Totally agree with this tier. I'm also f2p and I have both on tier S. 🤠👍🏻 And actually i want to say; this both dragons has a Unique powerful combo. And by to many grupal attacks you can deny the Phoenix perks. Just imagine if an heroic has an abilitie to increase the defense arrives to the Game ... 👀
As a veteran of dc this is honestly the most thought out tier list and I completely understand the rankings you place these dragons. HQW is a powerful dragon but he’s pretty much the only quantum dragon that can counter HMK. This is due to the other quantum dragons either having bad primaries and can easily be countered by other legendary dragons. despite this I don’t think quantum wormhole isn’t really as bad as most players think but he’s mid at best. HCT has been dominant in the past but because of the new mythical rarity buffing some cat 10 legends (which includes the air element ones) she becomes more easier to Handle. For instance she’s an easy victim to HMK. Duo parliament, sinful, and air titan are counters due to the former having moves that can stun her and the latter having a shield to counter her skill. And heroics that are air offensive can deal with her. HHP is a victim to any pure dragons and has no primal skills to counter them. Idk why social point didn’t give HVV a shield, it makes sense thematically and it makes his position as the strongest vampire dragon much more true because blood god and sinful literally counters him.
Hqw doesn't share an arena with hmk and that's the only place you'd need a strong counter for it. It's equal to HoT depending on the arena. HCT was never really dominant even at release, awful primary and it's skill is too random. Harpy is decent because pure is pretty much dead right now. Almost no strong dragons or newer ones have pure. It's primary skill is already outdated though. Hvv doesn't have a shield because he's not a corrupted, shields are useless anyways because multi shots are everywhere and it only blocks 1 hit not the entire attack. He's still roughly equal to HCT.
@@legendary8988true but at least it would have helped him against weaker chaos dragons. You legit could throw any chaos dragon with a legendary catagory at him it would still cripple him. Lore wise he really should have a shield. As for HCT I mean that before karma she was dominant because there were not that many dragons with a multi hit skills nor any way to survive hex agony. Plus she has her skill which only wind dragons can survive and has ephixa which gives her an even higher chance of soloing a team. As for HHP you are right considering that legitimately there is only 1 karma dragon with pure.
@@jaidentavira4062 idk why I said HQW is equal to occult, skinned he's one of the best, skinless he's still down there in terms of hvips but slightly better than HOT and maybe HAS, HVE is debatable. Guess I was just exaggerating to make a point. HCT has the extra turn and multishot, but has No Survivors which is a useless shield breaker and the worst non RNG vampire skill. It's too RNG dependent to be relied upon you could get a terrible roll. That in combination with his weak defence puts him in the bottom half of Hvips imo, he'll be lower once the spiked hvip gets released. The Extractors have been mid so far but they'll probably find a way to make it's VIP super op like the other useless VIP families Heroic (plasmas, quantums, Eternals[surprisingly decent in his arenas inspite of having a bad skill skinless]) wouldn't be surprised if he also surpasses HCT but it Could go either way. Don't see any scenario where HCT recovers, too many strong wind dragons in all of his arenas, will likely just get worse. Should've put his RNG skill on legend it would've given him a leach crit in that arena against dragons like HVE, instead he just gets obliterated In wind.
you need 200 orbs of BGV or 101(minimum) BGV orbs+99Mythical Joker Orbs. It's not breedable. But if you complete one of the vampire clan chests(I forgot if it's the 1st clan or 2nd) BGV is free
Pointless tbh, Cosmic Detonation is by far the best. Everything else is pretty much equal it depends on which elements you're in need of and their levels of empowerment
Nice list i feel like the list is also depending on the dragons you have like for me personally i would put HQW about HMK only becuse the wormhole has move that cant be dodged and its increaed damage against karma dragons i also really enjoy the HCT dragon since he has a titans shield and 2 skills that can be very useful. But overally i think your tiering is great considering what dragons you have and dont have on the list and you were non biased on your opinions. Also help that I have a skin on my HQW dragon and am about to get the skin for the new High Whitetail Berserker dragon.
the tier list is ok i only have 2 problems with it xd , 1st is the HNorn , the dragon is good yes and everyone wants it but i always asked my self why? becouse of revival? just use any other revival legendary dragon i dont get why people like him + his skill for dmg are meh , 2nd is high harpy , i think he is A tier becouse of the dmg + heal + if u kill someone with the skill the dmg go to another dragon :)
ll the other revive redemption are cat 9, the difference between a cat 9 with like shadow primary and a cat 11 with dream primary is crazy. Her AOE skill also does 250k at lvl 70, whereas the cat 9 no remorse drags do less that half of that.
