Wow...I never designed or made anything! I loved the tour and explanation. I have a greater understanding on what it takes to make this product. Thank you!
Thanks for the tour. I actually know people who have operated and sold similar machines to the ones viewed in your video. I was able to work with a team on an early version of a 3D printer they were using to make architectural models. All amazing stuff! I just got my first ever Goldwing 12/27/19, and am looking forward to getting some of the accessories installed! Thanks for the amazing work Traxxion is doing!
Great information again, I will be buying your grab rails soon, I just spent 3000 dollars on accessories for my 2019 and haven't even ridden it yet. I want it well equipped to start my riding season thanks for the information
I don't think people grasp the amount of time that is needed to design and build something properly, many people are probably under the impression that something like this is either stamped out or built from cheaper products, whereas, building something out of aluminum is quite expensive. As you mentioned, just stepping through the program, and having one error, can cause serious damage. I setup CNC Mills, I have had times where a zero was place in an incorrect area, this happens at such a speed, that the human brain is unable to comprehend the speed at which hundreds or even thousands dollars can be damaged in a machine. I once had a 4" shell mill slam down into a fixture with such force that it complety demolished the shell mill. As you know, that was not a cheap mistake. Keep making good products, it is rare to see machined parts in these times, one thing for sure, a well machined part will last forever.
I bought a pair...look great...work great...worth every penny....only downside for me is the matte black finish seems to scratch easy...unlike the description of the anodizing process....a Goldwing must though...thankyou.
HI! This is actually not uncommon... but what you see is stuff "ON" the surface of the anodizing. It is very very hard, and you can clean off whatever you have stuck to it, even if you have to get very aggressive, say with a scotchbrite pad. You should not be able to hurt that coating.
Traxxion you guys make quality products , your price justify the finish products . Thanks for your time making this video explaining the process . I’m a satisfy customer 👍🏻
Thats really expensive for a grab rail. But Im no that familiar with goldwing aftermarket part prices. Still doing some research before buying my first goldwing.
Great vid, a lot of people have very little idea of the investment to provide goods and services to consumers. I am a maintenance tech in a large machine shop that uses three and five axis milling centers, I appreciate your efforts and I also really like those Haas machines. 👍
They're made in America by Americans. Keep making them Max and will keep buying them. You have created a great manufacturing and Engineering facility. I learned something from every video. You get to attaboys
MX, what tools do you use on the 2018 Honda Goldwing DCT Touring-particularity to add bolt on accessories? I do not want to chance stripping screws, etc...Thanks.
There's too much to list. We use many brands as well. But the handiest tool is a very long 5mm Thandle allen key from Bondus. That's invaluable. It's like 12-14" long. You can get most of the bodywork off with that without scratching the bike ever.
Max McAllister & Traxxion Dynamics Max, Thank you. Is an Allen Key the same as a hex end or a ball end? Also, can I expect a lot of resistance when removing any given screw that has never been removed from original assembly? I appreciate all of your valuable advice!
@@edwardmasannat8228 Yes, Hex key. Do not buy the Ball End one, because it will strip your fasteners out. Any hardware that is difficult to remove is more related to suspension, and is for advanced mechanics in a work shop. You shouldn't run into any of that for normal DIY jobs. Good luck!
Max, YOU Are The BEST! Thank you again for your Professional and Friendly Advice. I truly admire what you’ve managed to build in terms of your successful business. Take Care of Yourself and Happy Holidays, EJM, Downey, CA
Traxxion makes premium parts and stands behind them. As an owner of a GW and buyer of this specific part(s) I can assure you if you're not satisfied with the stock system Honda provides (my passenger was not: It's the equivalent of having a "car door handle" buried under the seat to hold onto) then buy it. If you' don't have any issues with the stock set up...then Don't. I've never felt the need to replace a "hand rail" until this bike. It's a safety issue. But if you want a well designed and engineered product that solves multiple problems for passengers that increases safety and allows for other modifications to be added for the passenger, then this is a solid choice and the COST is not the issue, the value and solving a problem is. I'd venture to guess most of the "that's too expensive chorus" doesn't own a 2018+ Gold Wing. Honda makes a great product. Traxxion Dynamics (and many other aftermarket providers) make it better. IMHO. You get what you pay for in life. I like to tell people if you have a $5 dollar head...buy a $5 helmet, the internet never ceases to amaze me there is a $5 helmet market out there. :) The "market" has spoken and Traxxion has been in business long enough to prove that. Feel free to ask questions if you're interested in more owner experiences/opinions with this product.
