The Future of Car Collecting | CURATED Podcast
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- In this special episode of the CURATED Podcast, we dive deep into the future of car collecting with an all-star panel of automotive experts. Join us as we explore what will inspire the next generation of collectors and the cars that will become the icons of tomorrow.
Our guests include:
• Zack Klapman and Matt Farah from @TheSmokingTire, who bring their journalistic perspective of the automotive industry.
• Aaron Weiss from the Concours Club, offering his unique perspective on the high-end automotive lifestyle.
• Ed Bolian from VinWiki, sharing his insights on car storytelling and the evolving landscape of automotive history.
• Aloisa Ruf from RUF, providing an inside look at what makes certain vehicles timeless and the future of bespoke automotive design.
• Brett David from Prestige Imports, discussing the market trends and what will drive future collectors.
In this episode, we cover:
• The evolution of car collecting and what cars will be sought after in the coming decades.
• How technology, sustainability, and shifting cultural values will influence the cars that collectors crave.
• The impact of electric and hybrid vehicles on the collector car market.
• Predictions on future classic cars and how today’s enthusiasts are shaping tomorrow’s collections.
Whether you’re a seasoned collector or just getting started, this conversation offers invaluable insights into the next era of automotive passion. Don’t miss out on this engaging discussion with some of the most respected voices in the industry!
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In the constant pursuit of pairing the world’s best automobiles with the world’s best collectors, CURATED Miami has specialized in Vintage Blue Chip European Automobiles since 2016 - specifically low production cars built by the likes of Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche, Jaguar, Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and more. CURATED continues to pave the way for the next generation of collectors chasing the “poster cars” of their youth. Co-founder John Temerian, often called the Indiana Jones of car collecting, truly understands the importance of history, details, and provenance and CURATED is dedicated to educating and supporting new custodians, empowering them to preserve and celebrate these rare icons. Known for our inventory of some of the most rare examples of Ferarris and Lamborghinis ever produced, CURATED has a passionate global following, comprised of enthusiasts, experts, influencers and celebrities.
The GranTurismo/duPont Registry/MTV Cribs/Top Gear generation is well represented here!
Ed the one thing about the zonda is Lewis had one! And crashed it and the new owner crashed it last year. If it’s still alive add it to the garage!
@@racekorthings7165do you think Ed has at least £15,000,000 spare fore a car?
Matt's line '400 grand for a chevelle, get the f*ck out of here' had me in stitches🤣
😂😂😂
@@ClinicalDecisionYikesYTwhat makes you say that?
And then there’s guys like me that remember how impressive a 69 big block Chevelle was…and a Lamborghini Miura you couldn’t give away.
I think the next generation of collectors will look to cars in matching specs to video game cover cars and cars featured on shows like Top Gear.
Don’t agree with that really, I don’t think there’s any iconic cars bars the F&F R34 for our age group.
Trends change by the decade. It will be 00s analogue cars. Also the USA 25yr import rule also brings prices up for the rest of the world. In Europe it will be 00s hothatches Clio 182 trophy, Ford Racing Puma, Focus RS500 also M3 Manuel's and stuff like that.
Supercars will always be the last v12s or anything special obviously before we get all these new hybrid/electric stuff. The original tesla roadster would be a good shout if your that way inclined 😂
That’s not happening
@@Rocky-hh3ygI’m 22 and the iconic cars for us are more like initial D
Next gen is gonna be dead broke I’m afraid.
Aloisa involvement in the car community is unheard of, she is amazing
This was a ton of fun. Thanks so much for having us.
Ed the one thing about the zonda is Lewis had one! And crashed it and the new owner crashed it last year. If it’s still alive add it to the garage! (Yes I copied this from my vinwiki comment, I didn’t see your personal account comment:)
You looked like you just wanted this to end after 10 minutes. It went on just a tad or 6, too long.
great Pod
Ed is moves the market after he buys in! 😂
if you just sold your tech startup. retired to miami. and have 10s of millions of dollars to spend on supercars. this conversation is for YOU.
