Tuned Civic Type R takes on Widebody Challenger Scat Pack, result may surprise you, drag and roll.
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Tuned Civic Type R takes on Widebody Challenger Scat Pack, result may surprise you, drag and roll. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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The man driving the Type-R obviously has some skill!
Especially with that launch
@@galacticmaui2 it just occurred to me, if he's got Hondata tuning, he gets launch control and a much more effective traction control system.
@@MrGunzngirlz I’m sure he has launch control most custom tunes still need hondata to tune it.
@@dynastyggg8718 no launch control was used
@@jdomingues366 hell, YOU ARE the launch control. Lmao. Amazing job on launch and shifting. You have serious skill man. Props.
Proud owner of a type R here. Test drove a scatpack and they are definitely faster but this guys civic held its own like boss. Mad respect bro.
Proud owner of the 10th gen civic si coupe with the type r engine thrown in. I’ll always dream of a viper but my little girl holds her own.
It's tuned. Don't get too excited... scats are fairly slow as is.
@@tacosg4216 did he say it was tuned...
@InvalidUsername _ title literally says "Tuned civic type r"
@@tacosg4216 looked like you was talking about the challenger...
I'm a Mopar guy but I give respect when it's due! Well done on that civic!
@Dale Macarena simply means motor parts! Dodge/ Chrysler/ jeep parts division to be precise. But Dodge guys like to identify that way
@Dale Macarena Mopar (More parts) cuz they always break
I own a Type R but have always loved Mopar stuff. Preferred Dodge over GM and Ford every time.
The only weak point on a mopar was the transmission. Back in the day.
@@deangillard5241 yeah I’d never drive anything Mopar over Gm or Ford. F150/Silverado>Ram, ZL1/Gt350> Hellcat, Mopar suvs not even in the same ballpark as GM/Ford
Nice finally a proper tuned TypeR, amazing what basic bolt on’s and a street tune can do.
Thats a lightly tuned type r , these can do 500hp with only a fuel upgrade
@@opadilla123 On stock turbo? Pump or e30/85?
I have seen tuned type r civics get smoked by tuned 370z with just an exhaust Lexus ISF with a tune and exhaust can smoke those civics and scatpacks easily lol
Racing a tuned car against a stock car.
@@opadilla123 Lol no they can’t.
I really admire your humbleness, gratitude and always positive attitude. Great videos!!!
Very nice of Sam to acknowledge the owner of the Challenger for bringing the car all the way from Florida to race. I am quite impressed by the Civic Type R.
Bro we appreciate thee type R content, thank you and yes we need more 🐐🤙💯
Civic’s a little quicker, that 8-speed auto helped the Challenger keep up ALOT.
And its wide body slowed the scat pack down. If they both had no wider body that would be interesting
Civic wtf is that overrated worst 50k ever
@@balesha85 It just beat a 500 hp Challenger with only like $3000 worth of mods what are you talking about lmao.
@@quick2mack74 it's heavier plus N/A engine it's still a civic end of the day overrated worst 50k anyone can spend 🤣🤣
@@balesha85 You’re an idiot lmao. N/A engine? And? N/A engines have better throttle response. And on top of that it’s 6.4 liters lmao. The Civic is a 2.0. The Challengers engine is literally THREE TIMES the size of the Civic’s.
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Dang, missed this one that day. So cool to see these little Honda's modded out to hang with big ole Mopars. Well done!
Lol
This ain’t a little old Honda….the type r is more expensive than the scatpack….
It ain’t modded out either
@@djzulumask2138 it is not more expensive than a 2021 scat, if you get a base model scat then mayyybe
@@djzulumask2138 overpriced
Could you please bring this Type R driver to every single Type R race?
god damn that 50th anniversary looks nice, That Type R is such a cool car too.
Man that is so impressive for the Type R. What a beast of a car. And after that, it can go set Porsche times on a track
I'm setting Porsche lap times in a stock engine Type R. Check my channel: Typerspeed. . My personal best is only 2 seconds slower than a GT3RS if I had an FBO tune I would be faster than him.