Hi James, we actually sold through our first short run very quickly and it caught us off guard! We never like to tell anyone we are "Out of Stock"... so I have both of my mills going 14 hours a day to make the next 100 sets. The purpose of this video was just to give a look at what it takes to make a product like this... most people don't really have any clue or concept. As you can see from the posts here, people really enjoy this type of information.
I was a fitter machinist for 50 years so I have a good idea how long it takes to come up with an idea and make the parts. Some of Max's comments were exaggerated for effect but I still get the gist of what he is trying to get across. Anybody that thinks the grab rails exactly like Max's can be made and sold in the U.S for $200 is mistaken. They could be made cheaper overseas and Max knows that. His idea is out there and there could be an overseas manufacturer working on a cheaper version already.
While I appreciate the video and the extensive explanation, I still think $600 for grab rails are too expensive to buy. As a driver of the motorcycle they are of no use to me, they are more for the passenger but I don't always have a passenger so the expense is much too high. If it was something that impacted my driving then maybe I would consider but it doesn't so therefore I'll either wait for something less expensive or I will just keep what I have cause its really not that big of a deal to me.
It's not possible for someone who doesn't care about the comfort, security, and safety of their passenger to understand why this product would be beneficial. Enjoy the money you don't spend.
@@Traxxion Well I don't feel your hand rails will provide any more comfort, security or safety for my passenger and as for the money, it will be spent in better ways than on hand rails I don't really need. They are not for everyone.
Has anyone considered using UHMW is an ultrahigh molecular Weight Polyethylene or similar molded products with high strength strands in the ultra high strength plastic mix. Similar products exist for engine mounts as well as other services. Highly UV resistant and not easily scuffed. It can be drilled, tapped and one can even drive in a self tapping screw without damage if by common sense rules. Multiple colors available. Very similar to the polypropylene used for cutting boards with reinforced strands added in the mix and much stronger than some steel products. It can eliminate most CNC work. It is not a 3D printer product but a molding process. Makes me realize why the Stealth bomber is not made totally out of high strength aluminum.
No one will ever injection mold parts that are produced in 100pc quantities. The kit would cost $6,000, not $600. In this case, getting the matte finish that matches perfectly would be virtually impossible to do with a molded part. If that process was something viable for production motorcycles, I think you would see plastic subframes and bracketry on motorcycles... but I've never seen that. Exotic composite parts are sourced for Stealth bombers and the like where every gram matters, and price is of no concern to anyone working in the US Government. Goldwing owners scream and cry about paying $27,000 for the world's best motorcycle...
@@Traxxion Makes me wonder why anyone would pay $27K for a bike that has a passenger seat without grab rails. I have to chuckle when I read owners defend Honda when there are so many downgrades on the 2018 models. Maybe the refusal to admit they jumped head first into shallow water. I think one look at the GPS should have been a red light. Honda's mistakes are great profit centers for after market vendors. I would pay more for a new 2017 level 3 than a 2018 however Honda is great for hiding the 2017's in warehouses. I view the American version of the 2018 as an F6-B deluxe with ABS brakes and some info system from last years Harleys. I think buyers will come to their senses when their local service departments work of their can-buss (SP) systems. Drifting off topic but OUCH!
I have no doubt that it cost this much to make them. What if it cost twice that much to make, would that justify charging $1200 for them. Let me know when you have a half off price please!
Actually, yes it would. What is a saddle? It's just a board with some foam and a piece of pleather over the top... they charge $2,000 for that, and there's a line out the door....
