Didn’t really “prove people wrong” its only one test and one example of a failure mode. The slow mo clearly shows the addition of the scaffolding helped contain the energy and keep the cage in place. Even then the scaffolding seriously moved. I don’t agree with the idea of proving people with a valid concern and good intentions “wrong” …..the cage isn’t mangled like a cartoon but would you stand next to it an repeat the test?
@@jons6125 seriously Name the solution The comments section on TH-cam You do realise he has H&S consultants don't you think about it ffs Also think about this anyone making these wild claims even ask what grade the steel was
Split-Rim OR Split-Ring? Split rims (the originals that halved into two parts) aren't really ever used any more, But, Split-Ring rims are and there are two types, the old narrow flange type (known to fail to seat/bed properly) and the new of them that uses a wide flange to lock onto the rim and provide more area for the tyre bead to seat on. All that aside, having a tyre blow near you is bad enough that it'll require fresh underpants. Having one blow as you are leaning over it, the chances for injury or death are well above 70%, i think. It's not pretty and that's a given. Wife has a family member that had a rim blow up in his face. nearly took half his head/face off. Scary stuff.
@@TheHungrySlug there are videos of split rims coming apart if you do a search. scary stuff. i will not run them on any vehicle i own & I'm glad the ones my dad had are gone.
I should perhaps add, in Australia and for most other places. But old stuff on farms and where ever else, I wouldn't doubt someone would keep using them. I would actually be amazed if anyone is still using the original style of split-rims on a road registered vehicle. But again, I've seen my fair share of videos of people and cars and bad practices.
I have to say not only have you proved how strong your tyre cage is, but proved how strong todays tyres are also remoulds can be. Loved your reaction when it actually went pop though.
20 years back, one of my friends from automotive college was killed by a brand new car tyre. It let go when he was inflating it on the tyre machine, horizontal at waist level. Something like this could have saved him. Despite people being killed by this, manufacturers of tyre machines still don't provide safety cages. Daniel's going above and beyond here, top bloke.
So nice to see your tyre guy getting recognition and being involved and also shown as being part of the Ashville team. These guys work wonders, often in horrible conditions and are so often overlooked! Well done `Tyre Guy` and well done All. Loved it, great video, thank you.
Maybe try an old tire where you’ll actually get explosive belt separation… that would be interesting to see. I personally think the controlled sidewall failure was a little too controlled.
IIRC cages are also intended to contains things like rim failures where most of the steel goes flying one way or there other with a lot more energy than demoed here. That said, that's not as much of an issue on the types of rims being used here as it is with split rims that can do that as a result of being assembled incorrectly.
Specifically from Split RIM Desgine. There is no need to use a Tire cage for modern rim desgins. A cage is made for Split Rim wheels only really. Modern rims a very safe compresser relief come on Doesn't happen nope......Now your playing with fire mounting and airing up a old Split Rim you'd better use a cage then.
@@Mr.XJ.96 OTOH the amount of energy that could be released explosively from a modern rim fracturing is a lot. If you already *have* a cage, there's little reason _not_ to use it and a slight potential of a major up side to using it.
Hi Daniel, appreciate your review of your tyre cage and it’s safety aspect however, tyre cages are/were used when wheel rims consisted on more than 1 part. These wheels are known as split rims, 2-piece rims or 3-piece rims. These were tubed tyres opposed to 1 piece rims being tubeless. Following the replacement of a tyre to a 2-piece, 3-piece or split rim a tyre fitter had to ensure the pieces were correctly aligned and the locking ring held in place whilst the wheel was being re-inflated. The cage was used to protect the tyre fitter in the event that the split rim came apart during inflation. In the event of the locking ring failing the air pressure in the tyre/tube would force the rings apart directing the locking ring straight at the tyre fitter. The steel construction of the cage would retain the ring therefore protecting the tyre fitter. I started fitting commercial tyres to rims in 1984 and have the experience to comment with the above. Great vids and keep up the great work.
Exactly!! i worked next door to a commercial tyre fitter that had a locking ring stuck halfway through a wooden roof joist , i asked about it and the guy said thats complacency!! we had done hundreds of locking rims, all done the same way and one day one just decided to let go......... guess someone got lucky their head wasn't between the wheel and the roof.
