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Had my 2.5 diesel 5 speed manual since 2008 and its been fantastic. Absolutely love the car. Its now on 226,000 miles and still drives great. Haven't had any problems with the engine or gearbox at all.
That is good to hear. I hope it goes for many years to come. How is the handling though? Maybe it is just my driving that made the tyres screech on every corner.
Having owned a Chrysler voyager 2.5crd for almost 11 years , travelled up and down the country numerous times I love the old tub, it achieves good mpg don't feel tired or pained after hours at the wheel, it has only let me down on one occasion and that was a slightly corroded cable to the starter and I was up and running again in minutes. Agree the seats are a pain the backside to remove I just run mine as a four seater to take full advantage of the cavernous boot, which holds two huge dog crates , I can also wheel my bike straight in when I head out for cycling in the country , camp in it , use it as a van, can't think there are many vehicles out there that could do all these things better and all for an initial price tag of£1800, Admittedly I find the best way to drive it is lazily and just let it ease its way along , unlike yourself I am a diesel fan and not owned anything else for over 20 years , The old thing is starting to get tired now and not looking it's best but will keep it till it finally dies
Thanks for your comment. I realize that some people love these cars. I just can't stand it squealing the tyres on every single corner. But I probably drive too fast for the Chrysler designers. I hope you manage to keep it alive for many more years.
I don’t understand your issue with this diesel. It is one of the smoothest diesels out there. Its faster than the 3.3 v6, and it only drinks 8L/100km, which is nothing for 2.0 tones
I have absolutely no problem with the engine (other than it wasn't really designed for the car). In fact the ex-London cab I have has the same engine. It is an OK engine. The manual gearbox, lack of cruise control and handling are absolutely rubbish though. I would say that the engine and the amount of space inside are the only two good points of the car.
The trouble is you have the wrong version, of this which is a shame! I have a 2005, 2.8, automatic with stow and go seats that fold flat into the floor - and with Cruise Control - it fixes all of the issues you have with that one.. it is literally the BEST car I have ever owned, and I've owned 25 different cars so far 😅 I plan to own CGV's until I can't find them here in the UK anymore.. 😁👌
Thanks for the comment. I agree and I have mentioned that people should buy the automatic one with cruise control. However the cornering was also noisy and it rolled a bit. So hopefully yours handles better too? Or maybe I just drive too fast 😵
Time for an update on this, diesel engines are better for the enviroment now..lol Manual gearbox is better than automatic, cheaper on replacement parts like clutch plates, it sounds more like you just got hold of a badly looked after voyager with dodgy suspension, bad electrics etcs and now you want to sell it on in a similarly crappy condition. Maybe you should research how they should handle and run before you bought your junk version instead of believing it was in perfect condition and make these claims about how its such a bad car
Wow, that is some crazy views you have there. The same diesel engine (even though I hate them) was awesome in the TX4 (yes, another junk car but far far better than in every way tan this pile of rubbish) A good car will still be good even when it is old and the Chrysler Voyager will never be a good car, new or old.
Apart from you buying the voyager in bad condition, mine has the stow n go seats, no need to take seat out as they fold into the floor, I have the automatic with cruise control, also driven the manual version too, neither of the screeched around corners, all electrics work great even with them being nearly 26 years old, so sounds like you bought yours in bad condition and are complaining based on it not being fixed up and not prepared to fix it either. All cars should be looked after, otherwise they have faults and no car would be classed as good being old. And go look up what the environment stats on diesel to petrol engines, they were right to put in diesel engines, and you'll find now the uk is moving away from petrol engines more in comparison to diesel ones. And as its a MPV, they are not designed to be driven vigorously as you put it, they that's probably half your issues why the clutch cable has stretched if that's all it is, and you'll be lucky if that's all it is.
The manual in this is actually quite good. You just gotta change your bushings; it's stout, and many use them for their modified, high-power MOPARS in the U.S.
...but the handling of the car is really rubbish and the fact that I need to change the bushings really isn't a good point. Any time anyone says "this car is really good but you need to fix this part often" I don't get the confidence that the car is any good. I think this is one of those cars that I dislike and people who do like them will disagree. Just like the fact that I hate the Audi TT and Ford Focus. Both terrible cars and both are loved by others. I stand by my assessment. The Chrysler Voyager is rubbish without an Auto gearbox and cruise control.
@@DannsBangers The auto gearbox is awful. Also, bushings on a 20 year-old car? That's totally normal to have to replace. That said, some people are going to hate this thing. It IS a minivan, and it doesn't handle well at all.
