I used to jog around that area at night back when the tower had just completed. One time while I was running past it, I decided to stop and look up, it was so big I immediately lost balance and fell over.
copyright@joseph1150 The Empire State Building was completed during the early 1930s, and was mostly empty for several years. At opening there was pretty much only 1 tenant above 7th floor, and for almost the entire decade there wasn't even elevator service past floor 40 other than for the observation deck. The building wasn't profitable until the 1950s. I could see a similar situation for this building.
I work in a spiral shaped tower in Japan. The floor layouts are very strange, especially since a large majority of the floors are classrooms for various colleges.
Its actually called, "self consolidating concrete" or SCC. It's also a slightly more tricky mix to make consistently. It is usually used for larger mass pour, or monolithic, foundations.
@@alargefarva4274 how many yards? I'm an engineer and work on a couple of massive projects atm. One is a massive new LNG terminal and the other is a new unit for Chevron-Phillips. Largest mono pour we've done on either of those sites was a 3,600 yard compressor tabletop. They had 3 pump trucks and trucks running from 11am until about 4am.
@@kalu19991 good question... im PRETTY sure they still vibrate it in the forms, and I'm positive that the engineers who test it don't have to vibrate it. The testers just do a spread, pendulum, and column test on it and make a set of 4x8 cylinders. They also have to put temperature sensors inside and check the temperature as it cures for several weeks. Depending on the dimensions, the temperatures must climb steady for so many days and not get beyond a certain temp, and then it must cool at a specific rate.
My favorite building is the Shanghai World Financial Center. These buildings are beautiful and could even rival any super tall building in Dubai. I wish we had more buildings here in the US like some of these but the reality it probably would not make much sense anymore with so much vacant office space now available.
I went to the top floor back in 2015 while it was still unfinished, together with one of the lead architects and his official photographer. We could not see the view because of the clouds LOL. The elevator was super fast.
@@fixpacifica I've lived there my whole life, I think it started getting better in the mid 2010's, though the 2000s were pretty bad. I remember laughing with friends when the news from Paris said they were panicking over a pollution rating of like 30-40 ppm.
@@fixpacifica Air pollution, most likely. Shanghai's PM 2.5 is routinely > 150. Last December I stayed in the Jinmao hotel right next to the Shanghai Tower. Every morning I could see the whole city in "morning fog" from my hotel room. A breathtaking view indeed. Only later I realized that was actually smog 😅
Haha Simon Whistler is a TH-cam veteran of many channels 😂 and this is also my favourite Simon channel. The first channel of his I ever watched and how got to know his content was through biographics and TopTenz 😊
The floorplate problem is insurmountable. The Shanghai Tower is unquestionably the nicest looking of the super and mega tall buildings, but the cost per usable square metre of floor space is too high for tenants.
@@PerfectSense77 this has astonishingly large greenhouses which are public spaces. An eco system with its own weather! How do they handle air movement? Is there more oxygen and better negative ions? Is it healthier to be in this building than it is outside?
I was one of the first people to go up into the observation deck here. It was early May of 2016 and we didn't know it wasn't open yet. We just thought it looked cool and wanted to go check it out. The ticket office wasn't open/staffed so they allowed us to go up with an escort and take a few pictures. There was only us and a news crew up there. It was cool. Probably the only free thing we did in China. And those elevators are super fast!!
Scary fast, but over the years you get used to it. It's definitely not empty. The company I work for has 12 floors. Pretty dumb propaganda video. Typical of Simon. Parroting American propaganda for clicks....
Your picture at 6:32 is actually the interior of the adjacent Jin Mao Tower (looking down to the foyer from inside the Grand Hyatt Hotel). Accuracy is important...
@@beta__6109 the estimated energy efficiencies were optimistic, I understand they get much less. It is difficult to get numbers. There are many different approaches achieving various improved efficiencies. Understandably, or tellingly perhaps, the building is shy to reveal actual numbers. But it was experimental, so much learned. I am fascinated with this building, it's my favourite. I wish someone would look at each of the systems and discuss actual efficiencies achieved.
I’ve stayed in the other two neighbouring towers, both Hyatts. It was quite something to stay atop the Jan Ming Grand Hyatt looking down on the other skyscrapers from my room. It was even more spectacular moving next door to the WTC and the Park Hyatt and looking down at the Jan Ming and often even clouds!
Suggestion for an alternative title: "A Colossal Erection in Shanghai" . Re: the time it will take to fill the building with tenants. The usual lifespan quoted for concrete is 50 to 100 years, and that is for high quality concrete under moderate conditions. Rebar helps, but it can rust fairly rapidly in wet, warm climates. The cost of carefully deconstructing something with this much mass and stored gravitational energy, without taking down neighboring buildings, could be a significant fraction of the cost of building it. Current real estate/economic problems in China suggest that "ironic" might be a better word than "iconic" to describe this building.
Despite its challenges, this is by far the most beautiful and elegant skyscraper in the world. I’m not sure how it translates to others in pictures but in person it is an embodiment of the Venus de Milo! I’m very proud of the USA’s contribution!
