I always found it hilariously ironic that Justin Barcia accused Tomac of being dirty when his own claim to fame is being unnecessarily aggressive and Tomac is one of the cleanest racers in the class.
@@jasonwiggins6137 He has never taken out Roczen. And he was simply trying to bunch up the pack of lead riders at Vegas 17 to give Dungey a higher chance of placing 5th or worse… Dungey was the one who put Tomac in that position by having Musquin pull over for him the previous round, thus giving him an extra 3 points
@@thomaslopez7437 "simply trying to bunch up the pack." Is that your measure of a clean rider? Don't answer that, your response is just as delusional as every Eli Fanboy's. Any excuse for taking out Webb? You're out of your mind if you think Eli is one of the cleanest out there. It's extremely comical the nonsense that comes from anyone defending Eli Tomac. Please, for the one thousandth time, tell us all how many Championships he would have if he could just get those darn starts down with consistency. Trust me, Tomac has brought forth more laughs than Barcia.
@@jasonwiggins6137 Don’t know why you’re so angry about this and calling me a “fanboy”. I think I’m looking at this fairly objectively, I’m sure a lot of Webb, Roczen, Anderson, or Dungey fans would agree with me. Heck, I am a fan of a lot of other guys, not just Tomac. And about championships….Barcia hasn’t won a single 450 championship. Tomac is about to have 5 premier class titles between SX and MX, a feat that not many can say they have. So it’s a little bit interesting to use titles as a way to diss Tomac, as he’s the winningest active rider all-around. And I never claimed that he’s never made a dirty pass. I do know the Webb takeout you’re talking about, it was at Daytona in 2018 I believe in a heat race. Okay, that’s 1 takeout we can actually agree ever happened. I can’t even think of half of the guys Barcia has taken out since his career began.
@@thomaslopez7437 Lol. I'm not angry. Like I stated, it's funny. I have seen the most ridiculous arguments from Eli's fans. Even Damon Bradshaw's fans are not this clueless. Yes, you will have fans agree with you, but you are in the minority on the Dungey incident. Eli stated prior to the race that Ryan and KTM should be ashamed for winning the title without not having the most wins. What planet is he from? He literally said that he would never race dirty and then went out and did what he did. He's a hypocrite. I honestly don't care about Barcia, and I hope your claim as far as Eli being the best, is currently.... He is not, or ever will be, the greatest like so many of his fans believe. He doesn't have the starts, the lap times, titles, or consistency to come close.
Couple of thoughts... Musquin and AC9 are two of the coolest riders out there. Hoping Adam uses that speed and stays upright to grab a 450 title. Kenny, who I love, is the opposite of attitude. If he'd be more aggressive he'd have a supercross title by now. I can't wait to see Forkner and the Lawrence boys battle it out for years to come. Can we get a video just on this season focusing on Malcolm, Anderson, and Barcia...And how their "attitude" combined to cost Jason the championship. Maybe throw in Gumby Sexton's crash, after crash, after crash, and how he personally took himself out of it unassisted 🤣🤣🤣.
MEC is different I feel like. Yeah it’s a million bucks that was basically given to him at the end but it’s not like he took the million away from anyone, he was the only one with a shot to get it at all at that point
@@Geebs96 i see what you're saying man but you can't moan about somebody affecting the race result by pulling over and then become the beneficiary of the same action, no matter what race it is.
@@Reubambam247 one was for a championship that they’ve been working all year for, one was in a non championship race, tomac was winning the overall for that race either way, savatgy just made it better
And, as a hockey player I've learned that throwing punches against a hockey helmet is one of the worst ideas ever. Can we talk about how dumb punching someone with a motocross helmet is 🤣🤣🤣
It was hard to watch MM25 pull over like that to let RD5 win. I get it, KTM told him to and I'm I'm sure there would have been some sort of repercussions if he didn't but that sucks to see
I wish the championship would have come down to those points. I feel it would have forced AMAs hand in setting rules for that sort of thing. They charge money for us to watch races, and allowing cheating isnt the way to run a sport. This isnt wwe, the winner isnt scripted. Dungey did beat tomac flat out that year tho, so no hard feelings.
"If you want to take that home and sleep on that at night knowing that someone, ah, pulled over for ya, then it is what it is." Then, not long afterwards... Savatgy and the Monster Energy Cub and ching💰-ching💰!! Hey, it is what it is! 😜
I know it's for a championship and them team tactics there they're bullshit just like tomac said if you feel good about somebody pulling over for you then got home and sleep on it you're the champ that way and not just by beating somebody.
