Top 10 Dune Facts You Might Not Know
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- We can't wait to see Denis Villeneuve's take on this iconic work of fiction. For this list, we’ll be going over the lesser known facts about “Dune” - the movies, the books, and everything in between. Our countdown includes Trailer Parallels, An Abandoned Adaptation with Big Names, Unanswered Questions Are Intentional, and more! If there’s any “Dune” fact whose absence you think is a “mind-killer,” let your fears pass over you and tell us about it in the comments.
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Fear is the little death. ✌😸
I’d love to see a deeper dive into the various factions, and how they relate to each other. Also, the story of Paul’s sister is fascinating.
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Yes, Star Wars was influenced by Dune, and both Star Wars and Dune were influenced by Edgar Rice Burrough's "Princes of Mars" book written in 1912, the first of his Barsoom series. Bits and pieces, it's fun to see how other writers interpret the material.
You know, I’ve always considered myself a Sci fi fan but comments like this make me realize how much more there is to discover. I personally am loving the modern cinema renditions of these classic author’s works. Thanks for sharing this factoid. 🖖🏿
I thought its main influence was from Isacc Azomoves Foundation series.
How about John Carter by the same author
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Actually "Prince of Mars" was heavily influenced by "Other Worlds" written by Hanz Lemith in 1892. Many people aren't aware of this because I just made it up to sound more informed than this gentleman that is clearly very informed. Thanks for the info Greg!
Loved the Lynch film. I watched it almost every weekend when I was a kid. Still love it. That said, this new version is a damned masterpiece.
Cinematography and VFX, AND THE ACTING, have really progressed tremendously throughout the very short years. AMAZING.
Really think Zendaya will ruin it though lol she just stares confusingly the whole movie but we'll see how she does in the sequel
I didn't realize how much of an influence Dune had on Star Wars. Fascinating
Take a look on "God Emperor of Dune" and you will see Jabba the Hutt
I mean akira kurosawa is the real I aspiration for star wars as stated by George Lucas but sure.
Lucas had spice in Star Wars
Herbert and his editor once sat down to calculate the odds against all the coincidences between Dune and Star Wars, and came up with a number greater than the number of stars in the universe
eh, People say that but its not that true. Apocalypse Now (Vietnam War) and Flash Gordon are really what inspired Star Wars the most. George Lucas was actually supposed to direct Apocalypse Now and it was going to be quite a different movie than what we got. Star Wars and the 'Rebellion versus the Empire' is inspired by the Vietnamese versus the United States during the war. So take that idea and put a spacy Flash Gordon theme over it and you get Star Wars. George Lucas and Francis Coppola are friends and used to shoot the sh*t with each other a lot back in the day. Not a lot of people seem to know that. They basically dreamt up Apocalypse Now together, but Coppola was more driven to work on and finish the movie and George lost control over it which lead him to use some of his ideas from that and put it into Star Wars.
I would say some of the deeper philosophical aspects in Star Wars might be inspired by Dune though. Like the "Zen" aspect of the Force and whatnot and the whole Messiah/prophecy thing.
Arrakis is Arabic for "The Dancer" and is the name of the star Mu Draconis, the mouth or tongue of the great wyrm in the northern sky. Algeidi is the horn of the goat in the southern sky, Alpha Capricornus or "Geidi Prime".
Woah!!🤯
spoiler from italy where it came to theatre on september: it's awesome, the most beatiful and brutla blockbuster of all time, a vintage colossal made with the modern tecnologies
I have to ask this. How does it compare to David Lynch's "Dune"? I've seen the Sci-fi channel's, (disappointing) and I love Lynch's version. Unless the 2000 release was the Sci-fi channel's version, I missed that one.
