found one in trash...and before i knew suddenly i have over 40 stoves....i live in sweden and its alot easier to get these stoves - they are everywhere...BUT lately prices have skyrocketed to insane levels...its a fun hobby that you can make some money on...sometimes alot of money...
I too love these old pressure stoves! I have rediscovered them earlier this year, with all thoughts being on alternatives, re - the energy/food crisis. They have become almost a hobby for me and I have four of them now. Yours is called a "Silent" burner, which I think is a Primus No.5. There is also one the same size, Primus No.1 (and others) which is called a "Roarer" burner, which is, as the name suggests, noisier. They don't usually have to be prime burned with methylated spirit (denatured alcohol) twice. Once is almost always enough to heat the burner to the right temperature. If it doesn't light automatically as the meths burns off (tighten the pressure relief screw a minute before it's completely burned away) then a well placed lit match will usually do the trick. Also, either your leather cup washer on the pump is too worn and needs replacing. The stove would not normally need anywhere near as much pumping. If not the washer, then the non-return valve may be acting too slowly, needing cleaning or replacement. In my experience Primus is far and away the best make as far as quality of build and operation is concerned - don't waste your money on the cheaper alternatives made in India, as I did. Better by far to buy a vintage Primus and refurbish it. They just last for ever and once established, just the same as cooking on a gas stove, which it is of course, only the gas is paraffin (kerosine) gas. I use lamp oil, a more refined paraffin, albeit a little more expensive, but there's no smell, better for use indoors. I reserve paraffin for use in my blow lamps. I have several blow lamps and again have found Primus (632) to be easily the best, and burning hot enough to braze with. AND, I'm really into Aladdin mantle oil lamps, that's another story. All of these "Paraffin technology" articles were at the height of technological development before the "Modern age" of electronics etcetera. More importantly parts are still being made from the original and new tooling and all of them will probably outlast us all, as they originate in an age where things were made to, really last! Thank you for an excellent, and inspiring, instructional video. Subscribed!
I used both roar burners and silent burners leading wilderness tours in the 70's and 80's. I have a photo of my daughter starting one by 6th grade. I never had to double light either a roar or silent burner. For boiling a large pot of water the silent burner comes to a boil a little quicker than the roar. The advantage of the roar burner is the Noise. You soon learn by the sound how much heat the stove is producing. the roar burner is much better in the wind. I have three sizes of Brass stoves for different size trips.made by Optimus of Sweden as well as a small still in production Seva 123 white gas stove. It works the same as the stove in the demo. As with all stoves they all have learning curve. To preheat the tower I use white gas, liquid painters' alcohol or hand sanitizer gel in a pump. All three burn hot with no soot. In a pinch out in the field I often make a small wick out of twisted toilet paper and pump a small amount of stove fuel into the spirit cup. Light the wick and the kerosine will burn. You don't need much kerosine in the spirit cup. The brass stoves take up little space in a pack. They breakdown and the stove used in the video will easily fit in a 3 quart pot . The mid size fits in in a 2 quart and the smallest fits in a 1 quart pot as well as the Seva 123. After supper refill the stove and it will be ready for the next day. You always know how much fuel you have unlike at propane canister. At 81, I no longer lead trips but still go on three generation family trips and solo trips. You can find a good used stove on Amazon. My moto is always use the best technology, not the latest. The stove in this video does not break down, Not a good choice for back packing.
Excellent video , I just purchased one of these , a number 5, it brings back memories of me growing up in the 50s when my mum used it every day , she would clear a small space on the table and use a normal saucepan filled half way with lard , a deadly combination yet here I am 70 years later unscathed 😁👍
It is true....you can carry fuel in the stove but not THAT stove. It has a fixed burner and there is no way of sealing the fuel in the tank. I left fuel in my Primus no.5 and pressure built up in the warm weather and paraffin travelled up and out of the jet and made a real mess in the box the stove was housed in. I'd forgotten to loosen the pressure valve/tank lock before storing the stove. Primus/Optimus 96, 00, 45 collapsible stoves are more suitable for travel with fuel inside. The stove you have there (I assume a no.5) was essentially a domestic stove widely used to cook on in the 20s/30s and was often the only cooker they had. These are great stoves and very reliable. I still carry a Optimus 00 or a Primus 96 in the car. Being a stove nut and "old school" I have about 20 stoves to chose from.