😂😂😂
@@WeAreCuratedIt's a good point. I enjoyed the conversation and it was interesting but for 98% of the time it only was about the most exclusive and exclusive million(s) dollar cars. I know the zonda prices will go completely through the roof. It would've been interesting to hear about 10's and 100's of thousands dollar cars and the prediction of those. that would be more difficult and would open up a discussion witch it lacked now. Never the less I really enjoyed this video.
@@dirkcuypers6669 a lot of those cars aren't limited enough for them to appreciate beyond their likely cost of ownership imo. matt absolutely gave the best advice on what to do for the average car buyer... calculate your cost of ownership and buy what you like that is reasonable. even these people with zondas that will double probably won't make money because they all have spectacular private car storage buildings and stuff that cost 70k a month just to keep the lights on not to mention the opportunity costs. if you're some dude with a two car garage that has an extra spot for a cool car, just pick something reasonable and don't expect it to be your 401k. if you want to make money on cars, go be a car dealer.
Oh shit we get a pod now?! Awesome
One mic is crazy
Yeah wtf coulda made this thing a whole 2 mins shorter
Part of the Gran Tourismo generation. Which basically establsihed my enthusiasm for certain brands and driving attributes. Racing Heritage is relative. People talk trash about Honda's and meanwhile the brand has extensive Formula 1 heritage, endurance racing etc... The magazine for me Motor Trend and TV wih Jim Scoutten. The shoot out with the 355 F1 is a classic to this day.
Ed is super smart and I enjoyed Ms Ruf’s perspective on the panel
Great discussion! Fascinating to see the caliber of cars popping up around LA recently. Looking forward to watching the collector car market evolve in the years to come!
Something to think about that wasn't explicitly talked about is the rarity of the experience a certain car provides. To me the reason zondas, rufs, Cgt's and the F1s are crazy money is they are known for being unbelievable to experience rather than just being numerically rare.
It is understood that car people prefer cars that are both collectible and fun to drive. Of course the rare ones that drive well are the most desirable.
@@Duh_Huh_24 the conversation was about what makes cars valuable. I'm saying the rarity of the experience is the main contributing factor. When everyone started saying the f50 was the better car to drive compared to the f40, values changed and now f50s are twice the price. People started talking about the experience in a different way.
@@davidhebrank9946 I agree.There are number of factors at play. Using your examples...
The f40 was an instant cult classic and people were collecting them while f50 production was still underway. The f40 was never known as a great driving car and they made 4 times as many as the f50. Ferrari collectors eventually started grabbing the rarer f50 for their collections and the values spiked. As companies make fewer v12 cars you'll eventually see the values of all v12's skyrocket.
Ferrari is unique in that their home office in Italy determines who gets allocations for new cars. They reward their collectors with allocations of their future cars so if you wanted the la ferrari, or want the daytona sp2 or the next hypercar you need a full collection to even be considered.
Love all the people in this video, we want more!
the mic setup is great, it prevents people from talking over each other. in this group, it would be accidental, but still it's a good way keep the pacing and give space to what people say.
What a great group and I am sure it will be a great discussion!
Many smart considerations there.....Going in all directions. Not easy to predict everything. But the visceral experience is probably important. I don`t think stupid politicians are able to ban older cars ( they don`t contribute to CO2 because they are so few). So I think it will be possible to drive sportscars in the future also. So as you say: visceral, something that can be used/ maintained a bit easily, looks, sound. But I guess for the REALLY rich people the can also take the cars that aren`t easy to maintain. I have no idea!
I drove my Mercedes AMG GTR with DCT today. I enjoy that car equally to my Diablo 6.0 or Ferrari 512 TR when it comes to driving. There is more mystique to the Italian cars, though. But I believe the Mercedes AMG GTR can ALSO be a collector car in the future. But no electric car. No! not possible. The Rimac will be a 100 000 USD car someday 🤪
You are wrong. In my university time i looked forward to the nevera release from rimac. I am now a CTO an in the future i will Pick one Up for cheap and my Colleges will too. An that will Push the price.
Also i belive the will be Aftermarket battery packs and engines that will modernise these cars to the standard of 20 years in future.
And batterys will be cheap und netter in the future. Trust me i know.
