Glorious Gloster's Last Stand - The Battle of Imjin River - Korean War

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  • @지구인-h3c
    @지구인-h3c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    We, citizens of South Korea always remember that the present freedom is possible thanks to their bravery.

    • @indiana146
      @indiana146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My pal fought at imjin river he said there were thousands ove Chinese he said we never gave in

    • @a05odst62
      @a05odst62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Thankyou for respecting our Soldier, from the UK

    • @peterhkpcr951
      @peterhkpcr951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Surprised to see the Chinese PLA without Air force and Navy at that time could beat the most powerful army at that time the USA and UN force of more than 20 nations combined together!! Nobody can deny the fact that the PLA is so mighty and brave to defend itself when just established less than a year from 1949 october before the K war!!!

    • @eldictator1
      @eldictator1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Massive troop numbers, home advantage

    • @genechengdai7714
      @genechengdai7714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eldictator1 Also 4 years of civil war yield high morale and effecient command system. The PLA had all its greatest generals at tha time, and many soldiers had fought more than 10 years of gruesome fighting sometimes with zero supplies, they were more orderly and hardy than the VietCon, it is not surprising USA can't win.

  • @ciren121
    @ciren121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    My uncle was a Gloster at Imjin and was taken as a POW where he endured two years of hell. In 1985 I joined the Regiment where I served for 19 years, and was lucky enough to be selected to visit Korea and Gloster hill on the occasion of the 50th anniversary. It was an honour and a privilege to be there with guys who had fought alongside my uncle.

    • @florianwoo9937
      @florianwoo9937 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      two years of hell? can u describe in detail plz?

    • @jimjacobs1787
      @jimjacobs1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Des, was your uncle 14968648 L/Cpl F Moore or 22317475 Pte P Moore, both of whom were taken prisoner on the Imjin?

    • @ciren121
      @ciren121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimjacobs1787 Hi my uncle was on my mothers side..L/cpl Jim Birt.. dont know his service number sorry.

    • @jimjacobs1787
      @jimjacobs1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Des, was your uncle 14968648 Lance Corporal F Moore, or 22317475 Private P Moore, both captured in the Imjin River Battle?

  • @rkrkfkdlqm
    @rkrkfkdlqm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Thanks for your grandfather's service and those young lives that sacrificed for my country South Korea. We will never forget you. From Seoul.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for the great comment! Its amazing to hear your kind words. Thank you.

    • @lwilkins9115
      @lwilkins9115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thankyou for your kind words, I'm so proud of him :)

  • @dohsoft
    @dohsoft 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As a citizen of Gloucester (born and breed) I can say we are massively proud of everything the Regiment has achieved in it's history but Imjin river is particularly outstanding. If you ever visit the cathedral here you can see a small stone cross the Colonel Carne carved as a POW in Korean.

  • @keighlancoe5933
    @keighlancoe5933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    You hear a great deal about the Black Watch, the Parachute Regiment, The Royal Marines etc; but for me the Gloster's is one of Britain's most fierce and reputable regiments, but they're pretty unsung.

    • @darrengleeson9336
      @darrengleeson9336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Neither King's or Queens or Royal Marines
      But the 28th old brags
      Brass before brass behind
      Never feared a foe of any kind
      Shoulder Arms

  • @barryupjohn8258
    @barryupjohn8258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thanks for posting this. My father, Cpl. Frank Upjohn, was with the Gloucester Regiment at Imjim. He was captured and interned till his release in 1953. He is mentioned in the book “ No Rice for Rebels” and can be seen being interviewed by Pathe, at Southampton on his return. I’m the one in the school cap to his left. It was probably 6 months after the battle that my mum found out he was still alive. Harrowing times. Sadly both parents have now passed on. Thanks again.

    • @JC-nc8hu
      @JC-nc8hu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did Chinese treat him in prison camp ?

    • @barryupjohn8258
      @barryupjohn8258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JC-nc8hu Not well, he spent time in boxes in the ground, made to stand to attention for many hours at a time. He was assaulted with a crow bar when he refused to remove a “rosette” he was wearing to celebrate the coronation of Elizabeth 2. The book ,if you can find a copy tells the story really well. Another book about the prison camp is “No Mercy, No Leniency” also tells what the prisoners experienced , again the book is out of print, but copies can be found. A book called “To the Last Round” written about ten years ago, tells about the actual battle and is a great read. Good luck, stay safe.

