Overwatch 2 KIRIKO GUIDE - Aim, Synergies & Counters

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    Kiriko went live into competitive play today so now supports have a way to skillshot their way to victory in a very flank happy meta game in Overwatch 2. Kiriko is a clutch playmaker but not the best passive support so in today's video we teach the fundamentals of aiming, framing your shots to make them easier, how to know when to go aggressive, which picks pair best with Kiriko, general gameplay tips, as well as counters to Kiriko's base kit and ultimate. If you enjoyed this video please be sure to leave the video with a like and don't forget to subscribe and click the bell icon to actually get notified when our videos go live!
    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro
    01:22 Kiriko Ofuda Healing
    02:36 When to DPS as Kiriko
    03:51 Kiriko Aim Guide
    07:12 Swift Step Teleports
    07:50 Winston Synergy
    09:14 Protection Suzu & Healing Tips
    10:50 Kiriko Kitsune Rush (Ultimate) Tips
    11:58 How to Counter Kiriko Ult with Damage
    12:22 Counter Kiriko with Rein & Winston
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  • @YourOverwatch
    @YourOverwatch  ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Head to keeps.com/youroverwatch to get 50% off your first order of hair loss treatment.

    • @jbholland1987
      @jbholland1987 ปีที่แล้ว

      can i give you a tip? go to MENU>options>CONTROLS>KIRIKO>TURN OFF HEALING OFUDA. that way you fire just 2 healing tickets, instead of the 5 long animations.

    • @Dingelnator
      @Dingelnator ปีที่แล้ว

      Remember when Your Overwatch predicted some sort of team vs team ranked/guild system.
      Now we dont even have groupfinder anymore. cant even 5 stack.... such a shame

    • @Dingelnator
      @Dingelnator ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jbholland1987 alternatively (if its on) you can click "primaryfire" again or click/hold "secondary fire" to cancel healing ofuda. but i personally turn it off too

    • @Lumenaught
      @Lumenaught ปีที่แล้ว

      Poor Feign, I feel your pain.

  • @brendo_ow9813
    @brendo_ow9813 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    My favorite part is when Kiriko said “it’s Kiriko’ing time” and then Kiriko’d everywhere. Truly one of the supports I’ve ever meta’d.

    • @Libreom
      @Libreom ปีที่แล้ว +18

      holy fuck this shit is getting old. please stop.

    • @SwiggySwoo
      @SwiggySwoo ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Libreom I love the part where Libreom said "it's Libreom'ing time" and Libreom'ed all over, truly one of the comments I've ever seen.

    • @Libreom
      @Libreom ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@SwiggySwoo good one ill admit i smirked. still tired of this meme tho lmfao

    • @therealzahyra
      @therealzahyra ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Libreom I've never even seen this meme before today

    • @scayree
      @scayree ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Libreom everyone thinks it’s funny if it’s about them 💀

  • @sentinal_entity
    @sentinal_entity ปีที่แล้ว +14

    4:40 this is one of THE most solid pieces of advice for Kiriko aiming. Even before coming to the video I adapted a part of thr trick of using the enemy's movement against them by allowing them to walk into the headshot. Incredibly effective and they're so satisfying to pop off lol.

  • @Weightsss
    @Weightsss ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Everyone was scared that she would be too overpowered and she truly is no where near that. Playing with her is just like everyone else… timing and also just knowing when to use what ever.
    She’s truly very balanced.

    • @krischanlive
      @krischanlive ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes - also, at lower ranks, she perfoms worse than all the other healers. People go "oh X said she's meta so I'm gonna kick some serious ass now" but nope, it's not happening.

    • @abrawolf
      @abrawolf ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Kind of reminds me of astra from valorant, requires half a brain to use which is half a brain more than most players have

    • @gaboogarciaav
      @gaboogarciaav ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abrawolf Astra was kinda op when released, the community just realized it a little bit late.

    • @ajgerbi
      @ajgerbi ปีที่แล้ว

      Kiriko is lowkey underpowered in my opinion, compared to Zennyatta she does about the same amount of healing but less damage.

    • @Weightsss
      @Weightsss ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ajgerbi that’s why I’m glad they upped her ammo count a bit too because 12 blades was not enough. Lol just those 3 make a little bit of difference. Just like everyone thought ramattra was going to break the game. I told everyone that he’s going to be the most balanced character we’ve got this meta of Overwatch😂

  • @Frostingale
    @Frostingale ปีที่แล้ว +351

    kiriko feels like the most fair support ever released

    • @Donutbagle78
      @Donutbagle78 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Her dmg is hard to get, good heals easy to pull off but not impossible to outdamage. Good stuff

    • @OE-zv9gq
      @OE-zv9gq ปีที่แล้ว +27

      She is absolutely broken, does insane damage and her projectile size is way too big. Suzu has crazy dueling potential and is low risk to use since the cd is not that long. I don’t care though bc I’ll be abusing her to top 500

