Kendall spoke fax when he praised y’all for giving “no named” players their credit. People forget that b-ball is a team sport. CP3 wouldn’t get praised for his greatness if he doesn’t have someone running the PnR with him
I think when scoring is supposed to be your best skill or what you are considered a superstar for and you're not scoring, then you're not performing at the standard people are accustomed to. But Tatum has surprised me with showcasing the fact he is more than just a scorer. His defense underrated I feel and he can rebound good and is a decent playmaker. Part of the problem is people expect Tatum to be dropping 30 points easy every night
Well I think primarily it’s playmaking ability and not talking facilitation. Big shots, big moments, making game defining plays, defensive stops and etc. Tatum does the intangibles and scores. He just lacks the playmaking factor.
No it's consistency, and that's Tatum biggest weakness. Some nights he looks like a monster, other night he looks like the 3rd best player on the Celtics.
Ox'a over glaze of role players gets annoying. He does it because it seems cool and other people dont do it so he thinks it makes him stand out. Same way he glazes the wnba. I do think he means the things for sure but he do too much and tries to put them over the stars just cuz they not talked about a lot
@emmanuelmondesir8677 no I agree but Ox tries to elevate them above stars just cuz he's biased. I love role players but he act like jrue the main reason boston is having success without noticing that when you put an above average role player on a team that often goes to the ecf and had the talent they have then yeah they're likely gonna be better m put jrue on Portland and they ain't winning and it's okay. He just need to tamper some of the glaze for certain guys. Like kcp impact ain't the same if he playing on certain teams
The notion that you aren’t in contention for MVP means you didn’t play at an MVP level doesn’t make sense. You’re saying Bron in 2016 didn’t play at an MVP level? That level is static year by year, era by era. If Luka averages 45/15/15 next year, that doesn’t mean that Jokic averaging 30/15/10 isn’t an MVP level.
I don’t know if he’s the best player, but the Celtics don’t play an offense that relies on 1 player. Their entire offense has been swinging the ball until you get a lane and then it has been a lot of jrue holiday and brown driving and kicking. So it doesn’t matter if JT has a bad game or if JB has a bad game. The issues come when the whole team as a collective has a bad shooting game.
Y’all let marz and swipa push narratives and y’all don’t refute them cause y’all scared of there sarcastic passive aggressive 😂 chill be out there fighting on his own. I’m a 6ers fan I know how good Tatum is. He broke the game 7 pts record on us 51. Y’all just be up here talking I don’t know what the Tatum agenda is, it must be to spite chill or sumn. & Embiid deserved his MVP led the league in scoring back to back and killed Jokic every time they met that year. And Jokic ended the year badly with a couple of loses and didn’t he miss a couple games towards the end of the season?? Smhh propaganda!
Tatum is trash only person to ever lead in pts rbs and ast and not have a finals mvp. Only chance they had not f-ing up the finals is letting brown take the wheel after 22 finals. Brown real team leader of celtics Tatum the marketing leader 😂.
Yeah let’s just 💩 on Jayson Tatum because he lead his team to the finals and isn’t scoing to his expectations, ppl can't praise brown without tearing the others down, reason why I can’t mess with sport talk shows
The Jayson Tatum hate is nasty...he's a better defender, rebounder and playing his way through a gentleman's sweep against Luka and yet we gon act like he's levels above...no Luka is a tall Steve Nash...
@@abelnaga3446they can win games without Tatum going for 25+ like in game 1 or 2 but I don’t think they can win a championship without Tatum having them high scoring games like in game 3. He just was doing that in the last 2 series
@@ninoboom2453 He's not wrong tho. Marz migth troll but he focuses mostly on facts and won't stand on a point that isn't proved, heck he will openly admit if he doesn't have enough info to debate a topic. If anything, he's sometime boring because of that. That's why you have somebody like Ticket who is loud and wrong most of the time to balance it out.
