That was actually one of the satirical elements that doesn't translate as well. The whole Stretch/Leatherface thing was meant to be a goof on the John Hughes trope of the "popular" girl falling for the guy from the "wrong side of the tracks" ( think Molly Ringwald and Judd Nelson in Breakfast Club. That was the intent anyway but it doesn't quite work (doesn't help most don't care about John Hughes movies anymore. Certainly not horror fans anyway)
@@brandonhendrix7223 CHAINSAW 2 was rushed so fast through shooting and post production that it's a miracle it makes any sense at all. It had to open in theatres on August 22nd (the theaters were promised a year in advance) and they didn't start shooting until the first week of May! That's a ridiculously short amount of time to shoot and finish a film. I'm sure if Tobe had more time he would have gotten those satirical elements across, like how he said he wanted to make a "anti Yuppie" statement but the only Yuppies are the first two guys in the car. Tom Savini has also complained that the editor ruined some of the death scenes through sloppy cutting and they had to drop the scene where the Family kills all the football players in the garage because Tobe was so pressed for time he had an assistant direct that scene and Cannon hated it. It's hard to tell from the workprint but that scene does look kind of amateurish compared to the rest of the film.
I watched this movie yesterday, and my god I loved it so much. I could tell the people who worked on it loved what they did and put so much effort in it. I have so much respect for all these people.
Lou Perryman, the actor who played Stretch's radio partner was actually brutally murdered with an axe. That's crazy. Poor guy was tortured, skinned and murdered in the movie only to be butchered for real.
That’s so messed up. The man who murdered him did so because he was off his meds, as a hospital even turned him away when his family tried to get him back on his meds. To think if the hospital had acted appropriately - maybe Perryman would have lived.
This movie is absolute GENIUS!!!! So damn funny!! Chop Top and The cook had the best lines!!! I’ve seen it 100 times it seems and I still laugh like it’s the first time watching it!!
Production designers are the unsung heroes of most movies while everyone celebrates the actors, celebrates the film score, no one ever really stops to think about who designed the areas at which the movie was filmed or who picked said spots or neighborhoods for filming
R.I.P. Tobe Hooper, my fourth favorite director after Robert Zemeckis, Joe Johnston, and Jeff Burr:( Wow, HOW long ago was it that I rented this one to see every movie in the series up to the present?! SOMEwhere between 2003 and 2005...Netflix 3-DVDs-at-a-time...haven't watched it SINCE! They got to live in an abandoned amusement park...I WANT TO DO THAT, especially with all of the articles and videos of people exploring them all over the place:) Stretch totally became a blackjack dealer in Vegas, changed her name to Loretta, put on a little weight, and got blown up through 'Leprechaun body enlargement surgery' after getting her wish to be beautiful! But first in Stepfather II she totally figured out he was living under a fake identity:) I wish they would play this one on SyFy, everything else in the franchise except the first one has been on it! Or Comet, actually, even better!
I am 30, so I didn’t grow up when this was new, but when I was in high school, these movies are pretty much all I watched. So I definitely have an appreciation for this kind of thing. And I have a question. How the hell did they ever determine that lefty is stretches illegitimate father? I never caught onto that at all in the movie. I’m lost.
If it weren't for this movie, 'TCM2', Rob Zombie would have never had anything to plagiarize. Altho he did a tighter job directing 'House...' & 'Rejects', and perfectly used Bill Mosely's talent.
Filming began in May 1986, approximately 35 years ago. R.I.P. Lou Perryman, Perryman was killed in his home in Austin, Texas on April 1, 2009 by a 26-year-old man named Seth Christopher Tatum.
I love this screenwriter. I love how he discusses it like one of his creative children, delving into their unique personality, and all the way strategic elements you thought were just absurd last minute improvisations. I respect this movie more now with a little context.
Strangely enough, i think Grandpa creeped me out the most. Choptop's picking around his headplate scab didn't freak me out... hell, who hasn't picked a scab... and maybe put a tongue to the wound? But then I think of Grandpa who goes from catatonic to lustfully excited at the possibility of bashing in the head of a pretty gal... and eating her. Ugh.