    • @nabsthegodgamer5419
      @nabsthegodgamer5419 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@OE-zv9gq tell us how that goes

    • @nabsthegodgamer5419
      @nabsthegodgamer5419 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      She feels like Ana without the insane healing, which is a good thing. Ana by herself is very well designed, but her numbers set a bad precedent for supports to come like Moira and Baptiste

    • @ani4389
      @ani4389 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@OE-zv9gq her protective hit box is the same as Zen orbs, just a lil bigger than hanzo

  • @CopShowGuy
    @CopShowGuy ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I think you can compare Kiriko to Bap in terms of shooting in between heals. There is a bit of a delay between your healing salvos as Kiriko. Usually enough time to toss out a kunai or two before you are able to heal again.

    • @fizzlock
      @fizzlock ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You can send 2, but it's super tight timing. If you want to slow down to aim, then it's usually better to take the time to toss out one accurate kunai before casting Ofuda again.
      Unless you're spamming a choke, but your tank shouldn't desperately need the back-to-back ofuda if that's the case and the fight hasn't started yet.

    • @robinv1485
      @robinv1485 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Was going to say the same, she can definitely do the same as bap, 2 in a tight timing, 1 more carefully placed, 1+suzu, reload, 1+melee, etc. All work between ofudas so I wouldn't say she doesn't have that.
      His point still stands, bap is way better to put pressure on shields. Kiriko's damage on shields is laughable, but she has something Bap doesn't have. Both her and Bap can reach higher ground and shoot above the shield in weird angles to control the positioning of the tank. The difference is, Bap doesn't have her dash, so she can go way deeper and have a way to come back, while bap will probably die or waste his lantern at least doing that in a lot of cases. Helping with shields isn't just shooting at it, there are multiple ways to help as a supp.

    • @YourOverwatch
      @YourOverwatch  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@robinv1485 You guys are missing an important point. Bap has a gap between heal nades you can use to shoot once. You're describing CREATING a gap in her healing to choose to damage instead, which I think because it's 13 per talisman, you're now doing 23 healing a second which ummm. not good.

    • @Xiatter
      @Xiatter ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I play on console (I know, I know), but I noticed that if I hold kunai trigger first, then hold healing trigger with it, Kiriko throws two kunai between healing reloads.
      But I don't do this, as the Genji diving me requires precise shots if I have any hope of surviving the 1v1.
      (Always nice when I can waste his resources and teleport away, even if I can't eliminate the little turd.)

    • @fizzlock
      @fizzlock ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@YourOverwatch No, it's the same as Baptiste, you can fire 2 Kunai in the time it takes for the Ofuda UI to "reload". I think you can do it by hold-buffering ofuda after you fire the first shot.
      It will animation cancel the last throw with the ofuda cast, but it will still throw it.
      However, that's usually not great, so it's better to use the gap to try to hit an accurate ofuda, since the Window for the second shot is so goddamn small.
      You can treat her like Bap with that, but it might be better to just save your 12 ammo if you aren't gonna hit something worthwhile. Bap has a much larger damage clip

  • @nailinthefashion
    @nailinthefashion ปีที่แล้ว +58

    One of the things I'm realizing is crucial for maximized Kitsune Rushes is making sure to save it until after they spend their tank ult, or at least 1 dps ult/to counter it. Shutting down a S76 is easy when you don't have to worry about an off angle High Noon or free Earthshatter, for example.

    • @bigfsi_smite777
      @bigfsi_smite777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then again u can use it to bait the enemy ult and cleanse a rein earth shatter

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bigfsi_smite777 this is a rly risky play but I usually ult early so this ends up happening anyway lol. Lots of upset Dvas thinking they got easy bombs too

  • @metalhead9142
    @metalhead9142 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really enjoy playing Kiriko. Her healing is great and taking out a Widow or an Ashe from downtown is the cherry on top.

  • @xRay5454
    @xRay5454 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Kiriko feels super balanced honestly. I think she's perfect in her spot. I really hope she won't fall in the Pro Meta balance nightmare

    • @idk777ish
      @idk777ish ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I mostly agree. I honestly feel like her fire rate or body shot dmg should get buffed just a bit, nothing crazy. In one of Freedo's videos from yesterday (10/17) he quoted the devs as saying Kiriko's dmg output is on par w Ana's, which probably lower than they intended.

    • @brendanclark1058
      @brendanclark1058 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@idk777ish I feel like her projectile speed should be a tad faster too. Not by much but to me it feels too slow, especially noticeable when you’re playing on console

    • @LeonSmith_
      @LeonSmith_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tbh I think they need to make her hs bonus lower and her normal damage higher, I know it’s her like unique trait but I think like a more consistent damage would be better for her.
      I feel buffing yhe bodyshot and changing the us a little lower would be good, like a maybe 2.75x damage or sum

    • @kevonbedford4078
      @kevonbedford4078 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@LeonSmith_ that would just make her a genji, she’s not suppose to be a dps she’s a support

    • @ken7007
      @ken7007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@idk777ish it shouldn't for how safe she is & the long range healing

  • @Aystub
    @Aystub ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I immediately rebound kunai to left click and healing to right click. Idk if anyone else has done that but it feels WAY more intutive to me that way haha.

