I would instead buy 3 lethality items, one of em being collector, then IE and BT so the ult damage scales with the insane ad those items give, plus the crit scaling
Assassins get a buff
Caitlyn”looks like it’s my time to shine”
Everytime i see you play this i keep screaming at you lol.
Zwag: Oh my ult does half veigars health in damage.
Me: THEN STOP SCARING HIM AWAY BY OPENING WITH IT!
Fun times, GG
The lethality hydra… you have to try that on top, that damage is crazy. I build that on Riven yesterday, in mid game the active deal 600+ damage.
At roughly 5 minutes I love how after starting a channel to Teemo, Cait as an auto attacker is like I want no part of trading with a Mo. *I know the 2v1 potential* he thinks
3 am... ok, I still didn't want to sleep
Hubris is actually correctly pronounced like you did (húbris) with the mark pointing to the syllable that is louder. It is an Ancient Greek word. In Greek (ύβρις) Hubris means (when you do something that is above your mortal strength acting like a god and thus worthy of a god's wrath or punishment. Please like the comment so Zwag will see it!
And now I know why Zwag calls “coup de gras” “cut the grass” 😂
Hi could you show us Nekko mid in season 14? I wonder what will be the best build for her
Should call it huge-bris.
Also heh, the hubris of backing in the middle of the lane.
@33:09 - Lol that trap was awesome
the normal game mode feels fun to me again before it felt boring because I couldnt deal any damage, so I like the unbalanciness alot it makes the game more fun for me
21:36 "Welp; that's gonna hurt"
I guess Graves regrets saying that to Zwag xD
Challenge where you can only buy whole items, no components. Will probably be pretty easy but fun to see the powerspikes
Imo quickblades would be good with lethality as well for more ult and q dmg
33:05 shitting on Teemo was the highlight of that play.
zwag u need to try jhin with titanic hydra! it gives him an aa reset, so i think its currently the only way to make hin shoot faster
he already did those
Wait rt? when?
@@W3b3r365in the testing server
It's always a graves acting weird in every video I see 😂
collector, axiom arc, PD, infinity edge, quickblades, BT or mortal reminder. lethality and crit, with quickblades, you can double dip in crit damage bonus.
@3:33 Why wait for full hp like that? Leave base at 80-90% and you will be at 100% by the time you reach your lane.
you never realized zwag is just a bad / average player? check the sccounts he plays on . they are never higher ranked than silver
33:08 Warwick: U NO TOUCH WAIFU
Now imagine if Lithality Caitlin wasn't nerfed. Oh boy
We definitely don't want the horse man to come get us D:
Ggs, would love to see some Swain action with new items, have a good day 👍
Sniper cait videos are golden
The warwick looks so funny sometimes
Feier diesen Typen beste zum einschlafen
I suspect that ulting for some money other than immediately before recalling results in money loss since missing a single kill invalidates half a dozen or more of such first strike ults.
Can you do Sivir with maximum amount of shields?
Thanks for the great vid Zwag!
Zwag, you should definitely call it "Hubertus" I'd feel honored :)
you gotta try ap vaarus this season, it is unbelievable
Hubert is really doing work
Wait a minute... since when does Cait need only 5 autos to get her headshot proc?
Hasn't it always been 5 autos?
@@hyneable it got reworked from 6 to 5 some time ago, not long since it was a 6 shot passive
It was reduced from 6 to 5 in August. V13.16
Only needs 3 if you're in a bush
If I remember correctly they changed it to add more power to her traditional adc build since everyone was building lethality. Maybe they'll reduce it to 4 soon 😮
do you lads remember sniper cait mid with sanguine blade first? god i miss this stupidly op item
Pretty sure you say Hubris like the ancient Greek playwrites that often used it as a moral lesson, habedashery.
Hell yeah new Snaitlyn video (that's what this should be called now)
Second skin of the day: Safari Caitlyn.
Just call it Humid at this point 🤣
Cait videos really are your best
The Brutalizer is old school.
Whats the % for the execution on the colector? that teemo was soo low and didnt get execueted
I’ve been seeing karmas annihilating people supp and mid
Illaoi Support: Bloodsong, Dead Man's, Hullbreaker, Sterak's, Sundered Sky and Merc's.
Petition to call hubris "hubert"
i think if you get kill early you should go Hibris first cause it give you stack earlyer and after that Collector
I always gotta smile when you say Hubris wrong
Dosent quick blades give you extra crit dmg on your ult?
I'm all here for Mr. Hubrilton though
Hi how is that last hit on first kill have so long range? It wasn't head shot or was it?
The E gave him the extended range but he also headshot before the flash from veigar so it followed him
LDR is always better than any combination of lethality items.
Late game people have around 100 base armor or more...just the LDR takes a huge chunk of that, more than 2 lethality items
30% of 100 is 30. LDR is better than two lethality items vs at least 122 armor, of which it penetrates 37 against the 36 of two 18 lethality items.
omg thank you for saying this i cant stress it enough
ldr is always best late since it helps lethality even more even if they got 200 armor that 35% is equal to 3 and something items of lethality+ the crit damage scaling you will shred everything like butter
and let's not forget about the bonus damage on very high hp champions on top of everything
@@fabdvl is every lethality item 18 now? Some used to be 10
@adameves5970 there's no more 10 lethality items, the lowest you can get is 15 now
"lethality Hecarim isnt good" Dantes begs to differ, just seen him destroy with lethality. Problem with Hecarim is that people dont know how to build items and runes on him.
Atack speed TF with new items is awesome
you did indeed say hubris correctly
Can you do another orianna. She was my favorite champ. I used to play season 2 but lost everything i owned. So watching your vids literally is like therapy. I love watching your videos.
Yes I'm in a better place now
Could you play a hecarim game? Haven't seen him in ages
Recommendations go grudge it gives flat pen and percentage pen
Can you try the oneshot with blue card with twisted fate?
Hey zwag, ya outdamaged the Rest of your Team by total of 6577 gg ❤
At 18:35 you just shot your trap.
Can you please make a Qiyana video?
Wouldn't I.E be a great item in matches like this when armor-pen ain't nescessary or am i tripping?
We call hubris Hibiskus and I kinda like it
it's nice that you built _uber US_
it carries you
lethality ("please entern champ name here") is so broken!
We need a Hubris Riven game
I love your videos, thanks for what you're doing.
Try aphelios lethality crit be4 it get nerved next patch. too op
Hubris - Hyoo-briss
Excessive pride
Day one of lethality Hecarim.
Please do a sivir video for this new patch!!
KING KONG (tank WuKong)
Please make it happen 🙏🏼
start calling hubris hummus
Day 61 Attack Speed Braum 🥶🛡
Sniper cait is always a banger
the truth is this build doesn't really work from gold and above ranked. tried it in 5 different games ranked and always lost. the energized and attack speed is more versatile
sunderd sky does not work on graves, he builds it as first item...
Its the sorting hat from hogwarts.
Hubris rush is goated
AP and Lethality Varus pls
Hubris works in aram. Just wait til u see a samira with 650ad.
he missed 1 caster minion ;(
The "br" in hubris is pronounced like the letter "m"
"hYou Miss"?☠️
i saw a cait going full crit just one shot my adc with ult
Storm surge procs on cait and jinx ult btw