    • @barryupjohn8258
      @barryupjohn8258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here’s a link to the Pathe news reel I mentioned in my first post: th-cam.com/video/UX6wNOfDxiA/w-d-xo.html

    • @JC-nc8hu
      @JC-nc8hu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barryupjohn8258 Thx mate

    • @Slymo11
      @Slymo11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your dad was a hero in every sense, the courage and bravery of those men is beyond words. I'm from Gloucestershire and even though I've never done military service I'm so proud of our glorious glosters. Never forgotten.

  • @thomaslawson8394
    @thomaslawson8394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    History has shown that you should never underestimate England.
    England never yields.
    Respect from America.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Lovely comment this! Thanks!

    • @timmo491
      @timmo491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Cheers mate all the best from England!

    • @pickupthatcan9696
      @pickupthatcan9696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Don't you mean Britain?

    • @freshprinceofberwick9183
      @freshprinceofberwick9183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧🇺🇸

    • @RockApe_
      @RockApe_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@pickupthatcan9696 lol typical English leaving out the Scots, Irish and Welsh boys

  • @nicksykes4575
    @nicksykes4575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A guy I used to work with was a despatch rider in Korea, he ended up fighting alongside the Glosters at the Imjin River. He was captured and spent many Months in a North Korean prison camp. When he got back to the UK he found out he,d been listed as KIA, and his wife had remarried! He showed me the bayonet scars on his chest and back from his time as a Pow once!!! He refused to buy a Korean or Japanese car ever. He was a lovely guy, so soft spoken, but you would never want to upset him! Once saw him lay out two guys before anyone else moved, and he had to jump down into a trench to do so!

  • @ad-dajjal7133
    @ad-dajjal7133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My great uncle was in the Gloster's, he served in both WW2 and Korea he was a very brave guy.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amazing, i’d love to hear more of his story! My Grandfather was in Korea too.

    • @ad-dajjal7133
      @ad-dajjal7133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you google Eric Bernard Korean War his funeral notice comes up and has quite a lot in it, I know he did want to write a book with my father before he passed away.

    • @ad-dajjal7133
      @ad-dajjal7133 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, he was in the Hampshire regiment.

    • @allanhawkes5946
      @allanhawkes5946 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ad-Dajjal: My dad was in the 170th Independent Mortar Battery, who supported the Glosters. See my posting

    • @pennyburton163
      @pennyburton163 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allanhawkes5946 Im just writing a book on 170, Id love to hear from you. penny@pennyguides.co.uk

  • @jeanettehaines6443
    @jeanettehaines6443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My dad fought at imjin with the glosters, he died recently, but told many stories of the heroic men that fought with him, he held such admiration for the Korean people he fought for he said they were brave proud people

    • @lloydwaycott8178
      @lloydwaycott8178 ปีที่แล้ว

      My father is still with us I'm glad to say, Pte Anthony Waycott. What was your fathers name Jeanette?

  • @jaj5532
    @jaj5532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My father and his two brothers served in the Korean War. Regretabbly my uncle Dennis (Jones) was killed on Gloucester Hill on 24 April 1951 whilst serving with the Glocester Regirment. The impact of his death on my extended family since then has been quite profound with many relatives now also named Dennis. There is no known grave for him but he is remembered on the Gloucester memorial and now also here. RIP

    • @kieranjones4613
      @kieranjones4613 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My name is Kieran, my grandad was Norman jones. His brother (uncle Dennis) was killed on Gloucester Hill, is your dad bernard?!

    • @jaj5532
      @jaj5532 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kieranjones4613 Hi Kieran, yes he was. So you must be David's son? Pleased to hear from you and say hi to your dad for me.

    • @kieranjones4613
      @kieranjones4613 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaj5532 That’s right!
      ‘Uncle Bernard’ comes up
      In conversation regularly, and we’ve spoken about you all often. Do you have an email address I could contact you with?

  • @brianallsopp69
    @brianallsopp69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My dad joined the army in 53 so missed out on Korea but served in Malaya 58 and Aden 64/66 there really should be more recognition for these so called "Forgotten Wars" and the brave lads that got sent out to these far away places 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧👍

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amazing comment! I think I may have to look at a few more of these forgotten conflicts, they definitely deserve remembering. Thanks again mate.