  • @jakeaaronandtheboys
    @jakeaaronandtheboys ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Kiriko's Swift Mend is great for all the teammates who constantly break LOS while you're healing them. It also cleanses you like Sombra's Translocator and provides invincibility frames. On the topic of getting LOS, as a Mercy main, "Come to me for healing" is my favorite new ping.

  • @rosenracht
    @rosenracht ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for always making educational and relatable content!!

  • @kashiro2492
    @kashiro2492 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I'm so happy to finally another support that's skilled like ana this will be my first ranked match since 2020

    • @TheDevos1
      @TheDevos1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wdym skilled like ana

    • @PapaRunebeard
      @PapaRunebeard ปีที่แล้ว

      she is disabled in ranked in s1

    • @Dsaucin
      @Dsaucin ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah thinbeard, she joined the party today

    • @clarkkent1616
      @clarkkent1616 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheDevos1 probably “muh aim” basically

    • @TheDevos1
      @TheDevos1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clarkkent1616 that’s what I thought lol

  • @benjaminfrost2780
    @benjaminfrost2780 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    fantastic explanation on frame shooting, I am sure that will help some people. Great video!

  • @pear-nectar
    @pear-nectar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching this video a year later because I was looking for tips on how to aim with her and framing the shots as you described worked wonders immediately. I'm winning so many more 1v1s now. I obviously knew about wanting to anticipate enemies going for cover/escape routes, etc, but the idea of the frame and sort of aiming in the center of that could be a gamechanger for me with other projectile heroes too. Thanks a bunch!

  • @isaacwillis6042
    @isaacwillis6042 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally I’ve been waiting to grind her in ranked. Also super excited to see the cyber hanzo skin

  • @robbywoolums9071
    @robbywoolums9071 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think you missed a really big part of why Winston is good against Kiriko: Barriers block her healing, and that bubble is very good at getting in between her and her team.

  • @skullofmetal7
    @skullofmetal7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I already knew the aim frame kiriko guide!

  • @txm_o2666
    @txm_o2666 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guide is the best I’ve seen as many guides just go thru the basic ways the abilities work and not how to utilise them effectively and properly

  • @bbyowll
    @bbyowll ปีที่แล้ว

    You've been on fire. Great video.

  • @megavector0020
    @megavector0020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the vid, would have liked that you commented on what support duos are best with kiriko but great guide nonetheless

  • @justinward3218
    @justinward3218 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff!

  • @tyskipper7118
    @tyskipper7118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EARLY LETS GOOO! Keep up the work!

  • @tailgrowth
    @tailgrowth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One interesting thing about Kiriko's ult that I've been noticing is that, because everyone who uses it wants to stand in the middle of it, it makes it really easy to line up those headshots against an enemy team that's using it. This makes the Kiriko v. Kiriko matchup (which is so common right now) kind of a double-edged sword. Granted, you don't exactly want to stand in a position where you'll get blown up when the other team has the ult going, but if you can get some shots in while you're repositioning out of its area you can get some cheeky kills and turn the fight against them.

  • @ScronnyJohnny31
    @ScronnyJohnny31 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful and easy to understand, just have to put it into practice lol

  • @hentaihav3n
    @hentaihav3n ปีที่แล้ว

    i found it useful!!! ty

  • @M7PS3
    @M7PS3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey I was wondering if you could make another how to 1v1 as very hero guide, I remember back in the day you making a guide when they had just added eco point Antarctica for duels. That guide really helped me in my OW journey so an updated one would be amazing!

  • @griffin6539
    @griffin6539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really cool I have never seen anyone frame aiming this way...

    • @magicianamongthespirits622
      @magicianamongthespirits622 ปีที่แล้ว

      It kind of riffs off the idea of "shoot where they're going, not where they're at" and I often say that aloud to myself when I'm playing :P

  • @fashnek
    @fashnek ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t feel like this went deep enough on pairings or the ideal ways to use the Suzu, which seems to be the hardest part of her kit from a game sense perspective.

  • @Dratini__
    @Dratini__ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Something that might help you aim with Kiriko is ignoring her hand animations because the timing of her shots and hand movements are not in sync

  • @ASimpleInternetUser
    @ASimpleInternetUser ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've missed you guys. Glad to see Overwatch coming back on people's radars

  • @Madillusionist
    @Madillusionist ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Totally agree that kiriko works well with dive tanks.. Winston and doomfist are pretty fun to play with. Might want to add that you can toggle her healing in the settings, so that you don't have to send out all 5 of the healing ammo each time.

    • @YourOverwatch
      @YourOverwatch  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES! I FORGOT THAT~!

