the symbolism behind the nesting dolls really emphasizes what abuse can do to others. the fact that the dad was already empty to begin with, and every time he yelled for more beer- agatha would become smaller and smaller until she was empty, is so heart-breaking
god i was trying to figure out what the nesting dolls meant when they opened cuz i knew besides a cultural point it had to mean something else and thats really good what u said i didnt even see agatha's get smaller
17:28 I think the plug constantly going in and out into the port symbolizes SA with both adult and kids shoes laying on the floor…even the bed shaking..it’s so heartbreaking to know that kids in real life go through this and think they are receiving love from a parent when it’s just abuse. This game also shows how kids are constantly shut down after sharing their trauma. We teach kids to depend on adult authorities yet they they ignore them saying “they’re just a kid! They can make this up!”. My heart goes to all abuse/SA survivors,I hope you find peace.
I could just tell it was SA... People don't realize a lot of SA Is by family members. Its gross. And it makes you feel like you cant tell anyone. Causing you to be trapped.
The plug and the outlet was the first thing I noticed😢 I also noticed while the girl was talking to the man about taking the trash out she was literally about to tell someone but he cuts her off to talk about his own shit😢
The I have no mouth and I must scream achievement really hurt bc essentially what it means is you need to say something/tell someone about what’s happening to you but you’re scared of what could happen
Thank you for playing The Hole and sharing it with others. 🖤 This game means a lot to us. As survivors of domestic abuse, we created it to reflect some of the harsh realities we’ve lived through-and to remind anyone experiencing the same: you’re not alone. 🌹 Abuse is never okay. If you’re in that situation, please know it’s not your fault. You deserve love, safety, and respect, no matter what. Things can feel hopeless, but the pain won’t last forever. Brighter days are ahead. By sharing this game, you’re helping us show others that their stories matter, that they’re seen and heard. Conversations like these can make a real difference. Thank you for standing with us. 🙏
Thank you for making this game. It really validated everything 😭😭. Watching Jay play this game and when I realized what was going on it made me want to cry and it made me think of myself when I was younger.
I'm so glad the game finally game out !! I've been a fan of BoberBros since "it's just a prank" and I've been sharing the game with my friends they love it at much as I do, thank you for always making great games !! 💗💗
im not fluent in Croatian, but the tv at 21:40 says something like "I loved playing with her. Playing, hiding from mom. We always had fun. She never said no. We were just playing."
i really appreciate and love jay for talking about difficult/serious topics. it’s nice to hear what his perspective is and every time it solidifies him being one of my favorite youtubers. a truly great human
True. Love a person who's funny but not rudely funny. True he can make harsh jokes, which personally I find funny, but still he can be serious and I appreciate that
Ngl i dont really agree im not sure if you guys include slapping or spanks and stuff like that but i feel like doing mistakes is fine but repeating them isn't a child cant rlly understand it the easy way you got make associations bad attitude = bad things happening bc if u do a mistake as a kid its ok but when your an adult getting a spanking is not the worst thing that can happen to you (pls if i wasen't clear on something tell me)
how about you stop being a soyboy baby and discipline your kids so that they dont turn out to be spoilt brats? How about us normal people smack our younglings when they misbehave?
@simonholczer3787I understand this take in the matter but as someone who was “spanked” with both a belt and hand, all it did was make me fear my parents. The whole patience aspect means that the parent is able to help the child understand the issue. There are other ways that a child can learn consequences other than physical or mental harm. This one person would make their child sit on the stairs for like 5 minutes and because the child is in fact a child it was “the worst punishment “. The only difference was that the child didn’t fear the parents but was still able to learn proper behavior. This was long sorry. I developed my own sense of justice and morality due to my parents deciding to stop hitting me and instead talking to me. But that fear still resides. I flinch even as an adult around my friends because if it. I know that they aren’t going to hit me and that if they did it wouldn’t hurt but that fear stays.
@allatrandomidk8774 ngl and i genually dont mean this is a bad way but i feel like thats more of a you/personal issue me and all my friends were spanked as kids and got punishement those made us have a better behavior then the others that weren't. Honestly that might just be us but i feel like the results are always the same idk if yk what i mean sorry if seemed rude at any moment it wasen't my intention
Y'all we need to protect this man. All these abusive parents trying avoid responsibility saying "soft parenting" is what creates all the hooligans when most criminals were literally the result of abusive situations.
There's a difference between normal parenting(what Jay does) and Soft Parenting. I worked in Daycares, the Kids who had Normal Parenting were very normal kids. The Soft Parented Kids, oh lord. They were the kids who were never actually taught how to behave in any way. One video i saw was very good example. This Kids bit his Baby Sister and the Mom just gently took his hands and went. "Hey buddy, that's not very nice." And nothing else, no time out, no asking why he was acting out, no redirecting his behavior, just allowed to do whatever he wanted without anything more than just a very very gentle. "That's not nice." Without any explanation to why he couldn't/shouldn't do that, 0 consequences, just was allowed to go back on his tablet like nothing happened. That's Soft Parenting and those Kids are practically impossible to work with at Daycares because you basically aren't allowed to do anything. You can't even properly put them in time out, they basically go. "If they don't want to sit in timeout, oh well." Like...seriously? Like. Timeout is the best thing. We just wrote notes of what they did and gave it to the parents to sign and those Parents are the reason their Kid is like that, so, nothing happened and the Kids just did the same stuff again the next day. Just. Ridiculous. Like. I feel bad for these Kids.
@@justarandompepe8961laying your hand on your child for being a child and making mistakes is disgusting and is abuse. it only instills fear in them and the idea that you can hit people for doing something wrong. if you think hitting kids, as an adult, is okay, you are disturbed.
@@justarandompepe8961 I was treated just like that and what did thart give me? Really shitty mental health, a very strong fear and distrfust for my parents and difficulty in opening up. Not being able to give myself rest, constantly paranoid of my surroundings...mind you...at home (I'm still a minor). I have more things wrong with me, but the point is, if you think laying your hands in a violent manner on someone who is significsntly weaker, smaller and way more maluable (with how experiences shape a child) is ok? Then you have no business being anywhere near a child. You clearly think that it is ok to physically harm a child to make they learn something but all they learn is to fear those who they are told to love, to distrust everyone in the fear that they'll hurt them, to harm otheres when they want someone to learn something, to degrade their self worth and among more depressing shit. HITTING.KIDS.IS.ABUSE. DISCIPLINE.IS.NOT.PHYSICAL.HARM THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE, but the line is thin and you can cross it if you're not careful...
I’m Polish so my entire life it was totally normal for me because in Poland it’s actually second nature to hit your child for the tiniest thing that they did wrong I’m 19 now and my family still threatens to hit me when I’m doing something wrong
I’m not gonna lie that is actually so disgusting and disturbing what the dad did bc the fact that he kinda lived in his own delusions to keep himself sane and the “game” was technically a way to manipulate and guilt the child into doing what the father wants. The game clearly outlines that and shows what it is and how people respond to it. Children are always too scared to speak up bc what will they do? They rely on the parents more than anything. It’s really heartbreaking and I hate it. I hate it all.
The so called "game" the father kept talking about, and when the girl said she didn't want to play anymore, I didn't catch what happened. Did he r@p3 her? Or did he full blown @bu$3d her then? Im really happy that Jay understands serious situations and stuff like this 💗
Agatha suffered so much holy, In this game this is where her story of getting abused is shown while in IJAPB, she canonically gets brutally murdered by an insane classmate
17:26 I legit had that lightbulb moment and went "Oh my God." When it finally clicked to me what happened, especially the fact that the person's legs didn't touch the ground.
"Witnessing is enduring but it's never easy" Honestly this line and game got me really emotional. When I was fourteen, I was SAed for years by my director and singing coach who was a college student at the time. His mother read our text messages and warned him to stop, but she never followed through on those threats as he continued and got more physical. I was groomed into loving and worshipping him, and through my ignorance and his mother's silence the abuse kept going on for years. I wish someone had saved me back then. I wish someone had cared. Even now, every night at age twenty, I feel his hands on me. Thank you Jay for playing these games and discussing things like this, it allows me to have a bit more empathy for my younger self. (Edit: your support is bringing me to tears-happy ones!! Thank you all, I wish you all the happiness and love in the world ❤️)
I am so sorry you had to go through that. No one should have to ever do that and I hope you know there's a lot of other people who've had that happen so your not alone. I think your very strong for being able to share something so personal, it's really something to admire how you can talk about something so traumatic❤❤
@ionelalexandra thank you so much ❤️ I’m making alot of progress with therapy and support groups, i have determination and more than that: hope. Thank you for your kindness!!
