What a FINALE!⭐ | Interview With The Vampire 2x8 | Reaction & Commentary
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Synopsis
In 2022, the vampire Louis de Pointe du Lac lived in Dubai and sought to tell the story of his life or afterlife to renowned journalist Daniel Molloy. Beginning in early 20th-century New Orleans, Louis' story follows his relationship with the vampire Lestat du Lioncourt and their formed family, including teen fledgling Claudia. Together, the vampire family endures immortality in New Orleans and beyond. As the interview continues in Dubai, Molloy discovers the truths beneath Louis' story.
Outro song: Odece ~ Betrayal. • Odece ~ Betrayal.
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Go check out foxtaco’s 2x7 reaction th-cam.com/video/z5MGTZCn2i8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=e0XQ5zP8uEk-uwvo 🙏🏾 Awesome stuff - AND he just dropped the move reaction!
I already did 😂 and I enjoyed seeing his take on it. He was fully here and hyped for Lestat and it left him down like all of us because of Claudia.❤
oh, that's a great idea to watch the cast/showrunner interviews!
yes, your perspectives will likely be radically different once y'all are both finished with s2--your convo will be SPICY! XD excited!
@@FrankFreezy_ Don't forget to watch (and please react!) the trailer for next season!
I LOVE the Louis painting in the background!
gracias💚
@@FrankFreezy_es fantástico ❤
Right it’s gorgeous ❤
@@FrankFreezy_ Can’t wait to see the finished piece!! The way you made his skin glow with the warm lighting makes his green eyes pop
i was wondering if that’s what it was, it looks so good!
My favorite little easter egg is back in the episode where they find out about Armand wiping their minds, Louis and Armand are bickering about decorating the dining room wall. Louis says "Maybe we'll wait for revelation to enter the room." And in this episode, when Armands full betrayal is revealed, their fight puts a HUGE crack down that wall. Revelation entered the room, indeed
And in the end, Louis chose a Black, New Orleans artist's work to put on that wall. I think that represents him finally figuring out who he is, as does his NOT wearing all black for once in permanent mourning. I'm just glad the floating bookcases are gone since they represented Armand's power over Louis, and glad they didn't crash down in the wall-crack moment and smoosh Daniel like a bug.
Love it
the fact that jacob anderson doesn't have any nominations for his role as louis is INSANE
He's been nominated for the role a few times (5 I believe?), but the fact that he hasn't WON is what is insane to me. Plus not being nominated at any of the mainstream awards.
@mieroth omg 5? how did i miss that? i've just found out about the MOBO awards nom though, let's hope he gets it
@mieroth what 5? AMC didn't submit anyone for nominations for the first season. They missed the deadline for this year's Emmys. They recently submitted nominations for Crtic's Choice, but only the show and Sam got nominated. The deadline for Golden Globe submissions was November 4th. They did not announce if they sent submissions for that. He hasn't been nominated for any U.S. based awards. Maybe he was nominated for something outside the U.S.
You said "malloy let me see your eyes" like a mom finding their suspiciously quiet child with ~something~ in their mouth 😂
Lmao exactly!!!!!!
There is no reality in which Claudia could have been saved.
Her death is horrible, it's sad, it's painful. It feels pointless, makes you feel angry, but that's the whole point. Claudia is always going to die, because Claudia is Anne Rice's daughter.
There's nothing they could have done to save her, and there's nothing that they could have done to save Claudia, not at that point.
She was always destined to die, the fact that both her deaths are related to her burning highlights the fact that the turning didn't actually save her, but only delayed the inevitable. Every single person in her life failed her, and that's the tragedy of it.
Expecting Lestat to save Claudia is wild. WTF would he? Why should he? I get why he didn't and I don't fault him. That girl was a harmful to his relationship, killed him and took his lover.
@@chinyereugwu9431 naahh she was his daughter and he loved her despite everything, and she's gonna haunt him for the rest of his life
As a major Lestat fan, even I get that what they present to you in the show isn’t enough to justify him to most viewers. I have a major bias because I know the character from the books, and I can see the seeds the show writers are laying out to show his whole self. But I understand that the most important parts of him are still unexplained in the show. That’s why I’m so hype for S3 and beyond!
But aside from all this, I think the most important thing is to be able to recognize how both Louis and Lestat feel in their final scene together. It’s about processing their performances and feeling why what they’re both feeling is so real, and what this scene means for Louis as a resolution to his whole vampiric struggle.
Plus, just a side note, I have never been mad at your Lestat hate as a Lestat lover, because all your takes are real as hell, and you even try to give him grace and interpret his actions during important moments despite your feelings toward him. Plus even your negative takes are phrased so considerately.
You should be made at him having a rant about not saving Claudia. WRF would he. It's insane to expect Lestat to save the major obstacle in his relationship. Claudia was an unwanted and harmful 3rd in his relationship. Being mad that he didn't save her is unfair and looking for reasons to dislike him.Bro wasn't even upset with Awmand for his part. the bias is obvious.
The way I took what Louis said, about the "gift", was that becoming a Vampire gave Louis time. Time to learn how to accept himself, time to self-actualize and reflect. If Louis stayed human, there's a very high chance he might have killed himself that night he went into the church, because he blamed himself for Paul's death. Even if he hadn't done that, Louis would have lived a closeted life as a brutish pimp, never discovering himself. He never would have been a father to Claudia (even though he lost her, I am willing to bet that he appreciated being able to love her for the 40 or so years he had with her), he never would have been able to experience love with men the way he did with Lestat and Armand. He would have died lonely and bitter. Now Louis has the chance to be happy some day, if not right now.
Yes!! When people talk about immortality I feel like it’s easy to ignore the positives. The gift of immortality is time. Time to grow and change and learn and become your truest self in a new era that accepts you better than the era you were born to. To quote The Good Place, it’s “time with the people you love.”
I also think its ironic how both Louis and Lestats response to depression is to essentially turn into the other. Louis kills with no issue, and Lestat eats rats
I think maybe Lestat is eating rats to remind himself of Louis because it's one tiny way he can be vicariously close to what little of Louis he has left (his memory of Louis) and it's maybe also a way to punish himself both possibly for having judged Louis so hard for it and/or by denying himself the pleasures of drinking what he would personally enjoy much better.
