XD dont worry man its understandable. I just until recently (actually a couple hours before this video XD) thought the same thing. Many plants typically are that way. If you want a certain fruit or whatever from the plant you have to get a certain species. Kind of like types of tomatoes or watermelon.
Very interesting! A lot of people don't know that's the thing with peppers, too! Green peppers (bell pepper, chile pepper, etc) are unripened! Yellow is the next stage of ripeness, orange is next, and red is a ripened pepper! Peppers get sweeter as they ripen which is why green peppers might not taste that great to someone, they're not really ready to be picked, yet!
@@f3nt0 😂 I'm pretty sure it's the same with peppercorns, too. I should have mentioned that many of the colored bell peppers in grocery stores are actually hybrids.
The different types of tea is not when of harvesting time but mainly processing method (e.g. wilting, drying, bruising, steaming, etc.) with influences of leaf maturity and even time of plucking.
haha oh boy. This was my second passion, and I love helping people, so when larry's called me, I was not about to turn down the opportunity. helping people is my passion.
Larry, Thanks for creating this video. I wanted to mention that tea plants could survive temperature below 40 if you heavily mulch them in late fall. I have been growing 3 different varieties of camellia sinensis for 5 years now in Atlanta, Georgia and plants of 3 different varieties (Japanese, Chinese & Sochi) have all survived our winters. So at least it works for zone 7b. Plants also prefer acidic soils. Getting plants to grow is somewhat of a challenge but getting the flavor profile of a plant at par with commercial farms is very challenging. Based on my own observations and research I have done, you need about 3-4 years to reach an acceptable level. Elevation is also critical to developing a complex flavor of your tea. Otherwise you are just growing the plant for flowers
I am in zone 6b and have had 6 tea plants growing outside for at least the last 5 years. They are planted in the ground and are in a hollow, where there isn't as much high winds. The nursery where I got them stated that some types tea plants can survive my zone better than others outside. They are more shaded there also. I will be trying another bunch on a south facing full sunlight area with little wind soon.
@THE_12TH_ KID They survive and grow slowly in my soil and climate. I'm in a limestone soil with a ph of around 6-7. For actual self-use production, I'd need several plants. I drink a lot of tea.
I'm in zone 8d, and tea camellia does beautifully outside year round. Mine was 5×5 and ~ 15 when i moved last fall. I've got several seedlings and a start that's several years old for my new home - to be planted soon!
not really on how you harvest more on the side of how you process them. green tea needs no oxidization or browning of the leafs, black tea you have to wait for them to wilt and brown before they are dried, and oolong tea is oxidized a bit then dried quickly to stop oxidization. you can do this with all stages of tea leaves but the best tea is made of only the bud and the first new leaf or two.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic... or if you are asking me a question about the general processing of tea. there are too many trolls on the internet anymore and its very difficult to tell who is serious, and who is just being a jerk.
okay you were serious sorry. a troll is someone that gets one the internet trying to get a rise out of people putting things in the form of questions that shouldn't be or being overly sarcastic trying to piss someone off. and yes its the way tea is processed that makes the type of tea, black is fermented or just let wilt in piles for a good long while, green rolled and dried immediately, and oolong is a very delicate combination of both, then white tea is just newly formed buds as well as flowers dried immediately.
Thanks for the tutorial I’ve looked everywhere but I can’t find any organic tea without caffeine or any or additive at stores. I’m not a health nut or anything I just drink tea with raw honey as a alternative to coffee to be healthier. But thanks to this video I can now easily grow tea
XP i just came across this video and I had to reply I mean you set it up XP. So were you waiting that whole year for someone to ask you that question? Im assuming you were making a reference to the movie Gremlins right?
Im thinking of growing tea plants at home but i live in Sweden. It feels like a hard plant to grow here because of the cold in the winters and the rainy days in the summer. I know the video is old but if you are still active, do you know if it is possible?