@@brookie-yy5ez thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️ having people be supportive means the world to me, I’m always so worried about people thinking of me negatively once I tell them what happened
This game reminded me alot of my own childhood.. I had a father like Agatha, the ending actually made me cry hard.. thing that hurts is papa doesnt feel any guilt like the guy in this game.. thank you for the words at the end, Jay... you're one of the few TH-camrs I know that doesn't shy away from heavy things like CSA. Thank you, so so much
I hope you’re doing so much better now. It bothers me that you even still call him “papa” as he doesn’t deserve that title. A real father should protect their child, not hurt them. He doesn’t deserve the title.
I’m assuming “The Hole” is referring to the father’s bottomless pit for alcohol? Or whatever he’s doing to the kid? And I’m assuming the doors turning into cement walls represents how divided/disconnected the guy is from his neighbors or its representing that he doesn’t even recognize that there’s a door there. To him it’s a wall, so there’s no one else living on the other side? And maybe everything that he saw In the neighbors is actually a reflection into himself. He killed his wife, his neighbor killed his wife, he abused his kid, his neighbor abused his kid, etc. When he got drunk he was touchy-abusive, when he wasn’t drunk he was physically-abusive. That’s why the girl was like “Right…” when the dude said he was chill when he drank. Maybe the guy drilled holes into the wall as a way to spy on his neighbors cuz he’s super paranoid about being found out? I’ll just wait for another commenter to break down the gist, I don’t think I’m fully getting everything I didn’t expect this game to be so dark. For some reason I was thinking that a literal black hole was gonna show up and suck up everything
The Thumbnail(ig game cover image) was going to mean the Game was about a Peeping Tom thing and Maybe he witnessed somethin he Shouldn't, not that the Character was Actually the Father doing stuff to the Kid and completely disassociating from the reality of what he's doing..
After realizing what was going on half way through the id, my stomach started tightening up. I hate that there are kids like Agatha being abused and feeling as if it's their fault even when they grow up. I also hate how there are adults like the guy Agatha was walking to the trash with who couldn't receive the help they needed and grew up to be slightly like their abusers (referring to how he became an alcoholic like his abusive "father")
@NightmareNews69 Oh no, the troll got mad, run as fast as you can y'all! He's so scary and tough with his edgy ahh username and goofy pfp (which is from a kids game) 💀☠︎︎
The guy agatha was walking with IS the dad, the player character is the dad, it's some silent hill shit. And we cann assume he abused his daughter just like his father did to him, and the moment of walking with the trash is one of those "sometimes he felt like a real father" moments, the player character mentions
@@nasercartoon6067 That's true. At first I thought the character we play as was somewhat decent. Then at the end I finally realized what kind of person he is...
@highsourjamapple9141 fr sometimes you think you can handle it until you see the gameplay/story just like this game and mouthwash its heartwrenching imo so I'm glad jay cares
@@V0C4L01D4LYF not sure if you'll see this or not but please don't have a hatred for every guy. Although more of the male population is convicted of it I just hope you don't hate all of us or anyone. Male, female, kids. Like you just can't change the fact some people is just worse than everyone else. Coryxkenshin, kubzscouts, berleezy, dashie, jacksepticeye, dantdm, and many more people that aren't being recognized is trying to fix it. Sorry that happened to you its just sad
27:27 At that very moment Jay realized, as a person that got SA i will always feel bad for any character that represent SA in any series, movie,game anything
CSA is so messed up, I feel bad for anyone who went through it. I wish I could forget mines but the ptsd follows me everywhere. You are seen and heard; you are not alone. I wish I could hug everyone who shared your stories. I'm glad, I can never see his face again and im glad i do not remember his face no more. It wasn't my dad, it was my stepdad. This game is beautiful and sends a good message.
It's a scratching noise that ties in with the TV glitching. Like everything is interrupted to remind him of what he did, the worst of it that he refused to face head on. Really strange that it's cut in two parts with such a long silence. IMHO you're right, it's also meant to sound like a zipper. Maybe even that sound being messed up because of how traumatic it is?
@ondiiina I personally think it was meant literally as a sound effect of zipping *up* the pants, for no hidden meaning or metaphorical purposes, just the sound of the Dad zipping up his pants after he finished his "deeds" with Agatha. That's it. I think that felt more horrifying for me, as this would signaled that Agatha was r*ped (again...) right before she played out her whole acting games with the nesting dolls.
16:45 made me tear up a bit , I wish my mom had the same mentality as Jay all those years ago😭 A bit into the game during the second ending quote “I have no mouth and I must scream” is painful but relatable, coming from a Caribbean household, where I tried to scream and no one would listen because they’re stuck with their ways, it’s sickening but true 😭 Much love to others that went through abuse/still going through it. You’re strong ❗️
I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream is a book with so few pages but it did so much for science fiction, it's about the aftermath of WW3 where humanity made an AI called AM, read it or watch a video summary, I really reccomend it, it's freaky, cruel and disgusting
there's always gonna be a ton of hate directed at younger generations, so i really appreciate jay taking the time to have something encouraging and appreciative to say. truly that dude
This game creator always does an amazing job at giving awareness to such hard but true situations. Makes me feel better about everything ive gone through and that others will be able to learn about it.
my dad did the same to me. i always wished that i could've seen things like this when i was younger to help encourage me to speak out sooner. even now i still feel like it must've been my fault that my own father would do that to me but this video helped me remember that i was only a child. i'm away from him now but it took many years to build up the courage and its effects on me will last a lifetime. thank you so much jay for not being afraid to play games that shed light on these topics, please keep bringing awareness!
im so sorry i hope you've healed and found happiness ❤ nevermind that nasty comment from that night guy, what happened to you is important and one more voice against SA
I love games like this because not only are they interesting and creative a poetic kind of way, they are also spreading awareness. I know this game has helped at least one person reach out to someone. If you’re in a situation like this, I hope you’re able to access the things you need to get out of it. And don’t ever assume that it’s your fault or you deserve it for being “disrespectful”, or don’t think it’s any less serious just because it’s a family member. I’m proud of you for being strong. You got this.
I love that Jay isn’t just silly and funny all the time and he’s able to be serious sometimes. I love when he plays these games with serious topics because he always talks about how he feels about it. It shows that he has a heart and he really is a person behind the scenes. The Kubz Scouts is peak content and I’m so glad I found him when I was little
nahh cause gladly my dad didn't reach the point where he used his tool, im just relieved it didn't end to that, but still sucks that he SA me and he still lives with us because of certain circumstances. This game made me cry
it's honestly sickening to think that these scenarios actually happen in real life. to all the victims out there, my heart goes out to you. i wish you all the best and healing
talking about hitting, my mom used to do that alot when i was a kid til teen. never got any comfort from my parents. they made me feel everything's my fault. nothing i do makes them happy. now as an adult, im still with them, but currently saving up money as much as i can to leave. my actions now, mostly i be careful so nothing would trigger them. its tiring. that ending text made me teared up badly. being born and growing up in this environment is just, fucked. nobody deserves abuse.
I'm really sorry, man. That's genuinely awful. My Mom was like that too, my Dad is amazing, but, even with him being a huge strong man, he was scared to intervene, worried she would try to flip the narrative on him. I'm genuinely glad she's out of the house now(even if she's living in the backyard, at least i don't actually have to deal with her). It's much more peaceful(except for one of my brothers, he's basically like her, i want him gone, but again, my dad doesn't have the heart to do anything right now, which i can understand, but it genuinely makes me too uncomfortable to actually leave my room and i can't move out because of my health issues). I genuinely hope you'll get out soon, you deserve much better.
17:26 Anybody notice how the hole was directed in a way where it was under the bed. You can see Agatha’s and her father’s shoes right at the edge of the bed. Not to mention room the bed creaking and subtly shaking. I think it indicates that the SA was happening right in that scene. The noises were played off as just the tv when it was the actual bed in real time. The plug going in and out on the tv was also a symbol of the SA and what was currently happening in that moment.
