Arrma FireTeam with new Max6 G2 1650kV Combo
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- Arrma FireTeam with new Max6 G2 1650kV Combo.
Welcome back, my Arrma FireTeam is getting a upgrade and makeover this is a three part series. This video is part 1of that upgrade/makeover, installing the Max6 G2 1650kV combo and first run. This video is about 22min long 3 battery packs (actual video is 45/50+min) so I tried to get as much information and run time as possible. In my opinion this new combo from HW is a game changer for 6th and 7th scale RC that do not need a 8mm motor shaft. The FireTeam went through a lot during this video and the only thing I needed to replace was the front diff cover (cracked). I hope you enjoy the video, please leave your comments below on what you think about the New Hobbywing Max6 combo.
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Very nice indeed Al nice bit of kit .
Nice walk through on the set up it's definitely a very lively one but slow control it's pretty good also now you can crawl 😂
They might have a point 😂😂😂😂! Keep that way from you 😉🤣 .
Superb air!! Keep up the great videos and laughs 👍😎💪🏼
Hi Fonzie, thanks for the wonderful comment, I really appreciate it and the support. The FireTeam was due for a new makeover and upgrade. This is what it needed to keep it interesting, the new esc and motor is quick to respond, now I have to learn control with the throttle. Take care and best wishes to you and the family💯💯💯👍👍
I believe this will be my next upgrade 😁 have done every aluminum part they make for it and hardened cv shafts all over. Great review. I want 😉
I have had this since it came out and really have not had any issues with it since. This is the only major upgrade I have done with it and it has been through some tough driving. Granted not skatepark action or 30 feet launches but it has had it's share of rough landings
That is a great combination motor and esc. It's a beast
JoevsRc, thanks for that awesome comment, and for watching the video. I think this is the best combination motor and esc for the FireTeam. You can fine tune the esc and motor on how you run. 💥💥
@sparetimerc I have the Gen 1 1650 hobbywing combo in my Mojave exb on 8s and it's unstoppable
@@JoevsRc I will run it on 8s during a speed run but for now I am happy with how it performs on 6s. But that Mojave must be a beast on the streets
It was ripping out there! Those high speed wheelie to backflip chaos was crazy! That is some serious power! Poor thing went home with a squished booty! I am sure the rebuild will get it all right and rocking again! Take care Al and have a great weekend!
I really didn't expect the new combo to give it so much power, those high speed wheelies was only at like 75% throttle. I have to learn to control the throttle input, the esc is quick to respond to how much or how less throttle you give. But this is the perfect setup for my FireTeam. Thanks you for watching and for leaving that awesome comment, means a lot to me.💯💯💯💥👍👍
That combo brought the best out of this rc
Hi UrbanLegend, thanks for watching the video and for leaving your comment, I think this combo from HW is a game changer for any 7th scale vehicle, especially the 7th scales that have a little more weight like the FireTeam. 👍👍
what an amazing bit of kit,super impressive, fantastic rip mate,brilliant 😃👍👍👍
RCplaytime, thanks for that wonderful comment and for stopping by to watch the video. I think the FireTeam has new life in it now. Take care and best wishes to you💯💯💯
Great run👍 That is the best setup for the Fireteam and maybe even the Big Rock 6S. I love watching the control in the air with that setup. Great work!
Thank you ReadySet, now I just need to control my response with the throttle, this system is quick to react to any input. I think the new Max6 G2 combo is great for any 7th scale RC, that's just my opinion. Thanks for taking time to watch the video and for leaving that awesome comment. Did you see the new 7th scale street truck from FSR, Model DT. I just ordered one. Truly appreciate your support💯💯💯
Wowzers what a beast!!!
Those are sweeet rigs.
What a motor and esc!!!