Honestly, Louis may be doing a similar thing, too-it's maybe a form of self-loathing and punishing himself or disconnecting from himself and his feels and/or it's maybe a way of feeling closer to or remembering Lestat.
But maybe that's just me, idekk.😅😊
I'm sorry to hear that parts of the fanbase continue to do this. I enjoy the Movie Man's reactions as well and I think you both (and Taco) do such a great job on these. Keep on the thoughtful good work!
Some people just want to prove their points so much that they don't care if it's ruins the experience for us. Appreciate it.🩶
I feel the same way! And I watch all three of you lol. My favorite thing about watching these reactions is genuinely watching people experience the show for the first time and learning about how they process the information as it comes. I’m sorry people are like that.
Me too - I watch all 3 and it's disappointing that people are spoiling. You should be able to enjoy it unhindered and raw and let the tale seduce you. That being said, there's a lot that's different from the books so I'd take those spoilers with a grain of salt.
Literally the holy trinity of IWTV reactions lol
I think the beauty of the Louis and Lestat reunion scene is that, in a way, there is no "moving forward" for them. Claudia is dead, there is no bringing her back. But this is the first time they're allowing themselves to mourn their daughter together, the daughter they killed. Her death is in both of their hands, and they will have to live with it forever. They both know that, and now they get to finally acknowledge it and suffer for it together for a moment. It's heartbreaking and unfair but that's the genius of this show!
OMG Louis' painting in the background, so so beautiful!
You are such a talented artist!
Much love thank you. Hopefully I finish it soon
I understand the frustration with lestat completely but I think you really hit the nail on the head with the "if louis was under the sun lestat would've saved him" and that's what's at the very heart of this story. BOTH Louis and Lestat are the parents who would save each other before their kid from a burning building. Louis did it in NOLA when he left lestat alive knowing fully well he would most likely kill him and claudia as revenge and lestat did it here. He, and I haven’t read the books nor do I have any knowledge of what happens but scritcly from how I interpreted this show, could physically only save one and he would always always always choose louis. Just like louis would choose him, and has done time and time again. I truly believe that claudia's tragedy is that she had two parents who loved each other a lot more then they loved her.
Also, I feel like a lot of people forget that what Lestat managed to do using all his powers still wasn't actually enough to save Louis... like Armand still had to pull him out of the wall, and he definitely would NOT have done that for Claudia. If Lestat had chosen her between the two he would have actually lost both
Anyone who expected Lestat to save Claudia hasn't been watching this show. It makes no sense that he would save that girl he was manipulated into having who killed him and tried to get his lover to leave him. C,aydia was a 3rd in the relationship and was constantly working on breaking the pair up. It would be grossly OCC for him to save her. in his shoes I also wouldn't save her. she killed me and took my man!
This. I was quite on the side of "Lestat couldn't really save Claudia" and defend him for anyone who didn't recognize his ear bleeding after he saved Louis. However, what we are doing here is: looking at the situation on Lestat's side. If we put outself in Claudia's shoes then yeah, technically, Lestat CAN save Claudia. It was a situation where you can only save one person and that person wasn't Claudia. Lestat chose Louis, no matter what, it was his choice not to save Claudia which rightfully broke him as equally as it had broken Louis (when Louis chose Lestat in s1e7). I had already read the book and you don't need to read them to have your own judgement, this is an adaptation and it needs to stand on it own. I have different opinion about the characters from the book vs the show, they are 2 different versions.
I respect you raw grief of Claudia. They all played apart in her death even Claudia, but at the end of the day, Claudia was a child that didn’t ask to be put in this situation. Love my Louis but I can respect people holding him accountable for his action.
Amen to that! Love
Love yall💐 If this is where we part ways, I'm happy you were here for the ride🙏🏾
haha not going anywhere.
OH MY GOD IM LOSING MY MIND AT THAT LOUIS/JACOB PAINTING YOU ARE INSANELY TALENTED
hahaha tysm I love it so much
@@FrankFreezy_ cant wait to see it finished!
A detail I noticed from the last scene with Louis is that he's dressed in a shirt almost identical to the plaid jacket he wears back in 1910 in episode 1! It's like he's come back to himself, he's got colour and pattern back in his life, after being so suppressed and neutral with Armand in his life.
I almost dislocated my middle fingers flipping Armand off during the last two episodes
lol i feel that
Girl same 😭
@@dovike.V. I felt this in my very core, I was FERAL
@@FrankFreezy_ Really? You seemed more upset at Lestat for not saving claudia. still confused why you expected him to. That would be working against his own best interest. Lestat doesn't care and doesn't want her around. He never did and she was bad for his relationship. Which is fine by me. Also about lestat changing and atoning. They killed him. Claudia killed him. Convinced his lover to kill him What the heck. Claudia deserved to die. Louis should also get some punishment. I guess not all Vampire Lives Matter.
They fricking killed him. Why is he having to atone? why do both men have to be accountable for Claudia.? Louis is the only one accountable for Claudia's tragic life because Lestat didn't want to give her life. Louis is the one accountable
@@chinyereugwu9431
First off Lestat turned Claudia. So yes he's responsible for her. Secondly Claudia tried to escape and the reason she wanted to off Lestat was because he wouldn't let her. Thirdly are you ok? If you don't care about someone. Treating them like ass isn't the answer. Like hello? Claudia was a child and and Lestat was a bad father. And yes he was a father to her. As reluctant as he may be, he still turned Claudia into a vampire. And also Lestat cared about Claudia. So yeah you're just wrong on whole lot of fronts
Jacob Anderson's eyes can tell a thousand tales & his scrunchy forhead makes me want to move heaven & earth so everything okay for Louis. Beautiful illustration Frank. ❤
Very descriptive I love it. I love that you can read all that from the half painted piece 💐
Right when the hurricane hits is so right!! "i was just a roof shingle that flew off your house" "you cannot script a hurricane" and louis signing the waiver accepting the risks of the hurricane. the LAYERS
Louis last line, "I own the night" took me back to the 1st episode of this season when the first words the Romanian vampire spoke to Louis and Claudia when they followed her into her home were, "We own the night. Yes?" and I think Louis said, "Yes".
Poor Claudia. She was always doomed. She would have died as a child in her human life and she died as a young vampire in her immortal life. It never gets easier.
Tragic indeed
wait a damn minute, this painting is absolutely incredible !