Came to say the exact same thing. Growing up in rural Australia I'm also very familiar with split ring tyres and the dangers of them. Cages were designed for multipart rims, not for exploding tyres. A popped tyres is scary and dangerous but nothing compared to a rim flying apart with 100psi or more behind it
Worked for Texaco trucking in late 80s-early 90s. Walked away from a few used tires airing up when we were busy. Loud bang, gust of cold air and the tire may move a couple feat. wouldn't want that air blast horizontal though. Those split rings on the other hand were no joke. That cage would just become shrapnel. Our cages were 2 inch, thick wall, box steal, welded 12 inches on center. We scraped 3 in the time I worked there because they were too deformed and one garage door because the new guy didn't use the cage.
Your right, tyre cages were originally designed for split rims. However it’s always best to use a cage for all types of commercial fitting when you have one available
There is nothing safer than you making your own stuff,as you spec it to a higher grade as it is your LIFE that is at risk. As an ex tyre technician i also made my own cage and due to the company buying cheap inferior tyres i sadly was greatful for the cage on various occasions. Goes to prove there is nothing wrong with making your own. Keep up the great work Daniel 👍
This is the best channel on TH-cam!!! Daniel has turned TH-cam into the altimate testing ground for everything Construction...Well done DAL and your amazing crew!!! No one, I mean no one is doing what you guys do on TH-cam...Both here in the U.S. and abroad...Stay Blessed and Safe Guys!!! Hugs & Blessings for the U.S. 💋💋💋
I retract all my critique😂 The one we use at my workplace has waaay thicker steel, that's why I was a bit wary of that thin steel👍 Glad you have people with the skill and experience to create something like that👌
You only have to ask what grade the steel is lol The steel used is for holding concrete floors together it's heafty not tubular like the one you use sounds like
I was taught that tyre inflation cages were specifically designed for split-rim wheels. Too many farmers were ... erm ... 'buying the farm' when inflating split-rim tractor tyres.
Hi I used to work on trucks years ago and occasionally do tyre changes, that was when the rims were the split rim tube type things from yesteryear. I was told that you don't have to worry about the tyre bursting as the running pressure is far lower than the burst pressure and only to worry about the split rim parts not seating correctly so as the pressure builds the parts shuld seat and contain the circlip butt occasionally a circling may not seat correctly and the whole assembly would explode and so was the need for the tyre cage.
Yes, escaping air is pretty loud (priceless reaction there). In essence it's a blast wave contained in a container, an explosion without a bomb. Air can be tremendously deadly and air tank failures are a nightmare of many engineers. After all, you've seen yourself how far that camera was thrown. Pretty good test, would be fun to see a rim failure.
Brilliant video, not only showing how strong modern tires are but also the modern engineering behind the rims, thank god the old split rims are gone, it used to be the rim would split and explode before the tire would.
The "blowout" happened to the area forcing the tyre towards the wall by escaping air velocity, but the lower security chain still unhooked! If the blowout had occurred on the wall wide "maybe" the chain could unhook and the wheel escape the cage. Chain requires a security link (carabiner) to attain retention of the wheel. Entertaining as ever...and insightful!
i think if the actual rim went during a pressure up the results would be alot more different, this was controlled compared to when a rim breaks in half or tyre debeads and rockets sideways
Once one tyre did go on our trailer while I was hauling wheat. The tyre had 9 bar in them and I almost made a second sunroof to our tractor when it exploded. It was fun changing it on a busy road and obviously, it was the one that faced towards the traffic.
Workshop compressor where I worked,the compressor was set at 110 psi maximum,that was all we ever inflated our tyres to when new ,repaired or retreads were inflated to 100 psi. Never trust a tyre ,even when inflating tyres with with low pressure on the vehicle, connect and stand 6ft back then inflate, especially on a tipper truck.
Bound to bound bound for the remould 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 interesting video - running out of compressor before you run out of sidewall and good to durability test the remoulds as well
Cages were a actully made for split rim bus/truck tyres, not modern day single pice rims, to stop the rim killing some one if it wasn’t installed correctly
They're now used for both, originally there were only split rims, it's still just as important to use them for one piece wheels as, the whole rim/tyre assembly can easily kill or injure you in the event of a tyre explosion
I knew a guy who built his own tire cage out of soft steel. He said "I only died once!" after a truck tire he was filling blew. Tire manufacture haa improved a lot over the decades.
I worked for a company building Aircraft Tugs. We had one explode a tyre at Heathrow, and it brought out the Bomb Squad. It blew 10 mil. plate off the wheel arches. and created a lock down.