I want to thank you for sharing this information. I knew a couple of things; those grab rails looked awesome, and they were solidly built. I have to admit, I was in the, "I'm not paying $600 for grab rails, I'll do without them" camp. (I never said anything to anyone, anywhere, but I thought it.) I think you have changed my mind, at least to the level of, I understand your pricing and agree with you for your reasoning. I really didn't think there was over $350 worth of materials and work in those grab rails, but i can see it now. At $350 to produce, $600 is not insane. I don't think many people appreciate how much it costs to run a business. I suppose there's a bit of liability involved also. I've been looking at them more lately and think they would enhance the ride for my wife and give me a nicer place to strap gear on solo (Wild Hog) runs with the boys. I love your videos, keep 'em coming.
I actually forgot to mention what it costs to pay staff to get all of this done... shipping back and forth to subvendors, etc. I should mention more frequently, we have a money back guarantee. If you bought the rail and your wife didn't think they were useful or made her feel safer, you can just return them for a full refund! Thanks for watching!
they don't make the the heel toe shifter boards for the 2018 Honda Goldwing would be nice if you guys can come up with one Honda only makes a mini boards maybe y'all can design them...
I'm sure that product will be done by a company that makes parts in China like Kuryakyn or ShowChrome/Big Bike Parts. We can't compete against Chinese products unfortunately.
Not rocket science. Small machine shop making specialized parts. The price of aluminum has skyrocketed as well. What gets me is the failure of the motorcycle manufacturer who now seemingly eliminates equipment once deemed standard. Passenger grab rails should be standard equipment in my opinion.
Thankyou for getting back...i will try to remove the "scratches"....they look silvery...probably from rubbing against its mate when i had them assembled in a box waiting for the dealer to install.
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to explain and show off the process. Really cool! I’d totally buy these if I had $600! Looks like a great product!
Uneducated comment. If an item doesn’t sell because of pricing, that has ZERO to do with the cost of producing within a given volume of production. Product may not sale do to price, but that’s a different discussion. His cost are his cost.
John Martins exactly. The trick is to determine if you can produce a marketable (sellable) product with a cost structure based on levels of volume that produces profit.
Why not sub it out. Lots of CNC shops. You could make investment cast and sub that out too. Also you could build steel skeleton and injection mold it subbed out too.
I think it looks pretty good but the extension looks like a piece of uni-strut. Also, I think I know why the larger rarer black anodized luggage rack I had for an F6b is hard to find. They probably lost their ass
Thanks, Max - Very informative. :) Your explanation may increase sales for these grab handles AND your other products. :) dan in sonora, california p.s. - I, too, have a 2018 Honda Goldwing Tour DCT. :)
Hello Max, great video with shop tour, however, you forgot to mention your time and cost to make the video and explain why quality is not cheap and why it takes money to make money. People should also remember your time in thinking about these design modifications and putting them down on napkins. Keep up the great work and never lower your standards. I will continue to buy your products that will benefit or enhance my riding experience as my budget permits. Cheers.
Most of the time I keep my big mouth shut... this isn't one of those times. With all due respect to Max... he's spot on when he reveals the cost associated with a vertically integrated design and manufacturing business model, quality machine tools aren't cheap as well as the human resources to utilize them effectively, however... There's more than one way to skin a cat. If someone wanted to go the same route as Matt, i.e. CNC machining multiple components from billet, you definitely don't need a million dollar facility to do it. There are many many one stop shop vendors that will mill, finish, anodize, and package your product for you and while you may incur additional costs, you also don't have the over head so it's pretty much a wash. Could the parts be cast aluminum, powder coated and look and function just as nice as CNC'd parts... Sure. Do molds cost you more up front? Yup... they do but the production cost is in the 10's of dollars per unit, actually much less than the cost of the raw billet material alone. Can you design products like this yourself? Yes, grab a free copy of Fusion 360. With a little practice and some research, you can model the design, analyze it using the free FEA functionality or even use the included AI driven generative design module to create a lighter and stronger component with only a few inputs. Want to make a 3D prototype? Sure... just shell out 500 bucks for an FDM printer or farm it out to one of the many prototypers out there. But... if you're not willing to go the extra mile and put in the work... Max is offering you a very high quality and well thought out accessory that will last as long as your bike and In the end... you're getting a made in America by American's product. Something to consider before going into sticker shock. Hat's off to Matt for stepping up and being one of the few that offer quality accessories and services because without guys like him... there would be none. FWIW... I'm a 35 year design engineering veteran with over 20 US patents. Keep up the good work Matt!