So norn is like the other legends, except better stats and also has a really useful second skill. So apart from her being nothing like them, yeah, she's the same
I disagree with two of the dragons you placed in b tier , the high ascended supreme is in no way worthy for that tier. It sacrifices it's health almost always against enemies like if he's put in our team when we are away and that alone makes him easier to kill than occult titan who has a shield to take the first hit for him . The secondary skill of ascended is very very weak compared to most of the dragons in b tier with it being useless sometimes , after sacrifice your dragon is Destined to be killed (that's how much health he would have left) . Now the second is harpy , though godly against vampires who sometimes use leech (i say sometimes because vampires like blood god , hexed , Sinful or any other vampire wont use leech casually like other vips use their skill so harpy's passive skill is useless mostly and for active skill it does so little damage and the heal is so bad compared to the other dragons that can heal. Most of the time that skill won't be even able to do carry damage like divine intervention (with skin) even with her skin so that's what i think . The rest is accurate
Well HAS is good it just needs to be in a situational role for it to work and it dmgs all of your opponents dragons so it’s best to only use it for when HMK, corrupted chaos, blood god comes into play. Actually all the ascended are situational dragons rather than fully offensive dragons due to having healing moves. And having a redemption dragon helps bring it back from death. HHP is specifically for the corrupted dragons and vamps. Pure dragons are the only ones that can harm her critically so keep a titan on your side to at least keep her in the game
I saw your cosmic detonation dragon breeding video and i got four of them in a row later on i got the soccer dragon and the epic one and I'm on 33 level
*Im very confused, the High Grotto Dragon race event just ended but I didn’t get the egg for it nor any of the other dragons in the event. I placed first and was on lap 7, shouldn’t I have gotten all 4 dragons as rewards?!?!*
Hhp at A tier since his skill is not a leach but a separate damage and heal , other than that I’m pretty sure most people have mostly vampires and not karmas therefore he would come into use a lot + his spill skill would eliminate a dragon with Phoenix perk ( the dragon won’t revive ) he is not a S tier but an A tier at least that’s my only argument for this list other than that pretty sure everything is spot on 👍🏼
This isn't always the case. Not everyone uses vampires and as of the mythical update, these dragons are likely to become less and less used. They're just a pain to get now, and people may end up going for other options because of this going forward
For has the strat is to use his devine sacrifice when he is one hit left to die or/and after phoenix revive. Yes there is a chance that you won't be able to get so low at health and end up dying while trying, also activating it after phoenix is trading is risking him dying as well but if used optimally you can use the divine sacrifice once or twice safety without him dying. Also Hmk should have his own tier, since he is inconsistent and luck based that means he could be An SS tier or a C tier so i think A is fair. But again if used optimally with a healer then its gets more consistent and i could confidently say he is S tier
nah, doesnt deserve A tier, while it does 'counters' vampires and corrupteds, that's about it, i mean yea the elements are pretty good but harpy howl really isnt that good, since it doesnt even heal that much (about 20%) from what ive seen, there are just a lot better heroics
yeah, if we are talking with the skins, then he deserves more than voodoo or wormhole. but it always depends on the opponent, all of them have great use@@quackalakes
It's just the most common example of a multi-hit skill I can think of that even a new player might be familiar with, just named so they know what I'm talking about regarding "multi-hit"
Btw hmk's second skill is not useless , when he's the only one left he heals pretty decently and I've heard that using that skill increases the block rate by some percentage or something so yeah karma is A tier
People i would only give a revive perk and alot of attack perks because karma dragons dont need defense they have 1 job to dodge and do double damage so the revive perk to get an extra chance of absorbing and the attack perks to one hit an opponent they tried to nerf karmas with Quantum dragons but its not working you can probably one shot every dragon with the absorbed hit on the high master karma Dragon with all perks max enhanced 😅😀
Yes thats a good Thing but the new Quantum dragons hitting you guarenteed with 2 Hits so IT doesnt Mather how much HP perks you give the Quantum dragons are really strong so going full Attack makes Sure you one Hit the Quantum dragon@@zanna1166
The advice would be to not use karmas against quantums in general, so this isn't necessary. Just stack phoenix + HP and avoid the fights against quantums if you're using a karma
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Thanks! Personaly agree with you, and YES, KARMAS ARE JUST PAIN😭 Waiting for the video about HVIP with skins!
Totally agree with this tier. I'm also f2p and I have both on tier S. 🤠👍🏻
And actually i want to say; this both dragons has a Unique powerful combo.
And by to many grupal attacks you can deny the Phoenix perks.