@@davidtracy3058 Thanks for understanding. I would agree with you on old cars needing parts, it was very disconcerting not being able to change gear though. I have also driven other minivans and even compared to them the Chrysler sucked. Every corner I drove around the tyres screeched. Thanks for watching and I am glad you like the car even if I don't.
I wanted this car so much when i was like 19, i loved them at first sight. First one i remember i saw was the 3rd gen. I love cars and i love working on them, yet i still did my drivers licence when i was 23. I Bought my dream car BMW E60 (520i six cylinder) and it was a blast learning on it, even tho it was a money pit. So last year i sold it after almost three years of ownership and i started looking at my second dream car - voyagers, especially IV gen facelifted with 2.5CRDi. I know kinda awful lot about them so i was prepared for everything. I went to look and drive for the first time three voyagers and i went really far because i wanted to buy one, actually i drove four of them, one car salesman had two. And i was so dissapointed, as you said, the clutch and gearbox are horibble, and many of them didn't even got to gear. So if anyone wants a diesel, the only way is the 2.8 automatic. And have in mind that these cars require special care to keep then on the road. The diesels on the IV gen aren't bad if serviced, and as you mentioned the boat motor - thats sorta true but only on 3rd gens 2.5TD (they had separate heads). So i abandoned this option of having a Voyager, if everything is good there is still the goofy electronics. Weird that you haven't had cruise control, i tought that every one had it, but it's possible that UK didnt have everywhere, you guys didnt even get the Grand Voyagers with AWD. One more thing, with the IV gens, the 2.4 litre gas engine doesnt look bad on papers too, but i never driven it.
That's a great comment. Thanks for the info. Funnily enough my latest car (ex London Taxi - LTI TX4) I think has the same engine. This is according to wikipedia (so it might not be true, I will try to find out). Thanks again for posting your comment, it is great to hear from people who love cars as well. I was looking forward to owning the Voyager and I would give an automatic a go but there are so many other bangers to try first.
@@balduberdriver Thanks for your comment but I didn't think that any of the comments are "all over the place". Maybe you are having a bad day understanding people.
Hi Dann, nice to see a new episode. I can’t understand a car like that not being an automatic. Having said that being the lazy person that I am I want to exert minimal effort when driving nowadays. Using just one arm and one leg being the optimum. Actually cruise control when possible so no legs! Diesels can be good fun though.
I think we will have to disagree about the diesel part but on the rest of it I agree. I can't understand why it was a manual and the lack of cruise control is crazy. My review would have been different if it had those two options. Of course my text review will be on a Cover 45 V6, that is going to be an interesting video.
We had a 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport. We had it for 10 years. We brought it along with us during our move to Europe. It had a 3.3L V6 engine, petrol, automatic, longer wheelbase, cruise control and better steering. Better than a Volvo. I've been in shorter wheelbase European models, They can be fine but those have less room.
I’m in the America’s, the ONLY reason I bought my Jeep was because of the little 2.8 diesel it had. Definitely not the power of a cummins but definitely has more power than stock 1.9 Volkswagen diesels we have here.
firstly, you bought a car without cruis control in 2020, most of us don't accept that. Automatig gearboxes are a pain in the butt to fix if broken, mostly 3000k euros to fix and place one back. So the argument does not stnad, manual ones are cheaper. The engine is rock solid and to be hones you cannot expect enything but anyting from a 1500euros car, except it to breake down....keep up the good work, respect
I agree that auto boxes are more expensive, however the manual box broke in this car so that also wasn't good. I don't think that I could do this channel like I do outside of the UK. I realise how great it is to have cheap cars that actually are not completely broken and you can buy a car in the UK for £500 and run it for years without spending much. (I had a Mercedes C180 for 3 years like this) I like the engine on the Voyager, no problems with it. I was also very surprised that someone bought this car new (and I guess specified it) without cruise control . Thanks for your encouraging words and please keep commenting.
@@DannsBangers I also had a saab 9.3 bought it cheap and the problems kept coming,invested 1.5k in it and resold it by fears it will break again.The owner drove it for 3 years now, no issues.So a" bad car" will be the side effect of not checking it properly before buy,Appreciate your feedback
@@balduberdriver That's funny. I had a 9-3 and it also had terrible problems that I could never fix (electrical etc) but yes, buying a cheap car can cause you issues. However I know people who have spent 6-10k on cars and had many problems. At least with a very cheap car (in the UK at least) you can just get rid of it and get another one without loosing much.
Oh no, I have upset people who like rubbish cars. Did I also say something nice about a Citroën? Wow, that is very unlike me. Thanks for watching and commenting.