It's dammned difficult, turning a 1,000 plus page book into a movie of 90 minutes. Dune is really tough; lots of politics, ,many different locations, and the cast of characters that impact Paul, and the workings of the Bene Gesserit and Mentats is enough to make you crazy as a director.✌😸
@@PhoenixLyon well at least this movie is gonna be 150 minutes. I think it's going to be pretty good
@@PhoenixLyon in a nutshell it's better: shorter but deeper, essential and you can't hear the soundtrack and sounds without feeeling small; trust me see it on theatre it's the only way to joy it
@@matteomariucci6520 Thanks! Been looking forward to this for 6 months! I hope our theater picks it up. I live in an area that thinks science fiction is still in the pulp magazine market. LOL ✌😸
@@eyob.t1389 A bit over two hours...hmm. I doubt if even that's really long enough. I don't care! I've been a fan of "Dune" since first reading it at 12 years old. I'm 59 now, and have had to replace my copy of the book about 3 times. LOL Theater, here I come!✌😸
5:03 “Dune fans would’ve surely loved it”
Weeeell, that’s a hard statement to back because Jodorowsky was planning on making WAY too many changes and it would’ve basically been it’s own story more than it would’ve been “Dune”
Lady Jessica being shitted on by thousands of Sardaukars...and a giraffe on fire :p
I agree with you 100%
I agree (I wouldn't want). Most significant, would make Paul a Jesus conceived by a virgin, and Dune about a God, instead of a critique about the dangerous relation between politics and religion.
That's what it means to be an adaption though.
Can’t say for sure but yeah, it would have been garbage, IMO.
Villeneuve’s 2021 Dune is a modern sci-fi masterpiece: 10/10. But I also love Lynch’s Dune: the music & costuming have aged particularly well. For a real treat, check out the 3 hour “Spice Runner” fan edit of Lynch’s Dune, available for free on TH-cam. The extra hour allows for more coherent exposition & world building.
The best thing that I can say about this new Dune movie is that it got me to go back and watch the 1984 original.
masterpiece??... 10/10???... dude, you gotta be a meth-head.
[TECHNICAL ANALYSIS]
Still cant figure out if the new version is better than Lynch's in general or some shiny shit, so did kind of a technical analysis of the major parts splitting 10 points between each...
(+ means there's something about it where it should be bumped up, and - something overrated or especially bad and should bump down, so +=cool, -=sucks)
ex1.: paul, ya timi is better and closer to the book, pretty good actor i guess, especially younger, kyle wasn't great but not bad either, but none of them really measure to what paul should be.
ex2.: hornithopter, clearly '21 wins, not even a contest, but they are especially great while '84 was especially a "phonebooth", maybe a cool "phonebooth" but still a "phonebooth".
ex1.: thumper, theres zero arguing for '21 ('84 was solid AF and iconic) and it even looks, feels and sounds like an airbed pump, so -.
Lynch'84 Villeneuve'21
paul 3- 7-
chani 6 4
leto 2 8
jessica 1 9
duncan 1 9
baron 4+ 6
rabban 0 10
gurney 4+ 6
stilgar 0 10+
piter de vries 6+ 4+
yueh 3 7
thufir 6 4
reverend mot 5+ 5
maid 8+ 2
GUILD 8 2
SARDOKAR 1 9
FREMENS 4 6
FREMENS(mystic) 8 2
WORMS 4+ 6
SHEILDS 3+ 7
SPACE TRAVEL 9 1
SPACESHIP 2+ 8
HORNITHOPTER 1- 9+
HARVESTER 3 7
STILLSUIT 6 4
THUMPER 10 0-
the box 7 3
the voice 7 3
mouse 1 9
hand fights 2 8
battles 1 9
worm riding 6+ 4
MUSIC 10 0
THEME 8+ 2+
SOUNDTRACK 3 7+
SFX 7 3
VOICE INTRO 8 2
DECOR INT 9+ 1
DECOR EXT 3 7+
Caladan FEEL 7 3
Arrakis FEEL 5 5
Geidi Prime FEEL 0 10
VISUAL AWE 3+ 7
EMOTIONAL AWE 7 3
MYSTIC FEEL 9 1
REALITY FEEL 2 8+
IMMERSION 7 3
PACING 6 4
PLOT EXPLAIN 7 3-
MEMORABILITY 9 1+
BUDGET 118M 165M
CONCLUSION 242(12+/2-) 258(8+/3-)
(kind of)
Conclusion: ok, overall on paper maybe '21 is better, more faithful to Dune too, but '84 has more "cool touch" and with all that and all that time i was expecting more than pretty much equals and on my side at least on the hypothetical situation where ... then Lynch wins.
Thanks Jesse, I wasn’t aware of this. I’ll give it a watch. 👍🏼🙂
I loved it also. Definitely deserves more praise but I would give it a 9/10.
@@MuktiLuv you're calling him a meth head? This shit was amazing.