30:13 I wish someone was there to tell me these words. I gathered my courage to tell one of my friends about what happened to me, but they made joke of it instead. and I thought that they are trying to cheer me up, and when it happened again, like a fool with no ways out I talked to them about what happened to me again, and instead of getting comfort, they made jokes about it AGAIN. I felt so alone and really didn't knew what to do and all of those traumas grew into BPD at the age of 17. and it feels like I'm nothing but the pain I have been through. but seeing this it made me cry, and comforted me in some ways. you're the best dude out there Jay! we love youuuu
I don't think this game is in the same universe as it's just a prank. Agatha in that game got killed by Johan, but in this game she got killed by her father.
28:35 this section truly just gut punched me. I was abused when I was a child, it happened over the span of months by someone who I presumed was my friend. It took me two years to even speak out, and now almost 10 years later I refuse to stay silent. I will never stop naming and shaming the people who allowed me to suffer for so long, the people who allow this pain to breed. I've been watching Jay for so long, seeing him talk about these issues helps me to heal, and I hope one day that these crimes will never be a thought in anyone's mind. I stopped being a victim and became a survivor the day I stopped allowing my abuser power over me. Healing is not a linear path, but its so worth it in the long run.
as someone who went through 16 years of child abuse its difficult to call 'disciplining' the same as beating your child or making them stand in a corner and what not, if someone hits you and says they love you, its not love, you're clearly getting manipulated into thinking so. people of abuse are also human, it doesn't mean use them as a ragdoll, people are sensitive which means you have to treat them with gentleness. if you're in some sort of toxic or abuse relationship or family, call for someone, I care for you. Just power through, you got this. 🙏
"Based on a true story" scares me already and I haven't even watched the video yet 17:25 got me realized so fast and made me sick to my stomach :[ -bed shaking -Whatever tf the TV is playing but shows a plug-in and out repeatedly -small...... shoes..? -child legs 28:33 I agree with all of these, one problem comes to mind: even when victims speak up - no one seems to believe or care. Even with people they trust (sometimes) And No, this doesn't still mean you have to keep quiet 😀
This game made me cry and it’s horrible how he manipulated the little girl and convinced himself what he did wasn’t wrong ,that end part made me cry because I was SAed too. wasn’t that similar to the game, but whenever I hear of a story, with it in it I cry, I was a child, I still am, I never spoke out about it ever I Wish I saw this game when I was younger. Maybe it would’ve moved me to do something.
@ thank you I really appreciate it and it’s been a couple years I was 10 then. I hope you have a wonderful day and again I really do appreciate your kind words. :) I wish I heard them back then
seeing people in the comments saying they are more disturbed on a brainrot heated cereal over the serious topics like child assault is making me cringe so hard.
Literally!! those comments pissed me off. The developers created the game to spread awareness and these lame people talked about heated cereal instead of the serious topics.
sometimes people comment before finishing the video, although there are definitely people who would avoid saying anything about the themes of the game too
this game is honestly so sad and growing up I also went thru what she went thru and I just thought it was normal, anyone who has been thru this please speak up and dont be afraid.
Thank you for commenting, so many people had to see that. I wish I would've spoken up about the sa I had endured. So once again: Thank you and I hope you're doing better ❤
As a teenager who came out from many different types of abuse, I’m glad you played this game & you addressed this. Your my favorite youtuber & when you make it clear how you don’t support abuse or things like that reminds me that your not just funny but your also caring. Will always be your #1 supporter love you Jay!❤
I’ve come from a long line of abuse from my family. My dad was abused by his father and he used to hit me and my brother. I remember so clearly that he told me that he never wanted to hit his kids like his father used to do, But he still did and it honestly made me sick on how he tried to rationalize his abuse. Hitting is wrong no matter what, Jay is right about his tangent about physical abuse and its effect on a child. We shouldn’t normalize those things.
The part where the character we play as tells Agatha about their own trauma is just so symbolic to me with the way trauma practically gets passed down from parent to kid, and then when the child becomes a parent they continue the cycle of trauma until it leads to the actions inside of “The Hole “. And like how Jay said himself, older generations brushed off lots of stuff that would be seen as super serious in our generation along with making it seem VERY normal which it definitely isn’t!
jay you always have the most respectable views about sensitive subjects and are the true role model. you work so hard to post as well you deserve the best and im surprised youre not bigger than you already are. you’re a true pure soul and im thankful for people like you.
"I had a friend who said 'if they hit you, they care' " My family dynamics were like this and as I grew up my mother got more violent with me because my father was abusive towards my mom, I guess in a way it was her way of coping but I'm 22 now and I still keep in contact with my mom but some days I wished I didn't and some days I wished she treated me better. But because of her, I don't feel like I should have any children of my own because I am afraid my trauma will effect me as a parent and I am afraid that I will also do the same to my child. But I agree with Jay, it's not that they care or out of love. It's to put fear in you so you know your parents are not ur friends but more the dominant one in the relationship.
TH-cam was really like, "Have you ever cried while watching a Kubz Scouts video? Well, you will now." I thought i could hold back to tears, but the last few minutes of the video just broke me. You're an amazing person, Jay ❤❤
16:49 can we have a moment and talk about how great of a person Jay is? Mason is so lucky to have such a great dad like him 🙏 Jay is really that dude and what makes it better is that Jay is someone that others have trouble being. Thank you Jay for being such an awesome dude ❤ you slay queen PERIOOD 💅💅
One of the reasons I love jay is with games like this he takes time at the end to break it down for us and really gets into the unfortunately hard reality of thing's, but he does in a way that makes it easier to grasp the knowledge that yes there are scumby people out there, but there are also great amazing people who care and love you
The tw warning, the sensitive topics, the way that Agatha was mention from the last game made me think this was a prequel or something, I’ve never felt so much chills and disgust to what adults do to children, I usually express these topics to spread awareness for people to stand up and prevent this kind of abuse from everyone, the message that the developers did at the end touched my heart, People, you are never alone, they’re will be someone or people that truly care for you and will heal you from the past
Jay talking about serious topics, like at the end of the video seriously makes me want to sob- he's so sweet, and comes across as so genuine, this is what I love about him-
Fr started crying watching this, especially because I unfortunately am one who experienced a childhood like that.. even worse. Abuse is extremely bad and difficult, and by the way jay was speaking on that topic truly shows he is a great father and will continue to be one❤
Every single video jay posts always makes me feel happy, even when it's a sad game like this. It warms my heart that he always understands, Jay is truly that dude.
omg i had the worst day and have been in a major depressive episode since last month and finally got up to do something productive today and so i’m feeling hella proud. this video made my day and im so excited to watch it rn omg edit: this game fucked me UP but i’m so glad to see jay address things like this bc a lot of creators avoid it
Low-key cried at the end, the game does hit way too close to home, just not by an adult. The last texts of reassurance is very heartwarming, knowing there are others who care about others who go through such things. The game is very eye opening to such events, I’m glad there’s a game that speaks out and share a deep message above it all.
30:11 When I was being abused by a family member as a young child I had no idea about literally any other options there were to take or any idea that I myself could do anything to change what was happening. Thank you Jay for facing a difficult topic head on and giving your thoughts with the upmost respectfulness. Its very validating to see a youtuber you love feel the same way you do about something bad that's happened to them. and thanks again for not shying away from these topics, its hard but just turning away from a problem will never lead to awareness and help.
The absolute horror and disgust I felt when I realized what was happening to Agatha! And the wife getting abused and unalived leaving the poor kid alone with that monster is heartbreaking!!!! 💔
This hit way too close to home my age wasn’t that from Agathas’ when it happened to me. I’m glad it’s being talked and spread around as an awareness that CSA and Domestic violence is persistent and this game is somehow teaching the viewers what signs to look out for. This was truly most gut wrenching and somewhat relieving that most if not everyone understood what the game is trying to put out
the ending talk really made me cry- i really look up to you Jay and hearing you talk about such heavy topics and knowing that your channel and your content really is just such a safe space makes me so happy 🫶🏼 youre really that dude Jay
This made me cry. This is coming from a victim. I always loved horror games that have deeper meanings. Like anything related to S@ etc. It spreads the message about it. ( also jay you helped me get through hard times and even saved me from leaving this world I know u may not see this but when I first saw u. You got me out of a bad State I was in. Love u jay
children look up to their parents in a way they cannot realize when something is abuse.i grew up thinking it was totally normal that my parents hit me, i didnt know it was wrong until they divorced and my mother just stopped for some reason, and my brain hid those memories from me. a few years ago i remembered it and it hit me hard. it's like the brain tries a defense mechanism hiding traumatizing memories. abuse breaks children. the only thing they learn from that is fear, and fear will control their lives. i just dont understand why have children if you're gonna make them suffer.
