2021 Minivan Comparison Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มิ.ย. 2024
- Picking the best minivan can’t be that difficult, right? These four very distinct models all have unique personalities.
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#Pacifica #Odyssey #Sienna #Carnival #Comparo #Minivan
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00:00 - Intro
00:52 - Chrysler Pacifica's Versatility
03:18 - Honda Odyssey's Versatility
05:52 - Kia Carnival's Versatility
09:54 - Toyota Sienna's Versatility
12:48 - Driving the Chrysler Pacifica
17:08 - Driving the Honda Odyssey
21:07 - Driving the Kia Carnival
25:11 - Driving the Toyota Sienna
29:17 - And the winner is… - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
The mic busssin 🥵
Yikes
It just gets worse and worse
LOL 🥶
Sheeeeeeeeeeshhh
We need 🛸UF👽 free energy transportation all this nonsense vehicles will be obsolete & end up in scrap yards.
So much potential. Camera work and audio could be improved.
My thoughts too.
You gotta start somewhere
his gain was too high
I think you are the only reviewer who had all 4 minivans in one comparison. Unfortunately, I think you missed some key points that no other reviewer has covered. How the 2nd row flips, folds or slides with the child seat installed and ease of latch point access. Rear seat entertainment features, even if some didn't have it installed, you could've talked about what they offer. The rear seat camera quality and rear cabin talk could've been compared. Each of them have a unique way the 3rd row folds down and should have been shown. Maybe even a full sized suitcase to show the cargo size. Since you had all 4 on the same day on the same roads, a decibel meter reading would've been cool. And test the smart cruise control and lane keep tech. Your presentation is nice but needs to be streamlined, especially with a large test like this.
Um. Im taking Kia... he talks about long term reliability... i got a 07 Kia Sedona (Carnival) over 143,000 miles and no major issues just normal wear and tear. Its still going strong.
I'm in a similar boat. My neighbour just traded his Sedona in with... 350000 km on it! No issues. He got a Sorento (empty nester now).
Not to mention the warranty (at least in the US) blows away the others.
My dad had a 2011 Kia Soul with 400,000 miles on it. Just the most reliable car we had, way better than my mothers 2018 Toyota Corolla. We traded the Soul for a new one (2021 LX IVT) and rides soooo smooth.
Same. I have a sportage close to 200k miles zero issues. Most reliable car ive owned.
Pp
Your choice of such a high quality mic gives us the impression you know what you’re talking about.
Has nothing to do with the quality of mic but the setup. Too much gain on that mic.
@@velvin9the point stands
Working for a car rental fleet
Sienna most passenger volume it’s huge!
It does what van does! (engine struggles to catch speed whiney droney noise due to CVT)
Chrysler Pacifica has the most options from E-hybrid, AWD, FWD has vacuum 2 touch screens for rear passengers famcam and a 3rd row sunroof! (carpet liner in trunk area falls off over time, auto stop start errors are common but minor)
Honda Odyssey most refine! vacuum and Honda watch cam only 1 screen for rear (sliding door issues not working or panel falls off door)
Kia Carnival Bang for your buck, you get a lot for its price (Check Engine Light and it’s in recall already)
I can't drive a van...but I can drive a Carnival!!!
All four minivans looks great. For once I think Kia has a winner with their new minivan. Better than the Sedona. I honestly think that we need more minivans on the market. GM, Nissan, Volkswagen, Mazda and Ford needs to get back into the minivan market just like what is happening to midsize trucks.
The Carnival is the Sedona. It was just renamed
Toyota should bring the Hiace to the states. I think it would do really well. I guess it wont though because it doesnt have the safety features that is required in our country.
Ford Ram Nissan (and gm's version of nissan's platform) and Mercedes all just discontinued thier minivan last year and this year due to poor sales to focus on 3rd row crossovers. These 4 are about the sweet spot for the market. Except that Chrysler/Fiat would likely do better to absorb the Pacifica brand into Dodge as the Caravan and just end the barely existent Chrysler name all together.
One of the most useful comparison videos I’ve ever seen. Thank you for thinking it through in advance and being so organized. You stuck to your plan and it made it so much easier to watch.
Kia looks best period !
This video is hard to watch. The audio was very rough
I watched the whole review, and came away with the exact inverse of your ranking. Still, great video. I'll probably see who gives me the best deal on a Pacifica vs Carnival.
