yeah seems like the hard part, i just wonder if kvm-QEMU can also run windows ? And maybe like create shortcut on a desktop gui basis ? (i need a secondary low end gpu though)
as far as I am concerned my Linux PCs with Intel Core i7 Haswell CPUs and AMD NAVI GPU are the current pinnacle computing systems of the 21st century. I can use them to run directly, compile and run, emulate or virtualize almost any software that has ever existed. With easy use of any game controller or other input or display device, the only relevant platforms the GNU/Linux 64-bit Intel Computer is incapable of supporting or has issues with include: obscure Windows programs that don't run well in Wine or VM (most work perfectly), Online Windows games with aggressive, expertly-written anti-cheat software (weak anti-cheats can be bypassed), NVIDIA RTX Shader technology that can only be executed by the special hardware in an NVIDIA RTX GPU, and Xbox One games (the only console there is no emulator for. For PS4 games, you will have an AMD CPU not Intel, because the PS4 is completely jailbroken and when you use it as your Linux PC, it will have an AMD CPU, and you may run PS4 games on it also 😹), and the software compiled for a modern *IBM z14 MAINFRAME COMPUTER* , this large computer's CPU is more specialized and powerful for its intended software than zOS emulators on amd64 are. Beyond that, Intel and their friends the US government can spy on you using the Intel Management Engine, no matter what you do. Aside those things there is no platform better, though we shall see what Apple can do to encourage competition with ARM CPUs in the Desktop PC market..
Love the transparency of building your virtual macOS. Usually, I have a hard time finding tutorials not knowing where to start, this pretty much gives lots of insights with each mention of performance tweaks.
@@snazzy Even ir its not a full blown out tutorial, this video leaves a great taste of mouth. I'm happy that you ventured from Pop!OS to Arch-ish. How is the community treating your questions?
I found it disappointing that he skipped one of the most crucial parts which is the passthrough stuff and he said it's boring. Yes, perhaps he thought it was boring, but for noobs like myself, it's impossible to understand what he was talking about. :-(
For your own setup (and likely mine) you should consider going for a 'lite' (headless, stripped whatever you might call it) Arch based distro that is configured to basically act as a kiosk for VM. Removing the memory/resource footprint of the host means you can allocate more resources to the guest and you'll likely cut your overhead in half. A little more user expertise required but for better results all in.
@@danielcs88 no, Argentineans/Uruguayans use hands like that too.. He said "Qué vaina Ché" 😅 makes sense I believe he lived some time in South America before becoming a TH-camr.. As missionary of The Church Of Jesus Christ..
I am going to assume you realised sosumi is a play on " So sue me" directed at Apple haha Edit: As mentioned in the replies from the Beatles dispute situation
apparently it's been removed from the snap store... the link in the description is not only broken. If you search the term sosumi on the website it wont find anything. And google or DDG dont show search results for installing sosumi without snap... Even the github page only shows the run of the mill CLI installation that does not find any package named sosumi... It's been effectively wiped off the face of the w^3 WTF, it seems, I came along a bit too late into the game.
I’ve been doing iOS development on a macOS KVM on my 3950x for about 6 months now... I’ve really impressed by the performance... I also think we could probably see a big performance increase with Zen 3.
2 years later, but does the virtualization support OS updates flawlessly? (Being an over 10years MacOS, and tired of buying macs for thousands of $, looking for life long alternatives 😅)
3:20 Oh snazzy! Virtualization on Intel is actually called VT-x! VT-d is a feature that allows for passthrough of pci and pci-e devices via iommu, also usefull for virtualization, but only if you want to passthough a pysical gpu instead of e.g. virtio or qxl for fully virtualized graphics (i.e. no second power succing gpu in your system, although performs worse then real one).
This is another classic Snazzy video. Dude, the level of your geekiness is unparalleled. Glad I subbed a long time ago. Now to go and get some nothing done. 😉
@@ashishdeharia9137 That's only if you're a power user, in my experience the only time my Manjaro Gnome 20.04 system has only broken when I try to do something that pretty much only a hardcore developer would do. But I don't know how you have used Linux so maybe it does break for you.
