Sean Price and Joe went bar for bar, it wasn't a battle but Price was just too nice. I respect any and all emcees that's nice. Some are just gifted, and make it seem effortless. It takes practice, even the greatest lyricist wasn't always ILLMATIC. Both of these guys can rap. R.I.P. - SEAN P!!!!
Nas is not the greatest...hes not even top 10 in my eyes...Nas just came in during a diff era..my era was diff....there's many mcs who werent marketed n labeled like Nas was who can rhyme 10 diff styles with 5 diff flows on 5 diff beats...Nas is limited...but hes legendary status 4 sure
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 k rino?...na bruh...i can just list 10 mcs who are technically better than Nas...but technicality and preference r two diff outlooks
This wasn't ghost-written, Joe Buddens wrote that on his forums because he basically got murked straight up by Saigon. The first diss was a reaction, this was the killer aka no more disses. So Saigon put a bit more effort in I'm guessing.
Well damn, where have I been? This is the 1st I'm hearing this (added straight to playlist) Saigon absolutely ripped it but to be honest the instrumental only woulda killed budden.👊
See the way I see it and I may not be right well its right for me its one of those to each his own type of things but i digress... The way i see it is the outside world is irrelevent if you battling someone you use all you have at your disposal if someone said tht to me in a battle it wouldn't effect be its something i'd expect and respect because you respect me enough to come at me with everything.. obviously he doesn't think his kids gay its just a battle tactic. No mercy in war
This diss is crazy...I would put this up there with eminem diss tracks. I love Slaughterhouse but I think Joey bit off more than he could chew with Saigon. They obviously respect each other's abilities since they made a record together.
ahhhhhh i love dis shit, good ass battle. both of deez niggaz killin it, i hope joe responds and i hope saigon goes back on wat he said n makes more disses as well.
Why would Saigon have ghostwriters, he isn't famous enough... Obviously this song is better then the first one, did it sound like he was trying at first, it was short and hardly said anything personal. That is what I hate most about Joe Budden fans, they always make lies to protect him..
YO Rap battles are the best, testing one's lyrical Ability for the bragging rights of Rap Supremacy. With that being said SAIGON Got the best of Joe Point Blank Period if you think otherwise either your a hardcore Budden Fan or you lack the comprehensive skills to compute Incredible Rhymes... It's nice tp know they squashed their Beef good music. ..
@@kylegardner9458 what does that matter?! What's better Is better...I know of indy diner's that make burgers way better than Burger King...but who sells more?! Now I hope this basic example was good enough to prove u wrong
@@kylegardner9458 yeah like Joe's music career was this rocket that took off or something 😂 I like both as emceed but Saigon tore him up with this and his response after this was weak
This was the hardest anyone came to beating Joe but he still lost. He admitted so. 1. He said he couldn't eat or sleep for days after pain in his life. 2. He said I'll give Joey the letter J and then called him a gerbil lol. 3. He admitted it on blogtv back in the day.
@@villy4556 because joe didn't drop the diss he recorded responding to Joe. Him and Wu ended the beef before it happened it was over 7 minutes he destroyed deck and niggas would've looked at deck different. Real jbtv fans heard the response that was a body.
@@ad8547 That's because Joe didn't respond. He had 250 bars slaughtering deck but they ended the beef before he dropped the track. What deck dropped wasn't close to what Joe had for him. 🤷🏿♂️
Saigon Suprised everyone and came back hard as fuck with this song. Pain in his life was dope but buddens is a seasoned battle MC. this was saigons first battle and this song was the best of the 4 in my opinion.
This is sick
Im a Joe Budden fan but man this was hella fire 🔥 😬
He buy everything, bi polar, bi curious. Ooooooooohhhhhh!
Saigon wins, the beat was the background fatality 😁
this shit a classic, idgaf what nobody say, too many quotables lmao
2022 the year and dam this still be hard.
Fucking incredible song
'I notice he thinking he's smart, like he can think me apart,, How he the brain when he's Pinky at heart' niiice!
man when that Pump it up beat kicked in I was like "DAMN!"
Then he proceeded to do nothing with it
Oooah
THIS WAS TOO HARD. EVEN JOE HAD TO ADMIT THAT THIS WAS FIRE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Saigon went innnnnnnnn
Still a classic
Wasnt he acting like a gangsta at the Apple bees but when his man got slapped he blamed Vald tv 🔥 🔥
Damn I Slept ON this Diss!💣💪🏿
R.I.P. Joe Budden
This shit 🔥🔥
Sai did go hard on this.. alot of personals..