Another fun fact that might be interesting to some, Dune II by Westwood Studios was the genre defining game for the Real Time Strategy (RTS) genre of video games. It is widely considered to be an important part of video game history .
Yes! I was thinking about the game when I saw the ecological center and remembered bringing water to Arakis.
Brought back so many memories
FOR THE DUKE!!!
You missed the fact there’s a song about the book and film. To Tame A Land by Iron Maiden. It was supposed to be called Dune but the Author didn’t like heavy metal so the band changed the name and recorded it anyway. It’s on their 4th album Piece of Mind.
That's my favorite song from Iron Maiden! And favorite album for that matter.
@@villain68 It’s my fav song from that album along with Still Life. My fav album is Brave New World.
Im not into Metal that much, i rate Metallica but that Iron Maiden track is wicked.💯🔥🎵
It’s a fucking masterpiece
Patrick Stewart will always be Gurney in my heart
@Major Problems That Pug was an Atriedes battle master. All hail the Pug!
@@cpscdave ya, the king of Thailand did the same... Seriously!
See I love Patrick but I always felt he was miscast in that role I never really saw him as a good fit for that role but I like him a lot
@Major Problems I used to run a Dune forum, and it was impossible to talk about that pug dog without Google running ads for pug breeders, trainers, and kennels.
It's a cute dog, but a ridiculous addition to the movie. That dog couldn't possibly have survived 4 years on Arrakis, as it had no stillsuit to preserve its water, and the Fremen would have taken its water rather than waste resources on keeping it alive.
I've been playing Dune for 20 years. Has to be some kind of record. I beat Atrades, Harkonen and Ordos at least 50 times each. I can't stop playing.
"Sandworms are the equivalents of dragons." That made my day!
That comment actually made me think of Game of Thrones and what would’ve happened if it was written by the same author
@@robertcohen1888 The Dornish would be The Targeryans😆
Frank Herbert's "Dune Encyclopedia" answers most of the unanswered questions from the books and movies. It is a must read for any Dune fan, if you can find a copy. It goes into the science, the background of all the major groups and characters, the background of the Empire, why computers were forbidden, and even taboo topics about Baron H's sex life. Once I picked it up, I couldn't put it down until I finished it - it is as long as the three first books combined and an actual encyclopedia - not a story at all.
Is it out of print now?
Where is it available?
@@dirtyhobo4252 the son of Frank Herbert made it non canon.
@@sysrqstoic z-library. I won't copy and paste the link here because if I do there's a chance my comment will get deleted on my account might be blocked. This happens on Facebook if I try to share any links to that website. You can definitely find a digital version there.
First four books. It covers Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, and God Emperor of Dune. It includes sheet music for a few of Gurney's songs, and a cute story about a couple of elderly Bene Gesserit sisters who work in a chapterhouse laundry and win a contest sponsored by a soap company. The prize is a trip to the pleasure planet of Gamont, where they learn a few new facts of life (Gamont is like a planet-sized Mardi Gras).
Oh, and the Encyclopedia tells the real story of the Butlerian Jihad.
Regarding the original publisher, CHilton: Herbert joked with his editor that they’d retitle it “How To Repair Your Ornithopter”.
I finally watched Dune 1984 this weekend and I'm ready to see the new Dune in IMAX next Friday. It looks like a masterpiece 🔥
You should watch the miniseries it was much better than the 1984 Dune movie
@@telall LOVE the 1984 version and will always have a special place in my heart. Loved the mini-series too. Both have their merits and I'm sure there's enough love from Dune fans to go around. People tend to crap on the 1984 movie too much, but given when it came out and the FX for the day, it was well ahead of it's time. I remember as a kid seeing in the theatre on first cinematic release...I was mesmerized, as much as folks are with this new version from Villeneuve are now. 1984 version was good for it's day, and it is what it is. Don't hold it up to the same standard as if it were made today. Just enjoy it for what it is and for the time it was made in.
@@telall Do yourself a favour and watch the 2012 Spicediver fan edit. It makes the 2000s miniseries look like community theatre.
Peace!
@@telall if i said you were born in 1982- 1986 would i be right-if so how would i know that
*The Hype must flow!*
I love how I never see Dune 2000 listed anywhere... The few quick references in here are more than I've seen before.
WB played this movie dirty! This is a masterpiece to be seen in the big screen. Still great story and worth seeing
to be clear, we are now in the situation where we took 3 pictures of a sunset (Dune)...