Hello RCarty, I would have to agree. The new HW Max6 G2 combo is a game changer for the 7th scale RCs. 💥💥💥💥💥
Great runwith the Fireteam Al! It rips for sure!👍😀🇸🇪🇺🇸
Hey Peter, I'm so sorry, I thought I had commented. Thanks for watching and for leaving that wonderful comment. I think this is the perfect setup for the FireTeam. It does rip for sure💥💥💥💥💥
That’s the perfect combo for this truck
Thanks Thad, I think it a great match for the FireTeam💯💯
awesome upgrade and cool run
Hello Duke, thanks for stopping by to watch the video and leaving a comment. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, I think this is the perfect match for this vehicle. Take care and best wishes to you and your family.👍👍👍
great upgrades champ🤩🏆
Thanks G.B. I really appreciate your support and awesome comments, I think so too. 💯💯💯💯💯
That's an amazing RC car
Hi G9RCar, I appreciate you stopping by to watch the video and for the great comment. It means a lot to me. Take care and best wishes to you.💥💥💥💥👍
G'day Al, What a mean looking beast👌😂. That new system is awesome, crazy power.
Thanks for sharing your video mate, We hope you have a great weekend👍🦘🇦🇺
Hi Outback RC, Thanks for watching the video I really appreciate it. Also thank you for the wonderful comment. I hope that you and Ingrid had a smile while watching the video. It's may take the place of Arrma Notorious as my go to basher. I hope the two of you have a wonderful weekend. Take care and best wishes to you and Ingrid 💯💯💯💯👍👍
@sparetimerc
Thanks Al, We definitely had a smile watching your video, hearing you laugh even brings a smile 🤣👍. Ingrid also sends regards . Keep smiling👌
Great combo. I'm areal fan of the bluetooth adjustments
Hi Dirk, I think it's a great combo also, the bluetooth makes it easy to adjust on the go, without having to plug in a program card or fiddle with the set and on/off button. Thanks for watching and for leaving a wonderful comment. Take care and keep the Crawler Course going. (LOOKIING GOOD!!!!!!!) 💯💯💯💯💯💯
WOW that's some power .I can see me breaking that 1st rip.
Awesome channel.
RCbeast, I pretty sure the FireTeam is tougher than you think. Thanks for watching and leaving that great comment👍👍👍
Great upgrade and Bash Al it's ripping
Hey Thompson, thanks for watching and leaving a great comment. I'm hoping to get this done before it gets to cold and wet. Take care 💯💯💯
Cool vid🎉
Hi Aftermathmotomxrc, thanks for stopping by to watch the video and for leaving a awesome comment. Take care and best wishes.💥💥💥
From what I understand, this new 1650kv motor is OFFICIALLY capable of 8s now. ?? Definitely my cup of tea. This is even better for 8s runners like me with a heavy M2C upgraded K6 who likes the sensored stuff. Going sensored was smart on HW's part, because it certainly does make ya' want the proprietary waterproof sensored motor with temp sensing and all that. Anything built up and heavy for 1/8th, or even stock 7th scale runs with less strain and heat with this upgrade. Great for Fireteam, the new Big Rock, and X-Maxx with the larger motor option.
All-is-Grass, welcome back, yes this new combo is capable of running 8s. HW did their homework and listened to their customers, I like how much control you have with the throttle, but I will tell you this. This new setup is quick to respond to any throttle input you give it. For the 5th scale Max6 5960, 1250kV would do the X-Max justice. I ran this hard (fist and last time) just to see if I could actually get it to go to thermal shut down (didn't happen) but I'm glad LVC stopped me. I will be venting the new panels to get air to flow better in the FireTeam. Thanks again for watching the video and leaving a awesome comment. Hope you take care and best wishes to you.💯💯💯💯💯
I just ordered mine! Whenever it gets here, it's going into my Mojave. I also ordered the Max5 g2 with the 800kv for my DBXL E.
I'm looking forward to both of them.
Hello Diaszurana, I apologize for the late response, The Mojave is going to be a total beast on road and off road with the Max6 G2 combo and your DBXL E is going to be out of control once you get it in there. just a little advice, do a break in period one battery pack, for 20min just to get everything meshed up. then you can rip all day everyday.
@sparetimerc Thanks for the advice, man. I appreciate it. Let me ask you, what gearing would be best for the Mojave w the 1650kv?
Are you talking about the Mojave 6s or 4s? If its my 6s Mojave I would run 18t, perfect for bashing (temps) since the body holds heat. Temps should be manageable. Do this, put an 18t pinion gear in, run it for 5 minutes, then check the temps are reasonable, and it is performing how you want it 👍. Just need to play around with different gearing. Hope this helps. Take care and stay safe.