I have a suggestion to make the cage even more safe, using some sort of carabiner to close the chains so even if some sort of totally freaky (and not plausible) accident happens, the chains could not jump out like in the video. I'm in the construction industry and I really love the approach of the Ashville team regarding safety.
No doubt someone may have already commented these cages were primarily designed for inflating split rim wheels, although a conventional rim tyre explosion is highly dangerous a split rim failure is far more dangerous as the rim and locking ring would bend the cage out of shape, without a cage the flying components would be released with such extreme energy anything in its path would be fatal, so I would like to see the results of your cage with a split rim wheel, how you would make it fail is another question
In my 20 years in the commercial tyre industry. I had 5 truck tyre's explode on me, luckily I could hear them zipped first, and move just out of the blasting. 😮😮😮😮.
Maybe try that again on tired NOT rated for 120 PSI. Maybe a normal street tire rated around 40 PSI would be easier to pop without damaging the tire first.
Lad I used to work with pumped up his low profile tyres on his beamer one day, Didn't realise you have to release the gauge to get the reading, He genuinely thought it wasn't pumping up. He got that bad boy up to 9 bar (130psi) whilst kneeling next to the thing... He was a very lucky guy that day. haha
I really hope that the cylinder of the compressor was rated to the pressure that is was supplying. Winding up the pressure cutout doesn't increase the pressure that the tank can withstand.
Makes a TONNE of sense. Since these tires are make to withstand 20+tonnes of load (in a grouping of 8+) they must be blowout proof for drivers of large coorps.
Had a trailer tire explode during a road service call yesterday. Driver didn't know when it went flat. From what I could tell, the auto inflation airline wasn't* fully screwed on, allowing air to leak. I only had a 2ton ratchet strap attached to the rim. I estimate, based on time without valve core for my service truck, to be at around 70psi when it blew. Upon inspection afterward, the liner on the inside had a thin ripple on both sides where the tread met the sidewall. Glad I had that strap on it.
I've been told from by the old generations of truckers when truck tyres used to have inner tubes that those could be very dangerous if for some reason the inner tube tore apart facing the rim. All the force from the air rapidly pushed on the rim like a very powerful punch and the result were pieces of the rim flying off like shrapnels.
Now, Daniel, a point, rims fail and tyres fail usually due to faults; either manufacturing or usage fractures. ALMOST No tyre [truck tyres] blow from excess pressure ~ your average industrial compressor is set to blow safety value @ 150 PSI ~ though it's over 27 years since I was there so !
That's a lot of work for internet trolls/keyboard warriors. I wouldn't have bothered, but I will gladly watch any mid-week Ashville. Tire cages are over rated for any new tire. As you have just proven. Keep it under 90, you're good.
When I was a young lad, I worked in a tyre shop. Once I had a wheelbarrow tyre explode in front of me. It wasnt secured in any way and wasn't attached to the wheelbarrow. I was sitting in front of it, not on the side of it. One of the people who worked there told me to put in X amount of bars. He thought I understood it was a joke, I didnt. Tyre exploded and I fell backwards on myself. I didnt hear anything. There was just a lot of dust and I got confused as to what had happened. Manager came running out worried about what had happened. I think the jokester got a firm talking to.
I remember a tires shop down the street from my house in Los Angeles. One of their workers was airing up a truck tire with a locking ring, when the whole thing exploded. The blast sent the lock ring, and the employees head through the roof, and across the street 100 feet away. Pretty grisly.
Proper job and now we all no it’s probably better the the actual ones but only one thing I did see tho is I Think you should put the chains on carabiners tho to stop them Flying off just in case it gos the way the your tire guy is standing
Interesting. Did it pop at the patch area or somewhere else? Definitely try with the split ring rims. I thought it blew in the sidewall and not from the re-tread area.
Great video mate just to let you know Daniel for insurance purposes your tyre guage and tyre cage are classified plant and need to be certified. Also that guage has a number on it in the face of the guage and you must have it tested and certified to make sure its accurate for compliance with your insurance requirements. I'd say it's a bit out after going over like that
I feel like he would be aware of this before risking it for a video. I really doubt a man with his experience wouldn't have been aware, even if he didn't, his tyre fitter with all his experience would 100% refuse to fit tyres afterward had it not been safe to do so
@@xthathdgamerx555 that is a worthy opinion but mistakes are often made and risks are sometimes not seen always better to make sure those risks are apparent
Comment field expert here! I think failing rims would posses a greater risk than failing tyres. A friends dad had a rusty tractor rim fail, his cowrker died (rim in head) and he ended up in a shorter coma. I'm not sure if the rim hit him too, or if it was from the preassure wave. Ha had broken ribs and collar bones, so I guess it hit him too.