Luke, I live in So. Cal. Winter temps don't get extremely low here. With not a lot of space for greening up my home, would these be ok to have on maybe a front porch? Or out in the yard somewhere?
I said the same thing, what's the MI guy doing on a different channel. I drink hot tea's and want to start growing the plants. I am in Zone 9, north of Houston, Texas. What time of year is best to grow tea?
so what i would recommend is harvest just a few as it grows and you prune. i prune my 4 that i grew from seed very heavily. And to begin them to bush out nice i clipped off their growing tip at the 4th to the 6th bud. that makes them turn into a bush style and produce 10X as many leaves for harvesting alot faster than if you just left it to its own devices, I also keep pruning when it starts growing more taking off tops of side shoots at 6 to 8 buds. Not only does this technique give you more leaves but makes the plant trunk get very large and supportive so wind or animals don't hurt it.
DX uh nuu your website is down. That isn't a permanent thing is it? Are you just experiencing technical difficulties and will be avaliable at a later date? I hope so I would really enjoy growing tea and I think you guys would be perfect help for me to accomplish that task
"green tea or black tea is totally based on when you pick the leaves" ??? I don't think so. It is based on the post harvest processing - White: wilted and unoxidized; Yellow: unwilted and unoxidized but allowed to yellow; Green: unwilted and unoxidized; Oolong: wilted, bruised, and partially oxidized; Black: wilted, sometimes crushed, and fully oxidized;
Old comment but it's a mix of a few factors, and he isn't completely wrong either. What differentiates white tea from green tea is when the leaves are picked, as white tea consists of the young buds.
@@ivanlagrossemoule That's not correct, certain whites like silver needle are all buds, but there are leafy-er whites like gong mei and shou mei. You can also make an all bud green tea. The difference is in the processing.
Um, the tea plant can survive cold just fine, to an extent. In my area of the USA (zone 7) it will do just fine outside in the ground all year. If it's in a pot though, it will need to come indoors.
I've got one growing outside in zone 8b. It easily survives winters that dip to the mid teens. I thought they like acidic soil also so I've been fertilizing with pine needles. Seems to be growing well.
Ok i was interested in making my own tea. But you lost me at "the time you pick the leaves determines the type of tea" 😅😂 Im sorry but i dont have time for that. Im going back to buying tea at the the store. This was a very interesting and informing video tho. Thumbs up!👍
He's actually incorrect about that; picking time is important, but the type of tea is determined by processing, which unfortunately is even more complicated :(
Hey bro, your last video was 6 years ago. If you still have passion for this topic you should come back. You'll do pretty well now that youtube promotes content like these.
Now I know how I can grow my own black tea. What about orange pekoe? I'd like to be able to make tea like the famous Lip... company but without the GMO and chemicals they add
River Prepper Orange pokoe is a specific leaf grade. There was a minor error in the video, its how you process the leaves the determines the type of tea you get. There are some (Japanese) teas that are different because they are harvested during different times of the year (Bancha for instance). upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Black_tea_grading.jpg Grading of different leaves. High quality Black tea is made from terminal buds, sightly high quality black tea is made from 1 bud and 1 leaf, next down is 1 bud + 2 leaves, and the lower quality is made from either 1 bud + 3 leaves or just three leaves and no buds. Lipton's tea is basically floor sweepings. It's the left overs of the above tea processing. It's the lowest of the low called "Fannings". :(
I would try for Chinese tea plants ( camellia sinensis large leaf form or the yunanensis), Russian tea plants ( ex soviet Georgia or Sochi varieties), or Tibet/Nepal/Darjeeling tea plants. Those would be closer to your environment, I would suggest avoiding assamica which is not frost hardy nor the Japanese or small leaf form as they are also not frost hardy and have thin delicate leaves. So you want: camellia sinensis v. Large leaf form, camellia sine sis v. Sochi, or camellia sinensis yunnanensis ( sp?). I don't know the scientific names of the others. Avoid: camellia sinensis assamica/camellia assamica, camellia sinensis v. Small leaf, or camellia sinensis v. Yabukita/c.s.v. zairai ( Japanese varieties, highly unlikely to even see these for sale).