I love my 944 Turbo and Alfa gtv6 too. No fear for the future we will keep them in the street with gasoline. In the worst case with bio or synthetic fuel
This is probably not what most people think of but when I see car collecting in the future, I don't just see what the richest are gonna have but I also see what the average person will have like your Porsche 944 or you're early 2000 mini Coopers or BMW M 3's stuff like that would be more attainable to the average person.
Excellent video, really appreciate the different opinions and conversation. I can totally relate, as a kid with a subscription to Road & Track I eagerly awaited each issue, which ignited my passion for cars.
I would love to hear your opinion on cars that have mass popularity on social media today, 911 GT3 RS, Supra, etc, and how it will affect long-term pricing/collectability. Kids growing up today, seeing GT3 RS edits may have the same effect as a Countash poster on a wall.
The cars you mention have been appreciating in value
i think the early GT3RSs will appreciate, but the newer one they are making a ton of. Early RS models are more limited.
I think a rare color e90 m3 would be a great car to buy and hold on to. Kids watch guys like Adam LZ and want the same cars as them
Loving new type of content!
Thank you all! The shout out to Freddie was cool.
J.T.What a great host with the most🤟
Most interesting discussion i've seen in a long time. Most manufacturers need to see it to understand how wrong they have been for the last 5 years at least!
Keep it up!
Aloisa has a voice like silk. Car girl crush.
One thing you could have mentioned; Who will maintain the cars in the future? A lot of mechanics that have knowledge about older cars are retiring. The XJ220 will be maintained by Don Law and sons in Britain for instance, and Porsches are so plentiful that it will never be a huge problem. But experts on tuning a Countach or 512 BBi....what is the future there? That`s one thing I have thought about. I guess there will be fewer experts and you will in greater extent need to transport your car several hours to have it maintained.
We have an interesting documentary we're putting together that touches on this!
I think, if you want to drive it you have to consider the market for parts, and wear and tear item replacements. Really impressed to hear this conversation. A lot of food for thought here
thanks for tuning in! Absolutely a worthy consideration
Great podcast/video! First time watching
Manual Porsche's with naturally aspirated GT engines will always hold if not appreciate. The writing is on the wall that Porsche won't continue the manual for much longer - they are moving upmarket and the competitors at the top tier sports car manufacturers have already removed the manual options (Ferrari, Lambo, Aston, etc.) so with the low take rate, the bean counters are already trying to say it's not worth the development / certification / crash testing required to offer manuals. I suspect nicely spec'ed 991.2 GT3's will do particularly well - with PCCB's, buckets, full leather, FAL and particularly PTS. I think the floor will occur in the next 1-2 years for those cars and then it's just up from there particularly because of the 4.0L, smaller body, 5 analog gauges and 2 year production run.
That’s so much nonsense. Porsche listen to their customers. Idiots have been saying since the 911R that Porsche won’t make anymore manuals. It’s hilarious. Porsche will continue to offer a manual version for the 911 for as long as there’s a call for one, and that call isn’t going away anytime soon.
What a stupid comment. 😂😂😂 more like the whining is on your wall.
As someone currently looking forward to the day to having disposable income, personally, I find the new era of coach building of singers, and even Guntherworks really enticing. It will need to be dependent if they survive, and the service will still be able to be completed by the manufacturer, but for me personally some of these coach building projects are very interesting as “halo cars”.
At first, I hated this one mic setup , but in a weird way it was a pleasant change of the way I watch podcasts. Huge fan of all of you. Keep up the content.👌
Thanks for watching Zach!
Loved this and the panel of people. More please.
More to come!
Wow wow wow fantastic 👍👍👍👍👍
Ed is a Mechanical Engineer he gets it, if it wasn’t for engineers there’d be no cars…
Rimac can’t sell Nevera, in the future when fixing electronics is easy, could be super collectable. Follows same trend as many of the other ahead of their time cars. That said, right now I’d rather a Pagani or Koeniggsegg. Great show I walk by curated all the time and I’m def one of the dreamers 🙏
feel free to come in and check it out!