I completely forgot about Durham. I had to go back and look at his race finishes and standings because I just never remember him racing at the front lol. Does anyone remember how he did so well in the 2012 250 season but never finish a season better than 10th outside of that? Like, were there a ton of injured riders that season?
@@441motocross will never race but your videos got me into motorsports. Closing doors, tire tread, ruts, teammates and teamwork. Most of it translates to nascar and even road cycling
Brandis and Rusty Holland.... He was a good racer that could have done better. Saw him at dozens of GFI/CMA etc races 1993-2000. He was scrappy, testy.... red hair.....I have Tyler Evans being chased down by Dean Matson at a Los Banos race in Aug 1998. It's on VHS. Evans used Matson as a berm, twice, and Dean plagued him..... and Dean was 27, Tyler 17 and not one punch.... It was funny, Tyler frantically motioning Arron Pipes, the promoter, to "get that guy off my back....." 25 years ago
@@mclovin9234 he wouldnt have won the million without savatgy pulling over, dungey would have still won the championship if marv didnt pull over, its apples to apples.
@@alanguiver3983 not necessarily, if marv doesnt pull over then that’s three points in the whole championship. that’s huge in one race and dungey got 4th in vegas so it definitely would’ve helped
@@alanguiver3983 Like McLovin said, if MM didn't pull over for Dungey, the points gap going into Vegas would've been 3, meaning Tomac could have simply won Vegas and win the title based on a wins tiebreaker. Tomac had won I think 6/7 races heading into Vegas, so the odds would have been in Tomac's favor. MM pulling over for Dungey effectively changed the championship probability from 50/50 (if we're being generous) to around 90% in Dungey's favor.
Why is it that you can t-bone somebody on a track but you can't knock them out with your fist? The quickest way to end dirty moves is to allow bare knuckle fights in the pits.
Tomac crying about Team tactics, This is how F1 is run every year my friend. Tomac is one of my Fav current riders, sorry I am for Team Blue. I have ridden Yamaha for Years. As for Forkner, that guy is Horrible in how he rides, always crashing into people and gets hurt in the process.
Best is when so psycho goes fits on some guy and its him who gets his ass kicked, just love karma situation. But those F.. not to be that caught on camera, some acting like they are the victims even its them who launched the attack!
Does anybody know exactly when we turned into a rotting pile of social justice babies to judge racing where there is contact sometimes as a nature of the sport? How do you like that "attitude"? Go start a nursery for baby seals.
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I always found it hilariously ironic that Justin Barcia accused Tomac of being dirty when his own claim to fame is being unnecessarily aggressive and Tomac is one of the cleanest racers in the class.
BS, Tomac has taken out Webb and Roczen, and let alone Dungey, who he ran into, slow down just to hit him again.
@@jasonwiggins6137 He has never taken out Roczen. And he was simply trying to bunch up the pack of lead riders at Vegas 17 to give Dungey a higher chance of placing 5th or worse… Dungey was the one who put Tomac in that position by having Musquin pull over for him the previous round, thus giving him an extra 3 points
@@thomaslopez7437 "simply trying to bunch up the pack." Is that your measure of a clean rider? Don't answer that, your response is just as delusional as every Eli Fanboy's. Any excuse for taking out Webb? You're out of your mind if you think Eli is one of the cleanest out there. It's extremely comical the nonsense that comes from anyone defending Eli Tomac. Please, for the one thousandth time, tell us all how many Championships he would have if he could just get those darn starts down with consistency. Trust me, Tomac has brought forth more laughs than Barcia.
@@jasonwiggins6137 Don’t know why you’re so angry about this and calling me a “fanboy”. I think I’m looking at this fairly objectively, I’m sure a lot of Webb, Roczen, Anderson, or Dungey fans would agree with me. Heck, I am a fan of a lot of other guys, not just Tomac. And about championships….Barcia hasn’t won a single 450 championship. Tomac is about to have 5 premier class titles between SX and MX, a feat that not many can say they have. So it’s a little bit interesting to use titles as a way to diss Tomac, as he’s the winningest active rider all-around.
And I never claimed that he’s never made a dirty pass. I do know the Webb takeout you’re talking about, it was at Daytona in 2018 I believe in a heat race. Okay, that’s 1 takeout we can actually agree ever happened. I can’t even think of half of the guys Barcia has taken out since his career began.
@@thomaslopez7437 Lol. I'm not angry. Like I stated, it's funny. I have seen the most ridiculous arguments from Eli's fans. Even Damon Bradshaw's fans are not this clueless. Yes, you will have fans agree with you, but you are in the minority on the Dungey incident. Eli stated prior to the race that Ryan and KTM should be ashamed for winning the title without not having the most wins. What planet is he from? He literally said that he would never race dirty and then went out and did what he did. He's a hypocrite. I honestly don't care about Barcia, and I hope your claim as far as Eli being the best, is currently.... He is not, or ever will be, the greatest like so many of his fans believe. He doesn't have the starts, the lap times, titles, or consistency to come close.