@sparetimerc thanks, man! Yeah, it's The 6s. Still IMO the best OTB RC ever made 😀.
This is really nice, Al! I'm definitely interested in following along on your Fireteam project, also the other parts will be interesting for me!
I'm still undecided if I go with same motor combo as you, or I take the lower kV version, and if I do, I might even consider the Max5 combo... I want mine slooow... I got the Integy slow plow for it the other day, haven't managed to fit it yet, looking forward to try it, see how insufficient the stock motor and gearing is for pushing snow, he he...
Have a great weekend there, my friend!
Hi Mads, thank you for watching the video and for the great comment. I still am keeping the FireTeam look (new cage and panels) painted for street runs and getting new panels for the old roll cage for backyard bashing. If you get the Max6 combo get the 5960 (1250kV motor) but I'm not sure it will fit unless you get a different motor mount (I have very to no room from the bottom of the motor to the chassis) a smidge if that. You take care and best wishes to you and the family my friend.👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hi Al, that’s an impressive ESC and motor combination! I really like the Bluetooth connectivity to set the ESC parameters, I also like the control of that sensored ESC, oh and yes…you are dangerous with your rigs 😂😂😂I think as soon as 12s and above become fashionable, your going into the realms of 007 territory 😂😊😂 flying with 4WD 😂😊😂 awesome video, loved listening and watching you put that Arrma FireTeam through its paces 😊😊best wishes to you and the family 😊
Thank you JF for that awesome comment and for watching the video. I am only going to run 8sm for a speed run but other than that I like how it handles on 6s for back 40 bashing. Now I need to learn throttle control since this esc is quick to react to any input you give it (007 territory) I love that one. Take care and best wishes to you and your family as well.💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Fireteam is awesome
Hello Aftermathmotomxrc, glad you like the FireTeam, thanks for stopping by to watch the video, really appreciate it💥💥
Great run! I can judge the quality of the combo with your level of enjoyment, that’s great! Those temps though, sheeeesh! A fan on the can would take care of that though.
Hello GillyboyNY, my opinion this is a game changer for those who want more control and power on their 6th and 7th scale RC. You are absolutely correct concerning the temp, it did not go to thermal shutdown, but yes to high. I have a heatsink on order and I already have a fan ready to install. I really appreciate that you took time out to watch the video and for leaving a awesome comment. Take care and best wishes to you.💯💯💯💯💯💯👍👍
@@sparetimerc welcome! Yeah how did it not shut down? That’s interesting.
It hit LVC, I got back to the workshop and put the batteries on storage. Both batteries were at 2.75 to 2.73.. I honestly don't know why it didn't go to the thermal shutdown. But everything is working as it should.👌
I love my Fireteam . New steering servo after 3 runs . Way better with a Powerhobby servo .
Hi Randall4411, Thanks for stopping by to watch the video and for leaving a wonderful comment. This vehicle was the first RC on my channel, and I will say its one of my favorites the other is my RadNot (Notorious) I am still running original servo in it, but once that goes down I will be switching to one of mu JX servos. Take care and best wishes to you💯💯💯
That's what i'm running you got the smoke😊 Mine is the Gen. One.
In the Mojave.
Hi Milt, thanks for watching the video and leaving a great comment, Max6 1650kV combo is the best setup for the 7th scale RCs. Gen1 is still a awesome. I see that you picked up the new Kraton 8s EXB RTR. Looking good, nice touch with the bottom chassis guard. Take care and best wishes to you and the family👍👍👍
@@sparetimerc You are too awesome fire team is on Beast mode For real for real. I love watching your planning. Your channel's gonna be huge
@@miltbuiltrcMBRC Milt thank you for that, not sure about being huge, I am honored that you would say that, just a small channel trying to make everyone smile.
@sparetimerc This point is, people wanna relax. People wanna have fun people wanna smile you bring that.
Yeah Keep it up bro All my folk am my circle. No who's spare time r c is have a great one
@@miltbuiltrcMBRC Milt thanks for the support and encouraging words, I truly mean that from the bottom of my heart. Appreciate all the support.
