Comedy And Chaos In Parliament: EFF vs FF Plus And COPE
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Parliament of South Africa - “To represent the people, and to ensure government by the people in fulfilling our constitutional functions of passing laws and overseeing executive action”. Parliament: Debate on urgent matter of national public importance (EFF Dr Ndlozi): The plight of Fees Must Fall activists. *****
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Perfect examples of why this country has failed.
You mean fuckt
Honorable Wessels, I respect you, well done
He is a bit of a dweeb, but he spoke very well!
worse comes to worse when s.a collapses he can get a role in a harry potter movie
Jesus, Ndlozi and the EFF are such babies. He and his entourage are always insulting people and when someone so much as fail to call someone ‘Honourable’ and they immediately get up in arms. It’s sad seeing so much support for the EFF’s ‘fighting’ when they just throw tantrums (the DA do to but they do get criticised for it)
They always talk about what money COULD HAVE paid for. All of us know it would not have been used in education, because it never does.
I feel so bad for the true victims! The South African citizen ( regardless of skin color) who will soon feel the pangs of hunger! 🙏👈
Yeah in fact our land is gonna turn into a civil war place with the things going on here.
Ndlozi is a Dr. behaving like an undergrad, some people just don't grow up
Good old selective hearing.......useless!
That is how ignorant people react ....BURN EVERYTHING !!!!
Why cant the EFF allow Honorable Wessels to Speak like they were allowed to speak. Let him Raise his Point
Because he is piece of shit!!!
Massa's tongue just soothes your soul, huh? The devils words move you, huh?
You're a Discredit to your race.
@@emmanuelkhuzwayo3555 LoL. Really now. I didnt know he is or was
@@monkhworth1030 I think before one acts allow him to speak. Then raise a point.
Because they know what he is saying is true, and they don't want to hear it.
Lekota is my hero
cannot withdraw the truth. sic burns.
the people in the red krismis father suits are childish! funny
I'm not familiar with the S.A parliament but these people in red seem to so talkative.
Emfrickenbarrassing. What happened to my country? Is this what I voted for in 1992?
*1994😗
They should make the following rules:
1) Members that speak or interrupt the speaker should be given 3 warning, and then be asked to leave the house.
2) If you interrupt someone to "raise a point of order", only to say something that is not a real point of order, your party should be banned from raising any further points of order while the current speaker speaks. That should motivate that party to practice some internal discipline.
No, members are treated as individual members of parliament, so your propositions would hinder freedom of individual dignity.
@@nitromania5827 Why should they be treated as individual members of parliament? They were not elected as individual members as is the case in the Brittish electoral system, they are elected as members of a party that was voted for. That's also why parties get to dictate to their members how they should vote. As an MP, you are not there to represent yourself as an individual, you're there to represent the party which 40 000 people voted for.
@Hannodb1961 no, maybe in Britain they do that, but not here. In South africa you have a house consisting of members of parliaments. If what you are saying was the case then when the presiding officer were to chase out a member of the EFF for example, then they would be forced to chase out the whole EFF because they are associated with that member. They don't work like that, and that fact alone defeats your argument.
@@nitromania5827 And that is how it is suppose to be.
In the Brittish system, the country is divided into constituencies, and parties have to appoint a candidate for each constituency. Effectively, people vote for the candidate as much as, if not more than his party. That's why in the Brittish system, a candidate has the right to cross the floor to another party, because the mandate belongs to him, not to his party.
In our system, people don't vote for the MP, they just vote for the party, and the party sets up a proportional list of representatives. No one in parliament has a personal mandate to be there, every last one of them are there because people voted for their party. That's why we don't have floor crossings in South Africa. The party should therefore rightly be able to tell their MP's how to behave and how to vote. If not, then that is a betrayal of the electorate who voted for that party, and a left over from the Brittish system that shouldn't exist anymore.
And yes, if one party member does not behave, and the party whip refuses to exercise party discipline, then the entire party should be kicked out.