Great review but my question is on reliability front, isn't the odyssey plagued by transmission issues? Kia Sedona was considered more reliable than the Honda.
The ZF 9 speed on lower trim levels was no good but now all Odysseys have the Honda 10 speed which has been wonderful.
According to Consumer Reports the Odyssey is one of the least reliable vehicles on the market.
th-cam.com/video/EKNUwwK0wsU/w-d-xo.html
Odyssey Reliability issues, class action lawsuit, plenty complaints about electrical, issues with transmission. Don't get me wrong I love hondas but I wouldn't say the honda odyssey is reliable.
You go Toyota for the Best Reliability.
@@djkenny1202 I love Toyota but, there designs suck. It's like all money is in the engine and cheapest interior.
As parent of 4, the Sienna all day. Do 245hp is plenty pony, fuel efficiency is more important than HP.
I like the fact that you mentioned the rear window size. I've learned it not too long ago that it's important if you are planning to put kids there for a long drive. My van is 2013 Sienna, I bought it new and never had a problem. I love it, and I agree with the statement that it's most honest minivan. I din't aspect much when I test drove it, but then kept on finding some plesant surprises during the ownership. I also have 2020 highlander, only because I need to tow a trailer, but in my opinion Sienna is much better for a family with 2 or more kids.
"Pacifica handles the worst over rough pavement".
Dude you have 20" rims!
Lol I literally ranked them in the exact opposite order. Honda being the worst van out there. Chrysler is lacking in refinement? The definition of refinement is the pacifica. Most reviews say the pacifica has one of the best ride lol I'm lost with words. The Hondas interior is poor at best, no stow and go; dash looks 2008. And no awd. How can you pick a van for #1 spot with no awd? I'd put the Kia first if it had awd. Plus you can get a plug in hybrid with the pacifica, best crash rating, stow and go and by far the best styling. Toyota is great also. But Honda I'd definitely rate #4
Totally agree
not sure what this guy is smoking but totally agree. i have leased the honda and not that impressed my ranking would be honda 4 without a doubt, while other 3 will be up for debate. the honda is a refresh only. this dude lost all credibility with his choice of honda being #1.
@@hltsolo totally agree. Put the pacifica 3rd and I can understand your reasoning but put honda first? Then all credibility is lost.
this AWD minivan comment is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Minivans don't need to be AWD and if you're looking for an AWD vehicle get a crossover or SUV because minivans are made for roads and to haul families, they don't need to be AWD. that's like saying a Honda Accord should bee AWD when you'll never actually need it and all it'll do is ruin your fuel economy.
@@darien1784 sorry but as a awd minivan owner i would disagree, the bigger suvs suck for young family and why not give a van a little bit more assurance on those stormy days. After all its your family, your most valued thing in life.
Nice review. The Pacific you review was either the Pinnacle version or the Hybrid. A regular Pacifica would come with 2nd row Stow and Go, and give you 3979 liters of cargo space behind the first row seats (2nd and 3rd row seats stowed).
whatever
@@steveroe6405 I dont like the pacifica but if yes going to compare vans he should use the top trim for each vehicle chrysler dominated the mini van market for 15 years but the new vans look great.
Need to add the Pacifica Plug in Hybrid. As it has much better MPG and can be used for up to 32 miles on battery only.
There are a lot of problems with that car.
@@callistoscali4344 Oh there is, could you please provide some references I would love to read about all those problems.
@@Thefcbecker
www.pacificaforums.com/threads/2021-pachy-breaks-down-on-freeway-in-ev-mode.49394/#post-618238
Chrysler is ticking time bomb
One thing not mentioned is living in a winter climate. Ice & snow below freezing. If the veh is left outside in winter conditions it's impossible to open sliding side doors. I had an 04 sienna & that was its Achilles heel. It put serious strain on the cables which opened & closed the doors. Eventually causing them to break. Serious expense. If they could solve that issue it would be great
So much compromise between each model. Nobody is hitting the nail on the head here
It’s cool that you review all 4! However, you breezed right over the best feature of the Odyssey when compared to the other 3 which is the sliding 2nd row when the middle seat is removed. As a parent with multiple kids in car seats the versatility with the 2nd row is the main reason I went with the Odyssey. Glad you had it a number 1 though.