I understand what you mean...I was at least 9 when I started to get hit. I had some underlying mental issues and I'm not sure they existed before or after I got abused. The effects became worse when I grew older. I used to be outgoing and happy but now I'm introverted and depressed. These kinds of parents do not understand that they're pushing their own trauma onto their children and the effects will haunt them forever.
I think at 18:40 its suppised to make you feel how Agatha felt. Just watching this, i got dizzy and wanted it to stop, but i kept waiting to see if it would get better, so i didn't stop. Its an ongoing tunnel, soemthing that seems never endind and only seems to get worse.
You know, sometimes i refer to Jay as papa Jay ,because for 7 years that i watch you , you are more of a father to me... In fact i cut contact with my father a year ago because i was sick of his bullshit, manipulations, ignorance, broken promises and other stuff. All i had for a year was my mom who i fixed relationship with 3-5 years ago, my best friend from across the world and Jay , so watching these videos helped me a lot through my depression especially since i started watching after 3rd attempt on life that i made mainly because of my grandparents, father and kids from school. So yeah... Thank you for making these videos they are some of my favourite parts of the day and i rewatch them frequently when i am playing games or drawing
The fact that the other game (Its just a prank) hinted already that Agatha was getting abused is terrible. Thanks for spreading and giving your words to these serious topics Jay, appreciate it.
30:30 Wasn't expecting this game to end like this. Love the message in the end. Me and my mom talk about things like this sometimes too and you have to remember that just because their blood related family doesn't mean that you have to stay connected with them. They will guilt trip you into staying if they're abusive. Family is people you can trust and people who will support you and people you love. Find people you're comfortable with and try to get help or cut ties and report abusive people in your life. It helps yourself and future victims. I appreciate seeing Jay talking about topics like these ones and sharing it with others, as well as the game devs for bringing light to these situations. Wish everyone love and safety. (sorry if there are grammatical errors or spelling errors, it's late and I'm not a native
this game really made me emotional. before i was born, my parents used to abuse my siblings and this game really made me reflect on what kind of people they are. im so so sorry to every abuse and or sa victim out there. my heart goes out to you ❤ youre not alone
16:11 hit so close to home dude, my dad was extremely abusive before he got sober.. so watching jay play this game and say these nice things really makes me feel heard..
14:23 "Sometimes, when he wasn't drinking... He almost felt like a real dad." Damn, that actually hit hard and wayyy too close to home 😬 real cool game and i loved your commentary as always!!
I grew up similar like Agatha with a dad who likes to drink and smokes alot, except he neglected me alot. He cheated on my Mom had a secret child outside home and very manipulative towards us. He abuses my mom alot, leaving bruises and yells alot too Good thing we officially “escaped” away from him. Now we’re living in peace
I was neglected and abused as a child, and it was horrible. My mother didn't feed me, locked me in my room for days, and beat me if I did anything wrong. Even now, on instinct, if I'm alone in my adoptive father's house and the door is closed, I pound on the door, to ask for something. Honestly, the worst part about it was that I didn't even realize it was bad. All my school friends were horribly traumatized, and I think we all just thought 'hey, this happens to other people, so it must be fine for it to happen to me!' It's not. If you ever struggle with that, please speak up. If not for yourself, do it for the ones still struggling. By getting out of your own abusive household, you give other kids enough hope for them to do the same.
the symbolism behind the nesting dolls really emphasizes what abuse can do to others. the fact that the dad was already empty to begin with, and every time he yelled for more beer- agatha would become smaller and smaller until she was empty, is so heart-breaking
god i was trying to figure out what the nesting dolls meant when they opened cuz i knew besides a cultural point it had to mean something else and thats really good what u said i didnt even see agatha's get smaller
i feel like he was taking everything about her. her happiness, her innocence, everything
yess its a matryoshka so that makes so much sense
Those are called matryoshkas! I like your way of thinking!
I was wondering that… not only that but every time there was a plug and a outlet on the tv and you kept hearing noises is absolutely sickening
17:28 I think the plug constantly going in and out into the port symbolizes SA with both adult and kids shoes laying on the floor…even the bed shaking..it’s so heartbreaking to know that kids in real life go through this and think they are receiving love from a parent when it’s just abuse. This game also shows how kids are constantly shut down after sharing their trauma. We teach kids to depend on adult authorities yet they they ignore them saying “they’re just a kid! They can make this up!”. My heart goes to all abuse/SA survivors,I hope you find peace.
if u notice their shoes :(
Yeah I noticed it the first time that gave me chills
I could just tell it was SA...
People don't realize a lot of SA Is by family members. Its gross. And it makes you feel like you cant tell anyone. Causing you to be trapped.
The plug and the outlet was the first thing I noticed😢 I also noticed while the girl was talking to the man about taking the trash out she was literally about to tell someone but he cuts her off to talk about his own shit😢
real.
The I have no mouth and I must scream achievement really hurt bc essentially what it means is you need to say something/tell someone about what’s happening to you but you’re scared of what could happen
Yeah fr, this game has some heavy stuff.
i thought of the game
That’s not true. It’s actually a reference to a short story published in the 60s.
@@saraplays3363 could be BOTH dont be ignorant
It's also a reference to the book "I have no mouth and I must scream" which is a very messed up book imo
Thank you for playing The Hole and sharing it with others. 🖤
This game means a lot to us. As survivors of domestic abuse, we created it to reflect some of the harsh realities we’ve lived through-and to remind anyone experiencing the same: you’re not alone. 🌹
Abuse is never okay. If you’re in that situation, please know it’s not your fault. You deserve love, safety, and respect, no matter what. Things can feel hopeless, but the pain won’t last forever. Brighter days are ahead.
By sharing this game, you’re helping us show others that their stories matter, that they’re seen and heard. Conversations like these can make a real difference. Thank you for standing with us. 🙏
Love you bober bros
💝
Thank you for making this game. It really validated everything 😭😭. Watching Jay play this game and when I realized what was going on it made me want to cry and it made me think of myself when I was younger.
Thank you😭😭
I'm so glad the game finally game out !! I've been a fan of BoberBros since "it's just a prank" and I've been sharing the game with my friends they love it at much as I do, thank you for always making great games !! 💗💗
im not fluent in Croatian, but the tv at 21:40 says something like "I loved playing with her. Playing, hiding from mom. We always had fun. She never said no. We were just playing."
Eugh 😨
i don’t think it’s polish, it sounds more croatian/serbian
Eww…😨
@@FREAK4FEITAN It is Croatian. The first 2 words on the screen translate to "heavenly kingdom."
It’s very close to Russian. Like 9/10 of the words were Russian.
i really appreciate and love jay for talking about difficult/serious topics. it’s nice to hear what his perspective is and every time it solidifies him being one of my favorite youtubers. a truly great human
Facts, it makes me happy when does it and reassure people 😭 such a comfort channel
he makes me feel like talking to my own father 😭😭😭
True. Love a person who's funny but not rudely funny. True he can make harsh jokes, which personally I find funny, but still he can be serious and I appreciate that
Agree. Sometimes he talks so much shit you forget he can be serious like that😂 And I love a person who can do both of those things so effortlessly.
That's why he's THAT DUDE!
16:32 Jay spitting facts! If you aren’t patient or get frustrated easily to the point of violence, work on that or don’t have a kid at all.
He handled subject matter very well, ngl. And I love that!
Ngl i dont really agree im not sure if you guys include slapping or spanks and stuff like that but i feel like doing mistakes is fine but repeating them isn't a child cant rlly understand it the easy way you got make associations bad attitude = bad things happening bc if u do a mistake as a kid its ok but when your an adult getting a spanking is not the worst thing that can happen to you (pls if i wasen't clear on something tell me)
how about you stop being a soyboy baby and discipline your kids so that they dont turn out to be spoilt brats? How about us normal people smack our younglings when they misbehave?