You know when I first saw this movie about 20 yrs ago I remember being very disappointed in it. But over the years I grew to appreciate the dark humor, the chop top character, the over the topness of it. I get it now
How could I forget those legs and asset's on Caroline. Siedow was great, Johnson has grown on me as leatherface, Lou was good. Dennis was a little over the top for me but he nailed it
This is one of the rare films I did not particularly enjoy watching but it still fascinates me to the point where I watch a 1h doc about its production 😜
I love this movie it was very funny, and a good movie to watch. The music they chose to put in the movie is amazing. The minute i was listening to the music while watching the movie i immediately start searching up the song names. And when i found the songs i was so happy. The characters in this movie were good my favorites were L jean, strecth, choptop, and leatherface. I was not expecting that leatherface would have some type of crush on stretch. Which i like thatbthey did that it adds a good touch to the movie and to the horror movie franchise. This movies never gets boring for me and it will always make me happy
It will always be a crying shame that they never did a real sequel to the original in the later 70s or early 80s. Who didn't wanna know what happened to Leatherface after that insane masterpiece??
@@breal1183 This is a sequel to the original. It's not a reboot or anything, this is literally supposed to be the same family from the original film. Hooper said that he always planned it to be a comedy; he might have had a different story idea in the late 70's but it was still going to be in the tone of this film. He never wanted to do a sequel that was like the original film. I think the idea in the 70's was called "Beyond The Valley Of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and he said he might have even made it a musical!
I introduced this movie to my parents not too long ago. Luckily, they laughed when they were supposed to, but it didn't disturb them like the first movie did. My mother described TCM 2 as "pure adrenaline," and my father said he needed to sleep.
First time I saw this I thought it was complete garbage and I wanted it to END! Then a few years later I watched it again and I was blown away. Because I watched it without expecting a continuation of part 1. This is its own movie and now MY FAVORITE of the two originals! This movie is insane, silly, gory, fun, and ICONIC!! And Bill Mosley is a national treasure!!!!!
Bob Elmores credit was stolen for this film he literally done all of leather face throughout the entire film. Deserves more recognition. Bill Johnson wasn’t even in the chainsaw scene he literally done like 4 shots.
Kinda weird to hear them talk about how professional and determined Dennis Hopper was in the part, yet he would go onto say this was one of the worst movies he’d ever done.
One of the best things you can do for a truly original sequel is deconstruct, even make fun of, the original. TCM2 is brilliant in its own way, I think, and it’s quite similar to another of my favourite horror movies, ‘House of 1000 Corpses’.
back to say something else. Last night began watching Lou Perryman in "the whole shootin match" . It's because of this movie I am a fan of Lou Perryman darlin'.
One of the greatest films ever made i have seen this well over one hundred times and I'm going to watch it one hundred more before i pass on. Everything about this show is great i own it i love this retrospective i watch it frequently as well. I'm not sure but i think bill mosley as chop top is one of the greatest most quotable characters is the history of movies. Chainsaw fan for life
I developed an immediate crush on "Stretch" (Caroline Williams) when I first saw the movie in a Tempe, AZ. theater in 1986. I still think she looks great.
This movie certainly didn't seem like a comedy, it felt like a twisted expedition into murderous lunacy and that's why it's so appealing to me. It's a thrill ride with a ton of gratuitous gory payoffs. It's intriguing from beginning to climax and doesn't let up, you are always uneasy and edge of your seat. The rich, lush film stock is so vibrant, you can smell the environs; I smell the cuminy chile, brown sugar BBQ. The film is drenched in this strawberry incense smell that the video store had. It is movie magic
i actually remember seeing this the day after i watched the first one, as usual i was commenting the film with my two bestfriends, like i did with the first the day before and we decided to give leatherface the nickname idol (please dont ask 🤐) im just saying this because i didnt really have the best relationship with my best friends anymore , but this film somehow fixed it , they got interested in the film and we rewatched it together. I know its silly because look at the film im talking about but it worked really well! The only problem its that now everything is connected to chop top . nobody really needed to "hear" this i just wanted to finally say it .