@@emmanuelmondesir8677 man don’t get me wrong Marz knows ball! But to call him a goat and all that shit is doing too much. There’s people on here who thinks everything he says is law! 🤷🏾♂️
Jaylen Brown is a better defender, more clutch, mentally tougher, and is a better playoff performer when it gets down to the NBA Finals and ECF than Jayson Tatum
JT is easier to build a team around, and players like luka, harden, lebron can do more with less talents but are not as easy to build a team around same with player like kobe and Jordan they are easy to build a round but cannot do more with less talent the luka does not have a off ball game same for James harden and lebrons is iffy, players like JT can play off ball allowing the team to play team ball, yeah his stats look nice but it don’t translate to winning as much this is why lebrons teams should be so dominant but all his finals have been hard for him, you can’t do the switch of luka and Tatum teams becuz the teams thrive on Tatums skill set just like the mavs are perfect for luka play style, you can’t build an OP team Around Luka But you can with Tatum
I disagree with this logic. 2016 is the example I’ll use. Steph was the only person to get a first place vote…..are we saying he was the only player in the league to play on a mvp level
he was the only person who played at the level worthy of mvp in that season. now others may have had seasons worthy of mvp in other seasons. but in that year they werent
Tatum has been placed on a pedestal that he should not have be placed on, I’ve never seen someone get so many excuses “for playing the right way” he’s essentially been Draymond green with less defense for these playoffs. Let’s not act like he isn’t shooting the ball a lot still, there’s no excuses for his %s being as bad as they’ve been. Jalen Brown is getting doubled too.
So you bought ur a$$ on the panel just to tell us u obsessed with JT just like the rest of the world 😂😂😂😂 can't stop talking about huh....I don't waste time talking about players I don't like that's why I don't talk about LBJ😊🍀🍀🍀😁 These 🤡 keeps talking about embiid who's a$$ JT keeps beating in the playoffs but he's better 🤔 and giannis who barely beats JT also but he's better at what tho?? dude can't shoot just dunks and ok on defense but ok😂
He was deep frying chill😂😂😂
tried tellin u guys its not hard to do what we do. shoutout Kendall
One might say a caveman could do it
Marz a real one no cap.
I mean if tickets tv can we all can.
@@Jean-c1hnah but see we didn’t play pro ball in Madagascar so we couldn’t do what he does
@@Kato2K5 that's funny I'm from Madagascar and I used to play there so I'm eligible to ticket 🎫🎟️
Man's said he was a fan of Chill but came here looking like an assassin 😂
Feels like the whole world hates Tatum
He is soft to be honest. I understand why they lost in 2022 now. Who allows wiggins to punk him
@@ycshittu5412he is soft
Losers can’t relate with real life winners
@@ycshittu5412 i mean Lebron got punked by JJ barea it happens
@@bigmo3692never hater
this bruddah was good spoke calm collected and was funny
Kendall spoke fax when he praised y’all for giving “no named” players their credit. People forget that b-ball is a team sport. CP3 wouldn’t get praised for his greatness if he doesn’t have someone running the PnR with him
The goat okafor and David west. Ayton. Bottom bread OKC.
Yall need to bring Kendall back. Voice of the chat fr😭
If Tatum wins he silences all the haters. Get the 💍
Tatum won't silence any critics with that performance. He didn't even play to his potential, if not for his team mates he will be just a normal star.
This championship was not because of him
Led the team in points rebounds and assists in the regular season, playoffs and finals but go off @@abc-lh7tb
Lames and losers still gonna hate 🤣😂🤣😂
is scoring the only thing people care about when calling someone the best player
I think when scoring is supposed to be your best skill or what you are considered a superstar for and you're not scoring, then you're not performing at the standard people are accustomed to. But Tatum has surprised me with showcasing the fact he is more than just a scorer. His defense underrated I feel and he can rebound good and is a decent playmaker. Part of the problem is people expect Tatum to be dropping 30 points easy every night
Well I think primarily it’s playmaking ability and not talking facilitation. Big shots, big moments, making game defining plays, defensive stops and etc. Tatum does the intangibles and scores. He just lacks the playmaking factor.
You become a superstar based off consistent offensive output that’s why he gets the big bucks and nominations for first team all NBA
No it's consistency, and that's Tatum biggest weakness. Some nights he looks like a monster, other night he looks like the 3rd best player on the Celtics.
@@Christo_Trismegistuswell he averages 27 8 and 5 so we expect at least 25 5 and 5 I mean most superstars are dropping 30 bombs almost every game so😭.
Dollar tree Scottie Pippen is diabolical 😂😂😂😂
I like the Micheal Jordan of Tobias Harris's better...!!!😂
Ox'a over glaze of role players gets annoying. He does it because it seems cool and other people dont do it so he thinks it makes him stand out. Same way he glazes the wnba. I do think he means the things for sure but he do too much and tries to put them over the stars just cuz they not talked about a lot
He is a Giannis hater
@@aboudramanediomande1075 yes!
@@aboudramanediomande1075it’s sickening
You need role players to win a ring. They deserve all the praises when they are elite at their role.