You are the only reviewer that put Honda at the top. It is very outdated now. The Kia Carnival is sweeping the market so hard good luck finding one in stock selling at msrp. I think everyone agrees that even without AWD it still beats the competition with its features and great design. We’ll see whether Chrysler and Toyota step up their game next year.
Oh yeah? I haven't seen any Kia Carnival around here lol. Your last name says it all.
@@WAN2TREE4 Oh yeah? You sound like a very smart sophisticated person since you think people pick cars based on their race or national origin. I'm not surprised you don't see many new cars around where you live. Just go watch more minivan review videos if you don't believe me, and I promise you none of the reviewers were Asian or last name Kim.
I’m part of a Carnival Facebook group and there are a lot of problems. Better to wait one model year to see if the issues have been resolved
@@ikelee which group and what problems? I ended up buying one myself and I’m now part of several fb groups and I have had zero problems so far. I’m really enjoying my Carnival.
Just bought the SX from a lot in Ontario. Drove 3 hrs to get it. They said people were begging them to sell it to them. It's insane!
Just Honda Odyssey from 2021 touring that's all and enough and peace of mind for families have kids, it's the best, stronger, interior materials is luxurious...than others. I bought Toyota 2021 siena just switched to honda Odyssey
Thanks for the review! I like the practical and engineering aspect of minivan. You might want to fix your microphone.
I don't know what Odyssey he's testing but the 05 & 17 Odyssey seats that I've owned/been in move in FOUR directions . Can tilt recline & can be totally removed .
This video was a great effort. Thank you for producing this content. You definitely earn my subscription. Very good review. Just please get a camera stabilizer and a better microphone. It would really help.
Just picked up my Kia Carnival after looking at all these competitors.. seriously, Kia is the easy choice based on style and value.
Yup. We love ours!
mpg ?
How hard is it to offer AWD really? That’s the only reason why we are not getting it
@@rocket2811 GUV
@@sivanesh7433 mpg = miles per gallon
What trim do you like for carnival
There’s no way I would buy the Honda as long as they use timing belts, which is dumb. You’ll have to pay about $1,000 every 60,000 miles to get those replaced, or risk engine damage.
One correction...the Pacifica second row has stow and go. The Pacifica Hybrid does not have stow and go as the battery is located under those seats.
He had the Pinnacle trim which has larger seats and no Stow n Go. The Limited and lower trims have Stow n Go.
@@sir_spam-alot Every video I have seen on the four-wheel-drive pinnacle in the standard Pacifica Have shown how to use the second row stone go. Not sure where you got your information but I saw mine on TH-cam.
@@Thefcbecker at 2:40, you can see the storage well, but notice that the front seat hinges are not there for the Stow n Go system. He also states that the there is no Stow n Go on his tester.
I got awd with stow and go
I get better mpg then Honda buddies on long trips
I purchased AWD Pacifica
On a long road trip I get average 8.4 litres per 100kms
Some times below 8 if is very long trip !
Friends and family own Honda vans all I hear how great they are but they never talk about Honda’s Electric door problem has made them spend thousands of dollars
Transmission problem
Battery draining issues
All they do is bash my van
On my old grand caravan I drove over 300000 Kms
Comparing my bills to there Honda’s
My dodge caravan out did the Honda by thousands of dollars
Kia Carnival..... looks SUV.
Minivans are the best.
Keep going！subscribed！
You have great reviews and excellent camera work but I think you would benefit big time with a better/smoother camera and mic.
Sounds like your mic input is clipping or maybe a defective microphone. Lapel Mic placement will contribute to noise, also.
Great review for the Canadian market. Your audio is not working well in some part though. I don't like how Toyota Canada decide to option the Sienna compare to the US like no spare tire option for any trim except the LE and BTW the XSE gets 20" wheels not 19" like the old model.
You're right about the 20-inch wheels. Thanks for the comment!
The lack of spare tire really irks me! Also that the Platinum trim isn’t offered in Canada
Great reviews, please do something with the audio on your next review. Thanks
Thanks, It helps !
I like the sienna I think I’m going to get that on
Do any of these cars have vented 3rd row windows?
What is the difference between midsize and minivan
Why minivan rental is costly compare to midsize van ?
Which van should I book?