I understand the hate this movie gets in relation to the original. I really, really enjoy the original but this movie really, really has stuck with me for years from watching it as a kid to now. Chop Top is great and the surrealism of this movie is more disturbing than the original, in my opinion. To each their own but to say this movie is horrible is kind of harsh.
My favourite scene was the opening. Those two boys were hilarious lol. But overall, this film really was not that great in my opinion. The first one was an absolute masterpiece.
Anyone who is watching this, or is a hardcore Horror fan like me (since 1982) is cool in my book....
Since 1974
Haha 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
I'm 35 horror fan since 10 ha
its my fav horror movie of all time
Moseley.. a freakin genius
I considered this movie to be a forbidden love story between Stretch and Leatherface.
Gone with the saw !
How lol
That was actually one of the satirical elements that doesn't translate as well. The whole Stretch/Leatherface thing was meant to be a goof on the John Hughes trope of the "popular" girl falling for the guy from the "wrong side of the tracks" ( think Molly Ringwald and Judd Nelson in Breakfast Club. That was the intent anyway but it doesn't quite work (doesn't help most don't care about John Hughes movies anymore. Certainly not horror fans anyway)
LG***
@@brandonhendrix7223 CHAINSAW 2 was rushed so fast through shooting and post production that it's a miracle it makes any sense at all. It had to open in theatres on August 22nd (the theaters were promised a year in advance) and they didn't start shooting until the first week of May! That's a ridiculously short amount of time to shoot and finish a film. I'm sure if Tobe had more time he would have gotten those satirical elements across, like how he said he wanted to make a "anti Yuppie" statement but the only Yuppies are the first two guys in the car. Tom Savini has also complained that the editor ruined some of the death scenes through sloppy cutting and they had to drop the scene where the Family kills all the football players in the garage because Tobe was so pressed for time he had an assistant direct that scene and Cannon hated it. It's hard to tell from the workprint but that scene does look kind of amateurish compared to the rest of the film.
So.....Stretch, being Lefty's daughter, would make her cousins of Sally and Franklin? 😳 Whoa
I watched this movie yesterday, and my god I loved it so much. I could tell the people who worked on it loved what they did and put so much effort in it. I have so much respect for all these people.
Oh for sure i almost like part2 better then the original
The man who played Leatherface is extremely handsome out of that mask! 😍
Oh Yes cute and hot men
I like him better in the mask🥴
Was it Bob Elmore ?
@@jeremyelmore4079 bill johnson played leatherface in tcm2!
@@inezfeytons1764 agreed he is hot!! I'd let him tie me up and keep me no argument out of me 🤣🤣🤣
the soundtrack is one of the best, wish people talked about it more
Listen to the commentary during the film, with Savini, Mosley, Williams, and another guy as moderator, it made the film 100x more entertaining!
Lou Perryman, the actor who played Stretch's radio partner was actually brutally murdered with an axe. That's crazy. Poor guy was tortured, skinned and murdered in the movie only to be butchered for real.
I guess at least they didn't rip his face off and have his crush insult him in real life...
I just read about this and I am deeply shocked! I loved him in this movie, especially the “little fry house” part.
That’s so messed up. The man who murdered him did so because he was off his meds, as a hospital even turned him away when his family tried to get him back on his meds. To think if the hospital had acted appropriately - maybe Perryman would have lived.