@@MuchCow9000a million times more. Shanghai tower isn’t the most beautiful, let alone by far. It’s fine, but just another tower of glass, albeit with some curves.
It’s obviously a stylistic difference in opinion. The Burj is impressive in it own right. But you do not get the same understated elegance and the effortless grace. Shanghai , when you stand at it’s base, has a sense the structure is physically rotating in the breeze. If you like a skyscraper that insists upon itself, I could see how you’d prefer the Burj. I think I can hear it calling now, “Hey, look at me!!! I’m the tallest in the world!!!” Thanks Burj. We know.
Have you seen it in person ? That always makes a difference. I get that you disagree. No argument here! I just feel differently! In the end, both towers speak for themselves! And both are marvels of design and technology. So their beauty is again in the eye of the beholder. I just happen to be the right beholder!🥸
So, the level of attention to detail in this channel is usually great. It's part of why I watch it. But "tallest skyscraper in Asia"? But seriously, is Dubai not in Asia?
They used to call it the Empty State Building ya know. It's the most iconic of the four including the Pearl Tower I think. The plan you showed is highly intriguing: plenty can be done with that. I think it's well laid out.
It is a unique kind of skyscraper, at least for it's truly unrivaled volume size. I assumed it would probably take many years to actually fill in the building with tenants, simply because it's such a huge volume. But out of the current World's Top 10 Tallest, it is actually my favorite design ever since the exterior was completed. (ツ) ☕☕(ツ)
I live beside the Shanghai tower and regularly visit the place every week. Several of my Friends works there too. It is getting busier by the year. I still remember when it just opened, it is like a deserted building whenever i visit. Now its very busy. I don't know about its occupancy rate but the top half has been taken by a hotel and the office space has been occupied by several major company like JP Morgan has moved in. I don't agree that the tower is a failure, but it sure has a slow start and the pandemic really makes things worse.
Bingo! This is not a local issue. Calgary and Jakarta both have vacancy CBD rates over 30%... I'm in Edmonton where it's just below 20% to this day despite being the fastest growing major city in Canada...
Also in 2017 we built the tallest building in Canada outside of downtown Toronto and it's still only half occupied. Luxury condo's remain empty, full floors aren't used... 1.4 million sq ft, 66 floors, 251m/823' and $500M later... And again at night it's an empty obelisk to an economy that has changed faster than they could put up the already peeling off glazing...
Architects design for the clients. Architects DO propose but CLIENTS dictate THEIR needs. Nationality of designers is irrelevant. "He, who has the gold, makes the rules. Quit your "America bashing".
At least the Shanghai government is rich and able to bail out the building of and operation of the tower and thus is still functional. Both Tianjin and Wuhan have an unfinished >500m skyscraper each just sitting there after their developers went broke. In 2020 the central government banned new buildings over 250 meters tall and new ones above 100 meters need to be “culturally significant or reflect Chinese culture.” Good riddance I would say.
Gotta love the shodiness of Chinese overall infrastructure. There is a reason why flushing toilet paper, in the few toilets that exist in China, will clog the toilet every time.
no it's not, Merdeka 118 is cheating, just like that one in Dubai...a stick can be erected on Shanghai Tower and make it "tallest" building in the world..
You should update your video, Wikipedia literally shows the following: "In December 2022, it was reported that, following its initial pre-pandemic tenancy issues, the tower had reached office space occupancy rates of 80% and commercial space occupancy rates of 98%. The tower management disclosed that 41% of its leased space were to foreign company tenants, which included JPMorgan, CNG Paribas and Allianz, and 30% were to Fortune 500 companies.[50] Current tenants of the tower also include Alibaba, Intesa Sanpaolo and AllBright Law Offices." Pretty lazy research.
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That’s taller because of a stupid antenna not because the there are actually occupiable floors like the Shanghai tower. They have a bar restaurant in the Shanghai tower high up there. I just saw several you tube videos on it.
I wonder why a video posted hours ago is relying on information from 2019?? Specially of a country like China where things move super fast! First of all, China is not like the West. They build things first and then they create demand. They can do that due to their huge population. Secondly, by 2019 almost 70% of the building was filled in yet the video is saying that more than half of it was empty. Come on, let's be serious! And lastly but not least, in 2021 the world's highest hotel (J Hotel) opened exactly in that tower which ened up filling the remaining floors. How could this team have missed that?!
Speaking of "economy in the clouds", I feel like you guys could easily write an episode on artifical intelligence and what influence it will have and call it something like "AI, an ecomony in the cloud(s)" or something like that
you only used data up to 2020? by end of 2022, it reported 80% occupancy. At 10:18 you used a night time picture of the 3 towers in which many officers are closed for the day.
Yet it was the observation deck revenue from both that keeps the lights on. Even to this day the ESB only makes $10M from renting office space yet $90M+ from tourist observation fees... Pretty sure Shanghai Tour is the same... Ditto for WTC, Willis, and any number of super-skyscrapers around the world. Also why every tall NYC building has one... $$$$$ makers...