-one taken by a top modern photographer on a top of the line Nikon which was set at 1.2megapixels. (21)
-another taken by a pretty good photographer at 5Megapix, but with a fisher price camera. (2000)
-and the last one taken by an iconic photographer on acid with an underwater camera at 3Mpx. (84)
and we are arguing which one is the best...
...ultimately the answer is that they are all shit.
cool to look at ok, but still sucks compare to the source.
if that makes sense to you.
Me - with my expectations for Dune 2021...“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
ya, fear is gone but it took the dream away with it... hope of a good adaptation was still blown to shit.
The one thing I noticed the most was the updated look of the sandworms when compared to the 1984 film
looks like a washing-machine drain with hair...
"Still forthcoming..." Dude I've seen it 3 times already
This film sports a distinctly Arabic theme, in keeping with author Frank Herbert having used Islamic culture as an influence for his story.
Composer Hans Zimmer is a big fan of the novel Dune, and turned down working with frequent collaborator Christopher Nolan on Tenet (2020) to score this film. For the same reason, Denis Villeneuve was the top choice but turned down the offer to direct the Bond film No Time to Die (2021).
In Dune (1984), all the Harkonnen were depicted as red-haired. In this movie they are all depicted as bald.
Rebecca Ferguson plays the mother of Timothée Chalamet despite being only 12 years older than him.
Actor Timothée Chalamet was 23 when he played Paul Atreides, two years younger than Kyle MacLachlan when he played the same role in Dune (1984). In the novel, Paul was 15 years old.
Denis Villeneuve has revisited Dune (1984) and continued Blade Runner (1982). Sean Young played the main character's love interest in both films back in the 80s.
The film's clothing is based on Dune (1984): the Harkonnen soldiers wear bulky green armor, the Atreides workers wear black uniforms with high collars and kepi caps, and the Sardaukar wear full pressure suits (while in the book they wore regular military uniforms and helmets).
David Dastmalchian's third movie with director Denis Villeneuve, following Prisoners (2013) and Blade Runner 2049 (2017).
The cast features one Oscar winner (Javier Bardem) and three Oscar nominees (Josh Brolin, Timothée Chalamet, and Charlotte Rampling).
"A Star Wars for adults."
- Denis Villeneuve
"Villeneuve is a fukking moron"
- me
Two thumbs up for the latest movie. Really really loved it.
Seen it five times so far. Make sure to watch this on the big screen. I never experienced the whole cinema applauding at the end before.
Dude, where do you live so that I never visit... on my side, a guy literally kicked a trash can out the cinema... me, im now watching dune 2000 and 2003 trying to clean my brain-cells of that shit.
Saw last night loved it, audio visual delight, no surprise coming from the team that brought the sensational Blade Runner 2049. (And yes the line, what's in the box, occurs...)
“Dune” depicts the whole civilization, science, economy & society, politics, material & human resources, environments⭐.
Thus, it makes us think about all kinds of sustainability, environmental, economic, social (or human), and political🌎.
The ingenious SF setting revives old-style weapons or schemes and improves human abilities, creating excellent edutainment.
This American masterpiece seems to tell us the importance of human improvement, not of some people but all people♥.
I love the 2021 so much ! Also I saw a lot of similarities with jodorowsky's metabaron comics🤔
didn't know other Dune films existed apart from the 1984 flick. Thx i have something to watch now !
I found the SciFi Channel version to be quite good and more faithful to the books. And it goes all the way through Children of Dune.
I've watched it 4 times and my jaw dropped from opening to end Everytime. I want to read the books but don't want to spoil the story for my eyes when part 2 comes out. It better come soon.
It was definitely the imagery I has while reading the book in the 70’s, especially the omnithopters
I Love the cast of the 2021 film. Paul mother in the 2021 version was a little plain looking. The 1984 mother was gorgeous. The 1984 version will always be my favorite. I can't wait until part two.
All 3 adaptations are very worthy. Lynch's version gave me a taste of Dune and prompted me to re-read the book that I abandoned in high school for "Lord of the Rings." I still go back and watch his version as a capable encapsulation of the novel. The Sci-Fi channel's mini-series is well worth watching. The production values are low but the acting and the storylines closely follow Frank Herbert's books. Definitely watchable and enthralling. Villeneuve's adaptation is the be-all-and-end-all theatrical release. He has nailed it, hook line and sinker. I hope that he will develop a trilogy that will encompass "Dune Messiah" and "Children of Dune." Herbert's 6 novels are not to be missed!
