How Much Better is Jinhsi Signature Weapon?/ Weapon Comparison/ Proved With Math. - Wuthering Waves
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I was a little sick while recording this.
Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:33 Echoes (Verdant)
02:18 Echoes (Signature)
02:35 Echoes (F2P)
03:01 Weapon Overview
03:06 Stats (Verdant)
03:37 Stats (Signature)
03:46Stats (F2P)
03:58 R.Skill 1-3 (F2P)
05:07 R.Skill 4 and ULT (F2P)
05:56 R.Skill 1-3 (Verdant)
06:23 R.Skill 4 and ULT (Verdant)
06:44 R.Skill 1-3 (Signature)
07:00 R.Skill 4 and ULT (Signature)
07:33 Summary
08:16 Outro - เกม
The guy literally saying in the video that even without her BiS her dmg is still really high, and then you come to the comment section and people are saying her weapon is a must pull... lmao
I got both standard banner and Jiyan's broadblade so definitely skipping this weapon for Jihnsi now! Thanks for the comparison
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read jiyan weapon, You got scam my brother
@@randomoofkingstuff2174 What? I got Jiyan’s weapon for himself, not a scam, not pulling for Jihnsi’s one because it’s already an ok choice for her too
Her weapon will be the only premium crit rate broadsword with only the battle pass weapon having crit rate, with crit damage being the stat that is bigger generally on a echo a crit rate broadsword is highly sort after and the passive will likely work well with her, whale bait yes, fun maybe, essential no.
all signature weapon in wuwa is must pull if you get the character tbh. because it is guaranteed. but well you do you.
Qualitative and very insight full input, especially apreciated how you made the calculation from the perspective of each weapon for the sake of better comparison. Subbed, thank you !
Thanks for the Comparison and Analysis man! I was going for her sig anyway but seeing the numbers making it actually worth the while. KEEP IT UP MY G
Thank you for your efforts man
awesome content, cant wait to see more from you
yooo keep up the good work! wuwa is great for new content creators
W content, ty for all the explanation but still I'm going to pull because the weapon looks pretty. Nonetheless I hope you keep it up King, waiting on more Wuwa content!
Can you do a breakdown on R5 bp weapon vs standard for her? Curious if the bp weapon is good enough for her or not
So im planning to get s6 Jihnsi, i think at that point I should just pull for her weapon even though I have Jiyan sig right? I'm at pity now on weapon banner and conflicted between Yinlin weapon and Jihnsi weapon but I already have battlepass weapon for Yinlin.
Appreciate it bruh bruh
That 27% hurts my soul. It just shows you how bad the standard broadblade is compared to the one handed sword xD
That 27% only aplies to normal skills, right? And only when you have the perk built up. (I'm not sure if it will have 100% uptime or not, since the conditions to activate it are not as intuitive as Jiyan's signature, for example.)
When it comes to other types of damage, the difference should be much lower.
(Keep in mind this weapon offers the same amount of "value" as Jiyan's signature, except it buffs normal skills intead of heavy attacks, of course. So... More likely than not, pulling this weapon for her should be about as impactful as getting Jiyan's signature for him, which is to say, roughly a 17% buff.)
Btw, at least according to Prydwen, the standard broadblade is actually Calcharo's BiS weapon, above even Jiyan's signature. (Of course, the broadblade's passive is a perfect fit for Calcharo, but... Even if it's not as powerful as the sword, it still offers pretty decent value if you don't have a limited 5* broadblade.)
Either way, yeah, Jinhsi's weapon looks like a much better pick than Changli's, at the very least.
Ye, for ult damage the standard and Jinshi's weapon are about the same. But, most of her damage comes from her skill, where the gaps form.
It's just, the one-handed standard sword is just so much better than the broadblade, wich I think time will prove. Probably because of how easy it is to balance crit rate with it. Changli's weapon difference with standard is about 10%, while Jinshi's might be around 25%ish.
I almost prefer an s5 battle pass broadblade above an s1 standard one.
I hope the future proves me wrong and standard broadblade is more decent on Jinshi. Im saving my 45 reward just in case.