@emmanuelmondesir8677 no I agree but Ox tries to elevate them above stars just cuz he's biased. I love role players but he act like jrue the main reason boston is having success without noticing that when you put an above average role player on a team that often goes to the ecf and had the talent they have then yeah they're likely gonna be better m put jrue on Portland and they ain't winning and it's okay. He just need to tamper some of the glaze for certain guys. Like kcp impact ain't the same if he playing on certain teams
Put him on the Show Ron he is dope fr
He lead the team in points rebounds and assists
He better lead the team in points if he's taking the biggest portion of the shots...!!! 😂
The notion that you aren’t in contention for MVP means you didn’t play at an MVP level doesn’t make sense. You’re saying Bron in 2016 didn’t play at an MVP level? That level is static year by year, era by era. If Luka averages 45/15/15 next year, that doesn’t mean that Jokic averaging 30/15/10 isn’t an MVP level.
Y'all gotta bring him back
Kendall has some good points. Gotta do this again. 👍🏾
Swipa is a big Jayson Tatum hater 💯💯 ticket 2.0
But Tatum just soft. He better than JB but doesn’t play like that
Tatum definitely has more talent but Jaylen Brown is their best player
@@DanteGoldzhe soft let me guess is because he don’t avg 35 plus
@@dashawnhicks5384No it’s bc he’s scored 20 or less in 50% of his playoff games this season. When his best attribute is scoring….. be fckn serious
@@kash125lies
I don’t know if he’s the best player, but the Celtics don’t play an offense that relies on 1 player. Their entire offense has been swinging the ball until you get a lane and then it has been a lot of jrue holiday and brown driving and kicking. So it doesn’t matter if JT has a bad game or if JB has a bad game. The issues come when the whole team as a collective has a bad shooting game.
Brown and Tatum are both #3 overall picks in consecutive drafts. Idk why there’s some huge competition pushed by the public.
Y’all let marz and swipa push narratives and y’all don’t refute them cause y’all scared of there sarcastic passive aggressive 😂 chill be out there fighting on his own. I’m a 6ers fan I know how good Tatum is. He broke the game 7 pts record on us 51. Y’all just be up here talking I don’t know what the Tatum agenda is, it must be to spite chill or sumn. & Embiid deserved his MVP led the league in scoring back to back and killed Jokic every time they met that year. And Jokic ended the year badly with a couple of loses and didn’t he miss a couple games towards the end of the season?? Smhh propaganda!
Marz is the opposite of a narrative pusher, unless he’s trolling. 😭
what narrative did i push,u just be sayin my name
Tatum is trash only person to ever lead in pts rbs and ast and not have a finals mvp. Only chance they had not f-ing up the finals is letting brown take the wheel after 22 finals. Brown real team leader of celtics Tatum the marketing leader 😂.
This series will be won by the role players and who performs better
Yeah let’s just 💩 on Jayson Tatum because he lead his team to the finals and isn’t scoing to his expectations, ppl can't praise brown without tearing the others down, reason why I can’t mess with sport talk shows
The Jayson Tatum hate is nasty...he's a better defender, rebounder and playing his way through a gentleman's sweep against Luka and yet we gon act like he's levels above...no Luka is a tall Steve Nash...
a tall steve nash is a better player than jayson tatum lol. regular sized steve nash is better than tatum
Boston can win even without Tatum now, he has 3 bad games but they are still up 3-1. Which superstar has the luxury of doing that.
@@abelnaga3446they can win games without Tatum going for 25+ like in game 1 or 2 but I don’t think they can win a championship without Tatum having them high scoring games like in game 3. He just was doing that in the last 2 series
It's not hate, it's a different perspective. I hate when ppl face opposing perspectives and assume that it's hate it lacks understanding...!!!
Steve Nash is better imo...
He was on a roll until he said shai better then DRose
love marz he the goat hes actual comedian and the brightest b ball mind
This is glaze to the extreme! Get off your knees gang 🤦🏾♂️
@@ninoboom2453 He's not wrong tho. Marz migth troll but he focuses mostly on facts and won't stand on a point that isn't proved, heck he will openly admit if he doesn't have enough info to debate a topic. If anything, he's sometime boring because of that. That's why you have somebody like Ticket who is loud and wrong most of the time to balance it out.
@@emmanuelmondesir8677 man don’t get me wrong Marz knows ball! But to call him a goat and all that shit is doing too much. There’s people on here who thinks everything he says is law! 🤷🏾♂️
@@ninoboom2453it should be law,if everyone listened to me everyone would know ball
@@MarzTalksSports that’s crazy gang!