Please go to cinema. I saw it. It was phenomenal🙂. I'm from Germany, by the way. The film started here already ^^
Recently watched 2021 Dune on HBO, I really enjoyed it. Now Im a fan of Lynch (I even watched the third season of Twin Peaks.) so I will be watching the 80's version soon.
Ive never seen the original movie nor know anything about the franchise. imma enjoy this one.
I actually like that about dune that the tech part isnt explained so much its makes it more realistic if you compare it to a movie or series that takes place in our time they dont ad all tech details about how a car works or a plane or a cellphone either. I mean paul knows about space ships, trafel in one. I know about trains and travel in them yet i have no idea what a train engine does other then make the train go. On shows like star trek you understand its needed to ad it as the crew knows about the tech stuff and you as viewer get to see it to in for example scenes where you see geordie and date do tech things but for the story of dune its not needed as you never see paul work on a space ship or build tech things
6:50 "Both heroes discover a villain is secretly their relative." That was the big shocker for me having recently read the book after only seeing Lynch's adaptation.
I feel that it was not revealed in the first book, but it's a while since I've read it now.
@@jenspettersen7837 From the first book:
Paul: "When next you find a mirror, study your face--study mine now. The traces are there if you don't blind yourself. Look at my hands, the set of my bones. And if none of this convinces you, then take my word for it. I've walked the future, I've looked at a record, I've seen a place, I have all the data. We're Harkonnens."
Jessica: "A . . . renegade branch of the family," she said. "That's it, isn't it? Some Harkonnen cousin who--"
Paul: "You're the Baron's own daughter," he said, and watched the way she pressed her hands to her mouth. "The Baron sampled many pleasures in his youth, and once permitted himself to be seduced. But it was for the genetic purposes of the Bene Gesserit, by one of you."
@@BradCozine Specifically the Emperor's Truth Sayer, Gaius Helen Mohiam. This was only revealed in Brian Herbert's prequel series, but it is quite obvious from the start if you read between the lines in the first book.
SPOILER: I believe this is why Alia kills herself. Because she finally realized that she was blood relative to the Harkonnens. Where in the Lynch movie they make that known almost immediately.
@@GremlinHunter In the 1st book Paul tells his mother Jessica that she his Baron's daughter. In the day that they crash in the dessert.
At the end of the book, when Alia kill the Baron she says something like: I'm sorry grandfather, I've poisoned you with Gom Jabbar". Alia knew everything her mother knew.
Amazing
I perceive the wierding modules from Lynch's Dune as a metaphor when someone says "Muad'dib" it causes huge destruction just like the jihad in Muad'dib's name in his name many die
I Dune ends up being a simple two part movie that closely follows the first book I will happily throw my money at it. I mean people are willing to watch a 2-3 hour movie these days, so you can get away with minimal changes and cuts. Just keep the story and the detail the books have and focus on the characters and the environment.
The new movie is very, very much like the 84" version. With better visuals obviously. They got rid of the irritating Narative style. However that also leaves you with much less information about what's going on and why.
@@jameshampton1832 it is really nothing like 1984 version…I guess you saw it. It was always the case it would take a 9-12 hour movie to adequately tell the story. Let’s hope Part 2 is being filmed now.
@@zaurakdigis I hope they are working on #2 now also. I do think it's about 90% like they 84 version, but does it really matter. If you like it that is all that matters. I agree it would take a 7 hour Trilogy to even come close to covering the book, something you'll just never get to see.
@@jameshampton1832 I thought they nailed it….the music, the visuals, the casting, etc everything was better.
Will be at least 3 parts.
Best movie I've seen in awhile!
sand worms... Tremors comes to mine more then anything lol
I just watched the 2021 and it was great. I never saw the 1984 movie. I’m typically not a big Sci Fi fan. My thoughts about it was if Star Wars and Mad Max at a movie baby it would be Dune.
Keep it up on your work and this channel
Already seen it, as in Italy it was already out in theaters.
Go see it. It merits to see the part 2
The only thing that shocks me is are those gigantic dune worms. Like the ones that go after Beetlejuice and the other one that almost are Sandy the squirrel from BobPants SpongeSquare.