At 19:29, the Honda 3.5L in the odyssey does not power the NSX. For one, you have SOHC in odyssey compared to a DOHC in the NSX. The engine codes are different too.
Interesting that when talking about the Pacifica you said no words about the plug in hybrid. I own one and I drive mostly electric and it drive better than the regular gas one. My best is 3 months without fuelling 2261km for a 62 liter tanks. Since drive mostly ectric, I would say my average gas comsuption is around 3-4 liter by 100km.
Uggh! If ONLY we could still have the Stow-n-go seats (2nd row) WITH the hybrid gas mileage! The stow-n-go of BOTH 2nd and 3rd rows is critically important to me… not willing to forgo that feature. But DAMN… that fuel economy of the hybrid though! 😮😳
Great review and comparison of the vehicles. The thing kinda bugs me is the video keeps comparing the gas mileage on the other vans with Sienna. There’s no comparison in the first place. Three are traditional gas engine, the Sienna is a hybrid.
I have 2019 Odyssey 33k km and its worst when comes to electric fittings and high on fuel consumption. I took test drive of all 4 and finally booked Carnival sx.. i like sienna but its too noisy and Toyota make sure that what ever you save on fuel they charge you upfront on msrp..
The Mercury Villager didn't turn into the Mercury Monterey. The Villager was discontinued and the Freestar was simply rebadged. For me, the Pacifica and Carnival are tops because they look the best inside and out and the Pacifica has the added benefit of a dark headliner which I think looks great. AWD shouldn't be such a big factor as most vans are sold with FWD even when AWD is available.
Audio upgrade much needed , but nice overall review !
Completely disagree, carnival should be no.1, it's packing the most, and as for reliability, Kia has been ranked multiple times, especially with the carnival as one of, if not the most reliable brand on earth
Honda and Toyota have built their trust over the years and Kia still playing catch-up in that regard. Kia and Hyundai really do make excellent new cars that are overall better than Honda and Toyota imo.
I got lost when you started spouting off information using the metric system. I am in the USA and thus you might as well have been talking to me in a foreign language. Was this video done in Canada?
This is the best review by far among minivans. I totally agree with everything you said. Not biased! Yup, same here, i liked sienna most, reliabilty and the looks it's there, but it's lacking that v6 power which gives it 30% less in rating. Odyssey is a bit old school, the looks is a bit boring, but reliabilty and power-wise that gives it the win! -and I love thay big 3rd row windows, so my in-laws don't ask for too many stop overs during long drives! Lol
Great reviews but the Mic feedback was rough…..
9:07 why do we not want the SX trim?
This is a completely misleading review why? Because the reason you don't choose the Cardinal is because it is front wheel drive, but you choose the Honda by the number one , but it's front wheel drive too, but my question is why if the carnival is way better in every aspect and it's way more luxurious and have a better price? I have the Honda but I don't think by any chance the kia is less reliable, kia make really good car I think maybe even better like Honda right now
the content is fantastic but this video is nearly unwatchable with the horrendous audio
I saw you guys filming this
Who knows more about the roofload of this four??? How much??
Video and audio quality is terrible.
Did you record this with a potato?
Lexus has a 3.5 l hybrid I don't know why they chose to go with the 2.5 l hybrid for the sienna they should have used the 3.5
It would have not only been the fastest minivan but it would have been smoother, the engine would not have to work as hard, and it still would have gotten class leading MPG
It’s most likely to save overall costs. The Highlander and Sienna use the same hybrid power train and are manufactured at the same plant
ford transit connect wagon?
Interesting rating...
These days is all about luxury and electronic devices and to me is about engine and transmission.
Good information in this video. But please work on your breathing. It's really distracting.
Which one is more quite?
Would appreciate gas mileage is US terms, but other than that, review is outstanding.
I drove the 2017 Pacifica...hands down its the best driving, best handling. Etc compared to all the others. Honda odyssey feels awful and too light for a van feels bumps,etc. Toyota sienna feels no better than the previous yrs. and fuel economy not great...Kia Carnival same as Honda odyssey they feel more as an SUV. Chrysler Pacifica again best ride, handling and fuel economy we got 29.7 mpg freeway!!!
got 30.3 spokane to Vegas in mine
I fly all over the country and I have rented all of these several times, except the carnival. Although I am not a fan of Chrysler, I can concur the Pacifica has the smoothest ride. It is more true to the traditional, soft, comfortable, American pillowy ride. The Honda feels too light and sporty to me.