Saigon been hard
This diss goes hard 🔥
SAIGON SHITTED ON JOE BUTTONS
1:01 Saigon dissing the internet trolls and keyboard warriors unconsciously.
Saigon violated on joe budden, god DAMN. When he did the letter to j, and used his "pump it up" beat he destroyed him.
ayo joe got murdered on this shit....thouroughly goes to show that even joe got stans......its serious when every bar is aimed at someone.
This has got to be one of the best diss tracks in recent memory if not ever... top 10 for sure.
jimmieweathers pain in his life was better this was great too classic battle between two of my fav rappers
My boy sai got him there. Finally. Joe been getting him, but sai finally got him on this one.
damn Saigon violated Joe's life
Sai flame joe right here
WOW... that was hard
Chill Joey
this is hard it has that ole school feel!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sai 2 and 0
I agree 100000% wit you OGJake, Saigon suprised the shhit out of me. He killed Joe wit this shit!!!
dam Saigon got at dude, didnt know about this
I thought Sai went in on Joey with this.
dieselshug he did but I think Joe's was harder and his first was much better than sai's first diss by far
Man this shit was a hard response.
I miss this
real battle rap
Yes sir this is what rap is not this mainstream autotune mumbling singers rap is supposed to be underground
Once he did the J's it was over!
3:36 best part
saigon did his thang on nis
what kinda grown ass man be saying 'aaaaooohhhhh'
Saigon got washed by Slaughterhouse but this diss was funny, especially the “what kinda grown ass man be saying OWGHHHHH”
This is the truth
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😷 sai went the fuck off..then he pumped it up
Sean Price and Joe went bar for bar, it wasn't a battle but Price was just too nice. I respect any and all emcees that's nice. Some are just gifted, and make it seem effortless. It takes practice, even the greatest lyricist wasn't always ILLMATIC. Both of these guys can rap. R.I.P. - SEAN P!!!!
Nas is not the greatest...hes not even top 10 in my eyes...Nas just came in during a diff era..my era was diff....there's many mcs who werent marketed n labeled like Nas was who can rhyme 10 diff styles with 5 diff flows on 5 diff beats...Nas is limited...but hes legendary status 4 sure
Ryan DeMarco your top 10 must be trash then, lol Let me guess you got 2pac at numbah 1 lol casual that or your a Bis/k-rino rider
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 k rino?...na bruh...i can just list 10 mcs who are technically better than Nas...but technicality and preference r two diff outlooks
Ryan DeMarco it’s been a month I really don’t care at this point
I feel sorry (almost) for anyone who a Joe Budden fan.
This wasn't ghost-written, Joe Buddens wrote that on his forums because he basically got murked straight up by Saigon.
The first diss was a reaction, this was the killer aka no more disses. So Saigon put a bit more effort in I'm guessing.
Jeeeeesus 😳 That man MURDERED Budden.
Weapon x u jubilee... was dope
Well damn, where have I been? This is the 1st I'm hearing this (added straight to playlist)
Saigon absolutely ripped it but to be honest the instrumental only woulda killed budden.👊
Saigon bodied him
See the way I see it and I may not be right well its right for me its one of those to each his own type of things but i digress... The way i see it is the outside world is irrelevent if you battling someone you use all you have at your disposal if someone said tht to me in a battle it wouldn't effect be its something i'd expect and respect because you respect me enough to come at me with everything.. obviously he doesn't think his kids gay its just a battle tactic. No mercy in war
Damn I was a Joe fan and just hearin this he did his thing
How this dude release Underachiever, then release THIS?
No clue lol, he came off on this one! Wow. I think Joe did great on his too but this was TOUGH!
He said he did that as bait
Mikie King Saigon wins if his first one wasn’t so wack. Joe wins
This diss is crazy...I would put this up there with eminem diss tracks. I love Slaughterhouse but I think Joey bit off more than he could chew with Saigon. They obviously respect each other's abilities since they made a record together.
Listening man both these guys where monsters when is it came to lyrics
Buddens my dude but Saigon got him on this one.
Joey if I’m weapon x then u jubilee Wtf 😬 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
and buddens has none in two whole songs, I bet joe even started crying when sai talked lil trey
Damn saigon gave this nigga joe budden a hella of a match on this track
ahhhhhh i love dis shit, good ass battle. both of deez niggaz killin it, i hope joe responds and i hope saigon goes back on wat he said n makes more disses as well.
By 2009 I wasn't listening to much music. First listen in Aug21. This was freaking hot.