This movie is absolute GENIUS!!!! So damn funny!! Chop Top and The cook had the best lines!!! I’ve seen it 100 times it seems and I still laugh like it’s the first time watching it!!
goddamn property taxes fuck up everything small businessman gets it in the ass everytime
one of my all-time childhood classics first watched on HBO staying home from school "sick"lmao
Production designers are the unsung heroes of most movies while everyone celebrates the actors, celebrates the film score, no one ever really stops to think about who designed the areas at which the movie was filmed or who picked said spots or neighborhoods for filming
R.I.P. Tobe Hooper, my fourth favorite director after Robert Zemeckis, Joe Johnston, and Jeff Burr:( Wow, HOW long ago was it that I rented this one to see every movie in the series up to the present?! SOMEwhere between 2003 and 2005...Netflix 3-DVDs-at-a-time...haven't watched it SINCE! They got to live in an abandoned amusement park...I WANT TO DO THAT, especially with all of the articles and videos of people exploring them all over the place:) Stretch totally became a blackjack dealer in Vegas, changed her name to Loretta, put on a little weight, and got blown up through 'Leprechaun body enlargement surgery' after getting her wish to be beautiful! But first in Stepfather II she totally figured out he was living under a fake identity:) I wish they would play this one on SyFy, everything else in the franchise except the first one has been on it! Or Comet, actually, even better!
I am 30, so I didn’t grow up when this was new, but when I was in high school, these movies are pretty much all I watched. So I definitely have an appreciation for this kind of thing. And I have a question. How the hell did they ever determine that lefty is stretches illegitimate father? I never caught onto that at all in the movie. I’m lost.
They mentioned that a lot of dialogue was cut so it doesn't make sense now.
If it weren't for this movie, 'TCM2', Rob Zombie would have never had anything to plagiarize. Altho he did a tighter job directing 'House...' & 'Rejects', and perfectly used Bill Mosely's talent.
Agreed!!!!
Wild movie. A lot of fun. LG's final scene is pretty hardcore.
for real. especially considering how he died in real life
Filming began in May 1986, approximately 35 years ago. R.I.P. Lou Perryman, Perryman was killed in his home in Austin, Texas on April 1, 2009 by a 26-year-old man named Seth Christopher Tatum.
I didn't know that. I met him once. Very nice
Best second iteration in a horror series, purely just because of the fact that it doesn't try to copy the style of the first.
I love this screenwriter. I love how he discusses it like one of his creative children, delving into their unique personality, and all the way strategic elements you thought were just absurd last minute improvisations. I respect this movie more now with a little context.
he was great, did so much great work
I'm a huge fan of the Chainsaw Massacre fan base this one is so good
Strangely enough, i think Grandpa creeped me out the most. Choptop's picking around his headplate scab didn't freak me out... hell, who hasn't picked a scab... and maybe put a tongue to the wound? But then I think of Grandpa who goes from catatonic to lustfully excited at the possibility of bashing in the head of a pretty gal... and eating her. Ugh.
Sadly Lou Perryman who played LG was murdered in 2009. They caught the guy and he got life in prison
By a crazy guy with an Axe nonetheless.
Crazy to find out that stretch is lefty’s daughter
Look what your brother did to the door is best line in ANY horror movie. Cant wait for the game!
thank you for this!
Bill Johnson had like two scenes in the entire film . Bob Elmore was Leatherface in almost every scene and did all the stunts and chase scenes
Don’t forget Tom morga he was leatherface for the bridge yuppie scene
@@tfergg3999 who gives a shit ...
@@universaltalentbookings1389 tom Morga played Leatherface to
The Texas Chainsaw masscare Part 2 was the best in the series
Texas 2 was my favorite of the whole block of movies and it was done on a shoe string budget with rolling revisions. Guess it was meant to be.
Happy 37th Anniversary, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. My first TCM movie I had ever seen as a kid in the 90s.🤘⛓📼
CHAINSAW 2 was thrown together so quickly to make it's release date that its a miracle it came out as good as it did.
You know when I first saw this movie about 20 yrs ago I remember being very disappointed in it. But over the years I grew to appreciate the dark humor, the chop top character, the over the topness of it. I get it now
How could I forget those legs and asset's on Caroline. Siedow was great, Johnson has grown on me as leatherface, Lou was good. Dennis was a little over the top for me but he nailed it
This is one of the rare films I did not particularly enjoy watching but it still fascinates me to the point where I watch a 1h doc about its production 😜
I love this movie it was very funny, and a good movie to watch. The music they chose to put in the movie is amazing. The minute i was listening to the music while watching the movie i immediately start searching up the song names. And when i found the songs i was so happy. The characters in this movie were good my favorites were L jean, strecth, choptop, and leatherface. I was not expecting that leatherface would have some type of crush on stretch. Which i like thatbthey did that it adds a good touch to the movie and to the horror movie franchise. This movies never gets boring for me and it will always make me happy
It will always be a crying shame that they never did a real sequel to the original in the later 70s or early 80s. Who didn't wanna know what happened to Leatherface after that insane masterpiece??