@@joaomarcoscosta4647great points but on the prydwen part, that’s debatable since prydwen these days is widely known to not be the most reliable in games
@@quackyman796 Really? I didn't know about that. Do you know what are considered reliable sources for damage comparions on Wuwa and stuff like that?
Metro ain't the only one that can make it BOOM 🔥
hello can you also make numbers for other characters? starting from 5* would be nice
@Tyrone GS, the harvest wp second passive is only applicable to 1 skill. Since it can only be trigger once every 6s, you assumed all her skill got that passive.
You can wait the 6 seconds in between skill cast to get it back. Also you get the damage buff for 2.5 seconds.
@@Tyrone_GS her rotations usually only use 4 basic attacks once before her nuke skill with her intro and the wp passive clearly states it will consumes all the stacks after one skill cast.
Would also like to see Sequence 1 to 6 Damage Calc if you can❤
The BP broadblade is perfect for her and good enough for me. Also got standard 5 star sword for Changli so I'm set on weapons for a while.
If u have JiYan's weapon, i think it's a great sub especially in the looks department as well lol
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how do you think, how much bp weapon on const worse standart 5*?
nice calculation, i was thinking pulling for one sword or broadblade to use with calcharo or rover. but.
but what?
@@Thatblackidlmaaaoooo they left ya hanging
0:34 dont farm for mourning aix. trust me. we will get a new spectro echo calamity type.
probably Jue
Yeah Jue is gonna be the one to farm for her and spectro rover.
Expected characters weapons damage increaae to be huge just by knowing weapon banner is guarantee.
The sales tactic is to make the difference in weapons drastic to make people swipe to not miss out on damage.
Now hope the game won't scale based on BiS weapon like HI3 and PGR do. Hope for its closer to a genshin approach.
Pulling her sig for the aesthetic 😎
So should I pull signature weapon or the standart one? sorry, english is not my first language
Depends on your budget, if your a low spender and don't have any broadblade on your acc, go for her sig. This way you can take the standard katana( a way better weapon) from your selector.
Hello, do we have news about which 4* weapons are available with Jinzhi's and Changli's weapon banners?
Not until the official banners get announced.
so having jiyan's weapon means that hear weapon is not worth it for me?
if that's the case it's great. i can save for more characters.
I would not say it's worth it. I am in the same boat as you.
Hello, have you made the calc with Jiyan signature weapon vs Standard? Would like to know if the diference is like 17%, like Pyrdwen says or it's bigger.
I have. In the video I show the calculations and it comes out to be 17.1% better than the standard.
@@Tyrone_GS Oh, I meant both broadblades for Jiyan, not for Jihnsi, sorry.
@@uit17 I have not done any testing for jiyan....yet.
What would be your recommendation on who. to pick between the two characters in 1.1? considering I have Jiyon and his weapon.
you are in a position where you can pull for whoever you like the look of more. if you take jhinsi you have her second best weapon. if you take changli you can take the F2P katana from the selector at level 45
@@Tyrone_GS thanks for replying. Im more of a person who’s looking for a power stats rather than looks. You know, they will try to make a incredible looking characters all the time:))
Planning to go s1 to s3 (depends on luck) and then her sig weapon.
how about jihnsi's on jiyan?
She not do any heavy attack damage at all?
Isn´t her weap supposed to have crit rate as main stat? or at least i have seen that in a lot of databases, i´m confused now haha
changes in beta
edit: maybe localization issue too
Her incarnation has 5 seconds where her basic atk changes to heavy atk. Wouldn't jiyans weapon bridge the gap a little bit
she will do only 1 heavy attack in a good rotation. i don't think she will ever heavy attack unless forced.
@@Tyrone_GS what do you think she will do then ? you wanna swap out of the character you have setup for ? i'm asking genuinely. if you play her Sub-dps you're prolly not even using the big skill every time you swap on her because you'll have no incandescence stack. she prolly ask too much field uptime if you go big skill everytime, with tiny stack everytime. on Sub-dps jinhsi it's prolly just a loop of Ult - Big skill - ult - big skill etc for each time you swap on her. and when you play main-dps jinhsi you have to stay, you setup-ed everything for her
@@phantr2530 Your other units will build Incandensence stacks for you through Eras in Unity. Build stacks, enter Incarnation through Jinhsi intro, do the Incarnation rotation, swap out your primary buffer using Unison, repeat the Incarnation rotation. That's how Jinhsi dmg cycle will go
@@Nezxmi What you don't understand is than if you don't play coordinate attacker, your other char will take AGES to stack incandescence stack, and even with coordinate attacker you want to stall in incarnation till 40 incandescence by procing the coordinate.