Why would Saigon have ghostwriters, he isn't famous enough...
Obviously this song is better then the first one, did it sound like he was trying at first, it was short and hardly said anything personal. That is what I hate most about Joe Budden fans, they always make lies to protect him..
when i hear this, i immediately think of joe getting snuffed by raekwon and his man, lol.
I fuck wit Joe but saigon bodied his ass facts!
best of the four
Both ripped each other apart this was a great beef wish it went back and forth more I would call this a draw
lol the thing about this track that makes this hot
most of what he`s saying is true
Jadakiss saying 'its gd but not gd enough' comes to mind
banks jay lol
the list goes on
method man
Holy ! Wow . Didn’t know it was this serious .
DUUUUDE! Savage!
..what's the name of this beat??..
dam son! when the beat switches to pump it up sai stops playin around
Absolutely slaughtered Joe
Saigon destroyed joey
This is better than any song Budden has ever put out... Sai just better at rap
All fucking cap
Classic
🔥🔥🔥
this is a great diss track protect ya neck joey !!!
saigon should be added to slaughter house
Agreed
No
YO Rap battles are the best, testing one's lyrical Ability for the bragging rights of Rap Supremacy. With that being said SAIGON Got the best of Joe Point Blank Period if you think otherwise either your a hardcore Budden Fan or you lack the comprehensive skills to compute Incredible Rhymes... It's nice tp know they squashed their Beef good music. ..
Fairplay Terrific stop it track for track they went 2 rounds n Joe easily won and I'm a Saigon fan the second round was close tho
johnnnyoh dude this track was the knockout punch...
johnnnyoh and I don’t even like Saigon at all
Buddens diss was better. Sorry
This absolutely slays Budden. If you disagree, LISTEN
Lolol yeah cuz Saigons career really took off after Pain in His Life huh
@@kylegardner9458 That's not saying anything. Nas won the beef against Jay but Jay had a more successful career.
@@playstation4lyfe263 Well Jay did a lot of questionable shit in the mid 2000s to keep his status.
So fair.
Still Pain in His Life is a better record.
@@kylegardner9458 what does that matter?! What's better Is better...I know of indy diner's that make burgers way better than Burger King...but who sells more?! Now I hope this basic example was good enough to prove u wrong
@@kylegardner9458 yeah like Joe's music career was this rocket that took off or something 😂 I like both as emceed but Saigon tore him up with this and his response after this was weak
saigon won hands down
word up yo.
Just came to change the flowers on Joes rap career 🥀
This was the hardest anyone came to beating Joe but he still lost. He admitted so.
1. He said he couldn't eat or sleep for days after pain in his life.
2. He said I'll give Joey the letter J and then called him a gerbil lol.
3. He admitted it on blogtv back in the day.
Skrap_Gap I’m crying at #2
@@villy4556 because joe didn't drop the diss he recorded responding to Joe. Him and Wu ended the beef before it happened it was over 7 minutes he destroyed deck and niggas would've looked at deck different. Real jbtv fans heard the response that was a body.
Deck Murdered Joe.
@@ad8547 That's because Joe didn't respond. He had 250 bars slaughtering deck but they ended the beef before he dropped the track. What deck dropped wasn't close to what Joe had for him. 🤷🏿♂️
@@WestSideBarson Ha.. I'm sure 🤫
I fucks wit joe....but sai got em on this
Holy shit
Saigon wins.
kevin harrison except that first one was absolutely trash so he loses the total battle
Nah he made it debatable doe buddens bars was better
Saigon killed Joe. Flawless Victory for Saigon
its funny cuz hov did and still responds
back in these days i did...not so much anymore...
joey just jots in his journal
hahah sai giddy murks...
nuff said
He went in a tight end came out a wide receiver.
I see no one heard Joe's response 😅
they are friends now
He murdered Joe using the j words then the pump it up bro this whole song is crazy
i listened to both diss trcks and saigon won lol feel free to argue with me
He did I was impressed he slaughtered him
Hong N Saigon tapped out.
Only reason he won is bc of the pump it up beat lol
yea sai def won. never really battled and he showed up. joe burden underestimated him
Tie.... Letter to saigon > Under achiever (terrible).... this > pain in his life
Saigon Suprised everyone and came back hard as fuck with this song. Pain in his life was dope but buddens is a seasoned battle MC. this was saigons first battle and this song was the best of the 4 in my opinion.
Ouch!
actually rhymefest already said he wrote this for saigon
Lies