@simonholczer3787I understand this take in the matter but as someone who was “spanked” with both a belt and hand, all it did was make me fear my parents. The whole patience aspect means that the parent is able to help the child understand the issue. There are other ways that a child can learn consequences other than physical or mental harm. This one person would make their child sit on the stairs for like 5 minutes and because the child is in fact a child it was “the worst punishment “. The only difference was that the child didn’t fear the parents but was still able to learn proper behavior. This was long sorry. I developed my own sense of justice and morality due to my parents deciding to stop hitting me and instead talking to me. But that fear still resides. I flinch even as an adult around my friends because if it. I know that they aren’t going to hit me and that if they did it wouldn’t hurt but that fear stays.
@allatrandomidk8774 ngl and i genually dont mean this is a bad way but i feel like thats more of a you/personal issue me and all my friends were spanked as kids and got punishement those made us have a better behavior then the others that weren't. Honestly that might just be us but i feel like the results are always the same idk if yk what i mean sorry if seemed rude at any moment it wasen't my intention
Y'all we need to protect this man. All these abusive parents trying avoid responsibility saying "soft parenting" is what creates all the hooligans when most criminals were literally the result of abusive situations.
There's a difference between normal parenting(what Jay does) and Soft Parenting.
I worked in Daycares, the Kids who had Normal Parenting were very normal kids. The Soft Parented Kids, oh lord. They were the kids who were never actually taught how to behave in any way. One video i saw was very good example. This Kids bit his Baby Sister and the Mom just gently took his hands and went. "Hey buddy, that's not very nice." And nothing else, no time out, no asking why he was acting out, no redirecting his behavior, just allowed to do whatever he wanted without anything more than just a very very gentle. "That's not nice." Without any explanation to why he couldn't/shouldn't do that, 0 consequences, just was allowed to go back on his tablet like nothing happened. That's Soft Parenting and those Kids are practically impossible to work with at Daycares because you basically aren't allowed to do anything. You can't even properly put them in time out, they basically go. "If they don't want to sit in timeout, oh well." Like...seriously? Like. Timeout is the best thing. We just wrote notes of what they did and gave it to the parents to sign and those Parents are the reason their Kid is like that, so, nothing happened and the Kids just did the same stuff again the next day. Just. Ridiculous. Like. I feel bad for these Kids.
@@justarandompepe8961 about 80% of all criminals were abused in some way as children, bub.
@@justarandompepe8961laying your hand on your child for being a child and making mistakes is disgusting and is abuse. it only instills fear in them and the idea that you can hit people for doing something wrong. if you think hitting kids, as an adult, is okay, you are disturbed.
@@justarandompepe8961 I was treated just like that and what did thart give me? Really shitty mental health, a very strong fear and distrfust for my parents and difficulty in opening up. Not being able to give myself rest, constantly paranoid of my surroundings...mind you...at home (I'm still a minor). I have more things wrong with me, but the point is, if you think laying your hands in a violent manner on someone who is significsntly weaker, smaller and way more maluable (with how experiences shape a child) is ok? Then you have no business being anywhere near a child. You clearly think that it is ok to physically harm a child to make they learn something but all they learn is to fear those who they are told to love, to distrust everyone in the fear that they'll hurt them, to harm otheres when they want someone to learn something, to degrade their self worth and among more depressing shit. HITTING.KIDS.IS.ABUSE. DISCIPLINE.IS.NOT.PHYSICAL.HARM THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE, but the line is thin and you can cross it if you're not careful...
I’m Polish so my entire life it was totally normal for me because in Poland it’s actually second nature to hit your child for the tiniest thing that they did wrong
I’m 19 now and my family still threatens to hit me when I’m doing something wrong
I’m not gonna lie that is actually so disgusting and disturbing what the dad did bc the fact that he kinda lived in his own delusions to keep himself sane and the “game” was technically a way to manipulate and guilt the child into doing what the father wants. The game clearly outlines that and shows what it is and how people respond to it. Children are always too scared to speak up bc what will they do? They rely on the parents more than anything. It’s really heartbreaking and I hate it. I hate it all.
The so called "game" the father kept talking about, and when the girl said she didn't want to play anymore, I didn't catch what happened. Did he r@p3 her? Or did he full blown @bu$3d her then? Im really happy that Jay understands serious situations and stuff like this 💗
Ok so did the dad SA’d the daughter? Or did he just make her get him beer? Genuine question 😭
nah... you think?
Want a cookie or sum
@@MISTY_911 don’t listen to this wack mf. he’s been making fun of everyone’s stories including mine he’s just bored.
Agatha suffered so much holy, In this game this is where her story of getting abused is shown while in IJAPB, she canonically gets brutally murdered by an insane classmate
Unironically the nicest thing that classmate has done for her sake. 😅
I love how jay always ALWAYS stands against injustice 😭 it's so comforting & validating
Honestly makes supporting him so rewarding ❤
fr
17:26 I legit had that lightbulb moment and went "Oh my God." When it finally clicked to me what happened, especially the fact that the person's legs didn't touch the ground.
Literally sick to my stomach
Can you explain? :( I just got to this part
@@altiinative5435 basically means the father doing yk the child as seen in the tv with the electrical cord scene and the bed noise
@@altiinative5435the bed was shaking and the person sitting on it at the end was a child
@@bananaqutethat’s what i thought when i saw this, genuinely i was hoping i was wrong
"Witnessing is enduring but it's never easy" Honestly this line and game got me really emotional. When I was fourteen, I was SAed for years by my director and singing coach who was a college student at the time. His mother read our text messages and warned him to stop, but she never followed through on those threats as he continued and got more physical. I was groomed into loving and worshipping him, and through my ignorance and his mother's silence the abuse kept going on for years. I wish someone had saved me back then. I wish someone had cared. Even now, every night at age twenty, I feel his hands on me. Thank you Jay for playing these games and discussing things like this, it allows me to have a bit more empathy for my younger self. (Edit: your support is bringing me to tears-happy ones!! Thank you all, I wish you all the happiness and love in the world ❤️)
I am so sorry you had to go through that. No one should have to ever do that and I hope you know there's a lot of other people who've had that happen so your not alone. I think your very strong for being able to share something so personal, it's really something to admire how you can talk about something so traumatic❤❤
we are here for you glad that you can tell people this we will never judge or treat you different ❤
I'm so sorry that happened to you. Nobody deserves this. I hope you get better with time ♡
@ionelalexandra thank you so much ❤️ I’m making alot of progress with therapy and support groups, i have determination and more than that: hope. Thank you for your kindness!!
@@brookie-yy5ez thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️ having people be supportive means the world to me, I’m always so worried about people thinking of me negatively once I tell them what happened
This game reminded me alot of my own childhood.. I had a father like Agatha, the ending actually made me cry hard.. thing that hurts is papa doesnt feel any guilt like the guy in this game.. thank you for the words at the end, Jay... you're one of the few TH-camrs I know that doesn't shy away from heavy things like CSA. Thank you, so so much
i am so sorry. wishing the absolute best for you♡
i am SO sorry, i hope u stay away from him forever!!💗💗
Hope ur alright now dude that’s horrible. Take care of yourself
i'm so sorry girl, i hope you can find peace now. stay strong and healthy 😭🤍.
I hope you’re doing so much better now. It bothers me that you even still call him “papa” as he doesn’t deserve that title. A real father should protect their child, not hurt them. He doesn’t deserve the title.
I’m assuming “The Hole” is referring to the father’s bottomless pit for alcohol? Or whatever he’s doing to the kid? And I’m assuming the doors turning into cement walls represents how divided/disconnected the guy is from his neighbors or its representing that he doesn’t even recognize that there’s a door there. To him it’s a wall, so there’s no one else living on the other side?
And maybe everything that he saw In the neighbors is actually a reflection into himself. He killed his wife, his neighbor killed his wife, he abused his kid, his neighbor abused his kid, etc. When he got drunk he was touchy-abusive, when he wasn’t drunk he was physically-abusive. That’s why the girl was like “Right…” when the dude said he was chill when he drank.
Maybe the guy drilled holes into the wall as a way to spy on his neighbors cuz he’s super paranoid about being found out? I’ll just wait for another commenter to break down the gist, I don’t think I’m fully getting everything
I didn’t expect this game to be so dark. For some reason I was thinking that a literal black hole was gonna show up and suck up everything
The Thumbnail(ig game cover image) was going to mean the Game was about a Peeping Tom thing and Maybe he witnessed somethin he Shouldn't, not that the Character was Actually the Father doing stuff to the Kid and completely disassociating from the reality of what he's doing..