🫡🙏🏾
“Malloy , let me see your eyes “! 😂😂
When Louis says "why did you cross an ocean to rehearse a play that would burn your daughter alive?", we actually realize that Lestat crossed an ocean to be part of that play because it was the only chance he had to influence the outcome. He crossed an ocean, just like Louis crossed the Mississippi, for his love. He played along to save Louis. I think not only he could only save one, and Claudia is the one who was plotting his murder and did most of it, so he let her go, but to him it was always about Louis, rightly or wrongly, and he wasn't going to let his nasty ex kill the love of his life. And he didn't do it so they'd be back together, it's his one selfless act. Also, remember that what Louis wanted out of the interview was "truth and reconciliation", and he did.
Also if Lestat had tried to do anything else, the coven would have killed all of them.
Yeah he definitely didn't come for any sort of revenge, he didn't come to kill either one of them. He came to save them, but it was an impossible situation, without any spoilers, it was very clear in the ep, that he only had one shot to save one of them. So of course he saves Louis. But the thing is, if he saved Claudia instead and let Louis burn (which he wouldn't have been able to regardless)... Claudia would have died anyways. At least in saving Louis, he saved Louis.
@Ganychan The thing is, that alot of people either miss or just don't consider... piggy-backing off what you said, it's not the coven leashing Lestat (at least not alone) it's Armand himself. Even weak, this coven is no match for Lestat, but Armand is the equalizer basically. My theory to be honest, based on everything in the episode... is that that's the actually reason Armand was right upfront, instead of in his balcony seat way up in the back. He was the one, mentally, subduing Lestat during the play. And if there was any real reason that he was exhausted from expending too much power, it was maintaining as much control on him as he could.
Lestat is genuinely a really powerful Vampire, especially for his age, but he couldn't have taken on an entire coven AND Armand. Armand on the other hand......
@@-Arkin33 Armand is no match for Lestat at full strength either. JS. Age is not the only thing that makes a Vampires strength. Their lineage. Who they have fed on.. Ect. It's the only reason Louis was able to be formidable to Santiago is that he had been feeding on Armand. Louis is not inherently very strong in the grand scheme.
@hypocritex Talking to the wrong one I think, I already know all of this. I come from the books, hardcore fan. And I didn't say Armand was a "match" for Lestat, none of them are, I said he was an "equalizer", within the parameters of the circumstance. That being that Lestat is clearly already very weakened (no spoilers), he's surrounded by a coven of Vampires, at least 3 of which are older than him. Which doesn't matter singularly, but as a whole... but then you add in Armand, and the fact that Louis' is completely dependant on Lestats careful choices. And yeah, all of that together, there was very VERY little Lestat could do. He also is not as prolific in the mind-gift as Armand, as shown.
Armand can put an entire coven of Vamps down, like it's nothing. Lestats bleeding from his ears, withered and haggard from an audience full of just humans. Even ancient Vamps have nothing on Armand, when it comes to his mind gift. So you're right, but I still stand on exactly what I said 😉👌🏽
I haven’t finished this video yet, but I love your conclusion that having given all your pain, choosing to accept lestat at his word isnt an act of weakness- it’s active self preservation and allows space for healing. i think that’s exactly what’s happening with louis as well in the end of this episode - he’s held that pain for all his immortal life and been under the influence of armand’s lies about their history for so long, and he is finally allowed to make his own choices and move forward. He can finally grieve and be confident in the truth of his life. the episode reflects such a powerful act of agency on louis’ part - its not about whether lestat is worthy of forgiveness, it’s about louis finding solace and understanding of his own life and finally feeling the full scope of the loss of claudia and paul. it’s like waking up. Love your reactions and analysis so much!
I like this a lot. And thank you so much. Appreciate it🫡💛
I love the painting! The expression and lighting is so good. Claudia deserved better man. I hope she comes back somehow.
Thank you thank you. I hope so too
Hmm the way Lestat haunts Louis they can do the same thing and make Claudia haunting Lestat. 😵
I am always fascinated by reactions from folks who know only the story written for this show. I think thats why so many fans love this show because it has layers and layers that just add to this story. the one change from louis and claudia from white to creole has sparked so much conversation. It has added so much richness to these relationships. So many twists and turns. so much nuance. uh i cant wait till season three
I love how much you focus on Claudia and the way everybody around her (save for Madeleine) hurt her and created a life that could only end tragically. She really is in the center of the storm for Louis, Lestat, and Armand, and a defining force in how they exist in the wake of her death. It's truly a testament to her importance that, as much as the men in her life disregarded her and her needs, she becomes embedded in their everyday to the point of almost haunting them.
Claudia never stood a chance, I can't imagine the heartache of never being chosen. From her father giving her away to her abusive aunt to the vampires that made her just to kill her when she's FINALLY found happiness. Thank you for your understanding and grace for the show, it's been a pleasure watching and hearing your thoughts ❤
I love the way you acknowledge and validate differing interpretations that people may have---sooo many people fixate on presenting their own opinions as fact, when so much is based on perspective. We all, including the characters themselves, approach the events, assumptions and motivations in this story through different lenses and it's a testament of brilliance that this show is presented in such a way that allows everyone their own truth.
Have you considered a re-watch/ retrospective of both seasons based on your complete journey? That would be epic.
The painting in the background is incredible ❤. Is it from the “You and Me” scene?
Yes 😊 yes and yes❤️🌺
Louis being with Armand out of spite is Peek rebound energy. No wonder why he snapped so hard at Daniel. Too close to the truth.
Yes precisely 💯
Claudia noded affirmatively when Santiago gave Madeline the option to join them as to say "it's okay, save yourself"
Absolutely heartbreaking
God, IWTV is such a beautiful representation of grief, I love how they gave some closure to Louis' pain at the end of the episode, not a representation of anger and guilt, or tears. But the grief of acceptance, the numb pain that is always there, is the realization that sometimes you will look at your loved one's belongings and not feel like you are drowning anymore, you feel more like a little tug or more like a pinch your heart, it hurts and will never stop hurting but you will also remember the beautiful moments you spent with your loved one, not just their deaths.