Yes, they're like reaching under the seat and they are about the size of a flush door handle. I have a set on my bike and as far as the wife is concerned they are Necessary and worth the price of admission.
Tour Trunk Kit is back from CNC Programming. We are running grab rails and as soon as a mill opens up we will start on them! I suspect ready for sale in 30 days, maybe less.
Great job Max and to your team. You guys are true craftsmen and make a high quality product. This product is not just cheap crap from communist china. Keep up the great work!
Wow...I never designed or made anything! I loved the tour and explanation. I have a greater understanding on what it takes to make this product. Thank you!
We'll bring you more like this soon.
Thanks for the tour. I actually know people who have operated and sold similar machines to the ones viewed in your video. I was able to work with a team on an early version of a 3D printer they were using to make architectural models. All amazing stuff! I just got my first ever Goldwing 12/27/19, and am looking forward to getting some of the accessories installed! Thanks for the amazing work Traxxion is doing!
Thank you!
Great information again, I will be buying your grab rails soon, I just spent 3000 dollars on accessories for my 2019 and haven't even ridden it yet. I want it well equipped to start my riding season thanks for the information
I don't think people grasp the amount of time that is needed to design and build something properly, many people are probably under the impression that something like this is either stamped out or built from cheaper products, whereas, building something out of aluminum is quite expensive. As you mentioned, just stepping through the program, and having one error, can cause serious damage. I setup CNC Mills, I have had times where a zero was place in an incorrect area, this happens at such a speed, that the human brain is unable to comprehend the speed at which hundreds or even thousands dollars can be damaged in a machine. I once had a 4" shell mill slam down into a fixture with such force that it complety demolished the shell mill. As you know, that was not a cheap mistake. Keep making good products, it is rare to see machined parts in these times, one thing for sure, a well machined part will last forever.
Things add up fast when crashes happen in the machine world! A lot of danger there too!
I bought a pair...look great...work great...worth every penny....only downside for me is the matte black finish seems to scratch easy...unlike the description of the anodizing process....a Goldwing must though...thankyou.
HI! This is actually not uncommon... but what you see is stuff "ON" the surface of the anodizing. It is very very hard, and you can clean off whatever you have stuck to it, even if you have to get very aggressive, say with a scotchbrite pad. You should not be able to hurt that coating.
Traxxion you guys make quality products , your price justify the finish products . Thanks for your time making this video explaining the process . I’m a satisfy customer 👍🏻
Thats really expensive for a grab rail. But Im no that familiar with goldwing aftermarket part prices. Still doing some research before buying my first goldwing.
Great vid, a lot of people have very little idea of the investment to provide goods and services to consumers. I am a maintenance tech in a large machine shop that uses three and five axis milling centers, I appreciate your efforts and I also really like those Haas machines. 👍
Thank you!!
They're made in America by Americans. Keep making them Max and will keep buying them. You have created a great manufacturing and Engineering facility. I learned something from every video. You get to attaboys
Thanks again, Cap'n.
MX, what tools do you use on the 2018 Honda Goldwing DCT Touring-particularity to add bolt on accessories? I do not want to chance stripping screws, etc...Thanks.
There's too much to list. We use many brands as well. But the handiest tool is a very long 5mm Thandle allen key from Bondus. That's invaluable. It's like 12-14" long. You can get most of the bodywork off with that without scratching the bike ever.
Max McAllister & Traxxion Dynamics Max, Thank you. Is an Allen Key the same as a hex end or a ball end? Also, can I expect a lot of resistance when removing any given screw that has never been removed from original assembly? I appreciate all of your valuable advice!
@@edwardmasannat8228 Yes, Hex key. Do not buy the Ball End one, because it will strip your fasteners out. Any hardware that is difficult to remove is more related to suspension, and is for advanced mechanics in a work shop. You shouldn't run into any of that for normal DIY jobs. Good luck!