It's just math really simmmple math (i know it's cringe but for real) even with buffed eras in unity it's 1s for 1 stack. so if you take his team if we assume after he swap out on jinhsi he first go on verina to cast Ultimate, this way he can go on Taoqi and still proc Spectro damage, then the moment we go on taoqi let's say we have already 8 stack thanks to jué and some verina proc. Now you have Taoqi where every single of her hit will give 2 stack considering it will be both havoc and spectro. Considering incarnation state last 10s i would assume you only win 10 stack with the jinhsi rotation ( you prolly don't do 10 proc during the 10s of the incarnation but because you're not instantly coming in with incarnation but with intro and have to do skill it's prolly around 10-11 stack with jinhsi herself) that mean you have to do 11 Attack of taoqi that proc eras in unity to reach 40 stack (22 + 18 = 40 !) but considering the time lost at dodging, running after mob etc, you'll prolly not take 11s to do 11 proc of eras in unity ! but more like.. 14-16s mhm ! but Oh no here comes another problem ! now your taoqi have took too much time on field and because of verina ult taking 2,5s itself your Jinhsi will not be in outro buffed Eras in unity state but only in normal eras in unity ! drastically reducing her stacking with her own rotation to only 5 stack. so now you're at 35 stack with a taoqi that lasted 15s on field. and The host of this channel suggest than you don't do heavy attack during incarnation ? and therefore cutting her incarnation state even faster ? what is the goal ? having 30 stack with a 8s upfield time of jinhsi and 20s upfield time of other character per rotation ?
@@phantr2530 Ofc a coordinated attacker will be easiest but it's not just "really simmmple math", you're already not accounting for other variables. Lingering Outro skills, echos dealing different dmg types, constant swapping, Echoes with DoT like effects, you can easily increase the rate at which you gain stacks beyond a simple 1 per sec.
I wish you threw the BP weapon in here
Good that I have jiyan an his weapon
Hey can you do one for yinlin please? I am divided between getting it or jhinsi's weapon
Yinlin weapon can be used by encore. Jhinsis can be used with jiyan her and kakarot
@@Sanatic14ye but how much is the dmg boost
I’m going all in on her and her weapon☺️
Your gonna be hitting like a dinosaur with her
@@Tyrone_GS wait a second when I said go all in I meant I’m getting S0 and R0😅
@@WI-FI_GOD if you got her s6 it would be planetary devastation. S0 with sig is still overwhelmly strong. Good luck on your pulls 👍
What about Calcharo, does het get any big dmg boost with her weapon?
i dont think so, its just a stat stick, if ur unlucky with echoes not having enough crits but high in atk and crt dmg its good option but not reco.
So is standard weapon good for her or i have to pull on her signature weapon?
Sig is a must pull
I already have a standard weapon on my calcharo so should I pull on weapon or save for other characters
@@Tam-lv1mpIt's really not 7:44
@@mayankrathore938that’s something you need to decide for yourself based upon what you want from the game and ur characters. This video shows you the information on the stat comparison so keep that info in mind
@@mayankrathore938if you won't use jinshi and calcharo in the same team, then it isn't a must
I'm really confused, maybe I missed something but Jiyans weapon has a WHOPPING 48% CRD, so how come Jinshi's build Also has the same CRD ?
they both give the same Crit value. The 24.3 Crit rate is the exact same crit value as 48.6. you can get crit value by taking (1 Crit Rate = 2 CV) or crit damage ( 1 Crit Dmg = 1CV)
@@Tyrone_GS i suppose this is one way of looking at it. At the end of the day it looks like an analogy to me at best. I do think that CRate is more important in this game however just because of the sheer amount of hits some chars do like Jiyan f.e.