  • @glosfishgb6267
    @glosfishgb6267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    One of histories greatest military blunders you dont attack 700 Glosters with only 10 thousand men

    • @musicmasterplayer4532
      @musicmasterplayer4532 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The very same day at Kapyong the Chinese attacked the 700 men of 2 PPCLI with 20,000 men, but the 2 PPCLI were fortunate to get help from artillery support directed on their own positions and held on to win.

  • @FHAhab
    @FHAhab 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    my grandfather fought in this battle, a ww2 veteran reservist.
    he was wounded and captured when they ran out of ammunition, and spent 3 years as a prisoner of war.

    • @jimjacobs1787
      @jimjacobs1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which unit did your grandfather serve with in Korea.

    • @FHAhab
      @FHAhab 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimjacobs1787 he was with the hussars

    • @jimjacobs1787
      @jimjacobs1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your grandfather would have had a bad time, what was his surname?

    • @FHAhab
      @FHAhab 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimjacobs1787 dooley

    • @jimjacobs1787
      @jimjacobs1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      410960 Trooper R Dooley taken prisoner on 3 January 1951.

  • @europa1387
    @europa1387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    They did the UK proud. RIP lads.

  • @nadilbhagaloo7503
    @nadilbhagaloo7503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This needs to be taught in schools

    • @brianbell8004
      @brianbell8004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A.great.regiment...1.glosters.

    • @JR-ez3zd
      @JR-ez3zd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let's hope that there isn't an "Oh Let's not offended the Chinese"!

    • @Emilechen
      @Emilechen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JR-ez3zd Chineses are not offended, since British l'ost ans China has taken the revenge for the Opium war,

  • @harryross9377
    @harryross9377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My Great Grandfather was Col JP Carne, we are very proud of what he did during the war.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's great to hear mate. He certainly was a heroic soldier.

    • @Slymo11
      @Slymo11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can understand why you're justifiably very proud. Unbelievably brave man as they all were who fought in that battle. He won the VC didn't he? Do you mind me asking how he managed after the war and what civilian life was like for him?

  • @mindcheck2010
    @mindcheck2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My grandad Albert Lambert was a Gloster and fought in this battle. He was one of the few Glosters to make it down from that hill. With a gunshot wound to his back he made his way down, he was rescued by an American tank after he dived in front of its path. He woke up a few days later in hospital with a Purple Heart award waiting for him (thinking he was American) however as soon as they heard his thick British accent they took it away! Think it was replaced with an US presidential Citation which was awarded too the 1st Battalion Gloucestershire Regiment.

  • @anthonybradshaw3318
    @anthonybradshaw3318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You missed the 26th field ambulance RAMC who my late father served with, both on the Pusan perimeter and the battle of the Imjin river. He described the hills being covered by dead bodies, he said it looked like something from World War 1

  • @redr1150r
    @redr1150r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was born on April 24, 1951. My Father was in Korea at the time and was in a position to hear the fighting during this battle.

  • @iananderson1848
    @iananderson1848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A fantastic story . One I have never heard . Incredible effort . Our post WW2 military history has Battle of Long Tan rubber plantation in Vietnam as own. 120 guys in 4 X platoons facing a regular army Nth Viet regiment . Aussie Qld

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really is an amazing story! I’ll have to have a look at that story mate! Thanks for the comment :)

    • @iananderson1848
      @iananderson1848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The battle of Long Tan had several interesting post battle points. 1. The semi auto only rifles restricted the heavy use of full auto out of fear which conserved ammo for a time . No burst 3 rd control at that time so M16A was full auto empty mag in 3 secs.
      2. The New Zealand 105mm battery saved the day with accurate heavy airburst in the trees very close to Aussie front lines. Still incredible no friendlies were killed or badly injured.
      3. The extraordinary courage of the helo pilots flying at night to dump ammo boxes of 7.62 X 51 from 70ft in the air without killing dudes on the ground .
      4. 70% were 19-20 yr old draftees.
      All did a fabulous job with disciplined aimed fire
      5. There was a 1 metre of mist on the battle area and the Regiment thought in ran into a battalion . If they had of know all platoons would have been rushed and killed ergo the fog of war.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iananderson1848 Sounds like an amazing piece of history mate, i'll definitely have a look into it and find out more! Sounds incredible - Stay tuned for a possible video on it!

    • @thomaslawson8394
      @thomaslawson8394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully soon they will make a movie about Australia in Vietnam.
      These stories need to be told.
      Respect from America.
      God bless Australia and watch over Her.