Awesome job testing your cage .. Hopefully it'll never be needed outside of the testing, but at least you'll know your techs will be safe of/when one does let go...
Ibr I started watching this drinking a few red ones and when. Man started breaking ur down I just said man like Daniel from Asheville 😂🤣😂🤣 and laughed love it energy
Primary safety concern isn’t when the tire fails, rather it’s when the wheel fails first. It’s that chunk of shrapnel (or split rim) that becomes a projectile.
Random video but interesting and love the passion. As someone who lives around some commercial vege farms and did my own vulcanizing for a bit, most the ones i have seen have been from the rim having imperfections around the bead or the laws of thermal dynamics coming into play...So its about doing it right and making sure things are up-to scratch, car/motorbike tyres can do same thing so be warned. The only gripe i have with small % of drivers is having bald tyres either on big machines or cars but so many people get complacent and don't realise how much your stopping distance changes and its often not your life you put in danger. Keep having fun :)
Tire cages are not primarily about tire failure as much as wheel failure. The tire itself, while it can do alot of damage, a split rim coming apart is where you can really do some destruction.
split rims are the majority cause of injury, I believe. split rim technology allows the components to weaken over time, and then inexperienced ppl do not inspect the rings/wheel lips, and install them to only have the worn components become missiles. this is the true safety aspect of the cage's intention.
I put up to 120 truck tires together a day back when they had 3 pc. rims if I forgot to pull the hose the tire blew I can't remember what max air pres was
Daniel took the comments about the tyre cage personal, made a whole stand alone video to prove people wrong.
Love the fact he did this but generally the majority who have watched and watched long term know he knows wot he's doing and didn't comment
Didn’t really “prove people wrong” its only one test and one example of a failure mode. The slow mo clearly shows the addition of the scaffolding helped contain the energy and keep the cage in place. Even then the scaffolding seriously moved. I don’t agree with the idea of proving people with a valid concern and good intentions “wrong” …..the cage isn’t mangled like a cartoon but would you stand next to it an repeat the test?
Calm down Jon
@@thelightofficial666 yeah sorry I forgot this is only a light hearted entertaining video about if the life saving safety device works. 😅
@@jons6125
seriously
Name the solution
The comments section on TH-cam
You do realise he has H&S consultants don't you think about it ffs
Also think about this anyone making these wild claims even ask what grade the steel was
Would love to see the test done again on a split rim that is either faulty or assembled incorrectly.
Split-Rim OR Split-Ring?
Split rims (the originals that halved into two parts) aren't really ever used any more, But, Split-Ring rims are and there are two types, the old narrow flange type (known to fail to seat/bed properly) and the new of them that uses a wide flange to lock onto the rim and provide more area for the tyre bead to seat on.
All that aside, having a tyre blow near you is bad enough that it'll require fresh underpants. Having one blow as you are leaning over it, the chances for injury or death are well above 70%, i think.
It's not pretty and that's a given. Wife has a family member that had a rim blow up in his face. nearly took half his head/face off. Scary stuff.
@@TheHungrySlug there are videos of split rims coming apart if you do a search. scary stuff. i will not run them on any vehicle i own & I'm glad the ones my dad had are gone.
yess this is the tire that takes everyone out seen one ring go through a wall was nuts
@@TheHungrySlug Automotive i can't comment on, but in plane wheels split rims are common.
I should perhaps add, in Australia and for most other places. But old stuff on farms and where ever else, I wouldn't doubt someone would keep using them.
I would actually be amazed if anyone is still using the original style of split-rims on a road registered vehicle.
But again, I've seen my fair share of videos of people and cars and bad practices.
I have to say not only have you proved how strong your tyre cage is, but proved how strong todays tyres are also remoulds can be. Loved your reaction when it actually went pop though.
It's only the tread that is renewed, not the actual ply. Retreads come apart from centrifugal force, not inflation.
@@chippyjohn1correct. I do supply the best retreads tho 💁🏻♂️
Safe to say, this time, Daniel was indeed... Shook!!!