Did you realize not only did Lestat warn Louis but also Claudia, it seemed like abuse but he knew if she went to Europe she would be killed no matter what because of rules of the pact. Look what happened the first time she left. He always knew the outcome. But he loved Louis. And he wanted to give him that gift but unfortunately Claudia was never meant to not be protected by him. It's ok, you can still watch Arcane: League of Legends for all your emotional herk and jerk. Plus it's 2 seasons and they're done
The Louis painting in the background isn't even finished and it looks amazing! Fantastic job!
Muchas Gracias
16:11 I’m really hoping in s3 he explains that something kept him from doing something to help her! It really looked like something more was going on
Can't wait for this. 😢
why would he help her?! He didn't want her, She killed him and was an obstacle in his relationship. Louis is the one who cared for Claudia. Lestat didn't and he should be expected to. Jeez. The thing that kept him from saving her, she killed him and hates his guts
@@chinyereugwu9431 My feelings towards claudia are pretty conflicted, I like her a lot less than most viewers (not just in the series, but also in the book and the original movie), but I have no doubt that Lestat loved her. He was devastated to see her burn, he was not over her death at all in the reunion scene in New Orleans. He was regretful, that he couldn't be a good father to her, at least that's how I interpret that scene. I even think he didn't reject her as a daughter per se, he didn't want to turn her, because he knew what it meant to turn someone, who wasn't ready to be a vampire, because of his experience with turning Niki. I think he wanted to spare Louis (and maybe even himself) going through watching Claudia losing her mind as Niki lost his.
"Raw doging reaction" is wild & I'm here for it. 😂 Thank you for being vulnerable & sharing your feelings with us. This finale was just an absolute emotional jaugernaut.
😂😂 I had to say that as plainly as possible. Because people forget, I haven’t watched this five different times like most of them have. Much love. It was fun while it lasted.
@FrankFreezy_ ... Until the next unhinged season 😹
@@booksgurrsandpurrs haha yappp
People are gonna be fighting over that beautiful Louis portrait after this!! You're really talented, Frankie.
When Louis asks if Armand was the one who saved him at the theater, look how long it took Armand to say, "Yes." Almost as if he were surprised that Louis thought it was him. "Let's see how long it holds", Lestat says to Armand. Well, the Big Lie held for almost 8 decades.
Lestat had the fire gift from S1 Ep1...unless he brought a couple gas cans into that church haha!
Claudia used “stoning” in the sense of injustice against women. But I totally agree with everything you said about the racial undertones!
1:11:51 - Completely fair. I don't think it's him totally absolving any of the bad, either. I think it's just him acknowledging, in order to finally try and move forward at last, perhaps that there are many sides to a coin.
1:12:19 - YES, I agree , could be that too.
It took Claudia 50 years to find someone for her but im glad she got to experience that best part of the series
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Thank you so much for reviewing this series. I was so sad that I finished it so seeing your reactions have been a huge comfort. I appreciated your perspective, as I missed more things than I thought initially. Thank you.
Your reactions to this show have been one of my favourites and have made me reflect not just about the different aspects of the show but of things in my own life. Thank you for the amazing work!
Seeing you react to Louis and Lestat's NOLA conversation through your palpable grief for Claudia and Madeleine actually made me realise a few things. For most viewers, yourself included, Claudia's death is fresh. The wounds of her death are still stinging. For me, I have mourned Claudia in some way or another since +-1997/8 first through the movie and in the late 2000s when I finally read the books. The way I have mourned her has evolved both as I have matured (I was 6-7 back then) and developed and had life experiences. To me, mourning Claudia is something that always exists in the back of my mind. Warms my heart to see people feel for her so intensely.
Which then prompted me to think: for Louis and Lestat it has been over 70 years. They lost their child. The grief is never gone, it's always there as a type of living thing inside them, but they are in a place so far removed from the moment she died, so far removed in time from the pain they have caused each other, that they can come to a place of platonic reconciliation. It circles back to both Louis telling Daniel that time heals and Louis in the "You and Me" speech telling Claudia that it doesn't mean they forget what happened. They'll just move on to the next stage in their life with the forgiveness they can give each other. I can't imagine forgiveness was easy for Louis to give in the slightest. But I think we all hope it brings him peace.
Also yeah that final monologue---Louis is a badass. ^_^
Thank you again! ❤ And absolutely loving your Hannibal reactions too!
I like the idea that everyone had a chance to save Claudia at some point until the last minute, and were unable to. somehow her death symbolizes that she did not belong to that chaos, and that for louis and lestat it will be they punishment.
No one could save her more than Armand, and he's literally the only one (of those who could save her) who actively chose not to. Lestat couldn't have saved her, because he physically couldn't have. He could only do what he did to save just one of them. Of course it's Louis. If he saved Claudia, Louis would have burned, which would have taken Lestat out as well. And then no one would have been there to save Claudia, cause we all know that Armand wouldn't have pulled her from the wall. And Madeleine would have still been burned as well... so if he saved Claudia instead, they all would've died. Not just Claudia. And no more show 🤷🏽♀️ Claudia's death was inevitable, that was/is the main point of her character, and that comes from Anne Rice. Her death is meant to symbolize the inevitability of her death, and the ultimate inability to save her from it. Again, that's Anne Rice. Working through the pain and mourning, etc of her own daughter and her loss
@@-Arkin33 Everyone condemned her to this end, everyone is to blame, but especially Louis and Lestat. She was nothing to Armand, just a wall in his path, he was the evil mastermind, but well, it's their nature!
@erick7895 Nah, I don't care if you liked the character, Armand doesn't get a pass on anything. Everyone has their part to play yes, including Claudia herself. But the blame goes to Armand. She was free, she was safe, she finally found her love. She found her home, her future, the thing that would help her endure. And Louis helped her get there, Armand made the decision to kill her, when he could have just left her to Madeliene. In their happy little home, outside of Paris. Growing flowers where they planted their dead. He chose all that. Louis and Lestat did not condemn her, they literally couldn't save her. This coven condemned her, literally. Armand condemned her. It doesn't change the past, it doesn't change their failures, but that is a fact. If there is actually blame for the enevitability of her death, it's on the coven and the coven master who literally CHOSE to kill her.
@-Arkin33 I couldn't care less about Armand, I'm Loustat to the end and that's why I put the responsibility on them, they failed as parents and that's it! Armand kills her because he is the bad guy, like i said she was nothing for him. And that's why both carry this burden of guilty wherever they go!