After realizing what was going on half way through the id, my stomach started tightening up. I hate that there are kids like Agatha being abused and feeling as if it's their fault even when they grow up. I also hate how there are adults like the guy Agatha was walking to the trash with who couldn't receive the help they needed and grew up to be slightly like their abusers (referring to how he became an alcoholic like his abusive "father")
@NightmareNews69 Bro tryna be edgy and tough sooo bad. You're not impressing anyone lil bro 💀😂
@NightmareNews69 Oh no, the troll got mad, run as fast as you can y'all! He's so scary and tough with his edgy ahh username and goofy pfp (which is from a kids game) 💀☠︎︎
@NightmareNews69 Gen X and millenials tryna be funny and tough. Get outta here boomer 👴🏻💀
The guy agatha was walking with IS the dad, the player character is the dad, it's some silent hill shit. And we cann assume he abused his daughter just like his father did to him, and the moment of walking with the trash is one of those "sometimes he felt like a real father" moments, the player character mentions
@@nasercartoon6067 That's true. At first I thought the character we play as was somewhat decent. Then at the end I finally realized what kind of person he is...
Can we appreciate the TW jay gives before the game fully starts
I appreciate it because I can get prepared for whatever is about to come
@highsourjamapple9141 fr sometimes you think you can handle it until you see the gameplay/story just like this game and mouthwash its heartwrenching imo so I'm glad jay cares
@@V0C4L01D4LYF not sure if you'll see this or not but please don't have a hatred for every guy. Although more of the male population is convicted of it I just hope you don't hate all of us or anyone. Male, female, kids. Like you just can't change the fact some people is just worse than everyone else. Coryxkenshin, kubzscouts, berleezy, dashie, jacksepticeye, dantdm, and many more people that aren't being recognized is trying to fix it. Sorry that happened to you its just sad
27:27 At that very moment Jay realized, as a person that got SA i will always feel bad for any character that represent SA in any series, movie,game anything
4:47 - "drink beer? Again?" Jay just sounds so disappointed 💀💀
Jay was definitely holding in a roast 😭
@@highsourjamapple9141 he definitely was😭😭
nuh uh
Remember, if ya boozing, ya losing
it’s so sad that people actually experience this everywhere.. there should be more awareness on this topic!
CSA is so messed up, I feel bad for anyone who went through it. I wish I could forget mines but the ptsd follows me everywhere. You are seen and heard; you are not alone. I wish I could hug everyone who shared your stories. I'm glad, I can never see his face again and im glad i do not remember his face no more. It wasn't my dad, it was my stepdad. This game is beautiful and sends a good message.
Any type of SA in that matter.
@@Liselomeow Of course any type of SA is messed up but im talking about the topic of the game
17:28 seeing the small children's shoes made my stomach drop
Thats the kid taking her own life? I thought it was the dad or mom but if kid makes sense
@@iperson4800 uh no one is taking their life in that scene. its far worse than that
Her dad was sa-ing her@@iperson4800
Its so heartbreaking, especially since it happens so often in the world.
What is it then @binkie8659
25:42 I don’t know if anyone else heard it, but I think pants unzipped before the Agatha and her dad part started..
I thought the same thing too
real
It's a scratching noise that ties in with the TV glitching. Like everything is interrupted to remind him of what he did, the worst of it that he refused to face head on. Really strange that it's cut in two parts with such a long silence. IMHO you're right, it's also meant to sound like a zipper. Maybe even that sound being messed up because of how traumatic it is?
@ondiiina I personally think it was meant literally as a sound effect of zipping *up* the pants, for no hidden meaning or metaphorical purposes, just the sound of the Dad zipping up his pants after he finished his "deeds" with Agatha. That's it.
I think that felt more horrifying for me, as this would signaled that Agatha was r*ped (again...) right before she played out her whole acting games with the nesting dolls.
16:45 made me tear up a bit , I wish my mom had the same mentality as Jay all those years ago😭
A bit into the game during the second ending quote “I have no mouth and I must scream” is painful but relatable, coming from a Caribbean household, where I tried to scream and no one would listen because they’re stuck with their ways, it’s sickening but true 😭
Much love to others that went through abuse/still going through it. You’re strong ❗️
ME TOOOO💔💔💔🫶
Jay be spitting the biggest facts ever and reassuring people who went through stuff
I'm so sorry, and I hope others get through it & heal 🤍
Yeah the second ending quote is painfully relatable, i was surprised to see it
This game kind of triggered me a bit, being a survivor of a narcissistic father, and a s*icide survivor.
I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream is a book with so few pages but it did so much for science fiction, it's about the aftermath of WW3 where humanity made an AI called AM, read it or watch a video summary, I really reccomend it, it's freaky, cruel and disgusting
1:58 so jay can close the door to avoid getting copyrighted but not when a murderer is chasing him 💔
priorities
0:23 - not the character immediately needing a beer😭😭😭 life must be rough
Life got bro stressing out so much 😭
Life stressed him out 😭😭
it’s the country life of an american 🇺🇸🇺🇸💥💥
@Ester-5 i literally was just thinking about this, this game would be more american if it had guns
@Ester-5 also as an american i can confirm.
there's always gonna be a ton of hate directed at younger generations, so i really appreciate jay taking the time to have something encouraging and appreciative to say.
truly that dude
This game creator always does an amazing job at giving awareness to such hard but true situations. Makes me feel better about everything ive gone through and that others will be able to learn about it.
my dad did the same to me. i always wished that i could've seen things like this when i was younger to help encourage me to speak out sooner. even now i still feel like it must've been my fault that my own father would do that to me but this video helped me remember that i was only a child. i'm away from him now but it took many years to build up the courage and its effects on me will last a lifetime. thank you so much jay for not being afraid to play games that shed light on these topics, please keep bringing awareness!
im so sorry :( nevermind that nasty comment from that night guy, know you are loved and supported. i hope youve healed and found happiness
im so sorry i hope you've healed and found happiness ❤ nevermind that nasty comment from that night guy, what happened to you is important and one more voice against SA
16:10 aw jay 🙁 you're so kindhearted ily
Real we appreciate a gentlemen like him
11:07 “WHAT IS THAAATTTTT 😡😡- Oh it’s an eye”
fell of my bed laughing
I love games like this because not only are they interesting and creative a poetic kind of way, they are also spreading awareness. I know this game has helped at least one person reach out to someone. If you’re in a situation like this, I hope you’re able to access the things you need to get out of it. And don’t ever assume that it’s your fault or you deserve it for being “disrespectful”, or don’t think it’s any less serious just because it’s a family member. I’m proud of you for being strong. You got this.
I'm not too crazy about the name Agatha
I love that Jay isn’t just silly and funny all the time and he’s able to be serious sometimes. I love when he plays these games with serious topics because he always talks about how he feels about it. It shows that he has a heart and he really is a person behind the scenes. The Kubz Scouts is peak content and I’m so glad I found him when I was little
Mason is so blessed to have such a caring, understanding, kind, and loving father like you. I wish my father was more like you. 💜💜
god the amount of victims in this comsec breaks my heart... i dont really know what to say, but i hope u guys r living a happy and healthy life now
nahh cause gladly my dad didn't reach the point where he used his tool, im just relieved it didn't end to that, but still sucks that he SA me and he still lives with us because of certain circumstances. This game made me cry
Thats crazy man he deserves to be locked up
@@iperson4800jumped even
I’m so sorry that had happened to you :c
This is sickening.. I hope you find peace one day and get away from that sicko
it's honestly sickening to think that these scenarios actually happen in real life. to all the victims out there, my heart goes out to you. i wish you all the best and healing
im giving jay an imaginary "i am a good human being" reward for respecting women AND being a good dad
bro is like
peak human being
Bosnian speaker here, i’m translating for 21:40
“I just only loved her, hiding from mom”
(Quality’s hard to read)
“My only Love”
Hope this helps!
omg fellow Bosnian speaker 🥹💌
talking about hitting, my mom used to do that alot when i was a kid til teen. never got any comfort from my parents. they made me feel everything's my fault. nothing i do makes them happy. now as an adult, im still with them, but currently saving up money as much as i can to leave. my actions now, mostly i be careful so nothing would trigger them. its tiring.
that ending text made me teared up badly. being born and growing up in this environment is just, fucked. nobody deserves abuse.