Are we forgetting that it was during the Great Depression and World War II that the ESB had trouble getting tenants. Even the early days of the WTC did not have the level of vacancy that the Shanghai Tower has, and that's with two mega tall skyscrapers.
I think since late 2022, the building's occupancy rate is over 80%, commercial spaces are 98% rented. The same thing cannot be said about other skyscrapers in Shanghai though, a lot of other buildings are around 50% empty.
Did you know Dubai and Kuala Lumpur are in Asia? Did you know that the tallest and second tallest skyscrapers in the world are in Dubai and Kuala Lumpur? You know, in Asia? Did you know that the third tallest skyscraper in the world is shorter the tallest and the second tallest skyscrapers in the world?
Simon probably means the tower was meant to be the tallest in East Asia. The Kuala Lumpur tower has just started construction when the Shanghai tower was completed.
Probably just a rushed edit but could have said second tallest when started or planned to be second tallest but then eclipsed by the KL 118 / Merdeka Tower.
The Merdeka 118 is only 502.8 metres to the highest occupiable floor, compared to 585.4 m in the Burj Khalifa and 583.4 m in the Shanghai Tower. Congratulations Merdeka 118 builders, you managed to make the second "tallest" building in the world by sticking a giant spike on the roof. 26.1% of the Merdeka's official height is vanity height (the Burj Khalifa is 29.5% vanity). The proliferation in the use of vanity height makes highest occupiable floor the only sensible metric for comparing buildings.
I prefer the Malaysian Kuala Lumpur skyline method comlare to how shanghai does it. 3 towers with different architecture design together looks too mixmatch. Especially the Jin Mao which looks outdated compare to the other 2. Not to metion the other large building that typically accompany the picture of there 3 tower that added to the contrast. Malaysian Kuala Lumpur skyline is better space out with the Petronas Twin Tower, Tun Razak Exchange Tower, the KL tower, and the tallest Merdeka PNB tower in different part of the city that creates a skyline that you can see different tower in different view of the city. That will be nicer.
It's a gorgeous building (at least from the outside), but considering the global economic situation and -- perhaps more importantly -- the PRC's move toward a less foreigner-friendly environment, it's probably going to be quite a while before those empty spaces have tenants as intended.
That incident in video 2:32 happened in a complet different district in MINGHANG. In fact 15.4 kilometers away from each other. How the hell it is a near by apartment?
Not Jenseler!! ahaha, that’s a first. Anyway, yeah… American architecture and engineering firms are responsible for most of the world’s tallest buildings. We do skyscrapers very well in the US.. particularly NYC. My statics professors in my nyc architecture program worked for Thornton Tomasetti.
I wonder if you are going to use double glass exteriors, why not make the inner one more rectangular so that the inner spaces are more useable. Relegate all the funky shaped spaces to public area between the exteriors.
It was very odd going up that fast. Easy to have a hard time popping your ears. But the screens in the elevator was neat. Showing the outside grow as you went up. We were fortunate to have a clear day. But the pollution was the problem not the clouds. This was a "statement project" for the CCP. Not a business decision. They only care that they have the tallest in Asia, NOT that it's making money.
I just came back from Shanghai in September, it was beautiful blue sky with white clouds...no pollution at all. If I am not wrong China has spent billions for overcoming air pollution problems within 7 years before 2017. Please go there and see with your won eyes...
@@icebaby6714 I HAVE seen it with my OWN EYES. Shanghai, like Beijing has a HUGE pollution problem and the CCP hasn't "solved" it because they've also spent tons on building dirty coal fired power plants and have no interest in what the western world pushed for "green" junk. Except when it comes to showing propaganda for stupid westerners to suck up. Yes, there were also days that were lovely. Just like in L.A. or N.Y. when the atmosphere has just enough movement to clean the air it's clear. I've seen BOTH kind of days there, WITH MY OWN EYES!
You made a mistake sir. The middle east and arabian peninsula are considered asia, therefore the tallest skyscraper in Asia is the Burj Khalifa. Shanghai Tower is only the tallest in east Asia
Buildings this tall are just expensive and unnecessary. It’s a nightmare for plumbing, electricity and elevators. Emergency services also can’t help you if there is a fire
It is curious that it does not seem to be possible to find the distributions of steel and concrete data down any skyscraper. Consider the shape of the Eiffel Tower that is a measly 300 meters and does not have to support twice its own weight in concrete.
On the one hand I would say it's a trade secrect on the other hand I don't understand the argument you are trying to make. The Eiffel Tower is far lighter as it does not have to "hold up" all the floor space. With the twice its own weight in concrete, do you mean the ratio of foundation mass to building mass? or ratio of concrete to steal in the walls?
@@selectthedead Every very tall structure must deal with the problem of supporting progressively increasing weight from top to bottom. The Eiffel 🗼 Tower is 10,000 tons of wrought iron and no concrete and glass. If the ET was sliced into 100 3 meter sections the slices must have some mathematical pattern to the increase. Of course if the top 14% of such a structure supposedly falls straight down and totally destroys the bottom %83 in less than double free fall time and 2 decades go by without "experts" discussing the distributions of structural mass versus non-structural mass must be peculiar because the Conservation of Momentum would affect that time. Especially since the World Famous Event has become historically significant physics should not be historically INACCURATE. Would engineering schools not asking obvious questions be political?