@erick7895 I get what you're saying and I never said you were wrong. About the other things, but saying that Louis & Lestat "condemned" her is not accurate. They failed her as parents yes, but that has nothing to do with her death. They are all (again including Claudia herself) responsible for this outcome. All of them. But this coven and Armand killed her. Not Louis, not Lestat. Armand, specifically. Seeing as how he is the only one, realistically who could have prevented it, and/or could have saved her. Their remorse and grief and guilt, etc. Are because they could not save her. Her death was literally inevitable. It's a Canon event. They could not have saved her, no matter what they did or tried. Armand could have and chose not to. Their past choices and failure of her do not correlate, because it would not have changed anything. That's part of Louis' whole speech about the suit changes nothing. All roads led to the loss of Claudia, as Anne Rice wrote it.
i deeply appreciate and respect how much Claudia and her tragedy is front of mind and front of heart for you in this episode
Thanks for sharing your journey through this show with us. ❤ Your grief over Claudia’s ending is so valid. The only thing I’ll say about Lestat’s part in it (no spoilers, I haven’t read the books), is that we only saw Armand’s version of that moment. Louis says really explicitly “ask him, I wasn’t there.” And we know at this point that Armand is NOT a trustworthy source on Lestat.
I really am hoping that we’ll get Lestat’s version of the trial in the future, and I hope that in that version, he did try.
That’s such a good point. I never thought of that. For all we know that could’ve all been bullshit. Thank you for this❤️💛
EDIT: lmao I typed all this out before your voiceover interruption XD I totally understand your frustrations and I also wish Lestat could have done more. Just keeping this up because I still feel like the inner motivation is interesting.
There's something very important about Lestat's involvement in the play that first viewers might miss, but after Louis is "banished" and leaves the stage, you can see Lestat swaying like he's about to pass out in the background. Saving one of them took ALL his strength, and he had to choose. It was a shitty choice either way, but you have to kind of get into his head a little bit to understand it I think. If he had saved Claudia, that also means he couldn't have saved Madeleine either, and Claudia would be alone all over again and hate Lestat even MORE than she already did, and Lestat would also be alone. He would never have saved just Madeleine, he doesn't know or care about her. The only choice for him was Louis, because he loves him. It really sucks that it was even a choice that he made, but it makes sense for the characters and the story. I think he came to Paris not for revenge, but to do whatever he could to save whoever he could, and it ended up being Louis.
There's also what everyone else has said; Claudia is a stand-in for Anne Rice's daughter. She could never have been saved. It's a tragedy about the loss of a daughter.
I loved this journey with you and I hope to continue it through the Lestat s3 teaser and season 3 and beyond! I'm so sorry people didn't let you feel your feelings. I enjoyed every thought (and as a Lestat stan, it's always MY personal favorite thing to see peoplego through the journey. Also, Claudia's death was an unavoidable tragedy, but thank you for caring about her like she deserves.
Thank you for being the perfect kind of viewer. Allow space for emotions to be felt, and lets the journey unfold. much love.
I love louie so much. Book louie isn’t NEARLY as dynamic and compelling as Jacob as louie. He deserves all the awards and I hope to see him next season cause he makes this show for me.
sadly claudia always meant to die because her character was inspired by Anne rice's is own daughter who passed away at a young age due to illness.. the story is meant to show the loss of a child and grief
it's not just that saving louis took too much energy out of lestat. if you go back and rewatch the trial, you'll notice that something is really wrong with lestat, like he's REALLY off. the long moments of him zoning out, swaying on his feet, almost falling into his chair. people on twitter having noticed he has bruises on his hands that look like defensive bruising, and there's a bunch of imagery that suggest he's being mind controlled and isn't doing this of his own volition.
plus i don't think louis, who's spent the last 80 years in a horrible relationship because he thought lestat was responsible for claudia's death (and left armand the second he found out he planned it) would go back to him if he wasn't sure that lestat wasn't a willing participant. (fuck those people for spoiling you with book facts tho i fucking hate when they do that it's so lame)
Anne (Louis) and Stan (Lestat) Rice's daughter died. Claudia is the child who wouldn't die...until she did. Of course she did because her writer couldn't keep her own blood cancer (leukemia) child alive, so she wrote Claudia's whole vampire world in a fury of drunken grief in San Francisco in 3 weeks. In S1 Ep7, a scene that chilled me as much as any was when Lestat attacked the dying man who had come seeking help, then spit him out: "A cancer of the blood!"
These writers are wicked (i.e. the Charles Manson song about a happy home they played at the end of S1 Ep5 when Louis had been dropped to the ground, directly referencing Daniel earlier in the episode saying that he sees Claudia as that psychopathic killer--"Charlie Manson wrote a couple beautiful songs, but..."). I love them!
Claudia, since she was a made as a child, but also being significantly younger, didn’t inherit Lestat’s « choice » over death. Her blood was too weak which is also why she couldn’t turn Madeleine herself :(
Also if you go back to the previous episode, you can see Armand go through the trial’s script and checking for his notes !
Claudia was a 5 year old white child in the book. So while I understand where you’re coming from, there was not intentional racial undertones in the original story. The fact that she was a vicious killer at that age was way more horrifying. The series gave Louis so much more depth and purpose than the books, which I love. Sam Reid and Jacob Anderson are the absolute best versions of these characters. I think Anne Rice would have been elated to see how they came alive in this series.
I have to agree. When Claudia uses the word ''stoning'' instead of 'lynching' I think it's meant to harken back to the Salem Witch Trials, in which the ''trials'' were public spectacles with pre-determined outcomes meant to amuse and control the masses. Also, I think the show was trying to make it clear the differences in attitudes between Jim Crow Louisiana and Paris in that time---Jonah in S1 mentions that's why he enlisted to go to Europe, and Louis explains the more tolerant atmosphere to Daniel both in '73 San Francisco and present day Dubai. There is also the lore from Anne Rice herself, who said that vampires don't see race or gender as they are so removed from mortal ideals and prejudices.
@@mouse2390i think claudia said "stoning" specifically because it was one of the ways that presumed nazi collaborators like madeleine were publicly punished.