This film was made in the mid 80s.
@@zippymufo9765 Yeah i know, i meant early 80s, because the first 8 years Tobe was trying to do a sequel to the original story.
@@breal1183 This is a sequel to the original. It's not a reboot or anything, this is literally supposed to be the same family from the original film. Hooper said that he always planned it to be a comedy; he might have had a different story idea in the late 70's but it was still going to be in the tone of this film. He never wanted to do a sequel that was like the original film. I think the idea in the 70's was called "Beyond The Valley Of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and he said he might have even made it a musical!
Might have settled down with kids.
Better love story than Twilight
This movie means so much to me. More than any other movie. Except maybe Return of the Living Dead
The underground set was amazing. Dog will hunt!
How am I just now seeing this?!!!!!!
I introduced this movie to my parents not too long ago. Luckily, they laughed when they were supposed to, but it didn't disturb them like the first movie did. My mother described TCM 2 as "pure adrenaline," and my father said he needed to sleep.
44:00 Leatherface and martial arts? What a weird combination * goes back to playing Mortal Kombat X*
First time I saw this I thought it was complete garbage and I wanted it to END! Then a few years later I watched it again and I was blown away. Because I watched it without expecting a continuation of part 1. This is its own movie and now MY FAVORITE of the two originals! This movie is insane, silly, gory, fun, and ICONIC!! And Bill Mosley is a national treasure!!!!!
Who that some new Health food bunch 😂😂
Bob Elmores credit was stolen for this film he literally done all of leather face throughout the entire film. Deserves more recognition. Bill Johnson wasn’t even in the chainsaw scene he literally done like 4 shots.
This was a very good sequel. It is for sure a dark comedy (hence the poster and Breakfast Club parody) but also a very disturbing horror slasher too.
Yes yes yes , good making of . Waw . Thanks
Kinda weird to hear them talk about how professional and determined Dennis Hopper was in the part, yet he would go onto say this was one of the worst movies he’d ever done.
@linken23 a mí se me hace que mintieron jaja
It’s my favorite out of all of them idc
46:05 anyone else seeing peter steele from ton there?
One of my favorite movies of all time. I go back to my childhood every time I see it. Bubba you Bit(h,
One of the best things you can do for a truly original sequel is deconstruct, even make fun of, the original. TCM2 is brilliant in its own way, I think, and it’s quite similar to another of my favourite horror movies, ‘House of 1000 Corpses’.
For me the best episode !
bill moseley rules
We're taking a million out of your budget.
What the shit
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What is the song at 13:20? This is pure awesome and makes the Sawyers and the Fireflys seem like good ole boys!! We love u guys!!
Ricky Wayne Sprague - Forever Trapped in the Blues
back to say something else. Last night began watching Lou Perryman in "the whole shootin match" . It's because of this movie I am a fan of Lou Perryman darlin'.
One of the greatest films ever made i have seen this well over one hundred times and I'm going to watch it one hundred more before i pass on. Everything about this show is great i own it i love this retrospective i watch it frequently as well. I'm not sure but i think bill mosley as chop top is one of the greatest most quotable characters is the history of movies. Chainsaw fan for life
They all gave 100% and brought their own unique takes.
I didn't get to see the 1st one only the second one and I seen it a billion times it never scared me much as a kid except evil dead
A family favorite.
I developed an immediate crush on "Stretch" (Caroline Williams) when I first saw the movie in a Tempe, AZ. theater in 1986. I still think she looks great.
I loved Bill Mosley who played Chop Top
The makeup guy , wasn’t he in dusk till dawn bar scene? The crotch revolver dude?