@Hannodb1961 no, every member of parliament has the right to vote for the option of their own choice, whether the party agrees or not. These motions that you are proposing don't exist in the current rules, that's the point I'm making. Every member has the right to individual dignity and liberty. I disagree with your view but I respect it.
.... In EFF we believe....
No no no the eff is crap.
He stole money from the poor
.... Dr Ndlozi and Floyd..... Hehehehehehehe....
lol. Dishonourable Malema. haha
Its a circus
FierceDeadlock its a circus with a bunch of clowns
Politicians are always talking about would/could be done with money if no one is does anything wrong and never actually doing right with the money they have.
I like how this white guy is playing the EFF card.
You can't blame him when the EFF makes it so easy.
Its Africa ... Fight.. For it .. Its not europe... Africa for African...
For a member of a Boer nationalist party, MP Wessels is quite civil and decent. Not the typical brainless hooligan-bully inbred type or the fascist cold-blooded conservative type, that we know so well. I actually agree with some of his points. The "culture" of destroying property as a form of protest has to stop! In a democracy people need to utilise civil forms of protest.
@Hans Franz - Uhm, as a member of the FF+ for almost 20 years - who also despised the bombastic AWB culture of the far right, I can tell you this has ALWAYS been the rule, not the exception in the FF+. You should've heard dr Pieter Mulder. What a statesman, what a gentleman he was. Do consider voting for them next year: The bigger the FF+ are, the more influential they'll be if we get a coalition government. The DA has become ANC-Lite, because it didn't mind sacrificing its principles on the altar for greater numbers. That's why they were fighting Patricia de Lille for 3 years without ever explaining why: factionalism.
These people in red jumpsuits are silly children. Why does the Parliament put up with such idiotic - actually spiteful idiocy.
I am not going to watch this silly SA Parliament again! It is amusing, but very sad.
What the heck is lekota wearing.....
Lecota should be president mans got it to be 1
If Lekota becomes president, South Africa might have a future. It just depends on what the youth respond to: reason or feelings?
@@Hannodb1961 depends on how you look at it coz most of the ppl are being brainwashed on the land story its all lies so only the ppl who are honest and believe in a future will vote for him
Steen-something is like the annoying snitch in class
Disgracefull no respect shown to lekota. He is deserving of respect.
What did Lekota say? 🤔
he laughed
The EFF conduct themselves like 3 year olds, and then are offended when people treat them like 3 year olds.
The Lord of the Thieves Shadow of Parliament.
Our parliament is basicly lawlessness🤦
Someone who acted like the EFF for once
The displeasure of looking at the clowns, tearing each other apart, name calling, plain schoolyard bullying tactics, is nothing but laughable and shows how stupid they are to fight over who is making the loudest noise. As South African, we have every right to boycott this behaviour before it deteriorate to the lowest levels. Here are the proposed ways to control this mess. One refuse to honour paying tax that helps these fools to thrive. 2. To make public protest of this degeneration of the decorum of parliament. 3 To educate these anarchists, how are they expected to behave in an acceptable manner.4 To chase them away whenever they try to address the public, until they look and sort out their behavior within the Parliamentery presinct.5 To campaign for the bar to be moved out of parliament, and bring breathalyser to test the level of alcohol consumption during when their entry and time they know off from parliament. To introduce point system like that of driver's license system, as the MP behave badly certain score points are taken away from scoreboard, if it gets to 10, she or gets fired from Parliament.
Another point scoring should be about the quality of the debate, readiness to tackle issues of national important in a way that is learnedly,in arguing the points of politics. Corruption scoreboard points on the parties represented in Parliament, to be stripped of points due to corruption, and be relegated to the thin margins in terms of numbers, the punitive measure that should take two terms of the financial year. To fire those who are corrupt in the spot and public make a mockery of them, which need to be followed by criminal charges with no defence.And reviewing of public money usage in all government spheres and public parading those who have stolen public money and written of their name to the Public Wall of Shame whilst being paraded there for the entire sentenced passed by the courts working without pay, for every 3 hours on day, members of the public are offered a chance to view these people, and say whatever abusive word to these scums.Those who have money can hire them to do hard labour without pay, except giving them food, and return for public parading each day.But a campaign need to be started by non aligned politically individuals.