Max, YOU Are The BEST! Thank you again for your Professional and Friendly Advice. I truly admire what you’ve managed to build in terms of your successful business. Take Care of Yourself and Happy Holidays, EJM, Downey, CA
@@edwardmasannat8228 Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!!!
Traxxion makes premium parts and stands behind them. As an owner of a GW and buyer of this specific part(s) I can assure you if you're not satisfied with the stock system Honda provides (my passenger was not: It's the equivalent of having a "car door handle" buried under the seat to hold onto) then buy it. If you' don't have any issues with the stock set up...then Don't. I've never felt the need to replace a "hand rail" until this bike. It's a safety issue.
But if you want a well designed and engineered product that solves multiple problems for passengers that increases safety and allows for other modifications to be added for the passenger, then this is a solid choice and the COST is not the issue, the value and solving a problem is. I'd venture to guess most of the "that's too expensive chorus" doesn't own a 2018+ Gold Wing. Honda makes a great product. Traxxion Dynamics (and many other aftermarket providers) make it better. IMHO. You get what you pay for in life. I like to tell people if you have a $5 dollar head...buy a $5 helmet, the internet never ceases to amaze me there is a $5 helmet market out there. :)
The "market" has spoken and Traxxion has been in business long enough to prove that. Feel free to ask questions if you're interested in more owner experiences/opinions with this product.
In other words, we don't cheap crap! You have a quality machine, use quality parts!
Yessir!
I think your costs to produce the finished product has surprised you and sales are not what you expected, hence the rant ?
Hi James, we actually sold through our first short run very quickly and it caught us off guard! We never like to tell anyone we are "Out of Stock"... so I have both of my mills going 14 hours a day to make the next 100 sets. The purpose of this video was just to give a look at what it takes to make a product like this... most people don't really have any clue or concept. As you can see from the posts here, people really enjoy this type of information.
I was a fitter machinist for 50 years so I have a good idea how long it takes to come up with an idea and make the parts. Some of Max's comments were exaggerated for effect but I still get the gist of what he is trying to get across. Anybody that thinks the grab rails exactly like Max's can be made and sold in the U.S for $200 is mistaken. They could be made cheaper overseas and Max knows that. His idea is out there and there could be an overseas manufacturer working on a cheaper version already.
While I appreciate the video and the extensive explanation, I still think $600 for grab rails are too expensive to buy. As a driver of the motorcycle they are of no use to me, they are more for the passenger but I don't always have a passenger so the expense is much too high. If it was something that impacted my driving then maybe I would consider but it doesn't so therefore I'll either wait for something less expensive or I will just keep what I have cause its really not that big of a deal to me.
It's not possible for someone who doesn't care about the comfort, security, and safety of their passenger to understand why this product would be beneficial. Enjoy the money you don't spend.
@@Traxxion Well I don't feel your hand rails will provide any more comfort, security or safety for my passenger and as for the money, it will be spent in better ways than on hand rails I don't really need. They are not for everyone.
Has anyone considered using UHMW is an ultrahigh molecular Weight Polyethylene or similar molded products with high strength strands in the ultra high strength plastic mix. Similar products exist for engine mounts as well as other services. Highly UV resistant and not easily scuffed. It can be drilled, tapped and one can even drive in a self tapping screw without damage if by common sense rules. Multiple colors available. Very similar to the polypropylene used for cutting boards with reinforced strands added in the mix and much stronger than some steel products. It can eliminate most CNC work. It is not a 3D printer product but a molding process. Makes me realize why the Stealth bomber is not made totally out of high strength aluminum.
No one will ever injection mold parts that are produced in 100pc quantities. The kit would cost $6,000, not $600. In this case, getting the matte finish that matches perfectly would be virtually impossible to do with a molded part.
If that process was something viable for production motorcycles, I think you would see plastic subframes and bracketry on motorcycles... but I've never seen that.
Exotic composite parts are sourced for Stealth bombers and the like where every gram matters, and price is of no concern to anyone working in the US Government.
Goldwing owners scream and cry about paying $27,000 for the world's best motorcycle...