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Love the new intro. Awesome vid as always 🤙
A great ending would have been after Tomac saying those final words, cut to Savatgy letting Tomac by to win the million dollar monster cup
Not a bad idea.
@@441motocross did that happen? I forgot savatgy was on monster energy Kawi before getting it back this fall.
@@jasonschwartz9481 yeah, you can find that race here on TH-cam. 2018 Monster Energy Cup
Content has always been good, pretty unique clips
Great vids man!
@ 3.30, i got that jersey of Jaimy sceveneels🤘😎
I like Roczen but it was funny to see him with some attitude hahaha very comedic the way you edited this lmao!
Dude, your videos are exquisite. The best of the best.
Thank you dude.
Love your videos keep it up!..btw I am a big fan
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Couple of thoughts... Musquin and AC9 are two of the coolest riders out there. Hoping Adam uses that speed and stays upright to grab a 450 title.
Kenny, who I love, is the opposite of attitude. If he'd be more aggressive he'd have a supercross title by now.
I can't wait to see Forkner and the Lawrence boys battle it out for years to come.
Can we get a video just on this season focusing on Malcolm, Anderson, and Barcia...And how their "attitude" combined to cost Jason the championship. Maybe throw in Gumby Sexton's crash, after crash, after crash, and how he personally took himself out of it unassisted 🤣🤣🤣.
Tomac didn't seem to mind Joey pulling over for him at MEC 🙄
Thinking the exact same thing
MEC is different I feel like. Yeah it’s a million bucks that was basically given to him at the end but it’s not like he took the million away from anyone, he was the only one with a shot to get it at all at that point
@@Geebs96 i see what you're saying man but you can't moan about somebody affecting the race result by pulling over and then become the beneficiary of the same action, no matter what race it is.
@@Reubambam247 one was for a championship that they’ve been working all year for, one was in a non championship race, tomac was winning the overall for that race either way, savatgy just made it better
@@mclovin9234 can't take a response seriously from a guy called "McLovin"
#changeit
Soooooo epic!
That last clip was the equivalent of the infamous Let Brock By pit board message.
Hilarious Aussie commentator (Maybe NZ who knows) goes from calling a race to calling a fight seamlessly 1:40. Hahaha.
It's like watching an "Ozzy Man" video lol
And, as a hockey player I've learned that throwing punches against a hockey helmet is one of the worst ideas ever. Can we talk about how dumb punching someone with a motocross helmet is 🤣🤣🤣
oi yea does anyone know the original video? (I'm from nz and have seen this before)
It was hard to watch MM25 pull over like that to let RD5 win. I get it, KTM told him to and I'm I'm sure there would have been some sort of repercussions if he didn't but that sucks to see
I agree. But at the same time tomac wouldn't have made it a big deal if the roles were reversed. Tough break either way
I wish the championship would have come down to those points. I feel it would have forced AMAs hand in setting rules for that sort of thing. They charge money for us to watch races, and allowing cheating isnt the way to run a sport. This isnt wwe, the winner isnt scripted. Dungey did beat tomac flat out that year tho, so no hard feelings.
Didn't a Green rider pull over for Tomac in Monster Cup so he could win the 1,000,000? Thought someone did in round 3.
@@pmccoy8924 Joey Savatgy pulled over for Tomac in the Cup
All of you crying about MM " pulling over." Go look up "Let Broc bye." It's been going on for a long time.
I love it when they punch each other on the helmet
Tomac got some sass
"If you want to take that home and sleep on that at night knowing that someone, ah, pulled over for ya, then it is what it is." Then, not long afterwards... Savatgy and the Monster Energy Cub and ching💰-ching💰!! Hey, it is what it is! 😜
I know it's for a championship and them team tactics there they're bullshit just like tomac said if you feel good about somebody pulling over for you then got home and sleep on it you're the champ that way and not just by beating somebody.
Look who it is! The pro MX champ that has no stats🤣 I want to see that pro card
I guess you should look up " Let Broc bye". It's been happening in racing for a long time.
Adrenaline I love it there only human.👍
I completely forgot about Durham. I had to go back and look at his race finishes and standings because I just never remember him racing at the front lol. Does anyone remember how he did so well in the 2012 250 season but never finish a season better than 10th outside of that? Like, were there a ton of injured riders that season?
It can’t be an attitude in motocross video without Justin barcia😅
New info is dope
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I love watching motocross racing moto madness, but when grab someone on a bike with helmet on and start punching them what does that do???❤😂!