I used to jog around that area at night back when the tower had just completed. One time while I was running past it, I decided to stop and look up, it was so big I immediately lost balance and fell over.
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The Empire State Building was completed during the early 1930s, and was mostly empty for several years. At opening there was pretty much only 1 tenant above 7th floor, and for almost the entire decade there wasn't even elevator service past floor 40 other than for the observation deck. The building wasn't profitable until the 1950s. I could see a similar situation for this building.
Such a fan you are! Occupancy rate - commercial 98%, total 80% as of Dec. 2022 - not too shabby!
I work in a spiral shaped tower in Japan. The floor layouts are very strange, especially since a large majority of the floors are classrooms for various colleges.
The Mode Gakuen Spiral in Nagoya i presume. Ye that's pretty weird from the inside.
Its actually called, "self consolidating concrete" or SCC. It's also a slightly more tricky mix to make consistently. It is usually used for larger mass pour, or monolithic, foundations.
I was in the CN tower this past weekend. Longest monolithic pour of its time
@@alargefarva4274 how many yards? I'm an engineer and work on a couple of massive projects atm. One is a massive new LNG terminal and the other is a new unit for Chevron-Phillips. Largest mono pour we've done on either of those sites was a 3,600 yard compressor tabletop. They had 3 pump trucks and trucks running from 11am until about 4am.
Self compacting concrete where I'm from.
So no vibrators are used when pouring? Or they use them anyway?
@@kalu19991 good question... im PRETTY sure they still vibrate it in the forms, and I'm positive that the engineers who test it don't have to vibrate it. The testers just do a spread, pendulum, and column test on it and make a set of 4x8 cylinders. They also have to put temperature sensors inside and check the temperature as it cures for several weeks. Depending on the dimensions, the temperatures must climb steady for so many days and not get beyond a certain temp, and then it must cool at a specific rate.
Building these super tall skyscrapers are just a worldwide dingus measuring contest
@michaelmurdock4607 wish I could've bought another Coupland inches !
Prefer countries measure dicks with buildings rather than bombs.
Well if my dingus was hundreds of meters tall I’d brag, too. Even if an Arab did have a taller dingus.
Fn spell-check. Don't blame the liquor !
@@baalzeebub4230 You could brag but only a black hole would take you on. Boy, would she ?
My favorite building is the Shanghai World Financial Center. These buildings are beautiful and could even rival any super tall building in Dubai. I wish we had more buildings here in the US like some of these but the reality it probably would not make much sense anymore with so much vacant office space now available.
No mention of the 1000 ton damper on top.. its amazing!!
I went to the top floor back in 2015 while it was still unfinished, together with one of the lead architects and his official photographer. We could not see the view because of the clouds LOL. The elevator was super fast.
Clouds or air pollution? I was in Shanghai in 2014, and if you could see 5 miles, that was a clear day.
@@fixpacifica I've lived there my whole life, I think it started getting better in the mid 2010's, though the 2000s were pretty bad. I remember laughing with friends when the news from Paris said they were panicking over a pollution rating of like 30-40 ppm.
Yeah dude, those weren't clouds. I don't think that I've ever seen a smog-free day in Shanghai.
@@TohaBgood2smog was bad like LA when I visited back in the 70’s ?
@@fixpacifica Air pollution, most likely. Shanghai's PM 2.5 is routinely > 150. Last December I stayed in the Jinmao hotel right next to the Shanghai Tower. Every morning I could see the whole city in "morning fog" from my hotel room. A breathtaking view indeed. Only later I realized that was actually smog 😅
I’d love to see more videos on architecture tbh. Maybe another channel idea even.
You must be new to megaprojects, he does lots of architectural projects on this channel. Also, welcome! This is my favorite of his channels.
Any more channels and I'm out 😂
Search for "The B1M". You will love it
Haha Simon Whistler is a TH-cam veteran of many channels 😂 and this is also my favourite Simon channel. The first channel of his I ever watched and how got to know his content was through biographics and TopTenz 😊
The CN Tower video is pretty cool. There's a bunch of others on this channel as well.
Watching at 4:21 AM in California. Anyone else? Also known as the Twisted Qock.
Thanks, Simon. Informative.
The floorplate problem is insurmountable. The Shanghai Tower is unquestionably the nicest looking of the super and mega tall buildings, but the cost per usable square metre of floor space is too high for tenants.
That’s plenty questionable. Taipei 101 is head and shoulders above the competition in terms of aesthetics, in my book.
@@PerfectSense77 this has astonishingly large greenhouses which are public spaces. An eco system with its own weather! How do they handle air movement? Is there more oxygen and better negative ions? Is it healthier to be in this building than it is outside?
I was one of the first people to go up into the observation deck here. It was early May of 2016 and we didn't know it wasn't open yet. We just thought it looked cool and wanted to go check it out. The ticket office wasn't open/staffed so they allowed us to go up with an escort and take a few pictures. There was only us and a news crew up there. It was cool. Probably the only free thing we did in China. And those elevators are super fast!!