@@cybercityoedo808 that is awesome man! I have a 2018 FK8 R-13555 Aegean Blue. One of my favorite cars I've ever owned
and your wife can drive it to the grocery store
@@cybercityoedo808 but you’re still driving a civic and not a GT3
@@ImAHelicopterItIsSir superb observation
From Florida?!?! That owner of the scatpack is amazing
Good driving by the civic owner.
If I were to own a challenger , this is how it would have to be set up. What a wicked stance.
Amazing skills from the Type R driver, great tune and race!
Sam, a possible suggestion. A small segment between owners after the race on how they feel about the other owners’ car.
Interesting Jay, I will add that part at the end. Thank you
I kind of wish you would have rerun that manual mode race Sam. Great match up though. Special props to the Dodge owner and the road trip he ventured on to have his car featured on your video. Beautiful 50th anniversary Dodge. Outstanding manual shifts by the CTR driver as well. Impressive cars.
Definitely didn’t expect the Civic to be so fast. Impressive
There's around 1,200 pounds of gap between the two cars. Being a lightweight car and 380hp will help to keep up with a 485 HP Challenger Scatpack. The Civic weights around 3,200 pounds and the Challenger weights near 4,500 pounds.
I’m so proud to own an Fk8 Type R right now
Type R did a great job 👏
Man that Scat pack sounds and looks great
It does, there's nothing like the sound of a V8 and especially when it's a hemi.. It's a beautiful machine and like the retro gold paint to
Would be nice if it was manual
I've been waiting for a type R like this.
Love both these cars! I used to have a Type R and miss it watching this lol
Actually kind of surprised the Civic didn't walk the Challenger. Considering the mods the Civic has and the significant weight difference.
The mods are nothing but basic , didn’t help much
That went about as I expected. The weight helped the civic in the launch, but the trans and engine helped the Challenger at higher speeds.
I absolutely love both both cars and I am a car enthusiast. I Have the same car modded to 450bhp FK8, the FK8 on track is a monster. The challenger is a beautiful in fact its a car i wanted to buy. I love all Japanese and American cars and would love to have them all loool. I can say however the guy in the honda driving the manual Honda had great skills. Great video.
I went from watching Carwow to now watching your channel! Thanks for the awesome videos
...and now we know WHY we watched carwow prior and had it so good. Let's go back. j/k lol
Is he a Brazilian transplant in Canada? Odd accent.
Simply brilliant production.
Great video as always. One thing shoulda made clear though the Civic making 380wheel hp the challenger making 485crank hp. There's 15 to 20% drivetrain loss in hp between crank and wheel.
Right
I love the man driving the type r hes so skilled bro
When the Civic mentioned HP/torque ratio about the same, I knew it was fast!!😎👍🏿
The Type R is one of the best and fastest front wheel drive cars on the track. Like a real track where you use the steering wheel
That’s crazy I didn’t think the type r would go head to head with the scatpack the guy driving the civic is 1 hell of a driver
Its a tuned civic with an extra 120hp
@@Spiritcr1jsher Yes, the additional 120 h.p. made the Civic a formidable opponent.
Civic Type R did extremely well. On a track it would definitely win.
I have a 22 Scat in the same spec as the Gold one. Those Type R's are really cool cars and I find their drivers are normally pretty damn cool out on the roads and always down for "Shenanigans" lol
Good driving, gents!
Lololol at the manscaped ad. Not gonna lie I could probably use the ball stuff in the summer! Gets hot down there!
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With such a huge weight difference and the tuning I didn't know what to expect. Thanks for the vid! On that first roll I could hear the engine protest that early upshift
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For a track car the Type R is impressive
I smoked a civic type r on the highway in a 4 door f250 diesel with a thousand pounds of tools and a transmission in the bed. From 60 to probably 120 just annihilated it.
Thanks for doing this. It was fun to see how it would turn out. I mean there's a 1300 plus pound difference in the two cars. So the Civic R having some bolts on's and a tune and huge weight diff about evened it out. But the Challenger is much bigger and comfortable and has that V8 sound track which is heavenly.