This has got to be the best educational and well made videos I have ever watched. Loved the jazz. It was very helpful to me as I am bidding on one of these. Think I'll subscribe. Thanks mate 👍
Brilliant, thank you so much, I am working on some new material, hoping to start uploading the new content soon, check out the peel p50 stuff, you may like it
good video, I had just figured out the wire brush wire to be the jet pricker, if I had watched this first it would have saved me some fiddling around trying to get it burning properly.
What a wonderful vintage device, bud! Soaking the wind protector, pan rack, and flame spreader in pure apple cider vinegar for about three days will take all the rust, and tarnish off the metal, and using Mothers Billet Polish with micro fiber cloths along with a generous helping of elbow grease will shine all of that baby’s brass up till it literally almost blinds you. If you ever visit our Hawaiian islands and manage also to attend a traditional luau you’ll find spam is always a key ingredient!
I love these things! I have one very similar to the one shown in your video - same tank size, same burner size - but with a 4-way flame splitter rather than the inverted mesh cup. It's a fair bit louder in operation because the flame is more turbulent. In fact the flame often glows green from particles of copper oxide coming off the brass tubes and getting ionized in the intense heat. I also have several of the primus blowtorches, which operate in basically the same way, also designed for paraffin, though I run mine on either white spirit or barbecue lighter fluid since these are cheaper. They have a much hotter flame temperature than gas blowtorches - easily hot enough for high temperature silver soldering or even brazing. There is a nice little modification you can easily do to either a stove or a blowtorch to make it easier to pressurize: Unscrew the pump housing and take out the piston and shaft. Then stick a brass Schrader valve stem (car tyre type valve) through the housing and solder it in place to make an airtight seal. Screw this back onto the stove or blowtorch, and now you can pressurize it with any hand or foot pump. I just use a standard piston bike pump to pressurize mine now - it takes only 2 or 3 pumps at most to pressurize the tank, rather than many times that with the tiny little piston pumps they originally come with.
@@forwardtothepast2411 Yep, tried it first on a really old one where the leather piston had turned to dust - and this brought it back to life, since there was nothing else wrong with it. Only one thing to be careful of - some cheaper valve stems today are brass plated aluminium, and these are just about impossible to solder to because the brass layer is so thin. But as long as you get a solid brass one, you're good to go.
Excellent video, you forgot to mention that if you try to cook anything apart from bacon, eggs, sausages, beans, steak, spam, corned beef or tea on it you will be breaking several laws of camping. Now I want some Spam!
This video is showing “Under-Burn”. Clean, blue flames should be emitting through the holes in the cap. You will destroy your burner if you follow this guy's advice.
Hello matt, I am planning on doing more videos, but this lock down has been a busy time for me , I work in retail and set up a free delivery service for the vunrible, , this took up vast amounts of my free time, however now things have slowed up a bit I would like to make some more , that you for your support. Alex 😀
Hello, how many memories. In my house they used it, it went with kerosene and it lasted a long time. It was very cheap to cook. Will they still sell it?
the only one new i know of that is still produced is svea 123 and its a smaller gasoline stove. I bet they make new ones in india too...but theres plenty of vintage ones to get...