    • @enqoleva
      @enqoleva ปีที่แล้ว

      You can also achieve that in default settings by clicking once instead of holding the left mouse button and during the healing click again to stop sending heals.

  • @josmith8657
    @josmith8657 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Okay so 2 minutes in and there is already a mistake. Kiriko DOES have a burst healing ability, many people don't know this but Protection Suzu actually heals all affected targets for 50 hp, which combined with the invulnerability that allows you to get some ofuda's in, is really a burst heal

    • @jontaii152
      @jontaii152 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but if you use it to burst heal someone then you don’t have it to cleanse later and it’s a long cooldown for a burst heal

    • @Alyx1337
      @Alyx1337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jontaii152 that doesn't negate the point. In a pinch it can be really key to jump in and suzu heal your teammates from a blade or some other key damage.

    • @jontaii152
      @jontaii152 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Alyx1337 I wasn’t trying to negate the point but go off lol

    • @josmith8657
      @josmith8657 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jontaii152 That is a fair point, I definitely use it too casually, but even so, it is still a sort of burst heal, not a very strong one comparatively of course

    • @babyboi3
      @babyboi3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The talismans also heal other team members if they are close enough! I like to hit enemies like a charging Rhein or Dva with the Suzu as it makes them bounce back. Being a newer character ppl freak out like what just happened and start running away lol! Also great vs tracers and genjis when they charge at you, and Hog if he hooks you! You get space, invulnerability, and healing all in once. Enough time to teleport out of there!

  • @parkerwaddell-depuydt5953
    @parkerwaddell-depuydt5953 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorite ult combos is as soon as Ashe Bob’s, Kiriko ult makes it an absolute canon

  • @douglassalexander6008
    @douglassalexander6008 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    YOUR OVERWATCH IS BACK ON THE FEED BOYS :D

  • @brianlopez9956
    @brianlopez9956 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is nobody going to talk about how a bald guy is informing us about hair loss? The OW stress already got to him

    • @asaabed4200
      @asaabed4200 ปีที่แล้ว

      brian that was the joke mate

  • @Aadru
    @Aadru ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Wondering if there's gonna be a similar video for Junker Queen, I feel like she has a really high skill ceiling as a hero

    • @YourOverwatch
      @YourOverwatch  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An even better one I think...

  • @dr3amt780
    @dr3amt780 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:43 "Imagen the frame of option they [the enemy ] have" I need to embrace this. More thinking, less spraying lol. I don't play Overwatch alot but I do love the game (I should play it more). I like Kiriko but she feels tricky to play even medium good. This video had some really good pointers and tips I'm looking forward to trying out in game. Thanks. 😊

  • @DantesflameX
    @DantesflameX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In comp I’m looking for survivability and the power to make game changing plays. she just isn’t that for any of my open queues. Sticking with Moira/Zen. But she’s sooo fun to play casually.

  • @TheNerd
    @TheNerd ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Framing The Shot" was called "Predictive Shot" in "The Boomer Days" over 20 years ago (I started around 1999 in ESPL (which became ESL)).
    A good explanation is, that you have to predict the upcoming movement / actions of your enemy and pre-aim to where your oponnent is going to be.
    If you do this all of the time like "hes going to move this way and use ability X/Y" you are going to get WAY better in the game, since you can think about how to deal with "ability X/Y" seconds ahead of your enemy.
    For example: In a 1v1 duel *A LOT* of Genji players will immediately use their dash after they used deflect. As Kiriko you can use your Suzu to avoid getting hit by predicting when deflect ends.

  • @robotempire
    @robotempire ปีที่แล้ว +9

    but did you know the heal things are toggleable so you dont spend them all?

  • @EpicThe112
    @EpicThe112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Close combat you can also use a Brigitte. The way I do it is Flail whip then go for the kill if not available then Shield dash to a Kiriko as Brigitte

  • @81bats61
    @81bats61 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a video on the player icon silhouettes? I have seen a couple people with them but there is no tool tip on unlocking them.

  • @danksponge6938
    @danksponge6938 ปีที่แล้ว

    what crosshair setting do you use? i really like the one used in the video

  • @MrVad3r
    @MrVad3r ปีที่แล้ว

    6:08 daum that still image looks so good

  • @MrSlaughterrific
    @MrSlaughterrific ปีที่แล้ว

    the rein and winston as being strong against kiriko indirectly was a good observation

  • @ylvaverbeek7366
    @ylvaverbeek7366 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would be good settings for Kiriko?

  • @stephentomsky9576
    @stephentomsky9576 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Something to keep in mind, you are invincible during the teleport animation. This means that even if you don't move that much, porting can still dodge that Rein charge or DVa ult if you time it correctly like a Reaper Wraithwalk, Sombra Translocator or an Echo transformation.
    I was trapped in a tiny room with my orisa and an ulting Dva, i survived by looking to the right and telelporting to the Fortified Orisa within melee reach of me.