Dodge still had so much more hp , dodge is a joke
@@tripledub0evoxgsr yet that's a stock car going against a car with bolt ons and is tuned. Do the same to the challenger and it's lights out.
@@tripledub0evoxgsr People like you are jokes. You realize if you build on anything. It will go faster then anything thats stock. I have a 2016 challenger with an performance chip and it goes well a good 500 hp added on my 392. I destroyed an type R. I don't get what you talking about.
We need a rematch with the actual driver of the challenger which will make a huge difference with the results
Yup, nice civic, but that Challenger can move much quicker than the host raced
Man these plucking civics keeps surprising me when they're tuned, first was the tuned cvt civic now this, I guess the don't mess with a civic and a laptop ain't no joke, plucking 4 cylinder manual just kept up a damn auto v8
Its 1500 lbs more so there's that
@@evaristocorripio5434 there's also more hp and torque and no effects from heat soak from a turbo. So there's that. Also those bosch ecu in the type r cut power when temps are exceeded. That's why they can only do a few laps on a track before having to cool down
And that type r is not even at its potential
The v8 is stock give the v8 the same upgrades or jus bolts on
@@dylandacasual6866 let's give the civic an extra 4 cylinders and 4.4l more of displacement to make it even then lol
I have an 18 Type R, full bolt on's and tuned. Also swapped out the factory 20" wheels for 18" with meatier tires. 430 whp, I walk R/T's and 392 Scat Pack's all the time. From a roll, the Type R is a beast. So far the car that has beat me with the biggest gap is a bolt on and tuned 22 M3... M3's are no joke!
Beautiful machine from FL! Thanks for the slow mo’s!
Much props to the Type-R , job well done brother 🤝
They looked even to me. Depends on the driver and who gets the jump.
well said
Love the type r and huge respects to the guy driving the R 👌🏼
those wheels look so good on that type r
That's. Was a good. Race im still looking for. The cadillac cts and the Mercedes-Benz
Sam do a Infiniti q50 red sport 400 vs bmw m340i please
It's interesting to see that once you guys got into higher speeds the type r starts to pull from the challenger. If you'd have longer races we'd see the type r win on a dig and a roll
@Eric Esposito boost kicks in really low so it makes peak tq around 2000-2200 rpm. The reason it takes a second for the type r to pull on the challenger is the manual trans. The ctr has a fairly short gear ratio so once you get into 3rd/4th is when you'll see it pull away. 1 and 2 are short
It's probably because the Challenger was off the throttle. I respect the CTR, but it can't beat a Scat on a straight line
The Scat Pack is built to drag its really not very good if its a roll race
@@ambassador_fleet they type r was pulling THEN he let off throttle
@@ambassador_fleet exactly lol the scat let off
The civic is modded perfectly for its weight. Nice job not overdoing it.
Seems like the civic will push harder if they keep going
Hondas make power all the way to redline. The harder you push them the harder they pull.
Just a recommendation...put the ads at the end of the video. 😁
At one time I was in ad hell.🔥👹
That fk8 is sooooo clean 👌
Whoever is pushing that Civic I salute 2 him.
This is how almost every race started against a pony car when I had my Speed3 (400whp). Everyone called BS when I said I beat them off the line and just kept pulling away lol. Simply comes down to driver's mod which is obvious type r driver has👌 Good comparison and runs
No he has the same hp to the wheels with almost 1000lbs less weight
Clearer stat is: The Type R is pulling 8.2lb per horsepower vs 8.9 for the Scat Pack.
I have a similar build for my fk8 nice to see
Traction off from dig, track mode with comfort suspension on(for weight transfer) hold brake rev to 1800rpm, feather throttle and slowly push down throttle. That Challenger can move a lot quicker.
Roll: Track mode, sport mode suspension. Keep in 2nd gear at launch then hammer it, that front end will rise and move violently. Don’t know if stock Scatpack would beat that tuned Type R on roll but it should be dusting it in Dig races
Love it. I own both the Type R and a Charger Scat Pack. Two worlds apart, but I prefer the Charger Scat pack. This set up wasn’t a fair comparison as one car is full bolt on and tune vs a Stock manufacture car. Line up stock for stock and the Challenger gaps that thing hard, take em to a circuit track and civic dances circles around the Challenger.