Good video but the audio is more awful than the fuel consumption of the Pacifica
Honda has a lotta reliability issues specially in the minivan.Toyota is the clear winner among all of these.
The Honda seriously lacking a bunch of designers who have some sense. Look at their front grill, side and back looks OK but killed that van by giving that black Gros grill. It would have looked nice if they didn't squeeze its front..I like the reliability of Toyota and Honda but they lack quality interior and a futuristic design big time...
2018 the odyssey quality dropped a lot. Older odyssey’s are better
Sienna is the most up to date minivan design
This review of the Pacifica was the exact opposite of 5 other reviews ive seen. And even comments from people that have owned one. Every other reviewer said the ride is coosh, nice, and the handling in about middle of the pack. Hmm...
What about Toyota Noah..?
Thank you, thank you, thank you 🙏
The audio makes this really unwatchable which is such a shame
On the Pacifica, ignoring incentives and the plug in Hybrid is disingenuous. Nobody in the real world pays more for a Chrysler than a comparable Honda or Toyota, and nobody else offers a plug-in hybrid, yet you knock it for gas mileage. That said, I think Toyota's combination of a regular hybrid drivetrain along with their AWD system makes the Sienna the top pick for me. Can't find a single one on dealer lots, though.
Sienna LE Plus. Only one I would consider. I appreciate the fuel economy. AWD option.Long term ownership is a different world. Chrysler is Garbage. Kia has problems. Honda won’t hold up as well. You find Sienna vans with over 300k all the time.
They all feel Big to me on the road. There needs to be a new Mazda 5 type car.
Sure you got a kickback from Honda
Good reviews but need to upgrade your mic. Could not finish watching due to sound quality.
I like the Chrysler Pacifica
Better audio needed dude
Congrats on putting ad everywhere
Liters, kilometers???
Price difference between 8 passenger vans
Great review, but please get a new mic 🎙️. It is terrible.
The seats do fold into the floor 🤔, I just watched another review video
not the Pinnacle trim in this video
Did you just say that the odyssey does not have captain's chairs when every single trim has captain's chairs with the added bonus of the removable middle seat? Do you even know that you do not "have" to access the third row by going in between the second row seats? And how on earth did you not see that the middle row moves back and forth in the Odyssey?
The second row versatility in the Odyssey is miles ahead of all the other 3 and you made it sound like it is the weakest one. The dentist chairs are pointless for kids and the stow and go seats are awfully uncomfortable just so that you can hide the seats 1-2 times a year and suffer 99.9% of the time you use the van.
Honda is the weakest one , Honda is so far behind and so plain , odyssey does not technically come with captain chairs , yes you can make it into captain chairs kinda , kia is on top Honda is at the bottom sorry to break it to those Honda owners, they will never accept the fact that kia is better in recent years
@@geraldsciales4272 if you say so it must be true. Those sales figures, safety ratings, resale values and reliability numbers certainly are all wrong. Thank God you opened everybody's eyes.
After all, catching on fire, breaking all the time and having a gazillion of recalls means nothing if it looks trendy...
@@deniscdyck The honda odyssey elite is pretty up to date... safety should be first and the Honda has that.
Missing the kia carnival
Did anyone see the old guy Photo bomb 3:20
I'll take sienna all day!
The Odyssey is getting discontinued after the 2022 model year.
Source?
Scotty Kilmer
Only the Japanese Odyssey will be discontinued. The American Odyssey will still be in production.
Great video but the audio is terrible.
just the audio LEAVE THE CAMERA GUY ALONE .lol
voyager?
capacious...cool word
this was painful to get through because of the audio
Are you in America ? Why give all the specs in Euro measurements ?
He’s in Canada, using imperial. “ThinKMetric” as they say.
I hear white noise
you ar in montreal
Man that Odyssey is hideous and hard to look at. The main reason I'll never even consider it.
Whaaaat
I was consisting but not anymore
TOYOTA RUSH = $22,000 7seater
HONDA BR V = $22,000 7seater
TOYOTA AVANZA = $17,000 7SEATER
HONDA MOBILIO = $18,000 7SEATER
SUZUKI ERTEGA = $16,000 7seater
SUZUKI APV = $12,000 8seater