🤣😂🤣😂
Shook!!! We can remind him every time 😅😅😅
Man's serrrrrious
20 years back, one of my friends from automotive college was killed by a brand new car tyre. It let go when he was inflating it on the tyre machine, horizontal at waist level.
Something like this could have saved him.
Despite people being killed by this, manufacturers of tyre machines still don't provide safety cages. Daniel's going above and beyond here, top bloke.
Split rims are the issue. Not the tires. What are you boners even talking about
So nice to see your tyre guy getting recognition and being involved and also shown as being part of the Ashville team. These guys work wonders, often in horrible conditions and are so often overlooked! Well done `Tyre Guy` and well done All. Loved it, great video, thank you.
Maybe try an old tire where you’ll actually get explosive belt separation… that would be interesting to see.
I personally think the controlled sidewall failure was a little too controlled.
Ya, looking for a rim failure. Tires blow up all the time.
Belt separation lol.
Absolutely loving the animations! They're top quality and make it a lot easier to understand
IIRC cages are also intended to contains things like rim failures where most of the steel goes flying one way or there other with a lot more energy than demoed here. That said, that's not as much of an issue on the types of rims being used here as it is with split rims that can do that as a result of being assembled incorrectly.
Specifically from Split RIM Desgine. There is no need to use a Tire cage for modern rim desgins. A cage is made for Split Rim wheels only really. Modern rims a very safe compresser relief come on Doesn't happen nope......Now your playing with fire mounting and airing up a old Split Rim you'd better use a cage then.
@@Mr.XJ.96 OTOH the amount of energy that could be released explosively from a modern rim fracturing is a lot. If you already *have* a cage, there's little reason _not_ to use it and a slight potential of a major up side to using it.
Hi Daniel, appreciate your review of your tyre cage and it’s safety aspect however, tyre cages are/were used when wheel rims consisted on more than 1 part. These wheels are known as split rims, 2-piece rims or 3-piece rims. These were tubed tyres opposed to 1 piece rims being tubeless. Following the replacement of a tyre to a 2-piece, 3-piece or split rim a tyre fitter had to ensure the pieces were correctly aligned and the locking ring held in place whilst the wheel was being re-inflated. The cage was used to protect the tyre fitter in the event that the split rim came apart during inflation. In the event of the locking ring failing the air pressure in the tyre/tube would force the rings apart directing the locking ring straight at the tyre fitter. The steel construction of the cage would retain the ring therefore protecting the tyre fitter. I started fitting commercial tyres to rims in 1984 and have the experience to comment with the above. Great vids and keep up the great work.
Exactly!! i worked next door to a commercial tyre fitter that had a locking ring stuck halfway through a wooden roof joist , i asked about it and the guy said thats complacency!! we had done hundreds of locking rims, all done the same way and one day one just decided to let go......... guess someone got lucky their head wasn't between the wheel and the roof.
that's what i said they were originally designed for split rims
Came to say the exact same thing. Growing up in rural Australia I'm also very familiar with split ring tyres and the dangers of them. Cages were designed for multipart rims, not for exploding tyres. A popped tyres is scary and dangerous but nothing compared to a rim flying apart with 100psi or more behind it
Worked for Texaco trucking in late 80s-early 90s. Walked away from a few used tires airing up when we were busy. Loud bang, gust of cold air and the tire may move a couple feat. wouldn't want that air blast horizontal though. Those split rings on the other hand were no joke. That cage would just become shrapnel. Our cages were 2 inch, thick wall, box steal, welded 12 inches on center. We scraped 3 in the time I worked there because they were too deformed and one garage door because the new guy didn't use the cage.
Your right, tyre cages were originally designed for split rims. However it’s always best to use a cage for all types of commercial fitting when you have one available
There is nothing safer than you making your own stuff,as you spec it to a higher grade as it is your LIFE that is at risk. As an ex tyre technician i also made my own cage and due to the company buying cheap inferior tyres i sadly was greatful for the cage on various occasions. Goes to prove there is nothing wrong with making your own. Keep up the great work Daniel 👍
This is the best channel on TH-cam!!! Daniel has turned TH-cam into the altimate testing ground for everything Construction...Well done DAL and your amazing crew!!! No one, I mean no one is doing what you guys do on TH-cam...Both here in the U.S. and abroad...Stay Blessed and Safe Guys!!! Hugs & Blessings for the U.S. 💋💋💋
I retract all my critique😂
The one we use at my workplace has waaay thicker steel, that's why I was a bit wary of that thin steel👍
Glad you have people with the skill and experience to create something like that👌
You only have to ask what grade the steel is lol
The steel used is for holding concrete floors together it's heafty not tubular like the one you use sounds like
Are you sure yours isn't just using hollow beams?
have you ever handled old split rim for trucks?