    • @keithcrispin1368
      @keithcrispin1368 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seen the film Danger close up to then never heard of it . Absolute praise to you Diggers a shame your government took 45 years to recognise their bravery and courage I suppose just like our government shitting on our armed forces. Respect to OZ ...,pommie

  • @braverunner1266
    @braverunner1266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My grandfather also fought in battle of Imjin river, he was a battalion officer of 14th artillery regiment.

    • @braverunner1266
      @braverunner1266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He fought in Korea for about a year from late 1950 to late 1951, he did wrote a memoir and I should start to translate his words in English

    • @jimjacobs1787
      @jimjacobs1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      14th Regiment Royal Artillery did not arrive in Korea until December 1951, the battle was fought in April 1951.

    • @braverunner1266
      @braverunner1266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jimjacobs1787 lol I am Chinese

  • @willpotter8343
    @willpotter8343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for putting this together. Very informative.

  • @wulfrunhaus6233
    @wulfrunhaus6233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Raymond Ford the uncle I never met. So proud of you. R.I.P.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the amazing comment mate. Its very respectful of you to consider your uncle whilst watching this video. Thanks for this, makes me feel good knowing people have personal links to the groups in the videos I make. Your uncle was a hero.

    • @wulfrunhaus6233
      @wulfrunhaus6233 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheUntoldPast Thankyou for making videos like this.

  • @ralphwinfield2872
    @ralphwinfield2872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God bless the Brits!
    Tougher than anybody, eh??
    Father is a Yank; Mum' s British--Nova Scotian. Own mum's dad ended-up in a Jap POW Camp after Singapore; his intestinal injuries caused him to, eventually, pass- on inside his family's home at Kinross, Prince Edward Island, Canada.
    He was my Nana's favourite brother, and Dalhousie University at Halifax could not repair that lovely, brave man.
    God bless you, and take great care!!

  • @jonathanelwen7787
    @jonathanelwen7787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went here today and didn't even know about this. absolutely moving as to the hell not just the glosters had but the fusiliers aswell. This needs spreading and recognising as my father in law educated me on what happened and as I enjoy history I feel embarrassed I knew nothing about it. truly inspirational. shall not forget and I will be spreading what I saw and the story of what happened. (as best I can)

  • @mwnciboo
    @mwnciboo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gloucesters were awesome... HMS Gloucester also had an illustrious history, she is called "The Fighting G" because during WWII she earned 5 battle honours in under a year, she fought in the battle of Crete, and was mortally wounded, of the 800 company about 80 were rescued from the water...Gloucesters of the Army or Royal Navy have a tradition of fighting to the end.

    • @glosfishgb6267
      @glosfishgb6267 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glosters just saying

    • @chrishutton1458
      @chrishutton1458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When the Japanese Rugby team played Kingsholm, early seventies I think, the loudest cheers were for those members of both sides who returned to the game after having blood wiped away and bandages applied.

  • @jiwone6552
    @jiwone6552 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me, who lived nearby as a child, the British Army Battle Park was a great place to play, and soon after I moved to the city, I heard that the Queen of England was visiting there and soon saw it. On the TV news. The courage and pride of the Glostershire troops are still remembered.

  • @jamesorth6460
    @jamesorth6460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My father was in the 23rd RCT and was at the battles of Twin Tunnels and Chipyong-ni Korea in early 1951

  • @winebattle2922
    @winebattle2922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice presentation! I went there about a year ago.It was very hard to get to ,but was worth it.It was in the middle of nowhere.I regret that I didn’t climb to the top,but I had no time.You could probably climb it from the north,the way the Chinese attacked from or maybe even from the south if you ever go there.
    The battlefield is very large.It took an hour to walk to Castle Hill from Gloster Hill and the better part of an hour from Castle Hill to the Imjin River so use a taxi if you can find one.There are South Korean soldiers all over the area.
    My videos of the day on You TUBE are:Glosters at the Imjin 2019 part 1:(Imjin River/Castle Hill )and part 2: (Gloster Hill.)

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the great comment, its great to hear comments for people who have been. I’d love to go and see it

  • @siamsadie
    @siamsadie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Father was a ‘glorious Gloster’ , he was recalled to Korea after WW2. General Slims letter on his discharge along with his medal is in my cupboard

  • @kwonstv8447
    @kwonstv8447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    today I went the hill 235

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh whoah! Did you see the memorial?