SO sad that people cant get that reactors are literally just seeing everythingggg for the first time 😐 itsnt that what you WANT?? A DIFFERENT,, BRAND NEW PERSPECTIVE? idk it just bothers me to see how people act when people dont automatically know everything and dont agree with their character so they spoil stuff 🙄🙄🙄 grow up.
literally! As if it didn't take a couple of watches or other forms of media to fully bring the story together in our brains. smh it's so exhausting, but I guess it comes with the territory. Lowkey, i I'm happy I'm done with the show. Because these interactions are anxiety inducing. But that's just a small loud minority, most of y'all are awesome. Thank you
@@FrankFreezy_Ugh, that makes me upset tor you! Understandably I get it because these comment sections, esp for IWTV, can be ROUGH. I’ve had my share of internet arguments that turned problematic because I had a different interpretation. Smdh.
@@FrankFreezy_I really hate that for you but understand, I make reactions and some fandoms get intense 😅. Its just so boring to watch something and expect a specific response. I dont like that personally, for example Im a huge fan of lestat but I listen BECAUSE your perspective is different than mine. Thats the beauty! THATS the interesting part. Simple minded people smh.
Lestat couldn't have saved Claudia because the gamble of saving Louis relied on his (correct) assumption that Armand's fondness for him will be reason enough to free Louis from the crypt. Had Lestat tweaked Claudia's sentence (and Jacob confirmed in the episode insider that Lestat had strength to do that once) she would've simply starved to death beneath the theatre because freeing her from there would have required for a weakened Lestat to take on the Coven + Armand alone.
The Trial shouldn't be treated as an actual trial. It's literally a play with the verdicts that were decided beforehand.
I'm sorry i never told you how beautiful your artwork always looks in the background!!! but I cant wait to see the final process of the louis painting like WOW it looks incredible already!!! 🖤🖤
You're the best!
your reactions have been my favourite. the depth, empathy, nuance... it was a pleasure to watch, thank you.
I’m glad you were here for it💛
Also think of the whole Akasha thing as, Lestat gave his blood only a bit of the power. But Louis didn't embrace his power and Claudia couldn't use her full power because she was in a child's body.
Hey, just wanted to say I agree with you a lot, so while I understand you always explain yourself trying to prevent the angry mob of some of the fandom, thank you for being honest. I love getting to ‘have a conversation’ with someone in the fandom that shares my point of view :)
Many thanks. Always gotta be honest🧡
I don't even know what to add to this. Just thank you! It's been a lovely seen you go on this journey and share so thoughtful insights, I loved reading through the comments too and seen all different perspectives.
Thank you so much!⭐
I think that it will turn out that everything Louis and Armand said about Armand’s actions during the trial will turn out actually pertaining to Lestat: He was as much a prisoner as we were; He spent the entire time figuring out a way to save Louis; he could not prevent Claudia’s death.
You are such an incredibly thoughtful and considerate reactor. Thank you for being vulnerable with us. Claudia's death is something that none of us will ever recover from nor will any of the characters. Someone (I think the father of someone in the fandom iirc) said that everything in IWTV is about Louis and Lestat except for Louis and Lestat, which is about Claudia and I think that's right
All that said, I laughed SO hard as soon as you clocked what Daniel was about to do at the dining room table 😂 You knew! I love how your jaw dropped at the reveal that he's a vampire
And yeah, I can't watch Jacob's final scene without crying. I'm so proud of Louis. They did such an incredible thing when they made his reunion with Lestat one of grieving parents and not of romantic partners. "I'm companion enough for myself these days"! Incredible stuff
Thank you so much for all of your thoughts about this show, all the time and energy you've put into these reactions. I hope you'll react to the s3 teaser if you haven't already and I'll definitely be checking out your other reactions while we wait for s3 of this show (I'm LOVING your Fleabag reactions). And thanks again for recommending FoxTaco. I'm about to start watching his Severance reactions before s2 comes out and I'm looking forward to them too
I wish you didn't feel the need to defend your response 😕 it's YOURS! I enjoy that others are into this series as much as I am 😊 I am watching you, foxtaco & movieman... your emotional responses and insightful commentary are appreciated! Your art is great also!
I’ve enjoyed your reactions so very much, I wish I could put it into words. I’ve watched a lot of reactions to this amazing series and you’re one of my favorites! ❤
Lestat knew he had to be at the trial so he could do anything he could to save Louis. There was no way he was going to let them kill his love! I’m hoping in season three we’ll get to see Lestat’s point of view of what happened at the trial, and hopefully an explanation of why he couldn’t (or chose not to) save Claudia as well.
On a different note, I can’t stop staring at your gorgeous painting of Louis! Will you be selling it in your store? 🙏❤️
Armand is a awful a despicable little man. I love him.
I hate him
He's a little gremlin and he's not fascinating!
I feel exactly the same way about Armand. 😂 Especially book Armand -> 😇😈
Exactly
I feel you Frank. I wanna know to. I'm sure we'll get a better understanding after S3. We only have Armand's word on what happened. And the show runners are good at looping back and clearing up details.
I don't think Claudia had Akashas blood in her. Lestat had years on his own after they left him. But who knows the timeline is skewed from the books.
Between your last Episode of IwaV and this one, I have watched all th Episodes and baaawled my eyes out. It is peretion.
This shit is rough😭
@@FrankFreezy_ I swear it is. I already did not trust Armande and because I saw your reactions I paid attentions while watching. And we never hear what Lestat asks before he turned him. And the theater scene when we saw the other side, in my eyes where they the true scenes because Louis even says so, in with he says David he should write Lestats version.
They both were extremly toxic and in this lives the trauma both of them. Also in the outside views Louis seemed to be in a Psychotic state - like he was after Claudia's death - whitch reminded me of Paul. Just a thought. Another thought is, that when Louis and Armand find Lestat in his Makers Lair and he says he thinks about why he does what he does, is why he hurts the people he loves. Why he couldn't save Claudia. Gor me it was the moment he decided to change. It is why he lets him go.
The way how he asks if he hurt himself broke me, because not only his maker but Nicky too, kommited suicide.
Everthing Armande told us, is unreliable. Even in regards to Claudia and Lestate.