If you you go for a Grand Voyager than there are plenty of Autos for sale. There was also a 2.8 CRD which is also a VM Motori engine but its a bit more powerful. These cars are not great for the UK. The next gen was a much better car but its not a banger
@@DannsBangers That headrest with a hole conveniently sitting there just waiting for a child to jump on and use it for the wrong reason.... if you follow my humor.... 🤍
Im sorry but the 6 in line 3.0 diesel from bmw were one of the best engines ever produced in the world. I had one with 600.000kms never happened anything to it (model 2008)
@@DannsBangers oh no sir, the petrol equivalent was very poor in reliability. And i am a bit confused by what you are saying😂 have you ever worked on cars? Diesel engines may be loud and noisy but the sheer torque and reliability is nowhere near what the petrol engine could ever be😂
@@MrDosSantos991 Are you sure diesels have "endless acceleration" Electrics do bur diesels really don't. They redline really low and I am constantly changing gears to get the acceleration that I need from them.
Isn't that crazy in a big car that is great on motorway! One of the things I was going to try was to install cruise control in it but it broke before I could. One day I will actually do one of my projects.
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I got my grand voyager 3,3 Petrol 2005 is absolutely fine and I loved it with my family
@@lotfialgattah2280 That is good to hear. I hope you have many happy years in it.
@@lotfialgattah2280 Thanks for the comment. I am very happy that you like it. Unfortunately I didn't due to the handling and gearbox.
Had my 2.5 diesel 5 speed manual since 2008 and its been fantastic. Absolutely love the car. Its now on 226,000 miles and still drives great. Haven't had any problems with the engine or gearbox at all.
That is good to hear. I hope it goes for many years to come. How is the handling though? Maybe it is just my driving that made the tyres screech on every corner.
Having owned a Chrysler voyager 2.5crd for almost 11 years , travelled up and down the country numerous times I love the old tub, it achieves good mpg don't feel tired or pained after hours at the wheel, it has only let me down on one occasion and that was a slightly corroded cable to the starter and I was up and running again in minutes.
Agree the seats are a pain the backside to remove I just run mine as a four seater to take full advantage of the cavernous boot, which holds two huge dog crates , I can also wheel my bike straight in when I head out for cycling in the country , camp in it , use it as a van, can't think there are many vehicles out there that could do all these things better and all for an initial price tag of£1800,
Admittedly I find the best way to drive it is lazily and just let it ease its way along , unlike yourself I am a diesel fan and not owned anything else for over 20 years ,
The old thing is starting to get tired now and not looking it's best but will keep it till it finally dies
Thanks for your comment. I realize that some people love these cars. I just can't stand it squealing the tyres on every single corner. But I probably drive too fast for the Chrysler designers. I hope you manage to keep it alive for many more years.
I don’t understand your issue with this diesel. It is one of the smoothest diesels out there. Its faster than the 3.3 v6, and it only drinks 8L/100km, which is nothing for 2.0 tones
I have absolutely no problem with the engine (other than it wasn't really designed for the car). In fact the ex-London cab I have has the same engine. It is an OK engine. The manual gearbox, lack of cruise control and handling are absolutely rubbish though. I would say that the engine and the amount of space inside are the only two good points of the car.
I'm looking for a Chrysler Voyager 2.6 of 2006. The part that I need is a Clutch Master Cylinder. Kindly assist.
The trouble is you have the wrong version, of this which is a shame! I have a 2005, 2.8, automatic with stow and go seats that fold flat into the floor - and with Cruise Control - it fixes all of the issues you have with that one.. it is literally the BEST car I have ever owned, and I've owned 25 different cars so far 😅 I plan to own CGV's until I can't find them here in the UK anymore.. 😁👌
Thanks for the comment. I agree and I have mentioned that people should buy the automatic one with cruise control. However the cornering was also noisy and it rolled a bit. So hopefully yours handles better too? Or maybe I just drive too fast 😵
Time for an update on this, diesel engines are better for the enviroment now..lol Manual gearbox is better than automatic, cheaper on replacement parts like clutch plates, it sounds more like you just got hold of a badly looked after voyager with dodgy suspension, bad electrics etcs and now you want to sell it on in a similarly crappy condition. Maybe you should research how they should handle and run before you bought your junk version instead of believing it was in perfect condition and make these claims about how its such a bad car
Wow, that is some crazy views you have there. The same diesel engine (even though I hate them) was awesome in the TX4 (yes, another junk car but far far better than in every way tan this pile of rubbish) A good car will still be good even when it is old and the Chrysler Voyager will never be a good car, new or old.