What comparison are you trying to make? The Challenger was stock and the Civic was "tuned" with several thousand dollars worth of mods. Lets add an equal amount in mods and tune for the Challenger and see what happens. Or, is the point that we can throw several thousand dollars at a Civic type R and it can just about keep up with a stock Scat Pack Challenger? Bizarre.
Civic still fire tho turbo charged cars are always slept on
Here’s an idea, the money that was put into the type r put it into the challenger and race again. I don’t get why or how people get tuned cars vs stock cars ? It’s like a trained fighter vs a street fighter
You have to give Honda respect. All of this is coming from a 2.0
Manually shifting one of the best auto trans zf trans 🙄you making the challenger shift slow trust me I knw 😔
I've always wondered, let my DCT shift automatically or do I shift myself at specific RPMs. . In my M4
That type r has at least 4K in upgrades to performance. His cosmetic mods, well the wheels are about 4K, the taillights 800$. And the back diffuser around that as well as the front vent blocks.
I have a red type r. Still nothing beats a clean white one.
A serious question since u have had time with both Sam, which would you choose, a TYPE R or a Veolster N?
This makes me a proud Honda owner 👍 but I have always wondered what the type r would be like all wheel drive 🤔
I feel sorry for you lol
@@kylegallant3423 why is that lol
@@davidauerswald6071 because that person is a hater who probably doesn’t even own a vehicle. Hondas are sleepers and this channel proves time and time again Hondas can keep up just fine.
The type r at a roll is no joke if that race would’ve been longer it would left the challenger
I leave them all the time on the highway in my 2017 civic sport at 185hp because it's just to nimble... cat and mouse
@@semperfi-guy lol that literally makes zero sense unless you're simply driving like an idiot through other cars in traffic.
@@nighthawk0077 he races against people that aren't racing lol
@@nighthawk0077 Pick your car couldn't Alabama now show you?
@@semperfi-guy cool, still making zero sense.
The civic deserves the all sorts of praise. But damn, there's nothing better than a shaker hood!
Really love the fitment of the type r
Wow, good on the modded civic ... I'll still take a stock challenger.
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Wow nice video great race. I take civic any day tho bcus of its reliability and gas efficient it'll get me farther and longer for sure..
@@TorontoManss um, he said he would take the civic because of its reliability.
Im a scatpack owner myself and fucking impressed. Thats crazy I love honda’s forever.
Nice runs, but if the Challenger was manual, the Challenger would of seen the Civic Type Rs tail lights. The automatic helped with keeping up with the Type R. Kudos to the Type R, little 4 banger beating a big V8.
The owner of the Civic forgot to say that he has much better tires and lighter wheels put on as well. This is a HUGE difference!
going down a tire size usually means putting a tire on that last longer, not necessarily stickier, and also adds torque steer... I would be curious to know what tire he has on there
@@skittlesrainbowunicorn6129 Looking at the shoulder of the tire, you can see that they are pretty smooth, so it must be a semi-track or track tire. I found out that having stickier tires give less torque steer, but then, I have a V6 accord (few mods) and complete different (stock) dif than a Type R. Higher offset does add a bit more torque steer but it looks stock on this Civic. I do not do track with it, just road use. Tires are TW200 on my car. 18" on that Civic is much better than the 19" or 20" wheels it comes with. Any way, no pro here, I just like cars.
I’d take the civic… them big boats just ain’t my steez
I was looking for this comment 🎯
Brian X Dom vibes with the tuner vs muscle 🔥💪🏽🙏🏼
Wow that Civic a sleeper!
All it took was 380 HP to pretty much stay on par with that Scat pack with 500 or 600 HP. Lets not even see a CRX with 2000 lbs and 300 HP see what I am saying. Its not about power its about balance weight and traction , plus power . That Type R would make that Scat pack look silly on race track with turns it would be way way behind.
Like you stated.... on windy roads the R would destroy the scat pack.