The Americans use kerosene, but that's the same thing apparently, some people say you can use petrol or diesel, but I think that would be very dangerous, I would say paraffin only
@@forwardtothepast2411 This whole "Fuel" topic is quite the Rabbit hole , kerosene is aviation fuel apparently. But I have been in this rabbit hole and my conclusion using the Occums Razor is that there are 2 main fuels Oil based and Alcohol based from fermentation/bacteria, and the simple question why are'nt engines built to run on ethanol , also Natural Gas was once Coal/Town Gas but is merely mostly Methane and Methane can be produced by bacteria begging the question Where does our current Gas in UK come from ? As I believe Gas can created ethically and cheaply and thyat Fracking is not what we think it is Or Crude oil maybe the result of melting and distillation of millions of human corpses from current and past massacres.
Spam Spam Spam ..... No no stop that ....sorry OLIVE OIL! that's a bit hoity-toity where was the Lard or dripping lol at least you had a nice drop of meths to wash it down with
Need help. My stove is making small fire. Even though I was pumping. Does it mean I need washer. Sorry sir I'm not techy. Just keeping myself busy after brain hemorrhage. But I'm enjoying. Pls advice.
found one in trash...and before i knew suddenly i have over 40 stoves....i live in sweden and its alot easier to get these stoves - they are everywhere...BUT lately prices have skyrocketed to insane levels...its a fun hobby that you can make some money on...sometimes alot of money...
I too love these old pressure stoves! I have rediscovered them earlier this year, with all thoughts being on alternatives, re - the energy/food crisis. They have become almost a hobby for me and I have four of them now. Yours is called a "Silent" burner, which I think is a Primus No.5. There is also one the same size, Primus No.1 (and others) which is called a "Roarer" burner, which is, as the name suggests, noisier. They don't usually have to be prime burned with methylated spirit (denatured alcohol) twice. Once is almost always enough to heat the burner to the right temperature. If it doesn't light automatically as the meths burns off (tighten the pressure relief screw a minute before it's completely burned away) then a well placed lit match will usually do the trick. Also, either your leather cup washer on the pump is too worn and needs replacing. The stove would not normally need anywhere near as much pumping. If not the washer, then the non-return valve may be acting too slowly, needing cleaning or replacement. In my experience Primus is far and away the best make as far as quality of build and operation is concerned - don't waste your money on the cheaper alternatives made in India, as I did. Better by far to buy a vintage Primus and refurbish it. They just last for ever and once established, just the same as cooking on a gas stove, which it is of course, only the gas is paraffin (kerosine) gas. I use lamp oil, a more refined paraffin, albeit a little more expensive, but there's no smell, better for use indoors. I reserve paraffin for use in my blow lamps. I have several blow lamps and again have found Primus (632) to be easily the best, and burning hot enough to braze with. AND, I'm really into Aladdin mantle oil lamps, that's another story. All of these "Paraffin technology" articles were at the height of technological development before the "Modern age" of electronics etcetera. More importantly parts are still being made from the original and new tooling and all of them will probably outlast us all, as they originate in an age where things were made to, really last! Thank you for an excellent, and inspiring, instructional video. Subscribed!
I used both roar burners and silent burners leading wilderness tours in the 70's and 80's. I have a photo of my daughter starting one by 6th grade. I never had to double light either a roar or silent burner. For boiling a large pot of water the silent burner comes to a boil a little quicker than the roar. The advantage of the roar burner is the Noise. You soon learn by the sound how much heat the stove is producing. the roar burner is much better in the wind. I have three sizes of Brass stoves for different size trips.made by Optimus of Sweden as well as a small still in production Seva 123 white gas stove. It works the same as the stove in the demo. As with all stoves they all have learning curve. To preheat the tower I use white gas, liquid painters' alcohol or hand sanitizer gel in a pump. All three burn hot with no soot. In a pinch out in the field I often make a small wick out of twisted toilet paper and pump a small amount of stove fuel into the spirit cup. Light the wick and the kerosine will burn. You don't need much kerosine in the spirit cup. The brass stoves take up little space in a pack. They breakdown and the stove used in the video will easily fit in a 3 quart pot . The mid size fits in in a 2 quart and the smallest fits in a 1 quart pot as well as the Seva 123. After supper refill the stove and it will be ready for the next day. You always know how much fuel you have unlike at propane canister. At 81, I no longer lead trips but still go on three generation family trips and solo trips. You can find a good used stove on Amazon. My moto is always use the best technology, not the latest. The stove in this video does not break down, Not a good choice for back packing.