@@WeAreCurateddefinitely will! By the way, I live in Design District and watching them set up the event was mind blowing. If you want to see the future of the car enthusiast, all you need to do is walk around for 10 mins. There are dozens of 10-15 year old kids with video cameras recording everything. Different time than we studying 0-60 times in Road and Track as a kid 🤣🤣
At 19:15 Zack Klapman is a living legend?
Best place for cars😮
19:04 what the hell is a “pinnacle of transformation?”. All this word salad. Stop faffing.
Incredible content, keep it up!
That curated guy on the left just seems like a scammer
Typical used car salesmen 😂
Loved this episode
I think guys are going to buy what they like and not be influenced by TH-camrs trying to analyse cars according to what will benefit themselves!
top end cars will become museum pieces
Social media is what’s going to be the driver for the next collector car and sim racing. But EV/green politics will dictate the future.
Shout out to Tavarish, battery delete P1, let's go baby!
haha legendary!
@@WeAreCurated Tavarish avantgarde trendsetter, who knew?
I don’t think Lamborghini will ever be over Ferrari and I love both, Ferrari way more.
That was a really great and legendary discussion.
Not a fan of movie-length talks, unless it's with people like that. Worth every second!!
I just subbed because I'm an Ed/vinwiki fan.
9hrs and no traction on this one. WTF!?
Technology has kept the majority from stuff 40yrs or less without a carb.
Aloisa RUF!!! I am so jealous of what she's seen!!
Welcome, thanks for the sub! More of these to come
If you think this is a long discussion, you need to restore your attention span from the present low of goldfish levels.
@@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT I'll bite on those flakes.
Please fill me in, Your Majesty!
Attention span isn't an issue and it could have been longer.
The "Present" is about the quality of the group and the content I like to hear about.
Where's your voices in the industry?
I'm here
The next trend will be cars from the late 90s Earl 2ks when thay could be fixed and tinkerd with. Modern cars are disposable appliances.
These guys all looked bored or annoyed
Aloisa carried
Anything with Fatt Marah is an instant fail.
Loved the videos from all of you, I would prefer the original Ruf 964 😊 Matt you ok man? There is no next new, it’s the same cars car guys and girls girls lust after.. Ed hit the nail on the head with battery circumventing
Thank you!
Can't get through one podcast without Farah whining about money.
41:16 Upcoming... FD, R34 etc are current.
We are ………
The floor of an electric car is not 0. Hell, even orig Tesla Roadsters are going up in value a lot as they are classics now.
If i win the lotto vurated will be my first stop 😊
See you here!
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so the future is ....get LC500 and enjoy it for 15 years ........
normal ICE car collecting is going to die under EV threat
As a 21 Gen Z I do think where still gonna have an appropriation for cars that are coming out now and the old stuff as always wether if it’s 80’s Euro cars, 90’s JDM cars, post 2010’s Domestic cars, or any supercar regardless what decade. What I think will influence my generation is definitely what you guys said video games, social media, our favorite automotive TH-camrs, and to some extent seeing our favorite artists like (Travis Scott, Asap Rocky, Tyler The Creator, and Xavier Wulf) weather if it’s there personal car or used in their music video. That being said my generation will be going after the same cars that Millennial car enthusiasts grew up with 90’s JDM cars, post 2010’s BMW’s, newer Lamborghini and Ferrari models, E30 BMW, 190E Mercedes, MK5 Supra, R35 GT-R, GR-Corolla, C7/C8 Corvette, Hellcat Chargers/Challengers, 6th Gen Camaro ZL1/ZL1 1LE, Porsche 911 GT3RS, and Audi R8 V10
As a very late millennial/early gen z im doing my damndest to keep gen z priced out of any market i enjoy being in.
@@VolvosandHondas honestly I don’t blame you, respect to that
Aaron is a very handsome daddy! i had to say it!
No you had to say absolutely nothing.
Spyker 😂😂😂😂😂
I can tell you what won’t be collectors items. Stupid electric cars
i8 Roadster 👀
Hold my beer 🍺
I see Farrah...I dislike
Fatt Marah
Man he is so humble and doesn’t like to hear himself talk ……….😂