Complete pukup to put it short
Lawlessness parlement
It was nice to see someone talk to the EFF like they were nothing more than a bunch of clowns.
Yet another absolute disgraceful behavior
Free education means the govt pays with borrowed money and the next generation somehow pays it back with interest
Role comedy courtesy of the S.A parliament.
I think we just found Greta Thunbergs snotty little brother 😂
Lol😂
😂😂😂
Lack of respect for the speaker shows weak character. Plain and simple. When one talks you shut up until it's your turn or he derails too much from topic. I learned that in grade 2, GRADE 2. Here the leaders of a country doesn't understand a primary school concept.
"GO TO ORANIA!!!"
............Okay no problem
Hopelik sal iemand daar vir Broer Wessels ietsie gee om te eet.
Yes, shame. Pitiful when "Go to one of the few functioning towns in South Africa" is the best insult the EFF can come up with.
is it a "GROUP" or "TROOP" - this SA parliament is a phucking joke -
Wtf is all I can say...
that moment when.the lier lied... Ndlozi u killed me. No!😂😂😂😂
liar
EFF is embarrassing
Horrible julius malema
Hahaha
Horrible member, withdraw,
Lekota speaks with real Superior Logic
eff all on cell phones they are not interisted
Point of order. Stand up ask dummiest question smilling. And sit. This is madness. What kids at school are learning on this joke call parliament. What they are learning watching this???
This is soo dummy. Crazy and stupid. Is it really a parliament or a kindergarten ???
Funny
Whiteness is rising!!
M.L.E Channel
Fucking hilarious!
Lol this is just childish. Nobody listens to anybody. What a mess, am happy Tanzanian parliament is not that rediculous
When South Africa implement EWC, and our economy collapse like in Zimbabwe, and these entitled brats then come running to your country as "economic refugees", do remember this, and do remember how they treat foreign shop owners in the townships. To damn lazy and entitled to do something for themselves, and then they accuse others who are responsible and who are successful for their own situation.
I'm glad for you there in Tanzania.
@@Hannodb1961 I see your point.
Holy shit, I think SA is the most racist country in the world, I would never dare to visit it ever
Plus the insecurity is crazy, more people are victims of crime than my country in 1 year, and we are the same size in population 😅😅
I would take my chances with North Korea first , easily😅
This is teaching many of suchlike Wessels receive backhome. A few months in his maiden speech, he displayed respect. Now instead of talking arrested students, he talks trash. Why? Because he can't relate to the topic. He doesn't know what protest is. Or throwing a stone. Blasphemy really, for this young man to approach podium
arsoles and back on cell phone
The chairperson needs a hearing aid. She seems to side with the EFF
I love Ndlozi
Then you must also love poverty.
@@Hannodb1961 yeah i agree.
Ndlozi can be so smart but such a kid sometimes. How could people take the EFF seriously...
You're being stupid.... "take EFF serious" not seriously
Students take him very seriously
They take them seriously, because they're stupid.
They're stupid because the ANC robbed them of a propper schooling when they were kids.
ANC complained about Bantu education, but one of the first things they did when they came to power was to close the teachers colleges. The education most black children receive now is worse than bantu education, if any education exists at all. But if you think the massas are going to put blame where blame belongs.... that is the advantage of having an ignorant electorate - they're like putty in the politicians hands, sheep that can be steered in whatever direction the elite wants.
As George Orwell said: "Ignorance is Strength"
@@Hannodb1961 clearly the anc has robbed you also and calling people stupid doesnt make one smart but clealy shows your lack of iq
@Ben Etsane.
