After a quick test, I honestly think perhaps rushing Lost Land for Therodos is really powerfull if you are the only water nation. You can really aggressively push even against the most entrenched enemies if you are the only water nation and you can tech really fast with both owl quils and the homunculi. Might not be the most meta option, but it is certainly thematic and different.
I think you also need to take into account how hard it is for the land nations in your game to come underwater. If they would really struggle, I could totally see a Lost Land/Throne rush.
I did load in and take a peak (and at MA since I hadn't looked hard. They both sure look like they fit right into their age and will be very strong blood nations!
Yes, D2 to summon in the revenant. I wish it was able to be summoned underwater, as I would b-line it. Going up enchant also opens up skeleton spam, which I actually don't like on this nation.
The Dog Days ft dogfish, ghosts, and dancing lunatics (awe inspiring) On an unrelated note, LA pyrene looks slick. Kinda wish they had a Cambion or true demon pretender chassis, but it does give me a reason to run Baphomet.
I have not done it yet, but just having Lost Land as a possibility helps. A unique D1 summon at Conj0 or Ench0 that could be summoned UW would also help a ton.
Pretender. Indeed although Old man of the sea with its low extra path cost and research say W5S3D & E3 (golems or Air for the summon) chill/half undead/UC/UD's. Never played it just a thought.
@@BabelBuilder I just think other nations do that just as well without losing the gold side. So they fall behind by quite a lot. Especially on research.
Yeah. I suppose the "advantage" is you become hard to attack into and siege once there are no supplies to be had. Meanwhile, you fill your forts with things that don't need to eat.
Hear, hear! I hate having to do the YT shilling song and dance, but it seems necessary for now. I dream of the day I am big enough that the channel would be self sustaining without it! >
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After a quick test, I honestly think perhaps rushing Lost Land for Therodos is really powerfull if you are the only water nation. You can really aggressively push even against the most entrenched enemies if you are the only water nation and you can tech really fast with both owl quils and the homunculi. Might not be the most meta option, but it is certainly thematic and different.
I think you also need to take into account how hard it is for the land nations in your game to come underwater. If they would really struggle, I could totally see a Lost Land/Throne rush.
YESSSSSS THEREDOS. MY BOYS
I feel like you just like all the underwater nations for some reason. :thinking:
@@BabelBuilder ironically I actually dislike most of them
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my fins, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of legs."
Would have been nice to see the big head.
Ghosts who don't know they are dead are a neat idea
Poor sods. :(
Looking forward to the Ghost stream. Also did you see? Latest update added LA Pyrène. Cambions galore.
I did load in and take a peak (and at MA since I hadn't looked hard. They both sure look like they fit right into their age and will be very strong blood nations!
Don't cross that stream!
Tim, you thought about crossing the streams didn't you!?
@@BabelBuilder 😇
@@Timlagor What would that be? Multiplayer (perhaps disciple vs AI) where we have both streams on screen?
THERADOS! I've been playing them a lot. Probably the only nation I run a Half-Dead bless on.
Looking forward to the stream.
What is your full bless with half-dead?
Could you please start saying 'peltast' without the extra 'e' in the middle?
I got into Dom bc of your vids! Love the content!
You don't happen to have a timestamp do you? I make no claims of correctly pronouncing anything!
@@BabelBuilder Around there 14:40, No worries. I applaud you for even trying to pronounce half of those names
Ah, yeah I hear it. Thanks for the ts. 1% better every time is the goal!
Still pretty new to Dominions and excited to learn more about Pop kill nations
They are a ton of fun to play, especially in single player. In multiplayer, you basically always get rushed since you ruin the land as time goes on.
Revenant is a cheap way to get a D1 mage for 9D, a cost effective site searcher especially with a skull staff
Problem with Revenant is you CANT cast it UW
@@AAX11111 true but a presence on land is assumed for playing the nation successfully and a coastal fort will have a lab
Still need d2 ya?
Yes, D2 to summon in the revenant. I wish it was able to be summoned underwater, as I would b-line it. Going up enchant also opens up skeleton spam, which I actually don't like on this nation.
The Dog Days ft dogfish, ghosts, and dancing lunatics (awe inspiring)
On an unrelated note, LA pyrene looks slick. Kinda wish they had a Cambion or true demon pretender chassis, but it does give me a reason to run Baphomet.
Your comment made me go take a peak. They are looking good, but oh so bloody!
I do like Theodore as a concept. I just wish it was better than it is as a package. But being UW means its would be way too OP if it was buffed.
I have not done it yet, but just having Lost Land as a possibility helps.
A unique D1 summon at Conj0 or Ench0 that could be summoned UW would also help a ton.
Pretender. Indeed although Old man of the sea with its low extra path cost and research say W5S3D & E3 (golems or Air for the summon) chill/half undead/UC/UD's. Never played it just a thought.
Could be fun, but man giving up on the possibility of summoning Telkhines at W5A3 would be hard for me.
@@BabelBuilder Although with Luck/misfortune the Hero's might have arrived. Anyhow looking forward to seeing that 40 discount Telkhine pretender.
The strongest nation
That's a pretty bold claim. Why do you think so?
Looking forward to the stream babel.
Me too! I didn't find the unit micro too bad in the test game either!
Is AP buff magical weapons? Or is it just an astral exclusive?
If something is magical, it should be labelled as such. So something like: "...add AP and magical...." Alternatively, it might call for a MR check.
@@BabelBuilder i mean those blesses like solar weapon
This should be good. Therodos is really fun.
They are super fun, and with how their free spawn work, not too bad to micro units around either.
A really cool nation, but I feel most if not all of the pop kill nations struggle because of the low income.
Nature of the beast I am afraid. Generally, they want to try and shift over to a gem economy before they run out of gold.
@@BabelBuilder I just think other nations do that just as well without losing the gold side. So they fall behind by quite a lot. Especially on research.
Yeah. I suppose the "advantage" is you become hard to attack into and siege once there are no supplies to be had. Meanwhile, you fill your forts with things that don't need to eat.
Algorithm algorithm
Hear, hear!
I hate having to do the YT shilling song and dance, but it seems necessary for now. I dream of the day I am big enough that the channel would be self sustaining without it! >
@@BabelBuilder one day, if you sacrifice enough blood slaves, you can have a big channel
If only it was that easy! :)