You were tired of the thin steel?
I expect you meant "wary".
This guy's cage is much thicker steel than most of the cages I've used through the years.
I was taught that tyre inflation cages were specifically designed for split-rim wheels. Too many farmers were ... erm ... 'buying the farm' when inflating split-rim tractor tyres.
What I was going to say! You beat me to it! 👍
Hi
I used to work on trucks years ago and occasionally do tyre changes, that was when the rims were the split rim tube type things from yesteryear. I was told that you don't have to worry about the tyre bursting as the running pressure is far lower than the burst pressure and only to worry about the split rim parts not seating correctly so as the pressure builds the parts shuld seat and contain the circlip butt occasionally a circling may not seat correctly and the whole assembly would explode and so was the need for the tyre cage.
Yes, escaping air is pretty loud (priceless reaction there). In essence it's a blast wave contained in a container, an explosion without a bomb. Air can be tremendously deadly and air tank failures are a nightmare of many engineers. After all, you've seen yourself how far that camera was thrown. Pretty good test, would be fun to see a rim failure.
Brilliant video, not only showing how strong modern tires are but also the modern engineering behind the rims, thank god the old split rims are gone, it used to be the rim would split and explode before the tire would.
That man was ‘Shook’ when it exploded!!😂
Lovely update, I'm guessing we'll see that explosion reaction a lot more often in your videos
The "blowout" happened to the area forcing the tyre towards the wall by escaping air velocity, but the lower security chain still unhooked! If the blowout had occurred on the wall wide "maybe" the chain could unhook and the wheel escape the cage. Chain requires a security link (carabiner) to attain retention of the wheel. Entertaining as ever...and insightful!
Yea, hammer over and weld those hooks into a lashing eye, then get a couple of decent carabiners to securely attach them
Your great at explaining things and credit to you and your team for editing
Ashville BANGing out the content midweek 😂
i think if the actual rim went during a pressure up the results would be alot more different, this was controlled compared to when a rim breaks in half or tyre debeads and rockets sideways
Now.. Put Tezza in the cage, and keep giving him jobs to do.. See how much pressure he can take
Upvote this comment 😂😂
Feed him beans n' haggis.
Once one tyre did go on our trailer while I was hauling wheat. The tyre had 9 bar in them and I almost made a second sunroof to our tractor when it exploded. It was fun changing it on a busy road and obviously, it was the one that faced towards the traffic.
2:58 shoutout to the editing team… good job lads
Brilliant Daniel reaction was hilarious
Workshop compressor where I worked,the compressor was set at 110 psi maximum,that was all we ever inflated our tyres to when new ,repaired or retreads were inflated to 100 psi. Never trust a tyre ,even when inflating tyres with with low pressure on the vehicle, connect and stand 6ft back then inflate, especially on a tipper truck.
Who needs the Discovery Channel when you’ve got content like this !
Cage stood up but DANIEL WAS SHOOK BUT FISRT TIME FOR EVERYTHING 👏👏👏👏 well done Asheville love your content 👏👏👏👏
Bound to bound bound for the remould 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 interesting video - running out of compressor before you run out of sidewall and good to durability test the remoulds as well
I'm gonna say itt 🎶 S**t it blew up ... can everyone stop pressuring tyres 🎶🎶
Glad to see only the tyre is going for scrap ,well done !!
Top video Daniel. Great to see you being such a conscientious employer👍
This made my day, great vid 🔥
Cages were a actully made for split rim bus/truck tyres, not modern day single pice rims, to stop the rim killing some one if it wasn’t installed correctly
They're now used for both, originally there were only split rims, it's still just as important to use them for one piece wheels as, the whole rim/tyre assembly can easily kill or injure you in the event of a tyre explosion
I knew a guy who built his own tire cage out of soft steel. He said "I only died once!" after a truck tire he was filling blew.
Tire manufacture haa improved a lot over the decades.