Number 11, The first RTS style video game is about Dune
I think there will be a major arch with the Paul and the character Jamis that isn't in the books. One of the things I don't think a lot of people got out of the movie is the ending fight between Paul and Jamis, as well as all of the "flash back/forward" scenes of Jamis talking to Paul. By the end of the film, Paul is already experiencing being able to see through spacetime and had built some kind of relationship with Jamis. So when Paul kills him at the end, he's basically killing his teacher/friend, which is why Paul mourns Jamis so much.
Jamis is probably who taught Paul how to put on his stillsuit correctly.
I think in the next film, we will see more of Jamis.
I ENJOYED DUNE!
Phenomenal book with good movie
George Lucas has said he never thought Dune would be made as a movie so he used some of his favourite parts for Star Wars he never denied Dune had a big impact on him and Star Wars.
I am obsessed with DUNE
Thanks heaps
Spice in Dune is basically essential like oil in the modern world. Spice in Star Wars is more like an opioid, it can be used for medical purposes but also as a hardcore drug.
DUNE WAS AWESOME!
Won't mind the parallels whatsoever as I'm a big fan of the David Lynch version, so no risk of feeling weary of a repeat. If anything, it would feel like a visually updated, modernized filming director's cut at worst. Still, I feel more optimistic with being able to follow along, appreciative of the different takes and additions and hopeful to see a fleshing out of characters who barely had any screen time in Lynch's version, like Duncan Idaho and Liet Kynes. Bring it on!
If you look at the surface of Titan, you can see those names themselves. Arrakis Planitia, Buzzell Planitia and Rossak Planitia. Another fun little fact is that all of its mountains are named after mountains from _The Lord of the Rings._ Doom Mons, anyone?
Here's a fact I do know.
The new movie finishing before Paul Atreides even makes it to the seitch and becomes Paul Mua'dib feels like we only got half a movie.
I like that it ends like that. Paul Atreides’ metaphorical death and the the next will start with Mau’dib life.
I ❤️ this video
In both Dune and Star Wars, the heroes are also trying to deal with an evil emperor.
Uhm actually, Dune is not as much about Paul Atreides as it is about the House and their dealings in the universe over several generations itself. Arguably, most of the story is about Paul's son Leto II, who transforms into a sandworm-human hybrid and rules with absolute authority (as the only source of spice) for 3.5 thousand years; and about the Bene Gesserit, an order of sighted women, who maintain more power and the longest consistent influence in galactic politics than anyone else. It is a six book series after all, and not just a single novel. ;)
I like the first Dune movie
Impresionante
In an alternate universe they got 3 Dune trilogies and star wars a new hope just came out
Some have said Dune is to sci-fi what LotR is to fantasy.
ya, some also said that the moon was made of cheese with a strawberry-gelly core... who's that "some" that you speak of so fondly?
Arthur C. Clarke said it.
I know I have watched older Dune movie(s) many years ago, but other than sand worms and blue eyes, I don't remember any of it.
I watched the new Dune movie just this past weekend, and other than sand worms, personal shields and blue eyes, I don't remember any of it already.
Wild Sandworm appeared!
I chose you: Steelix!
Today i got Curious and went to a fandom site and read all spoilersof dune
Lady Jessica is the Baron's daughter!!!
Arrow released a beautiful 4K reprint and it is amazing
Got an ad for dune while watching this. Lmao
"Yesterday is history"
"Tomorrow is mystery"
"Today is gift"
"That why it's called present"😂😂😂❤️❤️👍
“Did you practise that line in the car on your way here?”
@Steve Mitchellson So many times lmao
Looks like I have some reading to do
The prequel novels written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert go into most if not all of the back stories and in a very satisfactory manner. Including the evolution of the Bene Gesserit and the Mentat schools and the Butlerian jihad
Yea they are “prequel” but the two are open about not having Franks talent and having to create a lot themselves. They even change the main villain at the end of Heritics from face dancers to thinking machines which I think was a mistake.
@Major Problems much of what was written in those prequels was most assuredly fan service. I took it as his attempt to continue his father's legacy maybe I'm being overly generous but I still did enjoy the books at least the first three.