Absolute banger of a video! In a sea of Notepad tutorials, MovieMaker transitions and cringy EDM music, yours are what I would describe as the highest standard of instructional video. Heh, the connoisseur's choice in tutorials. You're literally putting others to shame. Well done, Quinn! You're a treasure!
Point 1 3:10 It will work well on a core 2 duo and above. If you investigate foxlet's script, he has listed the processor as a C2D. So anything with Westmere and above will work just fine. Point 2 Import it to Virtual Machine Manager if you are not comfortable with the terminal. Point 3 You can do a passthrough before the install modify the ram and do all sorts of things before the install. Either modify the scripts or rogue stuff through the virtual machine manager in Foxlet's script. Point 4: 2-5% hits common. VMWare and virtualbox but 20%. I haven't seen the KVMmanager eatmore than 5%.
I've been using this since I built my rig for things that can only be done on macOS (and some Safari testing). It is awesome. Sadly, I have GTX 1080 Ti so I am stuck on High Sierra. And honestly, it is better than a Hackintosh, simply because of the outstanding features Linux sports on the disk management side (you can use ZFS with compression, encryption, snapshots for example, plus it has great caching capabilities if you have lots of RAM). Even if you needed to run macOS full-time, you can set it up in Linux so that it starts the VM on your display output by default. There is very little difference from a Hackintosh at that point and you get it on a standardized set of hardware (Qemu and all it provides)
I had the simplest and most successful experience recently with "macOS-Simple-KVM". I run it on WSL in Win10 with VirtualBox. after some basic configuration - it works like a charm.
From a separate comment: Odd. It was a site I used to (erm, semi-illegally) acquire DSD music download rips from Blu-ray audio disks when I couldn't find them legally. Seems the URL is dead and now redirects somewhere different every time you click the link. Safari must have auto-snagged the favicon from one of the times it redirected to somewhere sus. I've clicked it 4 times in the last 5 minutes and it went to a Spotify playlist, CNN, a "buy this domain" page, and another page that tried to have Safari download something. Would not recommend visiting for obvious reasons but for those curious: hdmusic.biz/
Great JLC Reverso! 1 - I noticed that recently, so many Tech TH-camrs became mechanical watches collectors. Did you notice that trend? 2 - Please make a SOTC 2020 (no tech-related, but very cool nevertheless).
Glad I caught that, too. Just watched the LTT video showcasing the Pippin today. Also: "You'll find yourself Googling tutorials on how to turn the iPad Pro into a tennis racket." Nice.
Wow, this is great if you are the ultimate Mac and Linux wizard. Thinking about building a Hackintosh, but after seeing this, I may end up buying the iMac 24.
Quinn: "Here's how to run MacOS under Linux" Me: "Why? Everything I do for free in Linux costs money in MacOS!" Ten years ago the MacOS version of an app was highly polished and perfected whilst the Linux version was rather rough around the edges - now its quite the other way around but now you're expect to hand over $25 for what is a free app on other Linux or even Windows.
...because I have accumulated over 10K dollars worth of software on the Mac that meets my needs, but am using it on a computer with a small screen that needs to be replaced due to failing components and Apple doesn't make 17" screens anymore for portables and doesn't make repairable upgradable computers anymore. Even a battery replacement for a Mac costs over $300. That's stupid.
Here's something that wasn't mentioned within the video. The hard drive is out of the box set with a specific amount of space (can't remember how much), but you can easily give it more space by doing the following. Close the sosumi window as soon as it opens without playing around with anything. Open up a terminal & cd into the sosumi folder containg the VM image "cd ~/snap/sosumi/common/". Finally resize the image using the following command "qemu.img resize macos.qcow2 +44G". Just change 44G to whatever size you wish. When done open up sosumi again & proceed with everything as normal. This only works if you do it first things. if you've already installed or played around with the vm it'l not work so make sure to do it first if you want more hard drive space....
I've started with Xubuntu and now on this new laptop I'm on MX Linux (Debian base) But Linux has been having too many problems with Hardware, mainly temperatures 10 to 15 degrees Celsius higher than on Windows 10. Do you know if MacOS (Hackintosh) allows me to run from USB like Linux does? (avoid writes on SSD as much as possible)
0:54 “You’ll find yourself googling tutorials on how to turn your iPad Pro into a tennis racket.” Listen, after Mr. Mobile turned his LG Wing into a ping pong paddle, I just had to know how I could make my iPad into a tennis racket.