Apart from you buying the voyager in bad condition, mine has the stow n go seats, no need to take seat out as they fold into the floor, I have the automatic with cruise control, also driven the manual version too, neither of the screeched around corners, all electrics work great even with them being nearly 26 years old, so sounds like you bought yours in bad condition and are complaining based on it not being fixed up and not prepared to fix it either. All cars should be looked after, otherwise they have faults and no car would be classed as good being old. And go look up what the environment stats on diesel to petrol engines, they were right to put in diesel engines, and you'll find now the uk is moving away from petrol engines more in comparison to diesel ones. And as its a MPV, they are not designed to be driven vigorously as you put it, they that's probably half your issues why the clutch cable has stretched if that's all it is, and you'll be lucky if that's all it is.
The manual in this is actually quite good. You just gotta change your bushings; it's stout, and many use them for their modified, high-power MOPARS in the U.S.
...but the handling of the car is really rubbish and the fact that I need to change the bushings really isn't a good point. Any time anyone says "this car is really good but you need to fix this part often" I don't get the confidence that the car is any good.
I think this is one of those cars that I dislike and people who do like them will disagree. Just like the fact that I hate the Audi TT and Ford Focus. Both terrible cars and both are loved by others.
I stand by my assessment. The Chrysler Voyager is rubbish without an Auto gearbox and cruise control.
@@DannsBangers The auto gearbox is awful. Also, bushings on a 20 year-old car? That's totally normal to have to replace.
That said, some people are going to hate this thing. It IS a minivan, and it doesn't handle well at all.
@@davidtracy3058 Thanks for understanding. I would agree with you on old cars needing parts, it was very disconcerting not being able to change gear though. I have also driven other minivans and even compared to them the Chrysler sucked. Every corner I drove around the tyres screeched. Thanks for watching and I am glad you like the car even if I don't.
I wanted this car so much when i was like 19, i loved them at first sight. First one i remember i saw was the 3rd gen. I love cars and i love working on them, yet i still did my drivers licence when i was 23. I Bought my dream car BMW E60 (520i six cylinder) and it was a blast learning on it, even tho it was a money pit. So last year i sold it after almost three years of ownership and i started looking at my second dream car - voyagers, especially IV gen facelifted with 2.5CRDi. I know kinda awful lot about them so i was prepared for everything. I went to look and drive for the first time three voyagers and i went really far because i wanted to buy one, actually i drove four of them, one car salesman had two. And i was so dissapointed, as you said, the clutch and gearbox are horibble, and many of them didn't even got to gear. So if anyone wants a diesel, the only way is the 2.8 automatic. And have in mind that these cars require special care to keep then on the road. The diesels on the IV gen aren't bad if serviced, and as you mentioned the boat motor - thats sorta true but only on 3rd gens 2.5TD (they had separate heads). So i abandoned this option of having a Voyager, if everything is good there is still the goofy electronics. Weird that you haven't had cruise control, i tought that every one had it, but it's possible that UK didnt have everywhere, you guys didnt even get the Grand Voyagers with AWD. One more thing, with the IV gens, the 2.4 litre gas engine doesnt look bad on papers too, but i never driven it.
That's a great comment. Thanks for the info. Funnily enough my latest car (ex London Taxi - LTI TX4) I think has the same engine. This is according to wikipedia (so it might not be true, I will try to find out). Thanks again for posting your comment, it is great to hear from people who love cars as well. I was looking forward to owning the Voyager and I would give an automatic a go but there are so many other bangers to try first.
can you write a senence down to the point? you talk alot but the explanation is all over the place.
@@balduberdriver yeah i know, english is not my first launguage and i was remembering things as i was writing it lol:)
@@TaskTesla No problem. Thanks for the information. I understood it and it is good to hear the experience that people have.
@@balduberdriver Thanks for your comment but I didn't think that any of the comments are "all over the place". Maybe you are having a bad day understanding people.
Hi Dann, nice to see a new episode. I can’t understand a car like that not being an automatic. Having said that being the lazy person that I am I want to exert minimal effort when driving nowadays. Using just one arm and one leg being the optimum. Actually cruise control when possible so no legs! Diesels can be good fun though.
I think we will have to disagree about the diesel part but on the rest of it I agree.
I can't understand why it was a manual and the lack of cruise control is crazy. My review would have been different if it had those two options. Of course my text review will be on a Cover 45 V6, that is going to be an interesting video.
We had a 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport. We had it for 10 years. We brought it along with us during our move to Europe. It had a 3.3L V6 engine, petrol, automatic, longer wheelbase, cruise control and better steering. Better than a Volvo. I've been in shorter wheelbase European models, They can be fine but those have less room.