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Can you make a video of Eli Tomac comebacks? Or Barcia? I remember seeing Eli fall 3 times and he still won the race
Just might.
@@441motocross will never race but your videos got me into motorsports. Closing doors, tire tread, ruts, teammates and teamwork. Most of it translates to nascar and even road cycling
@@5PercentTint that's awesome bro.
Roczen ran his mouth all tough and still got I’ll never have an SX title
What is the deal with Steinke getting passed and then purposely trying to take out leaders when he's a lapper? Dude needs to give it up
Was i the only one seeing Jeff walker 841 at 5:38
Brandis and Rusty Holland.... He was a good racer that could have done better. Saw him at dozens of GFI/CMA etc races 1993-2000. He was scrappy, testy.... red hair.....I have Tyler Evans being chased down by Dean Matson at a Los Banos race in Aug 1998. It's on VHS. Evans used Matson as a berm, twice, and Dean plagued him..... and Dean was 27, Tyler 17 and not one punch.... It was funny, Tyler frantically motioning Arron Pipes, the promoter, to "get that guy off my back....." 25 years ago
Cracks me up how tomac is a Hippo to have savatgy pull over to let tomac win monster cup for the million
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If I can't win I'm going to stamp my feet then go home . . . . . wah, waaaah, waaaaah😢
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I heard some South African accents in there!!
Sheesh
People forget that somebody's teammate pulled over for him to win a certain monster cup.
i mean he was winning the monster cup either way, savatgy just made his prize better. also one was for a championship and the other was a single event
@@mclovin9234 he wouldnt have won the million without savatgy pulling over, dungey would have still won the championship if marv didnt pull over, its apples to apples.
@@alanguiver3983 not necessarily, if marv doesnt pull over then that’s three points in the whole championship. that’s huge in one race and dungey got 4th in vegas so it definitely would’ve helped
@@alanguiver3983 Like McLovin said, if MM didn't pull over for Dungey, the points gap going into Vegas would've been 3, meaning Tomac could have simply won Vegas and win the title based on a wins tiebreaker. Tomac had won I think 6/7 races heading into Vegas, so the odds would have been in Tomac's favor. MM pulling over for Dungey effectively changed the championship probability from 50/50 (if we're being generous) to around 90% in Dungey's favor.
Tomas crying bout Marvin moving over for Dungey yet he's quiet about Savatgy moving over so he could win the MEC for $1 million...🤔
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kids, kids, kids. In other types of racing this sort of driving would get people killed.
Why is it that you can t-bone somebody on a track but you can't knock them out with your fist? The quickest way to end dirty moves is to allow bare knuckle fights in the pits.
I’ve never understood why everyone cries about the east Rutherford race when tomac literally won a million with team tactics lol
So after Ricky Carmichael everyone got soft?
Only because after the Will Smith thing, I will say, violence from role models on tv in sports should be seen as very unacceptable.
U crybaby
Polyrhythms
Well it sure not the 1990s motocross and Supercross anymore
Right.
Tomac crying about Team tactics, This is how F1 is run every year my friend. Tomac is one of my Fav current riders, sorry I am for Team Blue. I have ridden Yamaha for Years. As for Forkner, that guy is Horrible in how he rides, always crashing into people and gets hurt in the process.
Big girls
Tomac just happy RV2 doesnt race anymore so he actually has a shot at winning races.
Hunter Lawrence lost my respect @ 3:48
He doesn't care, neither do 6.9B people
That ET3/MM25 clip should have been called "Hypocrites' in Motocross.
Some of these so called ‘professional’ riders need to grow up.
I’m with you on that one
Best is when so psycho goes fits on some guy and its him who gets his ass kicked, just love karma situation. But those F.. not to be that caught on camera, some acting like they are the victims even its them who launched the attack!
Tapi saya tinggal di pelosok desa
Politics…it’s in everything. Especially politics.
Race and boxe,not good in sport...PORTUGAL
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come one man being reasonable and apologizing is not amusing lol
Some more South African motocross action: th-cam.com/video/xL0jRwWo1Qw/w-d-xo.html
Barcia looked like such a cry baby
Cry baby roczen. Hasnt changed
Most of the mx riders are tiny guys. I'd like to see cage fights with mx riders vs jockeys.
Does anybody know exactly when we turned into a rotting pile of social justice babies to judge racing where there is contact sometimes as a nature of the sport?
How do you like that "attitude"? Go start a nursery for baby seals.
NOBODY had to deal with more crap talked to him than James Stewart! The racial slurs slung at him every single weekend was UNBELIEVABLE!
Stop it. Nobody ever said anything racial to him