My personal iPad experience makes me want to turn it into a frisbee. Though to be fair in only half of the cases it's the iPad's fault being not having enough RAM and not fast enough storage. The other half being the homebrew apps from my employer, Boeing and the security authentication related to them.
Manjaro team rocks. They've really hit the magic spot between giving users all the configurability of linux a la Arch and the user experience somebody moving to Linux from Windows would expect. Also, I've found ManjaroARM to be the best running distro on Raspberry Pi 4 (better than their own OS or the ubuntu that's still nowhere near Manjaro, after a year of trying).
Awesome job on that! Love the little side "undesirables" bit haha. While I've not dabbled with Linux but have tried a Hackintosh, this seems interesting to try.
Ah... yeah... I forgot about that problem... MacOS dropped support for 32-bit, didn't it? So that means I would not be able to play my old retro games. Shame... Well, but 32-bit applications would still work inside of Wine, correct? Can anyone confirm? I can't live without my Simcity 3000 LOL
"It works best on Arch". Is anyone surprised by that? :D I was the guy who said: "Arch is easy to install if you know a few little things", it is true, it really is not difficult. A cool project, Snazzy Labs.
Found this in an article explaining how to setup sosumi: "It's worth noting from the start that Apple doesn't allow installing macOS on non-Apple hardware, so to use this legally you must have Linux installed on Apple hardware." I guess that's where it gets it's name from.
Meh should've just watched Linus' video before doing this. And also should've configured cpu allocation before Mac OS installation. That's the clean way I follow
3:22 No, you will find it listed as VT-x or Intel Virtualization not as VT-d this feature does exist and allows for pci-e passthrough so your hypervisor (the software that allows you to run a virtual machine) can address real hardware from a virtual machine. For instance a real graphics card.
Thanks. I wanted a 'back up' in case my mac mini ever failed. The Russkie ladys instuctions were hard to follow but I use the "simpleKVM" and got a back up for my mac mini as a VM. It also helped me with (play learn) the Clover software, may take another stab at a hackintosh.
This is soooo cool. I may want to try this on my 2012 Mac Pro, which can't run Catalina (because Apple ⚡⛈️☄️🔥🌊). So, I install Linux, then run Catalina (and later Big Sur) as a VM. Sweet.
The basic virtualization technology is know as AMD-V but, yes, it's often (though not necessarily always) referred to as SVM (secure virtual machine) in the BIOS and by default it is usually disabled. To pass though PCIe-connected hardware for use by the VM you also need another technology, known as AMD-Vi, and generically as IOMMU, to be enabled. The default BIOS setting for IOMMU is often "Auto", which I suppose means that it's enabled, though I prefer to set it explicitly to "Enabled".
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Yeah, mine is Gigabyte also called SVM. Thanks for that info
Some games any-cheat detect that you run in a VM. That’s the only thing that might hold me from doing this when I build my next computer. I’ll probably do like this anyway and have windows dual boot for those few games, if I can be bothered.
Not necessarily, there are many applications which still do not have equally capable alternatives. While most applications are fine, I shouldn't have to start a VM to run Photoshop. And no, GIMP just isn't there yet. This is coming from someone who daily drove Linux for 6 years , and actively maintains Linux servers. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux, but some of the apps I use require Windows.
I'll add that I tried virtualization and it was a nightmare. The passthrough docs were entirely dependant on which distro of linux you used, also which method the poster used and never worked for me. Also, what Snazzy Labs didn't point out which was clear in the video is you need two graphics cards. I bought a Radeon 580 to supplement my Nvidia 1070 Super and I still couldn't get it to work. It's also important to note that your motherboard is essential in its ability to assign (forget the exact terms) dedicated paths for the passthrough. IMO, just run MacOS natively with OpenCore, make sure you buy a WiFi/Bluetooth card off Amazon which is compatible (Fenvi), try sticking to Intel but AMD is mostly fine and you are good to go. OpenCore took me about 6 hours to get up and running the first time and with the new updates I'm less than an hour. NOTE: My MB audio does NOT work with OpenCore but I used a workaround by passing the audio to my monitor and hooking my speakers up there.