Great stuff guys
Jaylen Brown is a better defender, more clutch, mentally tougher, and is a better playoff performer when it gets down to the NBA Finals and ECF than Jayson Tatum
Buddy cookin yall lol.
Chill was BBQ 🍗 smh lol
Taurean prince caught a stray
JT is easier to build a team around, and players like luka, harden, lebron can do more with less talents but are not as easy to build a team around same with player like kobe and Jordan they are easy to build a round but cannot do more with less talent the luka does not have a off ball game same for James harden and lebrons is iffy, players like JT can play off ball allowing the team to play team ball, yeah his stats look nice but it don’t translate to winning as much this is why lebrons teams should be so dominant but all his finals have been hard for him, you can’t do the switch of luka and Tatum teams becuz the teams thrive on Tatums skill set just like the mavs are perfect for luka play style, you can’t build an OP team Around Luka But you can with Tatum
I like this thinking
Wow, the guy actually is pretty good at this lol. He's a natural for the Panels
Kendall was deadly in this debate
Yall need to bring bruh back on here
Just noticed there is no more PC anime, toonz.
Love chill he’s my favorite but he lost this one. Very time he brings up JT
Chill got COOOOOOOOOOOOKED lmao
Being the best player is mental and physical
ITS TIME FOR RON TO DROP DA LINK AND GET ME UP HERE. I WOULD BE COOKIN
Nahhh chill got cooked 💀
fasho bring him back. great debate. tatum jus aint that guy plain n simple
Jayson Tatum isn’t going to average 30 playing on this Celtics team.
Daniels should be a regular
Shout out to bro have him back on if you can
I disagree with this logic. 2016 is the example I’ll use. Steph was the only person to get a first place vote…..are we saying he was the only player in the league to play on a mvp level
he was the only person who played at the level worthy of mvp in that season. now others may have had seasons worthy of mvp in other seasons. but in that year they werent
I agree with chill
luka not up there w jokic embiid n giannis
The Celtics needed a true point guard like Zo who's a more talented version of Jrue. White's a good backup point guard that should win 6MOTY.
Zo a more talented version of Jrue?😂 White a good backup point guard?😭💀 There’s still time to delete this my man
Casual
My thoughts when they signed Kemba but white is a more than capable starter. He's in the 90th percentile in alot of categories.
I might’ve lost it on chill with the dumb shit he says shout out to bro
20:21 💀💀💀
Tatum has been placed on a pedestal that he should not have be placed on, I’ve never seen someone get so many excuses “for playing the right way” he’s essentially been Draymond green with less defense for these playoffs. Let’s not act like he isn’t shooting the ball a lot still, there’s no excuses for his %s being as bad as they’ve been. Jalen Brown is getting doubled too.
SGA stats were the same last year so he was definitely better then JT last year
Hall of fame what i reallly wanna know
Cornbread won the finals MVP and he wasn’t the best player on the team, it’s a team sport!!!!!
Chill 🧢..he’s clearly said in the past Tatum can be the best player in the world
😂😂😂 he's not that guy 🙄 he is for my C's haters 😎🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
I been saying Tatum overrated, he just looks so good cause the teams he has
Well he showed up in Game 5 when it mattered
2:11 Mars is 100% incel
Who is this dude ? I wanna know who is he bruh
kendall
Tatum is so overrated
Lol, the young guy is better than them.
You all are speaking 💩
JT is the 23/24 NBA MVP
Tatum is overrated and I'm a Boston Celtics fan I can't stand Tatum
@@bryonstevenson1084 you are not a Boston fan you was a Boston fan… come Monday JT & JB will have they first championship trophy 🏆
No you are. Brown is finals mvp
@@bryonstevenson1084 that more sounds like jealousy to me
No he isnt💀
yo
L Tatum hate
Speaking the truth is not hating
So you bought ur a$$ on the panel just to tell us u obsessed with JT just like the rest of the world 😂😂😂😂 can't stop talking about huh....I don't waste time talking about players I don't like that's why I don't talk about LBJ😊🍀🍀🍀😁
These 🤡 keeps talking about embiid who's a$$ JT keeps beating in the playoffs but he's better 🤔 and giannis who barely beats JT also but he's better at what tho?? dude can't shoot just dunks and ok on defense but ok😂
Chill is crazy tb Russell better than drose drose didn’t even have a prime and at his peak was better than russ
Who tf is this? Somebody let me know