I agree that the US models are so much better. With a big petrol engine and an automatic it would be a great car.
@@DannsBangers there are some. But many voyagers in Europe were made in Austria. Ours was made in Canada. Canadians know how to make cars.
@@bjthedjdutchdude1992 I couldn't agree more (and Aircraft, but I am a bit biased)
Isn't this the same engine you had on your London Taxi?
Yes, I think it is.
I’m in the America’s, the ONLY reason I bought my Jeep was because of the little 2.8 diesel it had. Definitely not the power of a cummins but definitely has more power than stock 1.9 Volkswagen diesels we have here.
Thanks for your comment. I liked the power from the 2.5lt Diesel in the Voyager. Good to know your Jeep has the 2.8 in it.
firstly, you bought a car without cruis control in 2020, most of us don't accept that. Automatig gearboxes are a pain in the butt to fix if broken, mostly 3000k euros to fix and place one back. So the argument does not stnad, manual ones are cheaper. The engine is rock solid and to be hones you cannot expect enything but anyting from a 1500euros car, except it to breake down....keep up the good work, respect
I agree that auto boxes are more expensive, however the manual box broke in this car so that also wasn't good.
I don't think that I could do this channel like I do outside of the UK. I realise how great it is to have cheap cars that actually are not completely broken and you can buy a car in the UK for £500 and run it for years without spending much. (I had a Mercedes C180 for 3 years like this)
I like the engine on the Voyager, no problems with it.
I was also very surprised that someone bought this car new (and I guess specified it) without cruise control .
Thanks for your encouraging words and please keep commenting.
@@DannsBangers I also had a saab 9.3 bought it cheap and the problems kept coming,invested 1.5k in it and resold it by fears it will break again.The owner drove it for 3 years now, no issues.So a" bad car" will be the side effect of not checking it properly before buy,Appreciate your feedback
@@balduberdriver That's funny. I had a 9-3 and it also had terrible problems that I could never fix (electrical etc) but yes, buying a cheap car can cause you issues. However I know people who have spent 6-10k on cars and had many problems. At least with a very cheap car (in the UK at least) you can just get rid of it and get another one without loosing much.
erhmm buddy you upset lot off chrysler people but you are right about citroen they are brilliant people carriers i love my picasso
Oh no, I have upset people who like rubbish cars. Did I also say something nice about a Citroën? Wow, that is very unlike me. Thanks for watching and commenting.
If you you go for a Grand Voyager than there are plenty of Autos for sale. There was also a 2.8 CRD which is also a VM Motori engine but its a bit more powerful. These cars are not great for the UK. The next gen was a much better car but its not a banger
I agree. Thanks for your comment
I take it your not really a Diesel Man!
Nope, I am a petrolhead through and through.
I see your model came with the emergency childrens potty
Thanks for your comment. I don't understand what you are referring to, but thanks.
@@DannsBangers That headrest with a hole conveniently sitting there just waiting for a child to jump on and use it for the wrong reason.... if you follow my humor.... 🤍
@@Eric_W OK. Now I see what you mean. Thankfully I have never had that issue so that thought hadn't crossed my mind.
Im sorry but the 6 in line 3.0 diesel from bmw were one of the best engines ever produced in the world. I had one with 600.000kms never happened anything to it (model 2008)
Are you sure that the BMW straight six petrol engine wasn't the best? No diesel engine can ever be the best engine.
Thanks fort your comment.
@@DannsBangers oh no sir, the petrol equivalent was very poor in reliability. And i am a bit confused by what you are saying😂 have you ever worked on cars? Diesel engines may be loud and noisy but the sheer torque and reliability is nowhere near what the petrol engine could ever be😂
@@MrDosSantos991 Indeed I have worked on cars and I think that Diesels are great in trucks but have no place in a car.
@@DannsBangers petrol v8/v10 and v12 are great but if it’s torque and endless accceleration you want diesel is the place to be.
@@MrDosSantos991 Are you sure diesels have "endless acceleration" Electrics do bur diesels really don't. They redline really low and I am constantly changing gears to get the acceleration that I need from them.
Didn’t Tony Blair drive one?
Apparently he did and he sold it on ebay in 2007 www.am-online.com/news/2007/5/22/-blairmobile-for-sale-on-ebay/14963/
Don't buy this. Engine was gone in 150000 miles
Good to know. On mine the gearbox failed so I think there are many failure points! Thanks for the comment
No cruise control 😱😱😱
Isn't that crazy in a big car that is great on motorway! One of the things I was going to try was to install cruise control in it but it broke before I could. One day I will actually do one of my projects.