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are you suggesting it didnt?@@eddiehimself
@@eddiehimselfah, random shit don't happen at all.
Scary fast, but over the years you get used to it. It's definitely not empty. The company I work for has 12 floors. Pretty dumb propaganda video. Typical of Simon. Parroting American propaganda for clicks....
Gonzo !
Hey Simon megaprojects idea, have you done one on Forest City Malaysia, massive empty new skyscraper luxury city
Thanks Simon. Merry Christmas. Take care & stay safe.
stunning tower! Best skyline on earth!
My favorite looking skyscraper!
Your picture at 6:32 is actually the interior of the adjacent Jin Mao Tower (looking down to the foyer from inside the Grand Hyatt Hotel). Accuracy is important...
The entire video is just him lying. Literally cannot find even one report that backs up what he is saying.
@@beta__6109 the estimated energy efficiencies were optimistic, I understand they get much less. It is difficult to get numbers. There are many different approaches achieving various improved efficiencies. Understandably, or tellingly perhaps, the building is shy to reveal actual numbers. But it was experimental, so much learned. I am fascinated with this building, it's my favourite. I wish someone would look at each of the systems and discuss actual efficiencies achieved.
Wow never know about that. Why do they need to lie 🤥
Ive been insise, and it certainly beautiful and impressive!
0:45 - Chapter 1 - Pouring the blueprints
5:10 - Chapter 2 - Megatall architecture
8:10 - Chapter 3 - Economy in the clouds
I’ve stayed in the other two neighbouring towers, both Hyatts. It was quite something to stay atop the Jan Ming Grand Hyatt looking down on the other skyscrapers from my room. It was even more spectacular moving next door to the WTC and the Park Hyatt and looking down at the Jan Ming and often even clouds!
Cool. How was the communism?
@@Stunningandbraveah you must be that guy that brings up politics at Thanksgiving.
@@shifusensei6442 Politics are only discussed in jest, as they should be with a wealthy family. You must be happily underemployed, at best.
@@Stunningandbrave What communism? It's funny that people still think that China is a communist country.
@@Erevos85 What political party is Xi Jinping a part of? Refresh my memory.
Suggestion for an alternative title: "A Colossal Erection in Shanghai" .
Re: the time it will take to fill the building with tenants. The usual lifespan quoted for concrete is 50 to 100 years, and that is for high quality concrete under moderate conditions. Rebar helps, but it can rust fairly rapidly in wet, warm climates. The cost of carefully deconstructing something with this much mass and stored gravitational energy, without taking down neighboring buildings, could be a significant fraction of the cost of building it.
Current real estate/economic problems in China suggest that "ironic" might be a better word than "iconic" to describe this building.
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Back on 360 when the building collapses it would cause the whole server to lag
Despite its challenges, this is by far the most beautiful and elegant skyscraper in the world. I’m not sure how it translates to others in pictures but in person it is an embodiment of the Venus de Milo! I’m very proud of the USA’s contribution!
More beautiful than the Burj Khalifa??? No
@@MuchCow9000a million times more. Shanghai tower isn’t the most beautiful, let alone by far. It’s fine, but just another tower of glass, albeit with some curves.
It’s obviously a stylistic difference in opinion. The Burj is impressive in it own right. But you do not get the same understated elegance and the effortless grace. Shanghai , when you stand at it’s base, has a sense the structure is physically rotating in the breeze. If you like a skyscraper that insists upon itself, I could see how you’d prefer the Burj. I think I can hear it calling now, “Hey, look at me!!! I’m the tallest in the world!!!” Thanks Burj. We know.
@@brandonpiazza6210 the design of the Shanghai building isn't even that pretty
Have you seen it in person ? That always makes a difference. I get that you disagree. No argument here! I just feel differently!
In the end, both towers speak for themselves! And both are marvels of design and technology. So their beauty is again in the eye of the beholder. I just happen to be the right beholder!🥸
I think think this building is most known for the video of the two guys climbing it while it was still being built
So, the level of attention to detail in this channel is usually great. It's part of why I watch it. But "tallest skyscraper in Asia"? But seriously, is Dubai not in Asia?
Technically, but maybe not colloquially?
Most western people don't consider the middle east and Asia to be the same place when referencing an area. It's way less confusing to separate them
It's called the Middle-East for a reason. I like to call the East-East the Orient, but I am alone..
@@EliKazmi Speak for yourself. The rest of the world considers Turkey as Asia's western edge.
Of course Dubai is in Asia. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant. Whistler's videos are seldom 100% factual.
There's a hotel in it near the top! Hoping to stay there next time
They used to call it the Empty State Building ya know. It's the most iconic of the four including the Pearl Tower I think. The plan you showed is highly intriguing: plenty can be done with that. I think it's well laid out.
It is a unique kind of skyscraper, at least for it's truly unrivaled volume size. I assumed it would probably take many years to actually fill in the building with tenants, simply because it's such a huge volume. But out of the current World's Top 10 Tallest, it is actually my favorite design ever since the exterior was completed.