Ok, so you want an argument to prove it?
How about this: Einstein said that only stupid people keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.
1) Zimbabwe confiscated private property without compensation. Today, Zimbabwe is so poor, it can't even afford to have its own currency.
2) Venezuela confiscated private property without compensation. They're now the Zimbabwe of South America.
3) The EFF advocate for the confiscation of private property without compensation, and expect that to improve the life of the poor, while all the evidence point to the apposite.
The EFF, and their supporters are stupid. That is not an opinion, it is a statement of fact. They think they're doing something to improve their situation, but their own actions is only making things worse. They are people who cut off their own noses to spite their faces, and then they blame others for their disfigurement. When someone realise he is ignorant, there is still hope, because he can learn and improve himself. When someone take arrogant pride in his ignorance, that person is hopeless.
If you're going to act like a clueless idiot, you should not take offence when people call you that.
Burn it down down
Has anyone else noticed how much weight Malema has put on in the last 3 months. He has a black skin but his eyes scream Asian in his looks. I think all those members should have DNA done to see exactly where they came from. Not all of them are being truthful in their origin !!
2 down 1 to go 2 down 1 to go idiot
Seriously go back and look at some of the earlier videos he looks like a balloon now in comparison. And Ya I seriously see that some of these people are misrepresenting their true birth origins. Look at the hair texture and stature with bone structure. I want DNA !! Seriously !! Any body can forge a Birth Certificate !!
Tipies voorbeeld waarom die EFF deur die kak is.
So voken waar. Die eff is kak.
My dear sir...during apartheid you said blacks this side and Europeans this side....
Now we classify you as Europeans ..now you say you are South Africans....
Lol but you also came from the borders... Just because your black you think you are more South African than whites?
Honorable Wessels made valid points and they silenced him for it. Don't vote EFF. Xoxo darlings
Jodie Landon we will vote for EFF
+Nhlakanipho Nhlaka who is we?
@Nhlakanipho Nhlaka
Then you must love living in poverty, because that's all the EFF will give you. They know squad about what makes a country work.
Hannodb1961 you can see the future
+Nhlakanipho Nhlaka He is speaking the truth. Vote EFF though. If they win the logical people will leave and laugh while you dummies suffer
This Lekota always make me wander if his brain is not upset down.
honourable ndlozi we know you were one of the fortunate to obtain the phd but you are very abusive of your education sometimes you really misbehave to the extent that views get really bored
Education is no good if you don't use it. He might have a pHd is something useless, but he acts like he only has grade 1.
South-Africa is doomed
Yeah we've like entred doomsday already.
kunzima
Malema is a thief!
Michael Griesel Jy praat kaak!
And your skin stinks 😂
And he stole you🤣
....and you’re a fantastic fool
Your skin stinks as well 😂
Foolishness
Your nations should go to jail
Our nation is a jail. It's the good people who live behind bars to keep the bad people out.
Clowns
That member was told to leave the podium.....really? why is he not leaving the chamber????😁
Tshepang Siyase did you hear your malema stole money 💰 and you still vote for him
Why dont you leave SA?
'em cracka's be feeling shaken by eff's spirit @loveEff
Fuck EFF!
Why are you so angry ...?
EFF be like a bowl of obese red jelly beans
That's low....
If standing for what is right makes me a idiot...then my dear sir I am really happy to be one....
Children
My vote for EFF.
Kurhula Pardon Qhibi want to burn more things ?
communists driving sports cars while you starve
great choice
Kurhula Pardon Qhibi your vote doesnt count
+Kurhula Pardon Qhibi why eff???
@gino You have a mind of a slave. Continue being enslaved.
Hon Wessel for president
You are speaking rubbish wena kwedini yomlungu Malema is not a thief at all
Malema is a thief and a liar, and if you give him power then you will become an economic refugee in Mozambique.... if' they'll have you.