    • @kwonstv8447
      @kwonstv8447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheUntoldPast I was memorial park last year and today I was up to the hill 235 I have project about metal detecting ASAP, there still Korean Army trench is all the way to the hill top all over around hill 235. I got some of video for my TH-cam.
      memorial park is down hill beside main road and on the hill 235 has some of evidence from Ministry of National Defense Agency for KIA Recovery & Identification then started search since 2016 ~

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s amazing! I’ll check it out man, that sounds so cool!

  • @dragzgaming
    @dragzgaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Gloucester born and bred

  • @lwilkins9115
    @lwilkins9115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My Grandfather was in the Glorious Glosters too!

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice! Did he talk much about his experiences during the war?

    • @lwilkins9115
      @lwilkins9115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheUntoldPast Sadly he passed away before I was born, but I do know he was one of those taken as POW, but made it home 🙂

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lwilkins9115 That's sad, at least he made it home though following being a POW! Thanks for your comment! :)

    • @lwilkins9115
      @lwilkins9115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheUntoldPast you're welcome :)

    • @allanhawkes5946
      @allanhawkes5946 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      L Wilkins: My dad was in the 170th Independent Mortar Battery, who supported the Glosters. See my posting...

  • @barbaradyson6951
    @barbaradyson6951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    speak to an american about the korean war and he will say it was an american war and that was it. They would have no idea about the brits being there. Never be forgotten, UNFORTUNATELY IT HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My Grandad fought in Korea and still to this day I wonder how he ended up there fighting. Thanks for the comment Barbara :)

    • @DoubleTT94
      @DoubleTT94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I work at a care home where a gentlemen fought in this war , love hearing his stories , he speaks very highly of the glosters, He was only 18 at the.
      time. He kept on saying if it wasnt for pvt speakman they would have died , he said he got awarded by the queen not sure on which award as his memory isn't what it was.

    • @roybennett6330
      @roybennett6330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DoubleTT94 Speakman the warrior who got the v.c

  • @jhkim6874
    @jhkim6874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    remember forever !

  • @Another80sClaire
    @Another80sClaire 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My grandfather was in the 1st Glosters in Korea. He wrote home saying he was headed for the front line. He came home and never really talked about the war. How would I find out which battles he was in? Did all of the1st Glosters go to the two battles mentioned? He was assigned to B Company.

  • @ZolaMagic25
    @ZolaMagic25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video mate. Thanks

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No worries thanks for the comment mate :)

  • @stuhale8125
    @stuhale8125 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good documentary. Just a shame you couldn't get any footage of Glosters or even British troops in general

  • @thomasmanning829
    @thomasmanning829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was unaware of this battle. I should have been told of it or otherwise known. I was an American soldier stationed at Camp Casey Korea. I was assigned to E Company. Combat Engineers. E company was the battalion's Bridge company. In the fall of 1969 we, E company, put a floating pontoon bridge across the Imjin River. We were merely there for practice. In the unlikely event of a new war

  • @Richnineteenseventyone
    @Richnineteenseventyone 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if he was a Glorious Gloster but he lived in Cheltenham. When i was a printer, at the factory we had a short old chap that used to clean and take care of the vending machines. He told me he was in that war and that his unit came under relentless attack but they held firm as countless (chinese i assume ) soldiers were mowed down. So many that enemy soldiers were climbing over the mounds of bodies of their dead and dying collegues to get at the brit soldiers. His unit held firm..... Until the unit started shouting out for ammo. His machine gun was almost out of bullets and the order was given to withdraw or every man for himself. Then the brit soldiers were being shot to pieces as the enemy advanced. Some did get away but not many. The rest were shot and the injured killed and bill his name is or was seen the enemy shooting and killing dead and dying or injured comrades played dead as tbe enemy soldiers took belonging off the dead and got away with it, even though the dead chap next to him was robbed. He waited till the enemy left some hours later and eventually found another unit after walking around in the dark all night. Not word for word but thats all i remember him telling me. It was 16 yrs ago. It got to me as you could see the pain in his eyes bless him.

  • @elverdavin365
    @elverdavin365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Salute to all Veteran of Korean War

  • @fredrickgay1548
    @fredrickgay1548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the nice comment! If you haven’t already subscribe for some more war stories coming this week :) thanks again!

  • @scaleyback217
    @scaleyback217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why is just about every clip in this film of US troops?

  • @ricksouthwick3463
    @ricksouthwick3463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you let me know what music you used for this piece.