    • @robinv1485
      @robinv1485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's worth noting that you can dodge everything with dash, I've dodged even Cassidy's deadeye, but it has a strict timing. You're still vulnerable in the beginning of the animation and most times its worth throwing suzu if you're about to die (at least to auto attacks). The amount of times I died in the teleport animation because I was greedy and didn't throw suzu before (which is faster) is insane.

    • @pr0faker
      @pr0faker ปีที่แล้ว

      if she was within melee distance, you can't use the dash, needs a certain distance, its like 5 meters or so.

  • @jackbates5759
    @jackbates5759 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve found wrecking ball to be a fairly decent matchup vs Kiriko. The mines, CC and combination of high base hp and lack of a crit box when in ball mode makes kiriko a little redundant in that 1v1. Obviously she can just ignore him, but he also pairs really solidly with a kiriko; being a good engagement/cleanup tank, a viable teleport option and having a giga machine gun + cool-downs on crack when combined with her ult

  • @Venticular
    @Venticular ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk if it's these few updates but you can stop her heal by clicking again

  • @gabrielriva73
    @gabrielriva73 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, I must say, I love how tou advertise. I can´t even buy most for being brazilian (and because of our currency also), but man, I do love to watch new ones.

  • @sadBoiDev
    @sadBoiDev ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way you explain her kit, you should one of these videos for doomfist! I know he’s Garbo tier but ZBRA is somehow making it work lol

    • @Rajiin
      @Rajiin ปีที่แล้ว

      Zbra plays with the best players in the game , I'd like to see him play in lower ranks where no one knows him

  • @arf101088
    @arf101088 ปีที่แล้ว

    the 'spam damage pressure' part definitely makes it a bit more obvious that mercy doesnt have the output in many cases to compete, since shes the only one that doesnt have a good weapon. although she does also have damage boost, which adds damage on top of other attacks, that utility doesnt make up for its limited raw output. i wonder if they'd increase mercy's boost percent a bit, like up to 35%? maybe give her glock a better swap speed and damage, making it a reasonable tradeoff for losing all of your healing output?

  • @jumarmundo3741
    @jumarmundo3741 ปีที่แล้ว

    it was killing me when you were going teleporting up to genji at first point dorado when you could just climb the damn wall

  • @verniksprime1874
    @verniksprime1874 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

  • @paulvenn4447
    @paulvenn4447 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:45 same for Widow play, can't flick HS to save my life, but can camp a frame lol

  • @NexityCreative
    @NexityCreative ปีที่แล้ว

    11:32 im glad that im not the only one who whiffs healing ofuda's at enemies upon first whipping my gaze over to them...

  • @socks2423
    @socks2423 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was zenyata shooting faster in the 'gates' a bug? I thought that was a targeted nerf to zen.

    • @Libreom
      @Libreom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ig it was he was shooting "too fast." think he still gets a boost, it was just overtuned.

  • @Dietghostscp2107
    @Dietghostscp2107 ปีที่แล้ว

    These strategy guides have been helpful. It's just on console I feel o do have to adjust some of this becuase of the differences in play. Then again, the metas are different here.

    • @zoovaado7759
      @zoovaado7759 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man i don’t miss my ow console days

  • @RefusedYT
    @RefusedYT ปีที่แล้ว

    that pause at 6:05 is cool

  • @rustyshackleford9154
    @rustyshackleford9154 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I be out healing everyone when I play kiriko. And hitting those headshots.

  • @senor135
    @senor135 ปีที่แล้ว

    does the 70 heal / second take into account her reload? i think her heal is pretty good, but might be slightly lower than 70/sec, techincally.

  • @OblivianTy7
    @OblivianTy7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic info as always!! But her name isn't said "ki-Riko", there's no emphasis mid-word on the R. It's simply "Ki-ri-ko"

  • @d.b.hemlock
    @d.b.hemlock ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been playing Kiriko like I've played Zenyatta for years. The deeps are there when needed, but you main focus on play is attrition.
    Kiriko isn't there to keep the whole team healed. Nor is she there to do only DPS either. Her kit is tailored to be helpful for nearly any situation. Front line tank battles, or flanking with a Gengi. Kiriko is there to insure the battle always goes in your team's favor. It's all about Attrition, incremental wins.
    But I do have a problem with her Kunai. She needs either a projectile speed increase or a rate of fire buff. If you buff her rate of fire (or throw more than one Kunai at a time) then her body shot damage needs a buff and her head shot needs to be nerfed some.
    But if they increased the projectile speed, they can keep it the way it is and it should make aiming feel a little more natural. At this point you're kinda gambling where you're aiming at. Hoping they strafe into your aim. And although that's a good strategy, it is very inconsistent.
    Kiriko is rapidly becoming one of my favorite support characters. Long time Zenyatta main and Moira main. So she's right up there with my preferred playstyle. But she could use a slight tweak to make her damage more consistent.