***** thanks for the information, we have a lot of it since we keep around 60 hens, so we have mounds of it we use to grow vegetables. can you keep them well indoors and how big will they get?
Drinking tea and watching this.
Haha me too!!
Same XD
Same
Same
YES
Thanks dude. I'm one of those clowns who though different teas came from different plants... Excellent vid.
XD dont worry man its understandable. I just until recently (actually a couple hours before this video XD) thought the same thing. Many plants typically are that way. If you want a certain fruit or whatever from the plant you have to get a certain species. Kind of like types of tomatoes or watermelon.
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I don't think you are alone....
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Very interesting! A lot of people don't know that's the thing with peppers, too! Green peppers (bell pepper, chile pepper, etc) are unripened! Yellow is the next stage of ripeness, orange is next, and red is a ripened pepper! Peppers get sweeter as they ripen which is why green peppers might not taste that great to someone, they're not really ready to be picked, yet!
I legit thought you were talking about peppercorn. 😅
@@f3nt0
😂 I'm pretty sure it's the same with peppercorns, too.
I should have mentioned that many of the colored bell peppers in grocery stores are actually hybrids.
Close, peppers are either red or yellow, green are picked before they turn. Orange peppers are cultivars
🤔ahhhh that’s why they’re packaged in that order 👌🏽great info
The different types of tea is not when of harvesting time but mainly processing method (e.g. wilting, drying, bruising, steaming, etc.) with influences of leaf maturity and even time of plucking.
I was like hey that's MIGardener! how cool! I gonna try my had at growing my own tea!
Shelita Williams you bet ya! ;) I love and live to help people.
Shelita Williams I googled growing tea and saw the thumb nail and thought it looked like Luke! He’s a lot less enthusiastic here
I had to do a double take. I was 99% sure that was Luke!
I came here to say same! 😂
I didn't realize MIGardener did the videos! I'm defiantly gonna start watching more of these videos
haha oh boy. This was my second passion, and I love helping people, so when larry's called me, I was not about to turn down the opportunity. helping people is my passion.
Me: Searches for grow your own tea
TH-cam: here’s a coffee ad!
Thank you for saying 40°. That was extremely helpful. I'm moving to VA from FL and wouldn't have known what was considered too cold.
Larry,
Thanks for creating this video. I wanted to mention that tea plants could survive temperature below 40 if you heavily mulch them in late fall. I have been growing 3 different varieties of camellia sinensis for 5 years now in Atlanta, Georgia and plants of 3 different varieties (Japanese, Chinese & Sochi) have all survived our winters. So at least it works for zone 7b. Plants also prefer acidic soils.
Getting plants to grow is somewhat of a challenge but getting the flavor profile of a plant at par with commercial farms is very challenging. Based on my own observations and research I have done, you need about 3-4 years to reach an acceptable level. Elevation is also critical to developing a complex flavor of your tea. Otherwise you are just growing the plant for flowers
Why does elevation matter? Better drainage? How can I mimic that environment in Texas?
@@kimberlyscaliatine1120probably easier in Texas, just keep it wet.
Oh wow this is MIGardner...I love this guy and follow his channel. This was a lovely surprise. :-)
My roommate and I love tea and have been looking into getting some plants for our apartment. Thanks for putting this on my radar! XOXO
I am in zone 6b and have had 6 tea plants growing outside for at least the last 5 years. They are planted in the ground and are in a hollow, where there isn't as much high winds. The nursery where I got them stated that some types tea plants can survive my zone better than others outside. They are more shaded there also. I will be trying another bunch on a south facing full sunlight area with little wind soon.
How did it go? Also in 6b and want to plant Tea
@THE_12TH_ KID They survive and grow slowly in my soil and climate. I'm in a limestone soil with a ph of around 6-7. For actual self-use production, I'd need several plants. I drink a lot of tea.