Temps at 170 to 220 are close to the tolerance level but you should be good. But one thing I want to point out is that you should measure your center diff temp as well..I upgraded to these motors too for my Kraton and my center diff got up to 230 degrees after about 3 runs 20 minutes each. So I upgraded to metal center diffs to prevent any plastic melting.
Hello Rogerrabbit, I like that. You are correct about the center diff temp, the metal center diff is included in the upgrade, it will be here when the new body and roll cage get in. I like when others keep me in check, really appreciate it. Take care and best wishes to you.👍👍👍👍👍💯
Very nice build and video footage.
What pinion would you recommend and did you add a fan or change something on the differentials?
Hello Reho6760, If you are looking to have fun and not overheat the motor I would recommend a 18t pinion gear. I have fans on all my RCs, so that I can keep them cool when I run them in the warm weather and not worry to much about thermal shutdown. Now as far as differentials it depends on how you drive I use thicker in the center 500 or 1M, in this one I use 1m with 250k mixed in the center and 30k in the front and 20k in the rear. That's how I like to set up my 7th scale RCs. Thanks for watching and for leaving that awesome comment. Take care and stay safe
Wow she is moving
Hello RC-OPs thanks for stopping by to watch the video and for the awesome comment. It's got more speed and power now, just need to learn the throttle control with it now.💯💯💯
Which pinion would you recommend for this ESC/motor setup on the new Big Rock 6s?
Hello My. Titanium, Since the stock gearing is 13t pinion and 50t spur, if you keep the spur and go up to 18t pinion you should be fine. That is just my opinion others may say 20t but then you risk making the sensor work harder to keep the esc cooler. I am running a 22t pinion and a 46t spur in the FireTeam and in this video I ran 3 battery packs through it with out any breaks (except to change out the batteries) Like I said again that is just my opinion. Once Arrma get the kink out of the Motor/ESC issue I will order one. Thanks for stopping by to watch the video and for leaving a great comment/question. 💥💥💥💥💥👍👍
If you run that system on 8s an 20t pin it would run cooller an be just as fast. Im looking forward to trying this same sysen in my Mojave/og big rock body custom rig. It running old max6 with a rocket 1100kv 4585 an its fun. But i have to run 8s to keep it cool an have good top speeds. And still want more top speed. So time to kv up to the 1650 g2 syatem.
Hello Mike, I wanted to say thank you for stopping by to watch the video and for leaving me a great comment. This run was to see how far I could push the new HW Max6 G2 combo befor it went into thermal shutdown. I will say I like this combo, and my plans are to put it into other 7th scale rc after I have ran them with stock electronics. I'm going to head over to your channel and check it out. Take care and stay safe
Will the programming box off v1 work on these new one to set up modes
Hello 10krms54, I am sorry to say that the programming box will not work with the new Max6 esc, there is now port for the program box. It is all Bluetooth. Sorry 😞
What gearing you running ?
Hello 23Allenrj, thanks for watching and asking, I am running a 22t pinion.
How do you turn on the fail safe? I'm about to install mine today.
You should be able to set fail safe through your transmitter
What kind of run times with this big set up?
With fully charged good high capacity, high-c rating (100/120C), you can get roughly 20min
Did this work with stock motor mount?
Hello Redreefbud, This will work with stock motor mount, no need to change unless you want to.
drop the pinion down two teeth , and put dual fans on that motor
Hello Damaylaphoneix, Thank you for stopping by to watch the video and for the awesome comment. I ran the FireTeam with 3 battery (roughly 45-50min run time) pack with the cooling time of the battery change. I did put a 40mm fan and heatsink on it and the temps are good now. I wanted to see how far I could take the new Hobbywing Max6 until it went to thermal shutdown (didn't) like I mentioned in the video that is the first and last time I do that with the FireTeam.
What pinion?
Running a 22t pinion gear, with 46t spur
@@sparetimerc what is the stock spur?
Yo where are you located
I am located in Virginia.
@sparetimerc I was asking because I saw that track in the background I would have liked to race they but I'm in Ga
@@GAPreviewsAtoZ Hey GAP if your ever in VA, give me a shout,