  • @sungodrj3200
    @sungodrj3200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video and thank you for the aim pointers. I do have a very slight counter argument for her body shots though. Just for a little personal credit, I am currently Diamond 1 playing mostly Kiriko for my last 7 wins.
    I completely agree that her body shot damage is putrid compared to her headshot damage. But I do think it still has it’s place. 2 body shots is about 80 damage and in close quarters 2 body shots and a melee is over 100. Either way if you hit either of those on a squishy, it can scare them enough to disengage and give your team an advantage.
    Obviously the most optimal is to land 2 headshots on a dps or support and send them back to spawn, but in a panic or in the poke phase, I do think you can get away with a possible combination of both.

    • @YourOverwatch
      @YourOverwatch  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A melee is 30 damage my guy. Yeah sometimes melee is good too lol.

    • @sungodrj3200
      @sungodrj3200 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YourOverwatch I know it’s not the best take it was just weighing on my head lol

  • @frankmc8355
    @frankmc8355 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Kiriko suffers from not having a burst heal"
    I mean, If you hit with protection suzu is 180 health and 0.75 seconds of invuln, which really isn't worse than Bap's burst heal. I've been getting good results by using that ability when I would normally be trying to burst heal someone on a different hero

    • @jameslowell9656
      @jameslowell9656 ปีที่แล้ว

      It heals 50

    • @frankmc8355
      @frankmc8355 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jameslowell9656 Except you can get a full heal off (130 HP) before the invuln is over, if you're using it to burst heal, which is the context for my statement.

  • @DEML91
    @DEML91 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kiriko does have a small burst heal for tanks, in high damage situations if you are already healing the tank , using the E at the same time you are recharging her charms and them continue to heal him , it will stack the 70 hp/s plus 50 hp plus 1 sec immunity to be healed with 70 hp/s again.

    • @apawhite
      @apawhite ปีที่แล้ว

      A burst pseudo-heal on a 14s cooldown which then leaves your team vulnerable to the ults she's there to stop. If you're not going to keep the Suzu around for real threats, why not switch to Moira?

    • @TikkaQrow
      @TikkaQrow ปีที่แล้ว

      Only do that as last resort to keep tank/team alive (and hopefully fall back), or if there's roll potential. Bell cooldown is too much to spam reliably, especially if enemy team has a smart ana that knows to wait for bell before throwing anti heal nades, or enemy ults

  • @diwataa
    @diwataa ปีที่แล้ว

    idk who cuhriko is but this was a nice guide for kiriko 👍🏼

  • @casualgames1238
    @casualgames1238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never been this early before

  • @kevinkozlowski3060
    @kevinkozlowski3060 ปีที่แล้ว

    The "framing the shot" helped so much, thank you!

  • @64thecaptain
    @64thecaptain ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I notice in your game play, you seem to always use all 5 healing papers. You can change kiriko's settings to allow you to only shoot them out while you hold the button. This allows you to stop the animating if necessary to do damage

  • @Teflora
    @Teflora ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another thing about Kirikos ultimate is because of the lingering effect it's almost like it covers a bigger area then it actually does. Players can step in and out of it to only recharge a few seconds off their cooldowns. Think about that when lining it up!

  • @raindropwalka
    @raindropwalka ปีที่แล้ว

    5:25 I do this since I used to play MW3 Infected I let the other players position themselves for me and it always works AIM FOR THE HEAD BABY

  • @arlyssa5423
    @arlyssa5423 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you turn off the ofuda toggle in her settings it makes it way easier to multitask

  • @Chubbyboii456
    @Chubbyboii456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should try using some of that hair grow product on yourself

  • @TikkaQrow
    @TikkaQrow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i got 40 hours on her now, 35 in qp, and 5 in ranked.
    win rate isn't as high in ranked as other supports (a mere 45% compared to mercy/moira at 70% and 55%), but that seems to be due to a LOT of randoms in ranked don't yet understand what to inherently expect from kiriko team mates/enemies. I was actually surprised how few legacy players in ranked bothered playing qp whatsoever.
    Kiriko's bell cannot be slept on, and lets you play games with annoying Ana mains. Bell can wake team from Earthshatter, and completely nullifies Mei's ult. Practice bell s to allow your team to just ignore Dva nukes, or bait out junk tires (high risk/reward tho). Use bell to allow ally mercy to pull off risky resurrections that would normally see her die, just get in the habit of chucking it at mercy in any game. Bell romoves collision from you for 1 second, and displaces enemies. It's very fun to face a charging rein, chuck a bell at has face, and watch him phase thru you to die alone in yout team's backline.
    She can heal from an exceptional distance along with flanking, there's some matches I'll be some meters behind an ally Ana, literally watching the ENTIRE map with swift step letting me dive bell/heal a split off team mate. Or save that ana from Sobra/Genji/Reaper. For average players Focus on healing, especially preemptive healing on team mates you think will take dmg in a second or two.
    Her headshots are really good cqc while backpedaling, and enemy snipers stand still, or move predictably, if you know the corner they're peaking you can chuck kunai at them, you don't need the kill, just the headshot tink. Snipers will find cover and wait for heals. Out of the fight for 5 seconds. Don't chase the kills unless you have room to, just the headshot tink is often enough for your team to finish off whatever enemy you hit. During group fights, just chuck a few head level around enemy tank, when enemies are grouped it's a lot easier to land crits, Those kunai are like slower Hanzo logs. Again focus healing first.
    Don't fight alone, you can force team mates to help you. Even mid fight, her step gives the same as bell, just teleport 3 meters to the left to better position in fight.
    Practice wall climbing everywhere. She's a Ninja. Her verticality allows for some insane 'oh no i'm trapped' jukes, and practice wall climb trick shots. A lot of ranged mains still have a hard time aiming up and down versus keeping crosshair at head level and just strafing/sweeping left/right. A desperate wall climb can get your step off cooldown to tele away.
    Out of the thousand hours i have in ovverwatch, i had maybe an hour each on genji/hanzo, but i've picked them up for dps roles, just to practice wall climb tricks. Also was a big Titanfall 2 player and have decent hours on Apex. Those games get you thinking verticality quite well as well.