@@tomsitzman3952know if there's a silent burner on the market that'll fit a primus no.210?
Very clear and easy-to-follow explanation. Thank you.
Excellent video , I just purchased one of these , a number 5, it brings back memories of me growing up in the 50s when my mum used it every day , she would clear a small space on the table and use a normal saucepan filled half way with lard , a deadly combination yet here I am 70 years later unscathed 😁👍
It is true....you can carry fuel in the stove but not THAT stove. It has a fixed burner and there is no way of sealing the fuel in the tank. I left fuel in my Primus no.5 and pressure built up in the warm weather and paraffin travelled up and out of the jet and made a real mess in the box the stove was housed in. I'd forgotten to loosen the pressure valve/tank lock before storing the stove. Primus/Optimus 96, 00, 45 collapsible stoves are more suitable for travel with fuel inside. The stove you have there (I assume a no.5) was essentially a domestic stove widely used to cook on in the 20s/30s and was often the only cooker they had. These are great stoves and very reliable. I still carry a Optimus 00 or a Primus 96 in the car. Being a stove nut and "old school" I have about 20 stoves to chose from.
Have a silent burner by anychance that'll fit a primus no.210?
Wonderful video. Thank you mate.
A very clear explanation..thanks
This has got to be the best educational and well made videos I have ever watched. Loved the jazz. It was very helpful to me as I am bidding on one of these. Think I'll subscribe. Thanks mate 👍
Brilliant, thank you so much, I am working on some new material, hoping to start uploading the new content soon, check out the peel p50 stuff, you may like it
good video, I had just figured out the wire brush wire to be the jet pricker, if I had watched this first it would have saved me some fiddling around trying to get it burning properly.
What a wonderful vintage device, bud! Soaking the wind protector, pan rack, and flame spreader in pure apple cider vinegar for about three days will take all the rust, and tarnish off the metal, and using Mothers Billet Polish with micro fiber cloths along with a generous helping of elbow grease will shine all of that baby’s brass up till it literally almost blinds you. If you ever visit our Hawaiian islands and manage also to attend a traditional luau you’ll find spam is always a key ingredient!
I like your style
Excellent video!!👍
Thank you
I saw a clip on leg, that is for a small tube, it helps light the stove, I have one
I love these things! I have one very similar to the one shown in your video - same tank size, same burner size - but with a 4-way flame splitter rather than the inverted mesh cup. It's a fair bit louder in operation because the flame is more turbulent. In fact the flame often glows green from particles of copper oxide coming off the brass tubes and getting ionized in the intense heat.
I also have several of the primus blowtorches, which operate in basically the same way, also designed for paraffin, though I run mine on either white spirit or barbecue lighter fluid since these are cheaper. They have a much hotter flame temperature than gas blowtorches - easily hot enough for high temperature silver soldering or even brazing.
There is a nice little modification you can easily do to either a stove or a blowtorch to make it easier to pressurize: Unscrew the pump housing and take out the piston and shaft. Then stick a brass Schrader valve stem (car tyre type valve) through the housing and solder it in place to make an airtight seal. Screw this back onto the stove or blowtorch, and now you can pressurize it with any hand or foot pump. I just use a standard piston bike pump to pressurize mine now - it takes only 2 or 3 pumps at most to pressurize the tank, rather than many times that with the tiny little piston pumps they originally come with.