I'm really sorry, man. That's genuinely awful.
My Mom was like that too, my Dad is amazing, but, even with him being a huge strong man, he was scared to intervene, worried she would try to flip the narrative on him. I'm genuinely glad she's out of the house now(even if she's living in the backyard, at least i don't actually have to deal with her). It's much more peaceful(except for one of my brothers, he's basically like her, i want him gone, but again, my dad doesn't have the heart to do anything right now, which i can understand, but it genuinely makes me too uncomfortable to actually leave my room and i can't move out because of my health issues).
I genuinely hope you'll get out soon, you deserve much better.
hope you'll have enough money soon and found your home. keep going, we see you
17:26 Anybody notice how the hole was directed in a way where it was under the bed. You can see Agatha’s and her father’s shoes right at the edge of the bed. Not to mention room the bed creaking and subtly shaking. I think it indicates that the SA was happening right in that scene. The noises were played off as just the tv when it was the actual bed in real time. The plug going in and out on the tv was also a symbol of the SA and what was currently happening in that moment.
11:09 - I fell asleep for a second and Jay's beautiful harmonic vocals awoke me from my slumber🌸
I agree with you, and also, it kinda looks like a BOOSAYY🌺
30:13 I wish someone was there to tell me these words. I gathered my courage to tell one of my friends about what happened to me, but they made joke of it instead. and I thought that they are trying to cheer me up, and when it happened again, like a fool with no ways out I talked to them about what happened to me again, and instead of getting comfort, they made jokes about it AGAIN. I felt so alone and really didn't knew what to do and all of those traumas grew into BPD at the age of 17. and it feels like I'm nothing but the pain I have been through. but seeing this it made me cry, and comforted me in some ways. you're the best dude out there Jay! we love youuuu
Why did I cry when he said "Don't tell mom about our game's" I was literally scared for him to read that😟
I don't think this game is in the same universe as it's just a prank. Agatha in that game got killed by Johan, but in this game she got killed by her father.
I thought he only killed his wife?
I think she was abused in here and in the 'it's just a prank' might be the sequel
I don't think Agatha died here
@@chenyi_xiao1717 I believe she did. At 21:35 it shows she died at the age of 12.
@@A.Peacock I can't really understand the timeline of this game that well, but that could make sense if it took place after the events of IJAP
28:35 this section truly just gut punched me. I was abused when I was a child, it happened over the span of months by someone who I presumed was my friend. It took me two years to even speak out, and now almost 10 years later I refuse to stay silent. I will never stop naming and shaming the people who allowed me to suffer for so long, the people who allow this pain to breed.
I've been watching Jay for so long, seeing him talk about these issues helps me to heal, and I hope one day that these crimes will never be a thought in anyone's mind.
I stopped being a victim and became a survivor the day I stopped allowing my abuser power over me. Healing is not a linear path, but its so worth it in the long run.
Im sorry
Harry was a great cop here in Miami. He taught me how to think like one; he taught me how to cover my tracks
Dexter refrence
new gen
dexter mention
as someone who went through 16 years of child abuse its difficult to call 'disciplining' the same as beating your child or making them stand in a corner and what not, if someone hits you and says they love you, its not love, you're clearly getting manipulated into thinking so.
people of abuse are also human, it doesn't mean use them as a ragdoll, people are sensitive which means you have to treat them with gentleness.
if you're in some sort of toxic or abuse relationship or family, call for someone, I care for you.
Just power through, you got this. 🙏
"Based on a true story" scares me already and I haven't even watched the video yet
17:25 got me realized so fast and made me sick to my stomach :[
-bed shaking
-Whatever tf the TV is playing but shows a plug-in and out repeatedly
-small...... shoes..?
-child legs
28:33
I agree with all of these, one problem comes to mind: even when victims speak up - no one seems to believe or care. Even with people they trust (sometimes)
And No, this doesn't still mean you have to keep quiet 😀
17:26 the little girl’s shoes….and a big shoes god i feel so bad
This game made me cry and it’s horrible how he manipulated the little girl and convinced himself what he did wasn’t wrong ,that end part made me cry because I was SAed too. wasn’t that similar to the game, but whenever I hear of a story, with it in it I cry, I was a child, I still am, I never spoke out about it ever I Wish I saw this game when I was younger. Maybe it would’ve moved me to do something.
It's never to late to ask for help, please don't give up
@ thank you I really appreciate it and it’s been a couple years I was 10 then. I hope you have a wonderful day and again I really do appreciate your kind words. :) I wish I heard them back then
seeing people in the comments saying they are more disturbed on a brainrot heated cereal over the serious topics like child assault is making me cringe so hard.
Literally!! those comments pissed me off. The developers created the game to spread awareness and these lame people talked about heated cereal instead of the serious topics.
Wdym all comments I read so far are about CSA?
That had to have been early commenters before they finished the vid. the csa discussion is all I'm seeing right now (I'm watching this a day late)
sometimes people comment before finishing the video, although there are definitely people who would avoid saying anything about the themes of the game too
Isn’t that freedom of speech? People have the right to comment what they want to say. You are actually more cringy for that comment.
3:12 “eugh..” is so real because what even is that😭😭
😂😂😂that made me laugh
this game is honestly so sad and growing up I also went thru what she went thru and I just thought it was normal, anyone who has been thru this please speak up and dont be afraid.
Thank you for commenting, so many people had to see that. I wish I would've spoken up about the sa I had endured. So once again: Thank you and I hope you're doing better ❤
@@2days2425 ofc, i hope ur doing good too and fully recovered from that, i wish u the best of luck
As a teenager who came out from many different types of abuse, I’m glad you played this game & you addressed this. Your my favorite youtuber & when you make it clear how you don’t support abuse or things like that reminds me that your not just funny but your also caring. Will always be your #1 supporter love you Jay!❤
I’ve come from a long line of abuse from my family. My dad was abused by his father and he used to hit me and my brother. I remember so clearly that he told me that he never wanted to hit his kids like his father used to do,
But he still did and it honestly made me sick on how he tried to rationalize his abuse. Hitting is wrong no matter what, Jay is right about his tangent about physical abuse and its effect on a child. We shouldn’t normalize those things.
The part where the character we play as tells Agatha about their own trauma is just so symbolic to me with the way trauma practically gets passed down from parent to kid, and then when the child becomes a parent they continue the cycle of trauma until it leads to the actions inside of “The Hole “. And like how Jay said himself, older generations brushed off lots of stuff that would be seen as super serious in our generation along with making it seem VERY normal which it definitely isn’t!
jay you always have the most respectable views about sensitive subjects and are the true role model. you work so hard to post as well you deserve the best and im surprised youre not bigger than you already are. you’re a true pure soul and im thankful for people like you.
That outro mood switch was crazy 31:34
19:10 the switch up is crazy😭😭
WAKE UP EVERYONE
IM UP
no.
IM UP
IM UPPPPP (time for beer?)
Wide awake for Jay 🗣️
"I had a friend who said 'if they hit you, they care' "
My family dynamics were like this and as I grew up my mother got more violent with me because my father was abusive towards my mom, I guess in a way it was her way of coping but I'm 22 now and I still keep in contact with my mom but some days I wished I didn't and some days I wished she treated me better. But because of her, I don't feel like I should have any children of my own because I am afraid my trauma will effect me as a parent and I am afraid that I will also do the same to my child. But I agree with Jay, it's not that they care or out of love. It's to put fear in you so you know your parents are not ur friends but more the dominant one in the relationship.
When jay said the way he respects new gen for speaking out really touches me
I love how Jay stands against injustice in any form it appears. It's a solid comfort.
TH-cam was really like, "Have you ever cried while watching a Kubz Scouts video? Well, you will now." I thought i could hold back to tears, but the last few minutes of the video just broke me. You're an amazing person, Jay ❤❤
as someone who’s gone through child abuse personally, this game’s ending meant a lot. Jay’s words were well spoken as well.