  • @britishperson6276
    @britishperson6276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Underrated video

  • @allanhawkes5946
    @allanhawkes5946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My dad fought at the Imjin River. He was part of the 170th Independent Mortar Battery and walked out of the battle without a scratch. He never spoke of his experiences in Korea but he often told me as a child of his exploits in WWII, so I suspect what happened to him wasn't very nice. The Glosters and the 170th were awarded a citation by the US Army for their bravery ( while the Yanks buggered off ), something that had never happened before or happened since. I still have his blue edged gold citation sew on jacket patches along with his WWII and UN Korea Medal. I'd love to find out more about his experiences, but he died in 1993 without letting on to anyone what happened.

    • @lwilkins9115
      @lwilkins9115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just came looking for your comment after you had mentioned it to me, thankyou it gave me some insight from a different angle and would love hear more x

    • @allanhawkes5946
      @allanhawkes5946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lwilkins9115 : Unfortunately, he wouldn't tell anyone about his experiences in Korea - maybe he lost some good friends and it was too painful. I have a copy of the citation, should you want a copy.

    • @allanhawkes5946
      @allanhawkes5946 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lwilkins9115 : Here's the link for the citation www.northeastmedals.co.uk/british_regiment/gloucestershire_regiment_us_presidential_citation.htm. Hope it's helpful!

    • @jimmyhillschin9987
      @jimmyhillschin9987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You shouldn't blame the Americans. The Glosters and other 29th Brigade Forces were holding a wide front with large gaps between the different battalions, enabling the Chinese to infiltrate around them. Korean forces were the left, but 2km away.

    • @allanhawkes5946
      @allanhawkes5946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimjacobs1787 Can you forward the list to me, please? I've no reason to disbelieve him, unfortunately, I can't ask him.

  • @JR-ez3zd
    @JR-ez3zd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is there no movie about this battle!

  • @terrystokley2968
    @terrystokley2968 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No one but the Glosters could have done it. Forever glorious.

  • @edzombie78
    @edzombie78 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wheres the "Things are a bit sticky" misunderstandings conversation 🤔

  • @captainchaos3053
    @captainchaos3053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you not find any footage of British troops

  • @Ingens_Scherz
    @Ingens_Scherz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Korean Rorke's Drift!

  • @jimjacobs4467
    @jimjacobs4467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am sorry, but all the footage purporting to be about the Glosters epic stand on the Imjin River shows only US and ROK troops. I took part in the battle with 170 Independent Mortar Battery. The Americans fought in a different stretch of the Imjin River to our west. In 29 Brigade we did not really stand a chance, about 4,000 of us trying to hold off 27,000 Chinese. On the east of the Glosters with the Royal Ulster Rifles, the Royal Northumberland Fusiliers and the Belgian Battalion we held them off until late on the 25th April when we were ordered to new positions south of the Han River. In holding back the Chinese until they ran out of steam we did all that was expected of us, and we stopped them holding their May Day Parade in Seoul.

    • @bastogne315
      @bastogne315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How old are you dude?

    • @jimjacobs4467
      @jimjacobs4467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was 90 on 8th May. If you have a particular interest in the Korean war from the British aspect, you could do well to read my memoirs, From The Imjin To The Hook, published in 2013. In 2017 it was translated into Chinese where it is widely read by students who want something of the United Nations side of the war.

  • @lemonhazzed
    @lemonhazzed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My old regt - 28LXI will never die

  • @rusler159
    @rusler159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice to see the gloster's getting more exposure they truly were forgotten heroes coming from a gloster myself we truly do make history silently but as they say "dont mess with a gloster as we are fik in the head but fik in the arm"

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love this comment mate!

    • @jimjacobs1787
      @jimjacobs1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would have been nice if the Glosters had been given some exposure. The entire film is of American and ROK troops.

    • @asonofharoldgodwin
      @asonofharoldgodwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but never a mention of the Northumberland fusiliers and the Ulster Rifles and a Belgian battalion who played an equally valiant role in the battle, whose heroics should be as well known as the Glosters !

    • @jimjacobs1787
      @jimjacobs1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Ewan. I could not agree with you more. I was with the Belgian battalion, on the wrong side of the river when the battle started, and quickly surrounded on three sides. We were first to be attacked at 21:20 on 22 April, before the Glosters were attacked. We then made a four day fighting withdrawal on Route 11 with the Fusiliers, and later the Ulster Rifles after they had been sent up to the river to get us out. I am afraid all the glory has always gone to the Glosters, whose commanding officer, being stiff upper lip British, failed to request assistance in time. 621 officers and men went into captivity that day, total casualties in 29 Brigade were 1,078. You ought to read my Korean War memoirs, FROM THE IMJIN TO THE HOOK available from Amazon, or from the publisher Pen and Sword Military. Thank you for mentioning the Fusiliers and the Rifles, and of course the Belgians. We received almost no publicity at the time.