Just imagine if an heroic has an abilitie to increase the defense arrives to the Game ... 👀
They should put that ability to HOT to buff it
GUARD HVIP WILL BE TASTY
As a veteran of dc this is honestly the most thought out tier list and I completely understand the rankings you place these dragons. HQW is a powerful dragon but he’s pretty much the only quantum dragon that can counter HMK. This is due to the other quantum dragons either having bad primaries and can easily be countered by other legendary dragons. despite this I don’t think quantum wormhole isn’t really as bad as most players think but he’s mid at best. HCT has been dominant in the past but because of the new mythical rarity buffing some cat 10 legends (which includes the air element ones) she becomes more easier to Handle. For instance she’s an easy victim to HMK. Duo parliament, sinful, and air titan are counters due to the former having moves that can stun her and the latter having a shield to counter her skill. And heroics that are air offensive can deal with her. HHP is a victim to any pure dragons and has no primal skills to counter them. Idk why social point didn’t give HVV a shield, it makes sense thematically and it makes his position as the strongest vampire dragon much more true because blood god and sinful literally counters him.
Hqw doesn't share an arena with hmk and that's the only place you'd need a strong counter for it. It's equal to HoT depending on the arena.
HCT was never really dominant even at release, awful primary and it's skill is too random.
Harpy is decent because pure is pretty much dead right now. Almost no strong dragons or newer ones have pure. It's primary skill is already outdated though.
Hvv doesn't have a shield because he's not a corrupted, shields are useless anyways because multi shots are everywhere and it only blocks 1 hit not the entire attack. He's still roughly equal to HCT.
Also even with a shield hvv would still be inferior to bgv and maybe sinful
@@legendary8988true but at least it would have helped him against weaker chaos dragons. You legit could throw any chaos dragon with a legendary catagory at him it would still cripple him. Lore wise he really should have a shield. As for HCT I mean that before karma she was dominant because there were not that many dragons with a multi hit skills nor any way to survive hex agony. Plus she has her skill which only wind dragons can survive and has ephixa which gives her an even higher chance of soloing a team. As for HHP you are right considering that legitimately there is only 1 karma dragon with pure.
@@jaidentavira4062 idk why I said HQW is equal to occult, skinned he's one of the best, skinless he's still down there in terms of hvips but slightly better than HOT and maybe HAS, HVE is debatable. Guess I was just exaggerating to make a point.
HCT has the extra turn and multishot, but has No Survivors which is a useless shield breaker and the worst non RNG vampire skill. It's too RNG dependent to be relied upon you could get a terrible roll. That in combination with his weak defence puts him in the bottom half of Hvips imo, he'll be lower once the spiked hvip gets released. The Extractors have been mid so far but they'll probably find a way to make it's VIP super op like the other useless VIP families Heroic (plasmas, quantums, Eternals[surprisingly decent in his arenas inspite of having a bad skill skinless]) wouldn't be surprised if he also surpasses HCT but it Could go either way.
Don't see any scenario where HCT recovers, too many strong wind dragons in all of his arenas, will likely just get worse. Should've put his RNG skill on legend it would've given him a leach crit in that arena against dragons like HVE, instead he just gets obliterated In wind.
nice teir list, i would agree
high whitetip is probally also gonna in the b tier
better than occult but not as good as high voodoo
Norns ni remorse plus actually stacks the damage if there is only 1 opponent left alive
Can i ask how do you get god blood because its my dream dragon
you need 200 orbs of BGV or 101(minimum) BGV orbs+99Mythical Joker Orbs. It's not breedable. But if you complete one of the vampire clan chests(I forgot if it's the 1st clan or 2nd) BGV is free
I love the tierlist but these dragons are really hard to get :((
But I got lucky and got high master karma dragon for free and it’s POWERFUL!!
Can you make a video about every breedable legendary rarity dragons
Cosmic deto on top
They're mainly useful just due to how easy they are to get. Any dragon at e5 can be used if it's a high enough category or has a skill
@@quackalakes do you have a clan so I can join
@@Scarrs9064 Full rn
Pointless tbh, Cosmic Detonation is by far the best. Everything else is pretty much equal it depends on which elements you're in need of and their levels of empowerment
Lets go been waiting for this list
I HATE High Master Karma because of Karma Revenge and my teams especially weak to Karma Yin
great video i like it. can you do a lvip and mvip family ranking?
I've done one previously for legends
Nice list i feel like the list is also depending on the dragons you have like for me personally i would put HQW about HMK only becuse the wormhole has move that cant be dodged and its increaed damage against karma dragons i also really enjoy the HCT dragon since he has a titans shield and 2 skills that can be very useful. But overally i think your tiering is great considering what dragons you have and dont have on the list and you were non biased on your opinions. Also help that I have a skin on my HQW dragon and am about to get the skin for the new High Whitetail Berserker dragon.