I also appreciated that they ended it with a hug and not with something romantic or sexual. Because there is soooo much care and Love in a hug that... It just felt, like they had to hold eatchother and have some more healing to do.
iwTv because Louis is THE Vampire😂
I, personally, find it very... interesting... how the bias towards Lestat - a character we, at this point, know only through the perspective of others, some of whom have a personal interest to show him in the worst light possible - can be so enormous, that one interprets Daniel's follow-up questions as further accusations towards Lestat. 🤔
YOUR PAINTING IS BEUATIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Your Hannibal reactions brought me here. This show helped me, after I had just finished Hannibal and it helped my heart 😂
22:09 - Nah, that is so legit. This fanbase is intense. Good and bad. It's been intense probably since before I was even born, but definitely for every decade that I've been in it. This fandom is not perfect, this fandom can be a lot. This fandom can be both terrible and wonderful. That's so true, for better and for worse. It really brings the passion out in people, and I think the main thing this tv series has done right[ among the many things it has done right] is that it has continued to do the same(really bringing all that passion out in people).
It's kinda wild to think just how much time has already passed since you finished this season-now MovieMan has caught up, too! 😊💖💖
For me, it's so hard not to just spoil everything sometimes because you three have such great thoughts and insights that I just wish I could get even more of them on even more things/aspects even though there's still so much that hasn't been explored yet and may or may not ever be. (But I know there are different motives from other commenters, too.) And I'm sorry, on behalf of that noisy minority, for all the struggles and mindfudge and need to brace for impact and such it can cause sometimes.
I think Lestat was shocked in the last episode. He thought that Claudia wholly hated him. So he may have felt like okay kill her, but when she looked back at him almost burned completely and him realizing she wanted him to save her and she did think of him as a parent that was supposed to protect her. I think those reasons is why Claudia will be a major part of grief and sadness and guilt for Lestat for centuries to come. Because if he had known that at the beginning, he would have saved her.
Amazing reaction!!
I think we will learn more about the trial - we only saw snippets of the objective Lestat moments in the show. That said- he made a calculated decision to save Louis with the limited power he had. I feel the same as you about Claudia, it’s so tragic she couldn’t finally live a happy life with Madeleine.
I love how petty and mean Louis gets, his vampire power is that he can summon his mother’s hater spirit from beyond the grave when he needs to eviscerate someone.
Your tears are my tears, it's been a time that's for sure 😭
Before watching your channel, I hardly ever watched reaction videos, but now I watch your work (and Taco's too!) like clockwork.
You have one subscriber here who isn't going to bow out with the end of this seaon 👍
But yeah, I cried about Claudia and Madeleine for weeks after watching this episode too, kudos to the writers for making the audience experience all the feelings and have you still thinking about the show long after the curtains closed
The Louis painting is phenomenal
i need to hear you and taco talk about this show, i just know it's great! it'd be cool if you two did a collab for season 3, either to watch the official trailer when it drops and/or to discuss your hopes and predictions for the season
Lestat had his own trauma, and Louis had his own trauma, and now together, due to what happened in Paris, they have shared trauma. Louis is now being open, honest, and non-judgemental, and Lestat is not in a good place. They feel more like equals now.
Before i even watch this, the Claudia part was so hard - even knowing it was coming. And yes, I had been staring at the Beauty painting this whole time because it's lovely and the yellow reminded me of Claudia. She arrived at my house last week so have to let you know she's even more beautiful in real life. The quality of the print is amazing and the color is so vibrant. I love your reactions but you are an outstanding artist. And if that's a portrait of Louis in the works behind you, im in lol. Thank you!
"I don't know it was a gift" that was Louis finally accepting himself as a vampire. He give similar speech in the book after he tried to kill himself in the book. Lestat and 2 other vampires bathe him in their blood to revive him back. Louis tried to kill himself earlier in the series than in the book. I don't think they will repeat the same storyline in the series. More story can be explore with Louis character if he accepting himself as a vampire earlier in the series. Louis and Lestat can't be just friends(you will see why next season or you can read Lestat's official song for next season called Long Face. He was very specific about Louis 😂) because some couple just meant to be. They're toxic af together but they also crazy for each other. The entire book series to me is their journey getting back together. Spoiler *In the book, Louis and Lestat eventually going to get married.
58:49 I appreciate that RAGE behind Claudia‼️😂👍 Eff these vampires frfr She was that GIRL‼️‼️😫😫😫😫😒🤣😫😫💯🫶🫶🫶🫶 I loved Madeline UGH don't PMO🥺😫😫😫😫🥺🥺✨️
[sorry I’m going to be annoying and post multiple responses as I watch this finale review lol - I haven’t commented a lot through your vids but have always enjoyed them] So! For your intro before actually getting into the episode (and no longer having to worry about spoilers for the show/first book) :
I am also really glad to see you discuss when you notice the racial dynamics in the show coming up - I don’t always catch all the nuance, and I think that’s a great aspect you can bring to the table to highlight. You put it very well that everyone brings something else to the table when it comes to upbringing to let you either interpret or catch nuance and symbolism in a piece of media - and learning more perspectives only enriches your experiences. ( I think I asked a while ago for this reason what your nationality was - as I was curious your perspectives you bring). So please don’t hesitate to discuss these qualities of a show to allow us to catch complexities we may not have otherwise!
I feel you with Claudia - she was an incredible - and tragic - character - especially in this iteration. If it helps at all - some background: The entire reason the first book got written was Anne Rice processing her own very real grief about the loss of her young daughter to cancer. Louis took the place of her and Lestat her husband. Despite Claudia always feeling sidelined in her own life, I think this show as a whole (as in seasons 1-2, “interview with the vampire” were ironically actually all about Claudia. It was Louis processing his grief. That was absolutely the focus of the narrative - he gives the relevant background: how he became a vampire, what it means, but he skims so much of his life but is so focused on remembering - and recording - every aspect, every thought about Claudia. He ends his story shortly after she dies and he has revenge on her killers - Claudia is what he’s trying to recapture. Getting out his story - His reunion with Lestat - all of it is in service of processing that grief - and keeping her memory alive (in the dress on the way) but no longer still dead in his grief, as he has been since she died.
(And I have also been watching MovieMan’s vids - his are great too - and ugh, I’m sorry that there have been people that have been making watching this incredible show stressful.)
✨Love your reactions. You’re so genuine! I have to say this is one of the only shows I’ve seen that at least attempts to examine racial and to a lesser extent historical (as in religious) attitudes and their consequences.