  • @timmo491
    @timmo491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lieutenant is pronounced 'lefftenant' mate.

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comment mate, will take this feedback on board! :)

    • @TheUntoldPast
      @TheUntoldPast  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the comment mate, will take this feedback on board! :)

    • @iananderson1848
      @iananderson1848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Our American friends always had trouble with English hehe. Reality is the world since 45 has become more and more American in language and culture . So be it .

  • @stephenh3919
    @stephenh3919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Respect for your coverage of this extraordinary action, but 80-90% of your footage was of U.S. forces. Why?

  • @asonofharoldgodwin
    @asonofharoldgodwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about the Northumberland fusiliers and the Ulster Rifles 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @philipgutteridge9069
      @philipgutteridge9069 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My father was with the Northumberland Fusiliers in I believe Z Company. I understand from what he told me they were surrounded for 72 hrs. He was wounded during the battle and eventually evacuated to Kure Japan.

    • @asonofharoldgodwin
      @asonofharoldgodwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Glosters take all the credit for the Battle while the Fusiliers and Rifles as well as a Belgian Battalion and the whole 29th infantry brigade barely get a mention despite all playing a equally valiant role !!!
      If you havn't already you should read "To the last round" by Andrew Salmon.

  • @chuckabutty888
    @chuckabutty888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent history but why is most of this footage showing Americans?

    • @samuel10125
      @samuel10125 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because the Americans took alot of Photographs British troops didn't.

  • @WhoDaresWins-B20
    @WhoDaresWins-B20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are you showing footage of US troops and not footage of British/Australian and Belgian Troops. Why have you spelt the name Gloucester's as Glosters. Are you forgetting that included amongst British Troops were The Kings Own Scottish Borderers (KSOB) and The Royal Highland Regiment, The Black Watch and the Third Battalion Royal Australian Regiment plus support regiments (Artillery/Armoured etc). The GLOUCESTER'S fought a magnificent action on that hill, which was previously held by the US troops. The Gloucester's took the hill and gave it back to the yanks who lost it on two separate occasions. I was told by a former member of my Regiment and a Korean veteran that the Gloucester's re-took the hill on a third occasion dressed in US uniforms to keep the morale of US troops up, which is when they were wiped out. RIP my Brothers in arms (Australian Vet)

  • @deniselewis6175
    @deniselewis6175 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Father served with them
    I'm looking for photos of the fifty six that returned on Empress Fowey of Which o Father was onne

  • @genechengdai7714
    @genechengdai7714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Glosters were outnumbered and outmaneuvered by an oppenent of both inferior equipment and intelligence. Never leave your back to General MacArthur, he ran from the Phillipines, after all. My maternal grandfather was a communications officer at the artillery platoon of the 3rd battalion of the 560 regiment of the 187th armed police division, he was later hit in his shoulder in 1952. But thankfully he survived and still heathy this day.

  • @AlexanderJoneshttps
    @AlexanderJoneshttps 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Elderly chap was telling me about this

  • @aidanmagill6769
    @aidanmagill6769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can tell they weren't expecting major conflict. Otherwise the Ulster Rifles would have been ordered to initiate Operation Human Shield.

  • @jaymorris3468
    @jaymorris3468 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, imagine.

  • @simplesimon7154
    @simplesimon7154 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid mate but when talking about British troops I would be nice to British troops and not Americans

  • @geekshow95
    @geekshow95 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is all the footage showing US soldiers

  • @timmo491
    @timmo491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I note the Belgians buggered off as well as the Yanks.

    • @samuel10125
      @samuel10125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently when the British Centurians arrived the yanks were overjoyed because of it ability to climb hills.

    • @jimmyhillschin9987
      @jimmyhillschin9987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Belgians were in the most exposed position at the start of the battle, over the river.

    • @vostokcosomonaut5205
      @vostokcosomonaut5205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Belgians fought bravely holding off a significant portion of the Chinese division until their position was untenable and their lines of retreat were almost overwhelmed.