    • @babyboi3
      @babyboi3 ปีที่แล้ว

      73% win rate, and that’s so low bc I jumped into games with her immediately not knowing her kit as I do. Doing Aim training has helped me improve drastically, i have increased 10% in one night after a few aim training sessions. Makes a big big difference!

  • @vane909090
    @vane909090 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:20 This is why you jump vs projectiles.

  • @irmb8876
    @irmb8876 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let the kitsune guide you!

  • @gmanz5
    @gmanz5 ปีที่แล้ว

    COMP KIRIKO LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!

  • @zoaroakgenus3462
    @zoaroakgenus3462 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Theres something that should also be noted in Kiriko’s healing ofuda. It’s that at long ranges the delay from when you input to when the target actually gets healed is significantly longer than other healing in the game. Even Ana’s unscoped projectile shots travel slower. You can’t just observe a team fight and react to damage like other heroes. You have to predict whats going to happen to a degree. I whole heartedly believe that if there was a player that could see what would happen even just 1 second in the future with 100% accuracy. that they would make Kiriko broken.

    • @The.Brother.in.Christ
      @The.Brother.in.Christ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure anyone with 1 second future sight would make anything broken in any fps game

    • @sentinal_entity
      @sentinal_entity ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The.Brother.in.Christ LOL

  • @soulbounddoll1826
    @soulbounddoll1826 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uh..? Doesn't the invincibility orb heal some? Because it really does feel like it does.

    • @PooPooPawChew
      @PooPooPawChew ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably feels that way because of the invincibility.

  • @bradentibbles
    @bradentibbles ปีที่แล้ว

    What's a main tank?

  • @stalwartzero7001
    @stalwartzero7001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of 100 wins with her I’ve only been out healed twice by a mercy by like 200. I usually do 10/15k per qp match with 20/30 assists.

  • @HalysonFernandes
    @HalysonFernandes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like a lot her, but in my experience Baptiste still has the better balance damage/heal.

  • @reifenrir
    @reifenrir ปีที่แล้ว

    3:57 SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

  • @damienfarron
    @damienfarron ปีที่แล้ว

    i love kiriko sword art online

  • @KaizikuM
    @KaizikuM ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't think I'd like OW again, but I love it. Didn't think I'd mess with Kiriko ever, but I love her. I could not figure out how my aim was taking a dumpster dive vs Bap, and now I understand how to fix that. This video was super helpful, if not just for that one part.

  • @LaiLai-2111
    @LaiLai-2111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you to the people playing Kiriko for the first time on the enemy team in comp for giving me free SR

  • @JareBareXP
    @JareBareXP ปีที่แล้ว

    That first clip. No healing a truly hit.... if I got healed everytime I seen a kirko try to heal through a wall I'd be full health everytime

  • @GodOfPizza
    @GodOfPizza ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At this point I feel like they're saving bastion so they can release him in season 2 as their "new hero"

  • @BoulderingHighlights
    @BoulderingHighlights ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LMAO i cant stop laughing at the Keeps ad from a bald guy

  • @johnmascia7612
    @johnmascia7612 ปีที่แล้ว

    why doesnt he prefer the dva kiriko matchup over the mankey fox matchup?

  • @colinwalsh1719
    @colinwalsh1719 ปีที่แล้ว

    When are they going to fix broken career profile stats

  • @DreadedLad88
    @DreadedLad88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Try telling my diamond teammates that "most things don't need full health to be effective."