All your points are valid. People think HP and it means better....not necessarily.
How could fwd outdig rwd…some lousy driving in the challenger. Props to tuned civic though. He knows how to drive.
civic is like a thousand lbs lighter with 380 to the wheels scats make like 420-430 wheel and it’s nowhere near as aerodynamic
@@dontestuckey2200 380fwhp is no easy task to hook-up well from a dig with street tires, but I agree with your points when it come to a roll race.
@@speed23ism yea and same for the scat he spun but the civic has weight right over the front tires that helped too
@@dontestuckey2200 Respectfully, your are not factoring in weight transfer at launch regarding traction, RWD has better traction than FWD. I suppose that's the point I was trying to make.
@@speed23ism i feel you
Hats off for the Type R.
FK8 FTW! Handsome Looking car! Glad I have one! 💪
Nice it has a V8 under the engine 😂..I love it
Good catch :)
@@SamCarLegion great work..I love your videos.
You guys gotta account that the CTR is manual which is “supposedly” slower 😉
Would love to own that type R
Civic: “Bro! I almost had you!”
Challenger (in super deep voice): “you never had me. You never had your car.”
basically you just need 400hp to take out a scatpack and some weight reduction. Because that boat thing is heavy.
What happens if the boat thing is tune and bolts on too 🤔then how much hp u need
@@gilbertacosta4862 dont worry..the boat will tip over and hit a stop sign, a tree, or a group of people.
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I just want smoke all these muscle cars I mean I'm going get a g35 and tune it out but I have a v8 corvette lol 😆
@@footballfan7894 sign*
for the roll you would’ve been fine with traction off you would have had him
Type r not stock and it has some top-of-the-line aftermarket stuff you have the right part to your car it can be a beast
Pretty cool for a civic to do that, in fact I'd love to own one, but man does that dodge sound better...
5:48 if you want to skip the usual waffle
Hey can you do a Alfa Romeo gulia vs TLX type s ?
The ultimate Italian sports sedan question. Acura TLX Type S vs Alfa Romeo Gulia. (I know that the Acura is not “true true Italian” like the Alfa Romeo kinda is; but for some reason Acura and Honda is very very popular amongst Italians between my family, extended Italian family, and friends.)
@@SilverScarletSpider you want the type s owner to cry?
@@SilverScarletSpider yea well the TLX is Japanese . I think the Alfa will win the race but I still want to see it . It would be interesting. And yea Acura and Honda are amazing cars .
@@SilverScarletSpider Japan sports sedan vs The Italian Alfa Romeo .
@@elviscedenoworldtv3989 that would be a good one to see
"No replacement for displacement." Boost. Boost is the Replacement for displacement. I love tuned Hondas they are so good at punching above their weight class. Half the cylinders, 100 fewer ponies and still holding it down.
Cool video! I've got the exact same car! Gold Rush # 25 of 70. That import weighs Half of the challenger..You should have run it on top end! Had mine to 180 still pulling! Great video! I've never seen what mine looks like goin down th road. Thumbs up!
CTR has way better top end. Thats why you can see it pulling everytime near the end of the 1/4
@@jdomingues366 That dude couldn't drive that car. He lifted..Said he was scared..I own one! I know!
@@jdomingues366 sweet!
I responded to seeing another 50th! I dont understand the point of racing a moded tuned import with a 4400 lb Stock muscle car. Every one knows the lighter the car the quicker th ET. That's why mustang's have always been faster than Camaros then mopars. I'm sure that Ricer weighs less than a mustang. I would like to see the same with a mustang. Or both the 392 and th hellcat race. He said the dude brought both. Would have to get rid of the stock tires...they suck!
This is the 22 of 70. What state are you in?
“It has a v8 under the engine”
2 V8's ? Or is the engine on top a different displacement?
Massive weight difference and power difference good job type r but the challenger still rocks
Tuned Type R make me want one
On an actual race track, type R would smoke it by a good margin.
On an actual drag strip, the scat Pack would have beat the Civic even worse from a dig.
Not surprising at all lol tuned 4 bangers beat v8 muscle all the time.