Ah, finally someone appreciating Manjaro And you can install windows that way, not having to install that junk natively For example if you are only playing games on it
Manjaro is interesting, my first Arch experience (USB Live Session) Do you know if there is any GUI application (or at least an automated script in terminal that automate most steps) tool to create Custom ISO's of Manjaro? I want to build a Manjaro ISO that has all my custom applications from boot (Wine, desktop settings, mouse settings, etc) Any tools similar to MX-Snapshot, Timeshift or Remastersys?
I'm on MX right now... MX-Snapshot is particularly great because it creates a "copy" (snapshot) of your entire running system into an ISO on disk, with no memory overhead, you can even have chromium open and keep using the machine and the tool won't deplete all your free RAM like most Linux apps unfortunately do
If by simple, you mean reductionist. It's always hiding something in some menu or the other. I personally feel that gnome is beautiful, but impractical.
The quality of these DEs, macOS and Windows is at this point on a level of quality where it comes down to user preference. You really can't generalize it anymore.
Great introduction - as always! I've followed your steps and the great documentation on the Passthrough Post. I've allocated 8 GB of ram and 4 cores to the VM but still fells to un-responsive / laggy to being a real alternative to a real mac. Is it simply a question of adding enough ressources or any other tips for performance enhancements? Maybe there is a way to increase the vram for the integrated graphics I'm currently running on? (coffee lake, UHD 630 graphics).
Thanks for this video Quinn, I found it right when I'm once again seriously looking into taking my music production into the Linux world. I've probably watching this video about 8 times already. Question: do you (or anyone else) have any recommendations for a Linux distro specifically for music production? How would Manjaro do with cutting down on latency, and general compatibility with audio interfaces (FireWire or USB)?
I think Canonical have a separate, specific, audio-tuned distro called *Ubuntu Studio*, which is customised for audio production. Whilst I don’t know what they’ve done under the bonnet, it’s logical that they’ve stripped out all the non-essential chaff and concentrated on enhancing audio interface acceleration and worked on cutting out system and software latency as much as possible, given that it’s designed for running DAW’s, racks, patch bays and the like. I hope this helps, Will.
6 years linux user here. Linux has some BAD (really bad) issues with the way Memory Management was built on it (it's one of the core elements of the system that cannot be tweaked) To give one practical example: one of these days I was browsing the web, many tabs open, system ran into low memory, after some time I have noticed Pulseaudio (the entire Audio subsystem) was put into Disk Swap (pagefile)
So yeah... if an operational system that claims to be "the solid foundation on which 98% of the internet is hosted on" and another big buzz words claims that they love to brag about, if a system that claims that is okay with the decision to put your Sound system into disk pagefile, I'm sorry, that means the thing is flawed at the very core foundations of it
Not to mention that everything on Linux takes extra steps of manual labor to accomplish. Another problem with Linux currently is hardware support, for laptops for example Linux will run 10 to 15 C degrees hotter than Windows 10, less battery life (because the CPU is never allowed to rest on idle) Despite what is preached out there, Linux is terrible for AMD consumers, for Intel+Nvidia it works
Wanna make a quick test and see how linux acts on situations of memory stress? Boot up any distro ISO and load up an audio with more than 1 hour duration on any audio editor/DAW The audio will be decompressed to WAV format into RAM, any successive edits you make on it will use more RAM until you ran out and entire system freezes (lose all progress, restart from zero)
@@SebastianHaban If someone wanted to run Windows or Linux it would be a better price to make or buy a comparable Desktop. Since you can run MacOS very competently on a KVM what is the point of Mac other than getting a bitten apple?
I wish Linux gets more application support so that I can make it my daily driver. Currently, I'm learning GIMP so as to do my Photoshop work there. I don't think GIMP can fully replace it but I'll see. If you guys have any suggestions to what apps available as an alternative to Photoshop in Ubuntu, I'll be happy to know that.
Reminds me of the early 90s when Commodore Amiga computers, under emulation and with the right addons, ran MacOS, Photoshop, Corel all faster. We had Mac customers buy our suped up Amiga builds for that reason. As it was CHEAPER than a Mac as well. Plus they got two computers for the price of one.