I'm in zone 8d, and tea camellia does beautifully outside year round.
Mine was 5×5 and ~ 15 when i moved last fall.
I've got several seedlings and a start that's several years old for my new home - to be planted soon!
Hey fancy seeing you here Mi Gardner. Love oolong
Interesting. I love tea and definitely want to try growing my own tea.
Im surprised I see you here, You are MIGardener guy, right? Im a fan! I have tea plant and I found this video while researching about tea plants.
And here I thought all this tea was from different plants. The more I learn the more I realize how much I don't know yet.
What about when the plant gets a little bigger….can it be planted outdoors in TN and survive the winter?
Yooo, that’s my boi Luke from the MI Gardener channel! What is he doing here?? Lol. I guess he worked for this company at some point in time.
not really on how you harvest more on the side of how you process them. green tea needs no oxidization or browning of the leafs, black tea you have to wait for them to wilt and brown before they are dried, and oolong tea is oxidized a bit then dried quickly to stop oxidization. you can do this with all stages of tea leaves but the best tea is made of only the bud and the first new leaf or two.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic... or if you are asking me a question about the general processing of tea. there are too many trolls on the internet anymore and its very difficult to tell who is serious, and who is just being a jerk.
okay you were serious sorry. a troll is someone that gets one the internet trying to get a rise out of people putting things in the form of questions that shouldn't be or being overly sarcastic trying to piss someone off. and yes its the way tea is processed that makes the type of tea, black is fermented or just let wilt in piles for a good long while, green rolled and dried immediately, and oolong is a very delicate combination of both, then white tea is just newly formed buds as well as flowers dried immediately.
Hey! It’s MIgardener!!
Thanks for the tutorial I’ve looked everywhere but I can’t find any organic tea without caffeine or any or additive at stores. I’m not a health nut or anything I just drink tea with raw honey as a alternative to coffee to be healthier. But thanks to this video I can now easily grow tea
The caffeine isn't added. It's produced by the plant and is naturally in the leaves.
Thanks Larry, I love tea so I was just curious. Seems one of the few things I would actually want to plant
they come from the same plant!?
So does white tea and puer. It's just a question of when you pick and the oxidation/fermentation strategies you use.
Thank you so much for your explanation, Frankly I I learn English language, so I need a partner native speaker, and thanks for everyone ❤🙏
He's so cute.
What about indoor with grow lights? Will that work?
I looked up Migardener growing Container Tea tree. Was not dissapointed lol
❤👏👍Great video! Good info without the fluff!
Love you video! Would love to buy some but I live in Quebec... hum...
Handsome man!!! good choice in picking him to be on video!
Seriously lol
Can the more mature plants handle the varying temperatures? Or do they always need to be brought inside during cold seasons?
I just saw that the tea plant is currently unavailable. Do you know when it will be in stock again?
Which potting mix do I buy when I transplant to larger pot?
Thank you❤
You need a place to ferment the tea to make black. It can be done by putting it into a special environment or cooking it carefully
This is interesting because my tea plant prefers acidic soil - is it because of different variations?
What about if you just put it in miracle grow potting soil would that work to grow green tea?
What kinda tea would you recommend to grow in Maine? Outside now
Interesting,can you feed it after midnight?
XD lmao what is this Grimlins XP
MochaTater I find it weird how you reply to a very old comment but okay
XP i just came across this video and I had to reply I mean you set it up XP. So were you waiting that whole year for someone to ask you that question? Im assuming you were making a reference to the movie Gremlins right?
MochaTater I honestly forgot about this comment till u commented
Walter Martinez are you still alive? Hellllooo hellllllloooooOOOO.....????
Im thinking of growing tea plants at home but i live in Sweden. It feels like a hard plant to grow here because of the cold in the winters and the rainy days in the summer. I know the video is old but if you are still active, do you know if it is possible?
What about soil density... does it like well draining soil? like - should I add lots of sand to it?
I liked this alot
Is that all Camellia Plants are Tea Plant? Would you sell in bulk? like buy few dozens for our yard? Thank you for the info.