16:49 can we have a moment and talk about how great of a person Jay is? Mason is so lucky to have such a great dad like him 🙏 Jay is really that dude and what makes it better is that Jay is someone that others have trouble being. Thank you Jay for being such an awesome dude ❤ you slay queen PERIOOD 💅💅
REAL
One of the reasons I love jay is with games like this he takes time at the end to break it down for us and really gets into the unfortunately hard reality of thing's, but he does in a way that makes it easier to grasp the knowledge that yes there are scumby people out there, but there are also great amazing people who care and love you
The tw warning, the sensitive topics, the way that Agatha was mention from the last game made me think this was a prequel or something, I’ve never felt so much chills and disgust to what adults do to children, I usually express these topics to spread awareness for people to stand up and prevent this kind of abuse from everyone, the message that the developers did at the end touched my heart, People, you are never alone, they’re will be someone or people that truly care for you and will heal you from the past
Jay talking about serious topics, like at the end of the video seriously makes me want to sob- he's so sweet, and comes across as so genuine, this is what I love about him-
Fr started crying watching this, especially because I unfortunately am one who experienced a childhood like that.. even worse. Abuse is extremely bad and difficult, and by the way jay was speaking on that topic truly shows he is a great father and will continue to be one❤
This hits hard especially since I can relate to being taken advantage of by a family member.
I hope you're doing ok and have better support now, I'm sorry you went through that
"WE LOVE JAY" WE ALL SAY IN UNISON
WE LOVE JAY
We love jay
WE LOVE JAY
WE LOVE JAY
WE LOVE JAY🖤🖤🖤☺️☺️☺️🥹🥹
I like how Jay really kept talking about how to seek help when going through abuse, and how he keeps bringing light to the topic.
Every single video jay posts always makes me feel happy, even when it's a sad game like this. It warms my heart that he always understands, Jay is truly that dude.
omg i had the worst day and have been in a major depressive episode since last month and finally got up to do something productive today and so i’m feeling hella proud. this video made my day and im so excited to watch it rn omg
edit: this game fucked me UP but i’m so glad to see jay address things like this bc a lot of creators avoid it
Hope you feeling better bro
Low-key cried at the end, the game does hit way too close to home, just not by an adult. The last texts of reassurance is very heartwarming, knowing there are others who care about others who go through such things. The game is very eye opening to such events, I’m glad there’s a game that speaks out and share a deep message above it all.
30:11 When I was being abused by a family member as a young child I had no idea about literally any other options there were to take or any idea that I myself could do anything to change what was happening. Thank you Jay for facing a difficult topic head on and giving your thoughts with the upmost respectfulness. Its very validating to see a youtuber you love feel the same way you do about something bad that's happened to them. and thanks again for not shying away from these topics, its hard but just turning away from a problem will never lead to awareness and help.
im sorry ml
The absolute horror and disgust I felt when I realized what was happening to Agatha! And the wife getting abused and unalived leaving the poor kid alone with that monster is heartbreaking!!!! 💔
28:25 I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM OMGG THE REFERENCE
This hit way too close to home my age wasn’t that from Agathas’ when it happened to me. I’m glad it’s being talked and spread around as an awareness that CSA and Domestic violence is persistent and this game is somehow teaching the viewers what signs to look out for. This was truly most gut wrenching and somewhat relieving that most if not everyone understood what the game is trying to put out
1 minute ago is crazyyy.... im as addicted to Jays videos as he is with pumpkin panic..
the ending talk really made me cry- i really look up to you Jay and hearing you talk about such heavy topics and knowing that your channel and your content really is just such a safe space makes me so happy 🫶🏼 youre really that dude Jay
This made me cry. This is coming from a victim. I always loved horror games that have deeper meanings. Like anything related to S@ etc. It spreads the message about it. ( also jay you helped me get through hard times and even saved me from leaving this world I know u may not see this but when I first saw u. You got me out of a bad State I was in. Love u jay
I always love watching Jay's videos because he reminds me so much of my father, its so comforting watching his content even when its games like this.
children look up to their parents in a way they cannot realize when something is abuse.i grew up thinking it was totally normal that my parents hit me, i didnt know it was wrong until they divorced and my mother just stopped for some reason, and my brain hid those memories from me. a few years ago i remembered it and it hit me hard. it's like the brain tries a defense mechanism hiding traumatizing memories. abuse breaks children. the only thing they learn from that is fear, and fear will control their lives. i just dont understand why have children if you're gonna make them suffer.
I understand what you mean...I was at least 9 when I started to get hit. I had some underlying mental issues and I'm not sure they existed before or after I got abused. The effects became worse when I grew older. I used to be outgoing and happy but now I'm introverted and depressed. These kinds of parents do not understand that they're pushing their own trauma onto their children and the effects will haunt them forever.
i was just craving some jay content. perfect timing 🙏🏽
I think at 18:40 its suppised to make you feel how Agatha felt. Just watching this, i got dizzy and wanted it to stop, but i kept waiting to see if it would get better, so i didn't stop. Its an ongoing tunnel, soemthing that seems never endind and only seems to get worse.
You know, sometimes i refer to Jay as papa Jay ,because for 7 years that i watch you , you are more of a father to me... In fact i cut contact with my father a year ago because i was sick of his bullshit, manipulations, ignorance, broken promises and other stuff. All i had for a year was my mom who i fixed relationship with 3-5 years ago, my best friend from across the world and Jay , so watching these videos helped me a lot through my depression especially since i started watching after 3rd attempt on life that i made mainly because of my grandparents, father and kids from school. So yeah... Thank you for making these videos they are some of my favourite parts of the day and i rewatch them frequently when i am playing games or drawing
The fact that the other game (Its just a prank) hinted already that Agatha was getting abused is terrible. Thanks for spreading and giving your words to these serious topics Jay, appreciate it.
Hot cereal is basically everything wrong with cereal, warm ,soggy and you get that milk slime thingy in your bowl.
Kajmak? Ye I dont like that either🤢
30:30 Wasn't expecting this game to end like this. Love the message in the end. Me and my mom talk about things like this sometimes too and you have to remember that just because their blood related family doesn't mean that you have to stay connected with them. They will guilt trip you into staying if they're abusive. Family is people you can trust and people who will support you and people you love. Find people you're comfortable with and try to get help or cut ties and report abusive people in your life. It helps yourself and future victims. I appreciate seeing Jay talking about topics like these ones and sharing it with others, as well as the game devs for bringing light to these situations.
Wish everyone love and safety.
(sorry if there are grammatical errors or spelling errors, it's late and I'm not a native
this game really made me emotional. before i was born, my parents used to abuse my siblings and this game really made me reflect on what kind of people they are. im so so sorry to every abuse and or sa victim out there. my heart goes out to you ❤ youre not alone
Boo Hoo
I really appreciate Jay for how serious he always is when shit gets real. Like he stops joking and always says his mind clearly. Big respect Jay
19:10 BRO JUST SWITCHED EMOTION QUICKER THAN LIGHTNING,NAH
19:09 or
16:11 hit so close to home dude, my dad was extremely abusive before he got sober.. so watching jay play this game and say these nice things really makes me feel heard..
Yooooo the titles and the thumbnail combo together is so double wild 😂👍
FRR LMAO
Jay was like "oh yeah this the one" 😭
thumbnail was CRAZYY 😭😭😭
Fr xD @@cxsmic.st4rs
@@highsourjamapple9141 xD
14:23 "Sometimes, when he wasn't drinking... He almost felt like a real dad." Damn, that actually hit hard and wayyy too close to home 😬 real cool game and i loved your commentary as always!!
I grew up similar like Agatha with a dad who likes to drink and smokes alot, except he neglected me alot. He cheated on my Mom had a secret child outside home and very manipulative towards us. He abuses my mom alot, leaving bruises and yells alot too
Good thing we officially “escaped” away from him. Now we’re living in peace
Omg I’m so sorry
I was neglected and abused as a child, and it was horrible. My mother didn't feed me, locked me in my room for days, and beat me if I did anything wrong. Even now, on instinct, if I'm alone in my adoptive father's house and the door is closed, I pound on the door, to ask for something.
Honestly, the worst part about it was that I didn't even realize it was bad. All my school friends were horribly traumatized, and I think we all just thought 'hey, this happens to other people, so it must be fine for it to happen to me!'
It's not. If you ever struggle with that, please speak up. If not for yourself, do it for the ones still struggling. By getting out of your own abusive household, you give other kids enough hope for them to do the same.