Will this broadsword be good for Calcharo?
i don't see it to be that much different to Jiyan sig weap.
is this weapon usable for jiyan couldnt get jiyan's one
jihnsi signature weapon for calcharo
I'm probably being a dumby here, but how is Jiyan's weapon page saying the CV is 90% from 28.5 CR and 57% CD? Jihnsi's weapon page adds up to the 90% correctly for me. Suspect i'm probably just misunderstand how you're presenting the information though!
The 90cv is from the Ecohes only(not including the 22% from 4 cost) I took that 90% basically split it in half and gave half of it to C.dmg and half to C.Rate.
@@Tyrone_GS Hey thanks for coming back. On the Jiyan slide though the values in brackets would give a total of 104% CV right? The Jinhsi one seems correct though.
@@thejamez10000 Wow you have got some very keen eyes. you are correct the C.Dmg is supposed to be 33 and not 57.
@@Tyrone_GS Gotcha thanks for confirming! I don't think it messed with any of your calcs obviously, I was just confused when trying to run through it myself.
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27% worse then Standard is Really Huge. For comparison Jiyan sig vs standard is around 17-20%. But like the CC on this video say, you dont need it to clear content
Yeah because her skill can be casted multiple times and her signature skill dmg boost is tripled by value because of that
its only on her skill tho, it should be around 17-20% better than standart overall
Is Jinshi's weapon good for Calcharo compared to Jiyan's weapon?
slightly better cause calcharo uses skill more than heavy attack
@@Tyrone_GS I missed Jiyan's weapon cz I pulled for Yinlin weapon. So I was not sure I should wait for the rerun (Jiyan) or Jinshi's weapon. I'm f2p btw.
Thanks for replying 🙏
Fuck sign Helios cleaver go brrrr😂
If you had to pick 1 would you pick yinlin weapon or jihnsi weapon ?
jihnsi . Just my vote though
@@sfarmertoo well I was planning to get yinlin weapon and as per leaks jihnsi weapon gives lower crit rate Stat than yinlin weapon well its definitely hard to choose
@@hhdocmhan4940 it , for me , kinda comes down to : " which weapon do i think i will have more characters who can share it later on" . I prefer sword / broadblade users to rectifiers as a rule, so the liklihood is that weapon would eventually be more useful for me
that said, I also REALLY like Yinlin and dont see myself NOT using her , ever really so hers is a great pick as well. Youre right , tough choice
Yinlin because it's great for Encore. She can use every part of that weapon to some degree.
Is she a MUST pull ? I have Jiyan weapon
She is just another Dps. There will be plenty in the future. The only "must pulls" I would say are the supports
Good info and good video but you should add music or something in the background cuz ur voice is hella boring and monotone no offence
I'm gonna pull weapon, otherwise I don't wanna ruin her massive dps feel with my neglectful wish saving
You must really love her kit😂
her damage is so nasty! when she drops I'm pulling s6 and copy of her weapon, I cant wait to showcase what my little dragon ball can do 🐉
if her s6 is worded correctly, you can expect to do an additional 3500% more damage on resonance skill 4 btw
@@Tyrone_GS man she's gonna obliterate everything 😭😭 I'm probably going to try to run spectro MC in Taoqi's spot assuming we can get the last two to make her s6 for the spectro res shred. Also being able to spam time stop outro with jinhsi as well as her s4 giving the team a heal means she should be a worthy support for the dragon queen
@@RudeXII bro is cookin with +25 Fusion%
@@jangw Ages of Harvest gives +25% for all elements
is this weapon usable for jiyan
It is but his signature is way better for him
@@mariandumitru4469 how 'way' better?
@@sarthakyadava hmm maybe because it was made specifically for his kit and synergies perfectly with his ult that is most of his dmg
@@mariandumitru4469 indeed but it's not 'wayy' better tbh
Lustrous Razor exist for more of a support claymore characters (wich dont exit right now -- no taqui scales with def).
Ages of Harvest is good on her, but it has a downside as you wont be able to use the switch in and switch out mehanic that much as it will lose damage.
Verdant Summit will work pretty well with her, but you will have to put 2 heavy attacks in rotation after she does a burst to max damage. However you will be only able to use 1 stack if you just burst in. Instead you have to get energy on another character so you can trigger intro skill on her + burst after to get 2 stacks of a buff.
Or you can just use it as stat stick.
wrong lmao lustrous razor is bis for main dps like calcharo