Hey the MI Gardener dude!
Luke, I live in So. Cal. Winter temps don't get extremely low here. With not a lot of space for greening up my home, would these be ok to have on maybe a front porch? Or out in the yard somewhere?
I said the same thing, what's the MI guy doing on a different channel. I drink hot tea's and want to start growing the plants. I am in Zone 9, north of Houston, Texas. What time of year is best to grow tea?
we just got our plant the other day, how come I only received one plant?
LUKE! What are you doing here?!
thanks for the video , can i grow tea in coconut peat?
Your links are outdated.
I watch you on a different TH-cam.
I can’t seem to find it☹️
What is the name of your more recent TH-cam channel?
How much growing do i need to do to keep a steady supply?
Came here to learn about germinating these seeds to grow them. Got an advertisement that he sells tea plants instead.
Hello MIGardener! 👋 NICE 😁
Thanks TIL 😊🎄🐧🌈
Is pine mulch good for tea plants
Hey...just got my tea plays from you today....so out of curiosity, how big/bushy should the plants be before harvesting?
-thnx
All-thingz-cool we typically recommend waiting till the plant is about 1 1/2 feet tall, or has at least 40 leaves.
so what i would recommend is harvest just a few as it grows and you prune. i prune my 4 that i grew from seed very heavily. And to begin them to bush out nice i clipped off their growing tip at the 4th to the 6th bud. that makes them turn into a bush style and produce 10X as many leaves for harvesting alot faster than if you just left it to its own devices, I also keep pruning when it starts growing more taking off tops of side shoots at 6 to 8 buds. Not only does this technique give you more leaves but makes the plant trunk get very large and supportive so wind or animals don't hurt it.
How big do they get?
Also, is it hard to grow them from the seed?
+PTNLemay They grow into medium sized trees over the years. Starts out as a bush
Thanks very informative :)
So before migardner there was larrys orchid.
Hello MiGardener :)
What is the high temp the plant can survive? What size pot? Wet soil, well drained, dry?
1717jbs no hotter than 95, any size pot is good, and they like it damp.
AuSable Botanicals Ltd. Thanks.
I want to grow tea, but I don't use Amazon at all, do you ship direct not thru Amazon?
DX uh nuu your website is down. That isn't a permanent thing is it? Are you just experiencing technical difficulties and will be avaliable at a later date? I hope so I would really enjoy growing tea and I think you guys would be perfect help for me to accomplish that task
will it evetually get strong enogh to where it dies in the winter and comes back in the summer or spring please reply
+River Goodridge its an evergreen tree
After harvesting the plant will the plant then die or continually produce more leaves?
David Barnes It will continuously put out more leaves if you don't pick too many all at once.
"green tea or black tea is totally based on when you pick the leaves" ???
I don't think so.
It is based on the post harvest processing -
White: wilted and unoxidized;
Yellow: unwilted and unoxidized but allowed to yellow;
Green: unwilted and unoxidized;
Oolong: wilted, bruised, and partially oxidized;
Black: wilted, sometimes crushed, and fully oxidized;
Old comment but it's a mix of a few factors, and he isn't completely wrong either.
What differentiates white tea from green tea is when the leaves are picked, as white tea consists of the young buds.
Is there anything else I should know? This thread is very interesting
@@ivanlagrossemoule That's not correct, certain whites like silver needle are all buds, but there are leafy-er whites like gong mei and shou mei. You can also make an all bud green tea. The difference is in the processing.
Me: That looks like Luke but it say's Larry's and this isn't MIGardener channel. *clicks* IT IS LUKE!!!
Where can I get tea seeds?
Are you still planting?
What is the name of the plant?
Um, the tea plant can survive cold just fine, to an extent. In my area of the USA (zone 7) it will do just fine outside in the ground all year. If it's in a pot though, it will need to come indoors.