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I live beside the Shanghai tower and regularly visit the place every week. Several of my Friends works there too. It is getting busier by the year. I still remember when it just opened, it is like a deserted building whenever i visit. Now its very busy. I don't know about its occupancy rate but the top half has been taken by a hotel and the office space has been occupied by several major company like JP Morgan has moved in. I don't agree that the tower is a failure, but it sure has a slow start and the pandemic really makes things worse.
The entire video is just him lying. 😂 Literally cannot confirm anything he says.
The image you show looking down through the building at the hotel lobby is the Jin Mao building. It is the Grand Hyatt.
Been there 12/19... Geez i had it good back when i traveled a lot
So are many of the other Skyscrapers around the world! Especially, in the US
Bingo! This is not a local issue. Calgary and Jakarta both have vacancy CBD rates over 30%... I'm in Edmonton where it's just below 20% to this day despite being the fastest growing major city in Canada...
Also in 2017 we built the tallest building in Canada outside of downtown Toronto and it's still only half occupied. Luxury condo's remain empty, full floors aren't used... 1.4 million sq ft, 66 floors, 251m/823' and $500M later... And again at night it's an empty obelisk to an economy that has changed faster than they could put up the already peeling off glazing...
I hope it's not lost on anyone that China's most impressively sized Sky Scraper was built by an American company.
why don't Americans have anything nice then?
Because they steal everything while its being built and end up changing the plans
Architects design for the clients. Architects DO propose but CLIENTS dictate THEIR needs. Nationality of designers is irrelevant. "He, who has the gold, makes the rules. Quit your "America bashing".
And I hope its not lost to anyone that the Usa most famous statue, statue of liberty was build by France
@@JayYoung-ro3vuBig cope
It's got to be worth it.....Megaprojects is covering it.
How can we keep track of you, Simon? What channels did you leave and what new ones did you start?
At least the Shanghai government is rich and able to bail out the building of and operation of the tower and thus is still functional. Both Tianjin and Wuhan have an unfinished >500m skyscraper each just sitting there after their developers went broke. In 2020 the central government banned new buildings over 250 meters tall and new ones above 100 meters need to be “culturally significant or reflect Chinese culture.” Good riddance I would say.
So, high rise prisons?
Looking down from the top of the hotel in the jin mao tower looks just like the one pic in this video
$2.4Bn to build a tower, couldn't hire plumbers who use teflon tape on pipes 😂
2 billion dollars and one toilet tissue can clog up the sewage system...
Gotta love the shodiness of Chinese overall infrastructure. There is a reason why flushing toilet paper, in the few toilets that exist in China, will clog the toilet every time.
I think you forgot Merdeka 118 tower in Kuala Lumpur that is taller than Shanghai Tower
no it's not, Merdeka 118 is cheating, just like that one in Dubai...a stick can be erected on Shanghai Tower and make it "tallest" building in the world..
You should update your video, Wikipedia literally shows the following:
"In December 2022, it was reported that, following its initial pre-pandemic tenancy issues, the tower had reached office space occupancy rates of 80% and commercial space occupancy rates of 98%. The tower management disclosed that 41% of its leased space were to foreign company tenants, which included JPMorgan, CNG Paribas and Allianz, and 30% were to Fortune 500 companies.[50] Current tenants of the tower also include Alibaba, Intesa Sanpaolo and AllBright Law Offices."
Pretty lazy research.
"What's holding up this skyscraper, Yun?"
"Congkweet"
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Thanks for sharing.
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Hello Simon, the Shanghai Tower is not and never was the tallest building in Asia. That would be the Burj Khalifa which opened in 2010 in Dubai.
That’s taller because of a stupid antenna not because the there are actually occupiable floors like the Shanghai tower. They have a bar restaurant in the Shanghai tower high up there. I just saw several you tube videos on it.
Cheating with antenna
It has the highest observation deck in the world.
I wonder why a video posted hours ago is relying on information from 2019?? Specially of a country like China where things move super fast!
First of all, China is not like the West. They build things first and then they create demand. They can do that due to their huge population. Secondly, by 2019 almost 70% of the building was filled in yet the video is saying that more than half of it was empty. Come on, let's be serious!
And lastly but not least, in 2021 the world's highest hotel (J Hotel) opened exactly in that tower which ened up filling the remaining floors. How could this team have missed that?!
May have a hotel, but it's probably not full 24x7x365.
@@jilbertb You should google it if you have doubts... Anyway, we both know the difference between a vacant building and a "not fully booked hotel".
The entire video is just him lying. I went looking and literally could not find anything to confirm what he says.
Speaking of "economy in the clouds", I feel like you guys could easily write an episode on artifical intelligence and what influence it will have and call it something like "AI, an ecomony in the cloud(s)" or something like that
Had to realize which channel of yours i was watching..... Lol i kept waiting for something to go wrong😅
that's the follow up Video in 3-4 Years when Simon remembers he did a Video on that somewhere
@@enisra_bowman lol true
Symmon, in Washington DC, more than half of all office buildings are vacant! This is not a uniquely Chinese problem!