They are a worthwhile reads but it’s very clear that the Ben Gesserit started taking stupid pills once Brian Herbert and Keven J Anderson took over. Frank Herbert writing was so complex with plots within plots within plots all in the name of Missionaria Protectiva.
so like how Christopher tolkien published his father's notes and minor writings as an extended corpus of work?
Nope. The Bene Gesserit already existed at the time of the Butlerian Jihad, which was most definitely NOT a bad Terminator ripoff between humans and cyborgs.
The new one was sooooo good.
"Ahoy, Ted"
- Paul Atreides
I’m sure I’ll know these facts but I’m in.
LITERALLY WHOMST IS WORRIED OF A LYNCHIAN REPEAT???? i've never seen one single video or article saying "boy, i hope this doesn't come off anything like the Lynch version!"
????
I love this dune 2021❤❤❤❤
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There’s nothing about the guild of navigators in the new movie. I find that slightly disappointing, considering that this was well covered in the 84 movie… can anyone imagine why? Can’t remember if the navigators are not mentioned the first book (?)
5:05 wouldve loved to see the 10 hour version he shouldve became the director, we wouldve seen more zendaya and fights
That dune lead the inspiration to the krayt dragon
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3:31 - 4:24 'THE CIRCLE IS COMPLETE, SORT OF'.
The box shot looks much better in the 1984 version.
60% of everything at least is better in '84
It is certainly no secret that Frank Herbert consumed psilocybe mushrooms while writing the first Dune book. Even his son will attest to that.
Well you aren't wrong there's a lot of facts I probably won't know about this because I don't really know about Dune
In an interview Frank Herbert came out and outright said that CHOAM was modeled on OPEC
I agree dark souls is an example of something that lights the fires of our minds
sarlac? what about the astroid space worms in empire strikes back?
Denis Villeneuve Dune is a real masterpiece.
Dune's story is fukkin great and that movie is like the pressure of 165M$ of diarrhea shat all over the Herbert's family tree.
VN should literally be ashamed.
I'm glad the original version is getting a lot more love these days.
There were two camps when it was announced that David Lynch was going to try and pull this off. The purists, and the apologists.
I was, (and still am) an apologist. I apologize for the fact that the purists didn't like it.
I thought it was fantastic. (warts and all)
All Dune fans recognize how complex the material is and how difficult it would be to bring to the big screen. Some of us were just a little bit more tolerant of the creative license taken to get the story across, In 2 plus hours.
It was... and still is an excellent sci fi movie.
[TECHNICAL ANALYSIS]
Still cant figure out if the new version is better than Lynch's in general or some shiny shit, so did kind of a technical analysis of the major parts splitting 10 points between each...
(+ means there's something about it where it should be bumped up, and - something overrated or especially bad and should bump down, so +=cool, -=sucks)
ex1.: paul, ya timi is better and closer to the book, pretty good actor i guess, especially younger, kyle wasn't great but not bad either, but none of them really measure to what paul should be.
ex2.: hornithopter, clearly '21 wins, not even a contest, but they are especially great while '84 was especially a "phonebooth", maybe a cool "phonebooth" but still a "phonebooth".
ex1.: thumper, theres zero arguing for '21 ('84 was solid AF and iconic) and it even looks, feels and sounds like an airbed pump, so -.
Lynch'84 Villeneuve'21
paul 3- 7-
chani 6 4
leto 2 8
jessica 1 9
duncan 1 9
baron 4+ 6
rabban 0 10
gurney 4+ 6
stilgar 0 10+
piter de vries 6+ 4+
yueh 3 7
thufir 6 4
reverend mot 5+ 5
maid 8+ 2
GUILD 8 2
SARDOKAR 1 9
FREMENS 4 6
FREMENS(mystic) 8 2
WORMS 4+ 6
SHEILDS 3+ 7
SPACE TRAVEL 9 1
SPACESHIP 2+ 8
HORNITHOPTER 1- 9+
HARVESTER 3 7
STILLSUIT 6 4
THUMPER 10 0-
the box 7 3
the voice 7 3
mouse 1 9
hand fights 2 8
battles 1 9
worm riding 6+ 4
MUSIC 10 0
THEME 8+ 2+
SOUNDTRACK 3 7+
SFX 7 3
VOICE INTRO 8 2
DECOR INT 9+ 1
DECOR EXT 3 7+
Caladan FEEL 7 3
Arrakis FEEL 5 5
Geidi Prime FEEL 0 10
VISUAL AWE 3+ 7
EMOTIONAL AWE 7 3
MYSTIC FEEL 9 1
REALITY FEEL 2 8+
IMMERSION 7 3
PACING 6 4
PLOT EXPLAIN 7 3-
MEMORABILITY 9 1+
BUDGET 118M 165M
CONCLUSION 242(12+/2-) 258(8+/3-)
(kind of)
Conclusion: ok, overall on paper maybe '21 is better, more faithful to Dune too, but '84 has more "cool touch" and with all that and all that time i was expecting more than pretty much equals and on my side at least on the hypothetical situation where ... then Lynch wins.