I love the commitment to shut people up 😂
Tyre shook production 😂 well done Daniel
I worked for a company building Aircraft Tugs. We had one explode a tyre at Heathrow, and it brought out the Bomb Squad. It blew 10 mil. plate off the wheel arches. and created a lock down.
Is it worth putting a chain through the middle to stop it swelling out or the tyre rolling ?
Should've invited some uni student to participate... man got "shook"😂
Can’t wait see all the videos now off the face Daniel pulls when the tyre w pliers 😅
The tire KING seems like a 10/10 guy!
Man was shook when it bang!
I have a suggestion to make the cage even more safe, using some sort of carabiner to close the chains so even if some sort of totally freaky (and not plausible) accident happens, the chains could not jump out like in the video. I'm in the construction industry and I really love the approach of the Ashville team regarding safety.
No doubt someone may have already commented these cages were primarily designed for inflating split rim wheels, although a conventional rim tyre explosion is highly dangerous a split rim failure is far more dangerous as the rim and locking ring would bend the cage out of shape, without a cage the flying components would be released with such extreme energy anything in its path would be fatal, so I would like to see the results of your cage with a split rim wheel, how you would make it fail is another question
In my 20 years in the commercial tyre industry. I had 5 truck tyre's explode on me, luckily I could hear them zipped first, and move just out of the blasting. 😮😮😮😮.
10:05 but his underwear would 100% need changing lol 😂
Can't start to tell you how glad I was to see this upload. Well done 😁
Been waiting for this 😂😂
I have a feeling well be seeing that clip on loads more vids. Shook.
Seriously, middle of the week.nice one 😂
Maybe try that again on tired NOT rated for 120 PSI. Maybe a normal street tire rated around 40 PSI would be easier to pop without damaging the tire first.
Lad I used to work with pumped up his low profile tyres on his beamer one day, Didn't realise you have to release the gauge to get the reading, He genuinely thought it wasn't pumping up. He got that bad boy up to 9 bar (130psi) whilst kneeling next to the thing...
He was a very lucky guy that day. haha
Glad to see it working so well! The chain whip when the tyre explodes could be lethal though! Watching it in slow mo made it look worse 😂
I really hope that the cylinder of the compressor was rated to the pressure that is was supplying. Winding up the pressure cutout doesn't increase the pressure that the tank can withstand.
Big up the tyre dude he’s a lad 😂
He's a Rock.
🎉❤❤❤ always following...have learnt a lot from you Daniel, 🇿🇲 Zambia ❤
Makes a TONNE of sense. Since these tires are make to withstand 20+tonnes of load (in a grouping of 8+) they must be blowout proof for drivers of large coorps.
Had a trailer tire explode during a road service call yesterday. Driver didn't know when it went flat. From what I could tell, the auto inflation airline wasn't* fully screwed on, allowing air to leak.
I only had a 2ton ratchet strap attached to the rim. I estimate, based on time without valve core for my service truck, to be at around 70psi when it blew. Upon inspection afterward, the liner on the inside had a thin ripple on both sides where the tread met the sidewall. Glad I had that strap on it.
I've been told from by the old generations of truckers when truck tyres used to have inner tubes that those could be very dangerous if for some reason the inner tube tore apart facing the rim. All the force from the air rapidly pushed on the rim like a very powerful punch and the result were pieces of the rim flying off like shrapnels.
Brilliant glad to know da tyre fitter will be safe👍
Now, Daniel, a point, rims fail and tyres fail usually due to faults; either manufacturing or usage fractures.
ALMOST No tyre [truck tyres] blow from excess pressure ~ your average industrial compressor is set to blow safety value @ 150 PSI ~ though it's over 27 years since I was there so !
Should call your tyre fitter Thor he’s an animal the way he mounted that tyre like a bicycle tyre. Legend
That's a lot of work for internet trolls/keyboard warriors. I wouldn't have bothered, but I will gladly watch any mid-week Ashville. Tire cages are over rated for any new tire. As you have just proven. Keep it under 90, you're good.
After reaching your compressors limit you could of used a co2 bottle when full they are well over 800psi
When I was a young lad, I worked in a tyre shop. Once I had a wheelbarrow tyre explode in front of me. It wasnt secured in any way and wasn't attached to the wheelbarrow. I was sitting in front of it, not on the side of it. One of the people who worked there told me to put in X amount of bars. He thought I understood it was a joke, I didnt. Tyre exploded and I fell backwards on myself. I didnt hear anything. There was just a lot of dust and I got confused as to what had happened. Manager came running out worried about what had happened. I think the jokester got a firm talking to.