@@Traxxion Makes me wonder why anyone would pay $27K for a bike that has a passenger seat without grab rails. I have to chuckle when I read owners defend Honda when there are so many downgrades on the 2018 models. Maybe the refusal to admit they jumped head first into shallow water. I think one look at the GPS should have been a red light.
Honda's mistakes are great profit centers for after market vendors.
I would pay more for a new 2017 level 3 than a 2018 however Honda is great for hiding the 2017's in warehouses.
I view the American version of the 2018 as an F6-B deluxe with ABS brakes and some info system from last years Harleys.
I think buyers will come to their senses when their local service departments work of their can-buss (SP) systems. Drifting off topic but OUCH!
I have no doubt that it cost this much to make them. What if it cost twice that much to make, would that justify charging $1200 for them.
Let me know when you have a half off price please!
Actually, yes it would. What is a saddle? It's just a board with some foam and a piece of pleather over the top... they charge $2,000 for that, and there's a line out the door....
No it wouldn't you clown that's the price of a second hand bike for fucks sake @@Traxxion
Quality must be paid so as simple is it , that is my opinion
I want to thank you for sharing this information.
I knew a couple of things; those grab rails looked awesome, and they were solidly built.
I have to admit, I was in the, "I'm not paying $600 for grab rails, I'll do without them" camp. (I never said anything to anyone, anywhere, but I thought it.) I think you have changed my mind, at least to the level of, I understand your pricing and agree with you for your reasoning. I really didn't think there was over $350 worth of materials and work in those grab rails, but i can see it now. At $350 to produce, $600 is not insane. I don't think many people appreciate how much it costs to run a business. I suppose there's a bit of liability involved also.
I've been looking at them more lately and think they would enhance the ride for my wife and give me a nicer place to strap gear on solo (Wild Hog) runs with the boys.
I love your videos, keep 'em coming.
I actually forgot to mention what it costs to pay staff to get all of this done... shipping back and forth to subvendors, etc. I should mention more frequently, we have a money back guarantee. If you bought the rail and your wife didn't think they were useful or made her feel safer, you can just return them for a full refund! Thanks for watching!
Good stuff Max! Looking forward to getting your grab rails - and other good ideas you’ll come up with.
Max, great video, thanks for showing what is involved in producing quality parts - made in the USA.
You are welcome. We are proud to be manufacturing in the USA!
they don't make the the heel toe shifter boards for the 2018 Honda Goldwing would be nice if you guys can come up with one Honda only makes a mini boards maybe y'all can design them...
I'm sure that product will be done by a company that makes parts in China like Kuryakyn or ShowChrome/Big Bike Parts. We can't compete against Chinese products unfortunately.
@@Traxxion I've been online looking with no luck it's sad cuz Honda Goldwing 2018 and 2019 have been in production for 2 years already
My brother owns a small machine shop and I know what goes into making small one off parts. People who don't get it are not worth your time...
We understand it’s a quality piece. Do they ever go on sale?
Thank you Max.
Thanks for the inside tour Max. I own a 2014 and don't plan on getting rid of it, otherwise, I would buy those for 600.
Not rocket science. Small machine shop making specialized parts. The price of aluminum has skyrocketed as well. What gets me is the failure of the motorcycle manufacturer who now seemingly eliminates equipment once deemed standard. Passenger grab rails should be standard equipment in my opinion.
It has "something" on the bike, but it's useless.
Come on, Max!! You know that all you have to do is chrome plate the darn things and they'll pay $3,000.00 for them.
There will be NO chrome on any Traxxion product!!!!
Hahaha
Thankyou for getting back...i will try to remove the "scratches"....they look silvery...probably from rubbing against its mate when i had them assembled in a box waiting for the dealer to install.
If you find they don't clean up, please send me some photos. max@traxxion.com
I'll still have to pass on them!
Well worth the money..Do you make grab rails for 2007 Goldwings lol
No, those are actually well designed and easy for the passenger to use.
Ok thank you for answering love this channel
Thankyou for replying...for now i WRAPPED them both with Tennis grip leather. When i remove it ill let you know... thankyou for caring
This explanation is much appreciated by the geek in me, but you shouldn't feel obligated to explain to the naysayers what costs are involved.