Also I've only been playing this game since January and it's been my favorite mobile game I'm very dedicated to it.
Appreciate the content!
she put has in the right place
Lycanroc here 👋
love your videos you helped me to get my first heroic dragon
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the tier list is ok i only have 2 problems with it xd , 1st is the HNorn , the dragon is good yes and everyone wants it but i always asked my self why? becouse of revival? just use any other revival legendary dragon i dont get why people like him + his skill for dmg are meh , 2nd is high harpy , i think he is A tier becouse of the dmg + heal + if u kill someone with the skill the dmg go to another dragon :)
ll the other revive redemption are cat 9, the difference between a cat 9 with like shadow primary and a cat 11 with dream primary is crazy. Her AOE skill also does 250k at lvl 70, whereas the cat 9 no remorse drags do less that half of that.
So norn is like the other legends, except better stats and also has a really useful second skill. So apart from her being nothing like them, yeah, she's the same
I have HOT,HCT and HAD
I have haj hhp hct 335 orbs of hqw
Can you give hqw for hct?@@khanajmatullah2410
Please game bring back the vampire dragon skin please
Hows the high drowsy dragon? Should i summon it with 25 orbs
I disagree with two of the dragons you placed in b tier , the high ascended supreme is in no way worthy for that tier. It sacrifices it's health almost always against enemies like if he's put in our team when we are away and that alone makes him easier to kill than occult titan who has a shield to take the first hit for him . The secondary skill of ascended is very very weak compared to most of the dragons in b tier with it being useless sometimes , after sacrifice your dragon is Destined to be killed (that's how much health he would have left) . Now the second is harpy , though godly against vampires who sometimes use leech (i say sometimes because vampires like blood god , hexed , Sinful or any other vampire wont use leech casually like other vips use their skill so harpy's passive skill is useless mostly and for active skill it does so little damage and the heal is so bad compared to the other dragons that can heal. Most of the time that skill won't be even able to do carry damage like divine intervention (with skin) even with her skin so that's what i think . The rest is accurate
Well HAS is good it just needs to be in a situational role for it to work and it dmgs all of your opponents dragons so it’s best to only use it for when HMK, corrupted chaos, blood god comes into play. Actually all the ascended are situational dragons rather than fully offensive dragons due to having healing moves. And having a redemption dragon helps bring it back from death. HHP is specifically for the corrupted dragons and vamps. Pure dragons are the only ones that can harm her critically so keep a titan on your side to at least keep her in the game
The more the experience the stronger any vip
That's not how that works. We're assuming the person is using them all properly
Please make this content again with HVIP full skin
What's the best legendary in the game?
Walking dead dragons
@@zion57fit I can't find the dragon
by TWD they mean dragons such as negan, michonne, maggie etc
Badriguards aswell and redemptions
@@quackalakes ok
I saw your cosmic detonation dragon breeding video and i got four of them in a row later on i got the soccer dragon and the epic one and I'm on 33 level
*Im very confused, the High Grotto Dragon race event just ended but I didn’t get the egg for it nor any of the other dragons in the event. I placed first and was on lap 7, shouldn’t I have gotten all 4 dragons as rewards?!?!*
check in the storage. (down left of ur screen)
reload the game multiple times.
@@diserge1890 it’s still not there😭 I hope it’s just a glitch or something
Go to news
@@peppyii9768 oh yea ur right check the news bar the heroic results or something should be there
Legendary and mythical tier list
just imagine 3v3 norn battle
quacks could you make a video with skins tier list
I feel like people don't realize how op the hqwh is
He's bad
This list is mid but HQT skinless is nothing special. Better than HOT, HAS and MAYBE HVE and HCT but worse than HHP, HMK and everything higher up
I have a three star quantum wormhole and I using it to counter karma
Yes but you have to wait 2 turns he has 2 skills
Can you make a tier list for normal heroic or titan and vampires
I made a vip tierlist some time ago, but regular heroics are all about the same
LOOK AT THE NAMES!!
yessir
@@quackalakes yessir
Do a skin dra
I dont use them, so I cant
But high worm hole elements can critically hit norm and karma.