@@MuktiLuv Wow that's quite the analysis. I saw the new version just yesterday and liked it a lot. I've read the books and own both the mini series and the original Lynch version on DVD.
At the end of the day I think everyone is in agreement that bringing the story to cinema is a massive undertaking.
Not only because of the awkward way the source material is written, but because of the diversity of issues the reader may resonate to.
The purists desire this story be told exactly the way it's told in the books.
That will never happen no matter how many attempts are made.
After two (now three) iterations it's pretty clear that covering everything is impossible. Whether you prefer the condensed/camp version Lynch told, the expanded more detail oriented version the sci-fi channel told, or the visual spectacle this new one tells...we are all fans of Dune.
I'm just glad this version is good enough to drive new fans back to the source so they can experience this sci-fi expose' on their own and decide which parts are most important to them.
Thanks for sharing your point of view.
@@Unconsciouzone well, i would see it that way...
...we are now in the situation where we took 3 pictures of a sunset (Dune)...
-one taken by a top modern photographer on a top of the line Nikon which was set at 1.2megapixels. (21)
-another taken by a pretty good photographer at 5Megapix, but with a fisher-price camera. (2000)
-and the last one taken by an iconic photographer on acid with an underwater camera at 3Mpx. (84)
and we are arguing which one is the best...
...ultimately the answer is that they are all shit.
cool to look at ok, but still sucks compare to the source.
if that makes sense to you.
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cost of these 3 shots considering inflation... i mean gotta compared oranges with oranges, you could buy a house for 500$ in 1950.
lynch'84 dune2000 VN'21
118M 31M 165M
SET/ CGI COMPUTER/
practicalFX set
all i'll say for sure is that Villeneuve'21 version is the one that frustrate me the most.
It was supposed to be a great DUNE finally.
Thats shiny but NOT Dune... wayyy too much is missing.
im not a purist and realize that it is pretty hard to bring to screen if there's the desire that the story be told exactly the way it's told in the books and thats most likely not even desirable, that would be too long and boring.
Although i would like a version taken at 8mp+ with a great camera by someone logical who knows wtf he's doing and what he's talking about.
we dont need the sunset, only a great picture of it properly done,... now all we got is pixelated AF shit with weird effects layered.
@@MuktiLuv So you are approaching it from the point of view of a filmmaker. Cool.
I'm a musician, and had problems with the Hans Zimmer score of this new one compared to Eno/Toto effort in Lynch's version, so we are on the same page there kinda...
The magic of this particular story (regardless of who's telling it) for me personally, is that it's about our possible future and the consequences of our decisions. A very hard thing to convey on screen given the multitude of high bars a big screen movie has to hurdle
David Lynch's version kinda missed the mark on that front, through no fault of his own because apparently Hollywood forced him to follow the hero's journey trope. but he managed to leave an emotional impression on literally millions of people nonetheless.
It hit a spiritual chord with a lot of people despite it's limitations and flaws
I'm more than willing to give this iteration the same chance, for the same reasons.
I'm impressed so far.
@@Unconsciouzone nha, know fuk-all about film making i'm a sound engineer and musician too...
toto's score was amazing and crazy catchy, and it's part of dune now want it or not, hans should really have expanded on it instead of blasting pacific rims horns every 5 minutes.
Ya, feels there'll be even less meaning in that one... but shooting the data right would have been a start.
im really not impressed so far... disappointed AF.
Failed to mention Dali in the Jodorowsky's version. I can't blame the narratress but what team writes these scripts?
Other fact spice is in the dune universe what oil is in our current days. Dune no travel possible without spice, he would control spice controls the universe. No travel possible without oil. he would hold oil holds the power. Herbert was a genius