It was very well handled, I thought in the first season, the racial disparity between Louis and Lestat. Even when he was portrayed as being the most sympathetic to Louis with his troubles as a black man; it was incidental awareness, not understanding on the part of the character Lestat.
Coming from the Caribbean and being mixed race I felt they could have done more for the sake of the edification of their audience in season two.
Thank you so much. Your art is lovely and you’re a delight to watch. 🌞
As a book reader and having seen the movie from the 90’s I do try to compartmentalize all the different versions and take them on their own. But even with the best of intentions that’s hard, for me it’s the realization that I already was treating what happened to Claudia as a foregone conclusion or for other people having to pull from other media to justify their head canon for characters. Lastly, I generally prefer the changes the series goes with but making Lestat as involved in the play and pre-planning was a perplexing choice for me. But also we’re processing all this info over the course of an hour but the characters are experiencing these events over decades/centuries. 🤷🏻♀️ But I am just rambling now. I love this show and appreciate your reactions so much. ❤
Its frustrating to know that people spoiled some stuff for you to prove their point. I agree with you a 100%. I have not read the books or anything, so I don't know if there is a reason Lestat could not save Claudia. But whatever that reason is, it is completely valid to be frustrated with Lestat at this point in the story. If it was Louis under the sunlight, Lestat would have saved him. At least would have made an effort to save him or jumped into the sunlight himself. Let's see if we get any solid answers in season 3.
I loved that reunion between Louis and Lestat because for the first time in the show, I was not questioning the unreliable narrator thing. Also for the first time, I was not doubting their words. Their sentences were plain and simple with no double meaning/intention or hidden feelings. Most of the emotions were exchanged through facial expressions. The only scene where I didn't doubt what was being said.
Love that painting btw
I think the "gift" is life. Like in some way vampires act like gods...so yeah, life can be a shit. and Louie saying thank you for the gift is like saying thank you for life. Its like a second oportunity to live. Lestat is like a greek god. He knows what life is about. And esentialy Louie is a bad human, in the sense that he wants to die all the time. And what he embraces here with Lestat, is the fact that life is a gift, and we cant be angry with our maker, we have the duty to live.
no you are right they all failed her!
About what you were saying at 59:00, I get it. To be fair though, that scene was told through Armand's pov. I wonder if they'll leave that as the true way Lestat reacted, or if that will be told differently through Lestat's own pov in S3. If he talks about it at all.
I never skip your commentary! I do skip the "coming up" preview at the beginning but I do that with every reactor that does that - it's a trend I personally don't care for I wanna be surprised. But the bit where you give us your thoughts before diving in is a treat - you and fox running this show side by side has been a genuinely amazing experience. Y'all are both so empathetic and thoughtful but come at the show with different perspectives and I can't say I've experienced anything quite like it. I'm not going anywhere 🎉
Are you planning on watching the movie adaptation of Iwtv? it doesn't contain spoilers for future events of the series, it basically covers the first two seasons, I'm sure many people would definitely love to hear your thoughts on it, much love 🌻
Me watching as you keep commenting on why Lestat didn't do anything and isn't Armand powerful enough to step in, just knowing what's coming. :)
I think what Louis meant with the Gift is that as time has gone on, he has found a better life now all this time later than he might have had if he died like normal. He gets to live as a wealthy gay black man and he likes the modern day, he is glad NOW to be alive, especially in concept of the whole tale that he just finished with Daniel. He thinks the time/life he has right now is a gift.
I've subscribed to you a long time, so if you see this, I'd love to know if I can ask where your accent is from? It's lovely! edit: also your painting is BEAUTIFUL
Wow! Is it terrible of me to say I loved watching your impassioned reaction to Daniel's reveal?? I always love your opinions and analysis, even if I may feel different. They are heartfelt and real! In the books, this event with Claudia is a keystone moment that has repercussions throughout the entire series. So, the show producers HAD to do this scene. Book readers all knew it was coming. Although, it did make more sense in the book, because Claudia was only five years old in the book. There was no way she could ever live her immortal life as a five year old child. She would always need a companion and a protector and, as Lestat told Louis, she would resent it for the rest of her life. She was an aberration in the Vampire world and Lestat knew she could not continue to exist. Plus, there is some of the book concerning this event that was left out, that I will not reveal in case it is used in future seasons. But, yeah, since the show had to age up Claudia, it is much harder to explain this event, because a 14-year old Claudia definitely could have lived on her own, or lived a life with Madeline. Thus, it was more tragic and makes Lestat, Louis and Armand way more complicate in the murder of their daughter.
First of all, I’m really happy to see someone reacting to this show. Me & my bf found it by accident in 2022 and it was a blast, and we never understood why this show isn’t getting the recognition it deserves. I also read books previously and while I consider books and the show as a separate stories, I prefer the show due to some weirdness you can find in the books.
But also besides the fact you are reacting to this show I also was very happy to see your reactions being thoughtful. You always gave yourself space to talk and process. However, I don’t know how you were able to continue talking through that Louis and Lestat scene . I just ugly cried and went quite after the episode ended lol but I love your reflection.
To be honest, I think that this scene wasn’t as much about forgiving as it was about being accountable and finally admitting to things they both did. And I think they both are awful, and great, and good, and bad, and ugly, and beautiful. And I see this scene as them both finally seeing each other the way they are. It also something that’s I have been thinking a lot after it was revealed that Louis is unreliable narrator.
Anyways… can’t wait for season 3 and hope to see you reacting to it.
Claudia and Armand are my two favorite characters. this season all around has been one of my favorite pieces of media, just in general, but those two really shined during this one. delainey, assad, and jacob deserve all their flowers for this one. i really hope we get to see some more claudia, im not sure how that would happen, and im exited for armand.
i think the most tragic part, is that lestat didnt even try to save Claudia. he picked louis over her once again and didnt want to risk not being able to save him.
edit: just wanted to bring up the fact that armand was repulsed by the thought of making a vampire for over 500 years like he said, but he picked now of all times to turn someone? and it being Daniel on top of that.
I love this show so much and watching it with you was SO special. Your compassion for these characters and your commentary made your reactions some of the best I’ve ever seen. It’s like I’m watching and feeling the show for the first time again. Thank you for this experience and thank you for keeping it real, especially when it comes to Claudia.
And I am SO happy no one spoiled Daniel’s turning lmao