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to explain and show off the process. Really cool! I’d totally buy these if I had $600! Looks like a great product!
The market determines what costs it will bear...not your ideation time, developmental costs, material costs, productions costs, packaging costs, etc.
Uneducated comment. If an item doesn’t sell because of pricing, that has ZERO to do with the cost of producing within a given volume of production. Product may not sale do to price, but that’s a different discussion. His cost are his cost.
market determines price, not cost
John Martins exactly. The trick is to determine if you can produce a marketable (sellable) product with a cost structure based on levels of volume that produces profit.
Why not sub it out. Lots of CNC shops. You could make investment cast and sub that out too. Also you could build steel skeleton and injection mold it subbed out too.
I think it looks pretty good but the extension looks like a piece of uni-strut. Also, I think I know why the larger rarer black anodized luggage rack I had for an F6b is hard to find. They probably lost their ass
Thanks, Max - Very informative. :) Your explanation may increase sales for these grab handles AND your other products. :) dan in sonora, california p.s. - I, too, have a 2018 Honda Goldwing Tour DCT. :)
Hello Max, great video with shop tour, however, you forgot to mention your time and cost to make the video and explain why quality is not cheap and why it takes money to make money. People should also remember your time in thinking about these design modifications and putting them down on napkins. Keep up the great work and never lower your standards. I will continue to buy your products that will benefit or enhance my riding experience as my budget permits. Cheers.
Mine are worth every penny. It is a small market item, demanding customers, but deep pockets.
Great explanation why it cost so much to bring something to the market.
Most of the time I keep my big mouth shut... this isn't one of those times. With all due respect to Max... he's spot on when he reveals the cost associated with a vertically integrated design and manufacturing business model, quality machine tools aren't cheap as well as the human resources to utilize them effectively, however... There's more than one way to skin a cat. If someone wanted to go the same route as Matt, i.e. CNC machining multiple components from billet, you definitely don't need a million dollar facility to do it. There are many many one stop shop vendors that will mill, finish, anodize, and package your product for you and while you may incur additional costs, you also don't have the over head so it's pretty much a wash. Could the parts be cast aluminum, powder coated and look and function just as nice as CNC'd parts... Sure. Do molds cost you more up front? Yup... they do but the production cost is in the 10's of dollars per unit, actually much less than the cost of the raw billet material alone. Can you design products like this yourself? Yes, grab a free copy of Fusion 360. With a little practice and some research, you can model the design, analyze it using the free FEA functionality or even use the included AI driven generative design module to create a lighter and stronger component with only a few inputs. Want to make a 3D prototype? Sure... just shell out 500 bucks for an FDM printer or farm it out to one of the many prototypers out there. But... if you're not willing to go the extra mile and put in the work... Max is offering you a very high quality and well thought out accessory that will last as long as your bike and In the end... you're getting a made in America by American's product. Something to consider before going into sticker shock. Hat's off to Matt for stepping up and being one of the few that offer quality accessories and services because without guys like him... there would be none. FWIW... I'm a 35 year design engineering veteran with over 20 US patents. Keep up the good work Matt!
Thanks for your feedback! PS, I'm "MAX"! 20 patents.... that's awesome!
Excellent. Thanks for sharing.
They are proudly made of quality materials and quality high tech machines right here in the USA 🇺🇸
BOOM!!! Made in the USA!!! Hard to find these days...
What is the problem with the OEM rails? Did Honda screw up?
Yes, they're like reaching under the seat and they are about the size of a flush door handle. I have a set on my bike and as far as the wife is concerned they are Necessary and worth the price of admission.
Great explanation. Good job. Too bad you need to go to these lengths. Kevin from Ontario Canada
I wouldn't worry about the people that would pay
$600 and would only pay $200.. They don't have a clue! Any word on the tour pack kit?
Tour Trunk Kit is back from CNC Programming. We are running grab rails and as soon as a mill opens up we will start on them! I suspect ready for sale in 30 days, maybe less.
@@Traxxion -- Awesome... keep up the good work!
Great job Max and to your team. You guys are true craftsmen and make a high quality product. This product is not just cheap crap from communist china. Keep up the great work!
Thank you, Sir!