    • @PeteCourtier
      @PeteCourtier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Turks were also double hard. When the British took over a portion of the line from the Americans, the Turks kept radioing the Brits everyday to see if they were still there. The British commander said “We are not going anywhere” as the Americans kept falling back! Unfortunately the US army did not come out of that war in a good light. The US marines on the other hand were brilliant. Only General Ridgeway put some backbone into the US army after MacArthur was relieved.

    • @timmo491
      @timmo491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimjacobs1787 my old man told me exactly what happened. Keep your memoirs.

  • @Scaleyback317
    @Scaleyback317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I gave up after 3.30 as the film had not shown as much as one British soldier. Very disappointing.

  • @ziggy6848
    @ziggy6848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glosters wearing American uniforms?

  • @cpurssey982
    @cpurssey982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video but it sounds so odd to hear a Brit pronounce "lieutenant" as "lu'tɛnənt" (US) not "lɛfˈtɛnənt" (UK) 😂.

  • @DisobedientSpaceWhale
    @DisobedientSpaceWhale 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate to be that guy, but Seoul is pronounced "soul".

  • @BestOfKillieFc
    @BestOfKillieFc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    “In a bit of a pickle “

  • @wernesgruder1
    @wernesgruder1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to be very honest about history. Remember the Glosters had a lot of reservists who fought thru WW2 and were very reluctant to be called back up. Some went into hiding. Many had started businesses and families after 1945 and were not battle ready. They thought they had done their bit in the World War. Stories of refresher training with Bren guns on the docks before they went on troopships to Korea. Also a lot of very green national service personnel who had had a few months training and no combat experience. Still using the same weapons from the 1930’s. UK was just not ready for the Korean War. It was a US war, plain and simple. UN forces were window dressing

  • @stonynotdusty
    @stonynotdusty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good presentation. It was a horrible war but thanks to those brave men more people have freedoms. Your pronunciation of Seoul is a little funny. I couldn't do better and it doesn't make your presentation any less.

  • @Jeffybonbon
    @Jeffybonbon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Up the Rifles

  • @indiana146
    @indiana146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My pal fought at imjin river he said that after the battle the us 7th cavalry were disbanded for not turning up for battle im trying to find out

    • @freshprinceofberwick9183
      @freshprinceofberwick9183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you find anything?

    • @indiana146
      @indiana146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@freshprinceofberwick9183 its difficult but the guy didnt lie.it was 7th cavalry custers old regiment

    • @freshprinceofberwick9183
      @freshprinceofberwick9183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@indiana146 why didnt they turn up to the battle ?

    • @indiana146
      @indiana146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@freshprinceofberwick9183 im investigating the whole show

    • @freshprinceofberwick9183
      @freshprinceofberwick9183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@indiana146 let me know your conclusion. Seems interesting 😁

  • @stepney56
    @stepney56 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know the story well so it would have been nice to see British soldiers in this film and not American's and South Korean's. Only the last few minutes do we see our boys in their beret's. This is insulting.

  • @swcblad
    @swcblad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gloucester

  • @peterhkpcr951
    @peterhkpcr951 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprised to see the Chinese PLA without Air force and Navy at that time could beat the most powerful army at that time the USA and UN force of more than 20 nations combined together!! Nobody can deny the fact that the PLA is so mighty and brave to defend itself when just established less than a year from 1949 october before the K war!!!

    • @patrickwilson2650
      @patrickwilson2650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Chinese troops were fighting for years against the Japanese and the nationalist Chinese troop. Battle hardened soldiers. They succeed because of mass assaults. Much respect to these troops. But they died for nothing. I believe they didn't know, why they were fighting.

    • @chrishutton1458
      @chrishutton1458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Peter hkpcr How does 300,000 Chinese troops compare to:
      A) the number of UN troops along the Imjin River?
      B) the total number of UN troops in Korea at that time?

  • @roybennett6330
    @roybennett6330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sadly a regiment that no longer exists,due almagaruons,and $$

    • @histyhist7701
      @histyhist7701 ปีที่แล้ว

      we dont use $$ here we use ££

  • @陈南飞
    @陈南飞 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they died for nothing😄

    • @samuel10125
      @samuel10125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lovely profile picture depicts you perfectly.
      They died so a people could remain free.

  • @onlycityboy
    @onlycityboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BS

    • @chrishutton1458
      @chrishutton1458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Commander Victor What an amazing explanation of your viewpoint on this matter.
      I'm sure your book "The History of the World" is equally readable. Just two letters!