But they don't share any arenas
🎉❤love your videos 🎉❤
need 5 more orbs to summon hhp
What does hvip mean
what are the uses of hmk skins the all seeing hero and villain
HMK has some useless skins, but you can see what all of them do here: dragon-city-competitive-list.fandom.com/wiki/Heroic_Skill_Skins_Information
@@quackalakes Thanks, so i guess these 2k gems skins are absolutely useless. You just saved me tons of gems
Okay I was about to scream why hrn in c because the you know what the first picture is
High quantum wormholl and high corrupted time look exactly the same so why is corrupted time in c and quantum wormholl in s🤔
Theyre not even remotely similar
You are right but they're designs are pretty similar
Please do a tier list of HVIP Collection Skins. There are times that the buff of them are pretty much not do much, and others are too overpowered.
Hhp at A tier since his skill is not a leach but a separate damage and heal , other than that I’m pretty sure most people have mostly vampires and not karmas therefore he would come into use a lot + his spill skill would eliminate a dragon with Phoenix perk ( the dragon won’t revive ) he is not a S tier but an A tier at least that’s my only argument for this list other than that pretty sure everything is spot on 👍🏼
This isn't always the case. Not everyone uses vampires and as of the mythical update, these dragons are likely to become less and less used. They're just a pain to get now, and people may end up going for other options because of this going forward
I got glutinous from An advert it's easy
Put HMK in C with Titan😂😂😂
Sometimes he might feel like that, but one block alone can fuck you over sometimes
@@quackalakes yeah
For has the strat is to use his devine sacrifice when he is one hit left to die or/and after phoenix revive. Yes there is a chance that you won't be able to get so low at health and end up dying while trying, also activating it after phoenix is trading is risking him dying as well but if used optimally you can use the divine sacrifice once or twice safety without him dying. Also Hmk should have his own tier, since he is inconsistent and luck based that means he could be An SS tier or a C tier so i think A is fair. But again if used optimally with a healer then its gets more consistent and i could confidently say he is S tier
I have wormhole and he sucks for a heoric vip
Suicide rates after this vid📈📈📈📈 no hate btw
frfr
many drag depend on skins
But F2P you only face others with same skins or no skins as you
been using harpy boy for some time now, he is really really underrated. would put him a for sure
note: also maybe because of the skins i got*
nah, doesnt deserve A tier, while it does 'counters' vampires and corrupteds, that's about it, i mean yea the elements are pretty good but harpy howl really isnt that good, since it doesnt even heal that much (about 20%) from what ive seen, there are just a lot better heroics
I think that vampires will become less common over time now because of mythical update, so I can't put harpy in A tier skinless in good conscience
20%?? nahh, i got it maxed level 61 and it does 130k damage and heals 100-120k life@@alex01ftw15
yeah, if we are talking with the skins, then he deserves more than voodoo or wormhole. but it always depends on the opponent, all of them have great use@@quackalakes
I think that hmk is best
Ur wrong and right
Can someone tell me, why I can’t open my gem island or offerwall in my pc? 😢
Doesn't work on PC at all
I wanna see quackalakes do a legendary dragon rescue just to see all of her best dragons
I can 1 cycle legendary rescues
i can trade high vodoo vampire will you trade?
No, I have hvv
wanna empower it then@@quackalakes
🎉❤All skin are good IAM level 23 in Dragon City 🎉❤
Quackalakes please make a new video of like this new easter event and how to get many points in the leaderboard please Quackalakes.
Miss DML
Hexed agony doesn't even break his shield because he is dark
It's just the most common example of a multi-hit skill I can think of that even a new player might be familiar with, just named so they know what I'm talking about regarding "multi-hit"
2:26 I got 10 orbs for her just 490 orbs to go
Oh lol 😂
kek
Hey does anyone have guard dragon orbs?
Btw hmk's second skill is not useless , when he's the only one left he heals pretty decently and I've heard that using that skill increases the block rate by some percentage or something so yeah karma is A tier
People i would only give a revive perk and alot of attack perks because karma dragons dont need defense they have 1 job to dodge and do double damage so the revive perk to get an extra chance of absorbing and the attack perks to one hit an opponent they tried to nerf karmas with Quantum dragons but its not working you can probably one shot every dragon with the absorbed hit on the high master karma Dragon with all perks max enhanced 😅😀
Phnx hp still way to go more HP more chances of blocking
Yes thats a good Thing but the new Quantum dragons hitting you guarenteed with 2 Hits so IT doesnt Mather how much HP perks you give the Quantum dragons are really strong so going full Attack makes Sure you one Hit the Quantum dragon@@zanna1166
The advice would be to not use karmas against quantums in general, so this isn't necessary. Just stack phoenix + HP and avoid the fights against quantums if you're using a karma
@@quackalakes i agree
hmk is the best s teir he can block so many attack like 5 attack in a row
except when he doesnt
There's sometimes he can't block the attack if you don't use him properly.
Me first