Hey Lloyd, that's very interesting about the alternate way to pressurise the stove, thanks for sharing
@@forwardtothepast2411 Yep, tried it first on a really old one where the leather piston had turned to dust - and this brought it back to life, since there was nothing else wrong with it. Only one thing to be careful of - some cheaper valve stems today are brass plated aluminium, and these are just about impossible to solder to because the brass layer is so thin. But as long as you get a solid brass one, you're good to go.
Cool stove
Thank you kindly sir.
Excellent video, you forgot to mention that if you try to cook anything apart from bacon, eggs, sausages, beans, steak, spam, corned beef or tea on it you will be breaking several laws of camping. Now I want some Spam!
This video is showing “Under-Burn”. Clean, blue flames should be emitting through the holes in the cap. You will destroy your burner if you follow this guy's advice.
Yes quite right blue flame should be emitting from all the holes in the cap for a good burn.The jet needs cleaning possibly as somethings not right .
I was thinking the same thing
Great little video, I score you a 9, you lose 1 point for not keeping it vintage and cooking with lard 😉
I'm with you there Darren no lard not vintage.but excellent video.
This Primus is way quieter than one I saw, it´s bigger, too. I like the old music, underlaying this with techno woudn´t work.
Can I ask why videos have stopped . Enjoy and good work many thanks
Hello matt, I am planning on doing more videos, but this lock down has been a busy time for me , I work in retail and set up a free delivery service for the vunrible, , this took up vast amounts of my free time, however now things have slowed up a bit I would like to make some more , that you for your support. Alex 😀
@@forwardtothepast2411 oh good on you and thank you will look forward to them I am a collector hoarder lol. Great work stay safe 🙂
Is Spam ever 'on'?!?!? Great video mate, cool little stove that, well impressed.
Hello, how many memories. In my house they used it, it went with kerosene and it lasted a long time. It was very cheap to cook. Will they still sell it?
Yes
the only one new i know of that is still produced is svea 123 and its a smaller gasoline stove. I bet they make new ones in india too...but theres plenty of vintage ones to get...
In America, Parafin is a wax. So is your Parafin and oil or gas?
its oil, basically kerosene
What other liquids can be used other than paraffin ? thanks
The Americans use kerosene, but that's the same thing apparently, some people say you can use petrol or diesel, but I think that would be very dangerous, I would say paraffin only
@@forwardtothepast2411 This whole "Fuel" topic is quite the Rabbit hole , kerosene is aviation fuel apparently. But I have been in this rabbit hole and my conclusion using the Occums Razor is that there are 2 main fuels Oil based and Alcohol based from fermentation/bacteria, and the simple question why are'nt engines built to run on ethanol , also Natural Gas was once Coal/Town Gas but is merely mostly Methane and Methane can be produced by bacteria begging the question Where does our current Gas in UK come from ? As I believe Gas can created ethically and cheaply and thyat Fracking is not what we think it is Or Crude oil maybe the result of melting and distillation of millions of human corpses from current and past massacres.
I’m sorry, I didn’t catch the name of the purple fuel you used to warm up the tubes.
Hi, I've a TIGG England stove and looking for some parts particularly the primer. Do you know where I can source them?
Ebay is where I look 😀
@@forwardtothepast2411 thanks
I love spam, however bacon grill is better!
Spam Spam Spam ..... No no stop that ....sorry OLIVE OIL! that's a bit hoity-toity where was the Lard or dripping lol at least you had a nice drop of meths to wash it down with
Where would you buy spare leather/rubber parts for the pump? Cause I can't find any,
Thanks
Ebay 😀
Don't tell em Pike!!!
Need help. My stove is making small fire. Even though I was pumping. Does it mean I need washer. Sorry sir I'm not techy. Just keeping myself busy after brain hemorrhage. But I'm enjoying. Pls advice.
Probably need to clear the jet where the vapour comes out from
Hi what model is this primus please
12:10
Steve1989 says it is.
Primus stove
No ok... no pression...... pompe is no good....... ! I have the same problem.....! maby colemen stove kit pression...?
wheres woman pete