  • @theeater3573
    @theeater3573 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey is there a way you can do a console guide I am very very good with her on console but I wish someone did a in depth guide on console version Kiriko

    • @Dietghostscp2107
      @Dietghostscp2107 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their needs to be more console guides for overwatch in general..as someone who likes her, the idea of her being garbage most likely stems from differences in her play on PS5, Xbox etc. Remember. Genji on PC vs console is night and day most of the time till you get to top 500 where everyone's using mnk. Rest of us normals suffer on controller.

    • @stenyethanmathews945
      @stenyethanmathews945 ปีที่แล้ว

      Change jump to left trigger

    • @brendanclark1058
      @brendanclark1058 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stenyethanmathews945 So make your ofuda connected to Button A/X? That just sounds like it’d feel weird lol

  • @soulbounddoll1826
    @soulbounddoll1826 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's going to take a lot of effort for a noob like me to get good at aiming with kiriko. But I'll keep trying.

  • @DoctorQcumber
    @DoctorQcumber ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this video presents Kiriko's intended playstyle well, but I'm worried she's going to have another playstyle that the developers didn't intend which might be broken until they nerf it: heal bot. Her ult is VERY strong, and it's very difficult to mix in her damage while maximizing her healing output and therefore ultimate generation. Focusing on damage output at all requires you to take riskier positions and not top off your teammates as often. I'm thinking Lucio and Zarya might be the other key heroes for this playstyle, since you want Kiriko to do the bulk of the healing and Zarya is the best tank with Kiriko's ultimate. The extra bubbles make your team virtually impossible to kill. Even if her teammates have to run out of Kiriko ult to chase kills, Zarya can just stay in it and feed them bubbles. We won't know if this is the case for sure just yet, but I'm worried we might see it show up during OWL playoffs

    • @LasertechStudios3142
      @LasertechStudios3142 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't bap do the same thing but also put out astronomically more raw damage? I also think having everyone on the enemy team fall over dead due to window is better than kiriko ult with zarya bubbles, especially given how quick Bap can charge his windows.
      I don't doubt a bad ranked player might try to play that way, but I have a hard time seeing that be a higher level meta when Bap exists.

    • @pr0faker
      @pr0faker ปีที่แล้ว

      usually you don't need to heal that much in her ult since you can do it so much faster, also your kunai's fire like a smg then, so you can burst down high damage dps or the tank pretty easy yourself. 2-3 kunai, a spot of healing, 2-3 kunai then healing, etc. if you see someone low heal 2x, its so fast you can get them to full health from very low to almost 200 within a second. Also you have 3 suzu, if you throw the first one right before ulting. Then you generate 1 you can use during the ult, then the last one is finished right after. if your team doesn't win then, your team is shit, or the other team is just better.

    • @DoctorQcumber
      @DoctorQcumber ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LasertechStudios3142 this is definitely a fair point, but Kiriko does have some benefits over Bap. She is generally more survivable and her ult is much harder to kite. She seems like a hybrid of Bap and Moira to me. It's hard for me to say how she compares to Bap, but what I'm specifically saying is that her ult is particularly strong compared to the rest of her kit, so when you do play her, she might just get used as a heal bot to build ult. That's not saying they won't have to buff her first to make her viable, though

    • @DoctorQcumber
      @DoctorQcumber ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pr0faker I agree. I was specifically talking about her focusing on healing when she doesn't have her ult so she can build it faster

    • @babyboi3
      @babyboi3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like to Ult with Rhein bc once he shatters and begins swinging that hammer, with the increased speed. It’s pretty epic!

  • @urchinsify
    @urchinsify ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how he went straight to kiriko ult tips without a brief explanation to what the ult even is.
    Before you say you can "read it in game" or "read between the lines"... Let me remind you this video is a "GUIDE"

    • @sigaev11
      @sigaev11 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am happy he didn’t explain the abilities as this is an advanced guide. It took me several attempts to find a guide that expects me to know the basics and doesn’t waste time, goes straight to actual game style information.

  • @kowshikjayaraman9267
    @kowshikjayaraman9267 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly kiriko's stats may look weak, but you die very little with that much survivability and thus contributing more. Kunai is super fun to use. Ult is busted and builds decently fast. Has insane mobility with lower cooldowns and suzu is just a budget immortality field that is way more versatile. She is pretty op generally, people will realize it as time goes.

    • @ScooterDoge
      @ScooterDoge ปีที่แล้ว

      Not before they nerf/buff her.

    • @Rajiin
      @Rajiin ปีที่แล้ว

      No she's really not lol

    • @jameslowell9656
      @jameslowell9656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think she's mid or low tier. Despite hearing so much about how great her damage is I've never seen a single kiriko put up remotely impressive damage yet. She gets hard diffed in duels by anyone that knows how to strafe/jump/crouch spam because it becomes impossible to reliably hit headshots at that point. It really doesn't matter how good your aim is either, it's a slow fire rate projectile and will always have luck involved in landing it and strafe/jump/crouch spamming hard counters her from anywhere but extremely close range.

  • @robotempire
    @robotempire ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew you’d have the smartest resources the firstest