I have seen it, it's on the Bund right? I went on a cruise..I wondered what it was.
Who are you asking?...
Tourist will HAVE MORE FUN Walking around PEARL Ring , beautiful scene
Will you do a mega project on the underground missile silos located in Texas Oklahoma and Kansas
I’m working on a building like this right now lol supposed to be the tallest in the western hemisphere
Which is... One WTC?
you only used data up to 2020? by end of 2022, it reported 80% occupancy. At 10:18 you used a night time picture of the 3 towers in which many officers are closed for the day.
It’s very impressive but impractical. The worldwide obsession with taller and taller buildings may be regrettable in the long term
Empty skyscrapers arn't really a new phenomenon. The Empire State Building was called for a long time Empty Space Biulding for the same reason.
Comparing Chinese construction to American is laughable😂
Yet it was the observation deck revenue from both that keeps the lights on. Even to this day the ESB only makes $10M from renting office space yet $90M+ from tourist observation fees... Pretty sure Shanghai Tour is the same... Ditto for WTC, Willis, and any number of super-skyscrapers around the world. Also why every tall NYC building has one... $$$$$ makers...
The great wall of China says hello.
Skyscrapers are obsolete
Are we forgetting that it was during the Great Depression and World War II that the ESB had trouble getting tenants. Even the early days of the WTC did not have the level of vacancy that the Shanghai Tower has, and that's with two mega tall skyscrapers.
Not sure if someone answered it already, but how do they get the cranes back down? I honestly don't know and am too tired to look it up
I've seen some disassembled and brought down. Also some simply left at the top. I'm sure there are hundreds of ways
The chinese government should begin charging for royalties with every wallpaper that prominently features the tower.
I think since late 2022, the building's occupancy rate is over 80%, commercial spaces are 98% rented.
The same thing cannot be said about other skyscrapers in Shanghai though, a lot of other buildings are around 50% empty.
Where have you gotten your stats from? I haven't seen any occupancy/rental numbers for this building since the pandemic started.
@@asdisskagen6487so you were checking frequently for these occupancy rates ? 😂
Did you know Dubai and Kuala Lumpur are in Asia?
Did you know that the tallest and second tallest skyscrapers in the world are in Dubai and Kuala Lumpur? You know, in Asia?
Did you know that the third tallest skyscraper in the world is shorter the tallest and the second tallest skyscrapers in the world?
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.
Simon probably means the tower was meant to be the tallest in East Asia. The Kuala Lumpur tower has just started construction when the Shanghai tower was completed.
Probably just a rushed edit but could have said second tallest when started or planned to be second tallest but then eclipsed by the KL 118 / Merdeka Tower.
The Merdeka 118 is only 502.8 metres to the highest occupiable floor, compared to 585.4 m in the Burj Khalifa and 583.4 m in the Shanghai Tower. Congratulations Merdeka 118 builders, you managed to make the second "tallest" building in the world by sticking a giant spike on the roof. 26.1% of the Merdeka's official height is vanity height (the Burj Khalifa is 29.5% vanity). The proliferation in the use of vanity height makes highest occupiable floor the only sensible metric for comparing buildings.
DId you know that Phil Leotardo spent 20 years in the can?
I prefer the Malaysian Kuala Lumpur skyline method comlare to how shanghai does it.
3 towers with different architecture design together looks too mixmatch. Especially the Jin Mao which looks outdated compare to the other 2. Not to metion the other large building that typically accompany the picture of there 3 tower that added to the contrast.
Malaysian Kuala Lumpur skyline is better space out with the Petronas Twin Tower, Tun Razak Exchange Tower, the KL tower, and the tallest Merdeka PNB tower in different part of the city that creates a skyline that you can see different tower in different view of the city.
That will be nicer.
The total usable internal floor space being so tiny relative to the actual tower diameter is .... insulting!
it does lack girth. many such cases in china
It's not a failure if it attract tourists and the city owns it. Just considered its a sculptor for the public ;)
The lifts go thesame speed as the central line?????
Percent of the first floor taken by elevators must be huge.
this is the PERFECT symbol for China’s economy, shiny, impressive exterior that’s less than half of what it claims to be
It's a gorgeous building (at least from the outside), but considering the global economic situation and -- perhaps more importantly -- the PRC's move toward a less foreigner-friendly environment, it's probably going to be quite a while before those empty spaces have tenants as intended.
😂 You cover the end credits with TH-cam overlays. 😂
impressive
The head of Pudding .... VACUOUS
China took a painful lesson from this one. After this, China seldom built super high skyscrapers anymore.
0:21 Dubai/UAE is also in Asia
UAE not in aisa it is middle east
I worked with a crew of twenty two people for 6 months straight on that thing...We smoked the best weed non stop most of the time of our shift 😂
Who's I
yo. good job
Still better than Chinesium!
Isn't weed illegal there? Like, life in prison illegal?!
@@jilbertb funny what American media feeds you....Big American money in china buys anything
Time indeed will tell.