I've got one growing outside in zone 8b. It easily survives winters that dip to the mid teens. I thought they like acidic soil also so I've been fertilizing with pine needles. Seems to be growing well.
Your domain expired
Wait... isn't this Luke from MIGardener? is this before he started MIGardener? wow cool!
thanks!
Hey its the MI gardener
What kind of soil should I use?
Good info! Quick question: do you have an oolong plant, or a black tea plant, or a green tea plant? Thanks!
Hi thanks for sharing. I would love to buy some. Are the tea plants organic or are they sprayed with any sprays or chemicals?
What is the tea plant name please? Is it camellia sinesis?
Yes
so much for the website
Can it grow in PH 🇵🇭 weather? Tropical average of 29°C
It can probably grow in Batanes, Baguio, Benguet, Bukidnon or any highlands with cool weather.
Ok i was interested in making my own tea. But you lost me at "the time you pick the leaves determines the type of tea" 😅😂 Im sorry but i dont have time for that. Im going back to buying tea at the the store. This was a very interesting and informing video tho. Thumbs up!👍
What is so complicated about that?
+zach olson Picking and drying leaves at a certain time to get a certain type of tea
He's actually incorrect about that; picking time is important, but the type of tea is determined by processing, which unfortunately is even more complicated :(
Neither link works anymore 😭 still a good video though, thank you!
Will this grow in NE TN?
Do you sell Mangosteen plant?
I may or may not have a tea addiction (yes) so dude yes I won’t be spending so much money on tea each week
When I clicked on your site, it says "the domain has expired."
Hey bro, your last video was 6 years ago. If you still have passion for this topic you should come back. You'll do pretty well now that youtube promotes content like these.
What kind of leaves should I buy for matcha
when do harvest
What kind of tea sub species can survive zone 5A
It's LUKE!!!
lemonbalm plant.
😮it’s luke
Now I know how I can grow my own black tea. What about orange pekoe? I'd like to be able to make tea like the famous Lip... company but without the GMO and chemicals they add
River Prepper Orange pokoe is a specific leaf grade. There was a minor error in the video, its how you process the leaves the determines the type of tea you get. There are some (Japanese) teas that are different because they are harvested during different times of the year (Bancha for instance). upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Black_tea_grading.jpg Grading of different leaves. High quality Black tea is made from terminal buds, sightly high quality black tea is made from 1 bud and 1 leaf, next down is 1 bud + 2 leaves, and the lower quality is made from either 1 bud + 3 leaves or just three leaves and no buds. Lipton's tea is basically floor sweepings. It's the left overs of the above tea processing. It's the lowest of the low called "Fannings". :(
okay thank you. I live in the northeast US. What is a good tea that I can grow in my yard
I would try for Chinese tea plants ( camellia sinensis large leaf form or the yunanensis), Russian tea plants ( ex soviet Georgia or Sochi varieties), or Tibet/Nepal/Darjeeling tea plants. Those would be closer to your environment, I would suggest avoiding assamica which is not frost hardy nor the Japanese or small leaf form as they are also not frost hardy and have thin delicate leaves. So you want: camellia sinensis v. Large leaf form, camellia sine sis v. Sochi, or camellia sinensis yunnanensis ( sp?). I don't know the scientific names of the others. Avoid: camellia sinensis assamica/camellia assamica, camellia sinensis v. Small leaf, or camellia sinensis v. Yabukita/c.s.v. zairai ( Japanese varieties, highly unlikely to even see these for sale).
Okay, thank you so much ! !
@@Acleanblankslate that explains why I hate Lipton. Thanks
Did Larry file for bankruptcy? As another person said, the website is offline.
will chicken chit work as a fertilizer?
MegaMackproductions yes!
***** thanks for the information, we have a lot of it since we keep around 60 hens, so we have mounds of it we use to grow vegetables. can you keep them well indoors and how big will they get?
22 dollars for one plant !?! Is that expensive or am I just cheap?
You can buy one big tea plant at Lowe's in FL for $13 but not sure if it the same variety used by Lipton.