I love this film , top 3 horror films of all time for me. Poor LG murdered for his car, that sucks , he seemed like a really nice guy
I remember when the first texas chainsaw massacre came out
Great sequel.
The mask design for leatherface was so goofy in this
There’s a lot of inside Texas cultural references in this film.
Chop top was the best
Lou,, :(
poor guy
I saw LG, he had a small part in poltergeist as " bluto" a construction worker hory greaser gross.i didn't recognize him with his face on.
They could have made it scarier (it was not) but like most sequels it becomes slapstick and in the category of slapstick this is a masterpiece!
best weirdo movie
This movie certainly didn't seem like a comedy, it felt like a twisted expedition into murderous lunacy and that's why it's so appealing to me. It's a thrill ride with a ton of gratuitous gory payoffs. It's intriguing from beginning to climax and doesn't let up, you are always uneasy and edge of your seat.
The rich, lush film stock is so vibrant, you can smell the environs; I smell the cuminy chile, brown sugar BBQ.
The film is drenched in this strawberry incense smell that the video store had. It is movie magic
why is this movie so hard to find? i cant even find a cheap used copy on dvd
I got damn lucky. I found it in a five dollar bargain bin at Walmart in 2007. I actually saw this one before I saw the first one.
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First two are on Tubi Tv for free
I found it on DVD at a FYE for $3 a few years ago. Guess it's the luck of the draw, hope you can find (or found) a copy of it
@@CaseyScoffieldWOW same
🎵deep in the heart of texas 🎵 gene autry
Stretch was ready to let him get that if he let her go
I read somewhere dennis said this was his worst movie he hated it lol
From Paris, Texas to this!? Pretty odd I must say, not in a bad way, just... odd
definitely lol
I don't remember this actually I don't think I've ever seen this TBH
Stretch sounds and even resembles Demi Moore
Ufo shows up in this film
Awesome movie. Madly underrated although Hopper was terrible. If you remove dennis hoppers scenes with the chainsaw its even better.
i actually remember seeing this the day after i watched the first one, as usual i was commenting the film with my two bestfriends, like i did with the first the day before and we decided to give leatherface the nickname idol (please dont ask 🤐) im just saying this because i didnt really have the best relationship with my best friends anymore , but this film somehow fixed it , they got interested in the film and we rewatched it together. I know its silly because look at the film im talking about but it worked really well! The only problem its that now everything is connected to chop top . nobody really needed to "hear" this i just wanted to finally say it .
O ' LG
Cult classic." Humble pie?"
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Tcm, is my favorite franchise ever. Like it's just so interesting and all, it's gonna be forever here 👉🏻🫀
Dog will hunt Ahhhahaha !!!
Dog will hunt
I understand the hate this movie gets in relation to the original. I really, really enjoy the original but this movie really, really has stuck with me for years from watching it as a kid to now. Chop Top is great and the surrealism of this movie is more disturbing than the original, in my opinion. To each their own but to say this movie is horrible is kind of harsh.
Acting technique.....Hopper was out of his mind on cocaine during this film. Period.
what's your point
DOG WILL HUNT !
………what’s a Nubian?!
There is nothing scary about this movie. It's campier and goofier more than anything else.
Very bad sequel
My favourite scene was the opening. Those two boys were hilarious lol. But overall, this film really was not that great in my opinion. The first one was an absolute masterpiece.
Bozo
I don't like the 2, the 3 is not much better, Jim was an amazing actor.
One of the worst sequels! They obviously missed the point of the original realism! I loved the 2003 remake!x
You realise the campy stuff is on tobe hoppers part he did it cause he knew he couldn't match his original
lame 🍅🍅🍅
This is great. Too bad thought the movie was a huge disappointment though
definitely not
The soundtrack main theme was so bloody awful. Cheap and crap. Ruins it imo
Movie was trash
This was a horrible sequel.
then why are you here 🤔
@@shelby8364 I'm everywhere.
NO IT WAS THE BEST EVER!!!!!!!
No taste