I remember a tires shop down the street from my house in Los Angeles. One of their workers was airing up a truck tire with a locking ring, when the whole thing exploded. The blast sent the lock ring, and the employees head through the roof, and across the street 100 feet away. Pretty grisly.
Proper job and now we all no it’s probably better the the actual ones but only one thing I did see tho is I Think you should put the chains on carabiners tho to stop them
Flying off just in case it gos the way the your tire guy is standing
Nice! That was fun to watch. Keep Safe everyone.
9:12 Daniel was SHOOK 😂🤣
Interesting. Did it pop at the patch area or somewhere else? Definitely try with the split ring rims. I thought it blew in the sidewall and not from the re-tread area.
Great video mate just to let you know Daniel for insurance purposes your tyre guage and tyre cage are classified plant and need to be certified. Also that guage has a number on it in the face of the guage and you must have it tested and certified to make sure its accurate for compliance with your insurance requirements. I'd say it's a bit out after going over like that
Both need to be inspected every year
I feel like he would be aware of this before risking it for a video. I really doubt a man with his experience wouldn't have been aware, even if he didn't, his tyre fitter with all his experience would 100% refuse to fit tyres afterward had it not been safe to do so
@@xthathdgamerx555 that is a worthy opinion but mistakes are often made and risks are sometimes not seen always better to make sure those risks are apparent
Dan got shook,I'm serious 😂😂😂😂
We should talk more rubbish to get more videos out of him 😂 Great video!
I've been right next to tyres and heard them do that popping sound at 60-70 PSI and I didn't realise how dangerous it can be
Now you know 😅
The man was shook!!
1:50 that’s funny, my name is Donovan as well 😂😂
Wow! Awesome video! 👏
ps , they are rated half of what they can do , no chain lock ? whats going to stop the chain whipping if it lifts up ?
Having worked in a tire shop. I approve of this video. That and our cage was probably 5X sketchier than yours.
Carnt be working you hard enough haha 1 through the week top 1 made my day 🙏💯👊
Interesting video. Learnt something I didn’t know
The way that tire technician moves around and how hard he works, all I can think is that he has a full English breakfast every morning.
Daniel came un all guns blazing on this one!
😂 0:21 Okay … glad your experimenting with these new type of content
Comment field expert here! I think failing rims would posses a greater risk than failing tyres. A friends dad had a rusty tractor rim fail, his cowrker died (rim in head) and he ended up in a shorter coma. I'm not sure if the rim hit him too, or if it was from the preassure wave. Ha had broken ribs and collar bones, so I guess it hit him too.
Awesome job testing your cage
.. Hopefully it'll never be needed outside of the testing, but at least you'll know your techs will be safe of/when one does let go...
WhistelinDaniel durability test & he is not fuming.👌🏽
Ibr I started watching this drinking a few red ones and when. Man started breaking ur down I just said man like Daniel from Asheville 😂🤣😂🤣 and laughed love it energy
Sounds like you need to Start Manufacturing Tire Cages!!
Primary safety concern isn’t when the tire fails, rather it’s when the wheel fails first. It’s that chunk of shrapnel (or split rim) that becomes a projectile.
Random video but interesting and love the passion. As someone who lives around some commercial vege farms and did my own vulcanizing for a bit, most the ones i have seen have been from the rim having imperfections around the bead or the laws of thermal dynamics coming into play...So its about doing it right and making sure things are up-to scratch, car/motorbike tyres can do same thing so be warned.
The only gripe i have with small % of drivers is having bald tyres either on big machines or cars but so many people get complacent and don't realise how much your stopping distance changes and its often not your life you put in danger.
Keep having fun :)
this is also a good showcase of the difference of a patched tyre and a new tyre.
Tire cages are not primarily about tire failure as much as wheel failure. The tire itself, while it can do alot of damage, a split rim coming apart is where you can really do some destruction.
split rims are the majority cause of injury, I believe.
split rim technology allows the components to weaken over time, and then inexperienced ppl do not inspect the rings/wheel lips, and install them to only have the worn components become missiles.
this is the true safety aspect of the cage's intention.
i approve this tyre safety infomercial.✅✅
I put up to 120 truck tires together a day back when they had 3 pc. rims if I forgot to pull the hose the tire blew I can't remember what max air pres was
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Keep up the great work