Since the facade is double-paned...how are the views from inside the offices?
There aren't any lol ...
Yeah Australia has one of them to, and im shore a lot of other countries do to
Funny side note, Gensler couldn't afford the tower's expensive rent for their own Shanghai office.
That incident in video 2:32 happened in a complet different district in MINGHANG. In fact 15.4 kilometers away from each other. How the hell it is a near by apartment?
25 million people in one city. almost more than all the people in Australia.
Given the standard for Chinese construction you might want to take a good look at it; it might not be around much longer
oh that British grape, low and sour!
It looks like a vape, and is right next to the WFC which looks like a USB flash drive. Shanghai looks like the random crap on my desk.
The live action Reboot set is looking lit.
All the random crap from your desk is Made in China... So it's fitting!
Not Jenseler!! ahaha, that’s a first. Anyway, yeah… American architecture and engineering firms are responsible for most of the world’s tallest buildings. We do skyscrapers very well in the US.. particularly NYC. My statics professors in my nyc architecture program worked for Thornton Tomasetti.
Was hard to watch this video, first time I've seen this channel and everything was mispronounced
上海中心大厦？空的吗？天天几百人上去观光，几千人在里面上班，空的？
观光上到上面，要198元！扑街！上面咩都无！你如果无上过去，别上！
I sure hope it’s not tofudreg construction… that would be a catastrophic collapse.
FYI, it's Gensler with a hard G, not like Jensler
They shouldn't have build it directly near Sauron's Eye
That one was originally going to have a round opening until someone pointed out that it looked a lot like the Japanese flag.
And now it looks like a giant bottle opener 🙂
@@zapfanzapfan LOL good point. In that case, the next one they build nearby should look like a coke bottle.
Please listen to the songs They don't understand by sawyer brown and the song The little girl by John Michael Montgomery
I wonder if you are going to use double glass exteriors, why not make the inner one more rectangular so that the inner spaces are more useable. Relegate all the funky shaped spaces to public area between the exteriors.
You didn't say they dug down to bedrock. They should have dug down to bedrock.
You'd have to be outta your mind to rent a space in that death trap at all, let alone above the clouds
It was very odd going up that fast. Easy to have a hard time popping your ears. But the screens in the elevator was neat. Showing the outside grow as you went up. We were fortunate to have a clear day. But the pollution was the problem not the clouds. This was a "statement project" for the CCP. Not a business decision. They only care that they have the tallest in Asia, NOT that it's making money.
I just came back from Shanghai in September, it was beautiful blue sky with white clouds...no pollution at all. If I am not wrong China has spent billions for overcoming air pollution problems within 7 years before 2017. Please go there and see with your won eyes...
@@icebaby6714 I HAVE seen it with my OWN EYES. Shanghai, like Beijing has a HUGE pollution problem and the CCP hasn't "solved" it because they've also spent tons on building dirty coal fired power plants and have no interest in what the western world pushed for "green" junk. Except when it comes to showing propaganda for stupid westerners to suck up. Yes, there were also days that were lovely. Just like in L.A. or N.Y. when the atmosphere has just enough movement to clean the air it's clear. I've seen BOTH kind of days there, WITH MY OWN EYES!
Correction...Merdeka 118 is the 2nd tallest in the world*
You made a mistake sir. The middle east and arabian peninsula are considered asia, therefore the tallest skyscraper in Asia is the Burj Khalifa. Shanghai Tower is only the tallest in east Asia
Its sad. All these incredible, futuristic buildings and they serve no purpose.
Buildings this tall are just expensive and unnecessary.
It’s a nightmare for plumbing, electricity and elevators.
Emergency services also can’t help you if there is a fire
It is curious that it does not seem to be possible to find the distributions of steel and concrete data down any skyscraper. Consider the shape of the Eiffel Tower that is a measly 300 meters and does not have to support twice its own weight in concrete.
On the one hand I would say it's a trade secrect on the other hand I don't understand the argument you are trying to make. The Eiffel Tower is far lighter as it does not have to "hold up" all the floor space.
With the twice its own weight in concrete, do you mean the ratio of foundation mass to building mass? or ratio of concrete to steal in the walls?
@@selectthedead
Every very tall structure must deal with the problem of supporting progressively increasing weight from top to bottom. The Eiffel 🗼 Tower is 10,000 tons of wrought iron and no concrete and glass. If the ET was sliced into 100 3 meter sections the slices must have some mathematical pattern to the increase.
Of course if the top 14% of such a structure supposedly falls straight down and totally destroys the bottom %83 in less than double free fall time and 2 decades go by without "experts" discussing the distributions of structural mass versus non-structural mass must be peculiar because the Conservation of Momentum would affect that time. Especially since the World Famous Event has become historically significant physics should not be historically INACCURATE. Would engineering schools not asking obvious questions be political?
Definitely, it would be political to shut up voices of reason!
The building that fell down was an example of tofu dreg construction not any building built nearby
Wonder if it's connected to a functioning sewage system?
Couldn’t they just fill the floors with apartments ?
It really has become an iconic symbol of the Chinese economy.