Arch ftw, but IMO it's well past time for Clover to be laid to rest. OpenCore is here and works great. It's more logical to set up, and breaks far less often on OS updates. Also, I find it's easy enough to use virt-manager to manage your VMs, and it's still hackintosh compatible. Don't get me wrong, I've used QEMU a lot using nothing more than the command line scripts, and it's not a _bad_ way to do it, but it can be tedious when you frequently need to change stuff like disks. Also, bare metal Hackintoshing is arguably easier in a lot of cases. It's faster because you don't have any overhead, but you're also missing out on all the benefits that overhead brings. Depends if you'll take advantage of having a Linux hypervisor.
Wouldn't that mean if you use Proxmox you get a better performance since is closer to zero (less input lag)? Also do you know the motherboard and rams at 1:02 looks like he has 8 rams? I've been looking for a motherboard with 8 slots for an intel but couldn't find one... do you think for the 12gen of intel they would make them?
@@nomorenoless3273 yeah that's what I mean. I think Proxmox performs way better than the example in this video, but that's what I'm asking. As for RAM, no I have 64GB on 4 sticks.
@@Clarity-808 Good to know about that one, if in the future I'd like to have macOS, actually I wanted to know the motherboard he has at 1:02 cause I see that it can handle 8x slots of ram. As for the ram those are Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro.
Me: Waiting to hear how to configure GPU passthrough
Snazzy: Let's skip the boring part
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the arch wiki will tell u how to do that
Ever since switching to Arch I now don't make any decisions in life without consulting the wiki.
@@MaxMacZone hahaha that's hilarious
Check out some ordinary gamers. He did a tutorial on it.
yeah seems like the hard part, i just wonder if kvm-QEMU can also run windows ? And maybe like create shortcut on a desktop gui basis ? (i need a secondary low end gpu though)
I really wish Adobe would start supporting Linux again if that happened I would have zero reasons to use mac or windows ever again.
Again??? When did Adobe support Linux?
It will not happen
Im no pro graphic designer but for moderate publishing SOHO I do very well with GIMP+Inkscape on a daily basis
@@alerey4363 - try Photopea too. Worth a look. Totally browser based and runs on anything, even a Chromebook.
@@markconger8049, they did a FrameMaker beta test program many years ago.
Then: "The fastest Macintosh is an Amiga"
Now: "The fastest Mac is a Linux PC"
turns out not much has changed since then
Let's emulate modern OS in Amiga 500 with OCS! In 68000 assembler, for sure.
I still have my Amiga 500 in my attic somewhere. Love that thing. I think it was underrated in the USA back then IMO! Peace!
Well, I can remember having run a MS-Dos emulator on an Atari ST emulator. On a Amiga 1200. :D
@@dub2536 My Amiga 1200 is right beside me right now. Although, I did not turn it on for a long time.
as far as I am concerned my Linux PCs with Intel Core i7 Haswell CPUs and AMD NAVI GPU are the current pinnacle computing systems of the 21st century. I can use them to run directly, compile and run, emulate or virtualize almost any software that has ever existed. With easy use of any game controller or other input or display device, the only relevant platforms the GNU/Linux 64-bit Intel Computer is incapable of supporting or has issues with include: obscure Windows programs that don't run well in Wine or VM (most work perfectly), Online Windows games with aggressive, expertly-written anti-cheat software (weak anti-cheats can be bypassed), NVIDIA RTX Shader technology that can only be executed by the special hardware in an NVIDIA RTX GPU, and Xbox One games (the only console there is no emulator for. For PS4 games, you will have an AMD CPU not Intel, because the PS4 is completely jailbroken and when you use it as your Linux PC, it will have an AMD CPU, and you may run PS4 games on it also 😹), and the software compiled for a modern *IBM z14 MAINFRAME COMPUTER* , this large computer's CPU is more specialized and powerful for its intended software than zOS emulators on amd64 are. Beyond that, Intel and their friends the US government can spy on you using the Intel Management Engine, no matter what you do. Aside those things there is no platform better, though we shall see what Apple can do to encourage competition with ARM CPUs in the Desktop PC market..
Haha Quin talking about the Arch meme, you love to see it
Nice to see you around here 👀
Hello mate, just dual booted pop os 20.10 after your review... :)
Somebody watches NorthernLion...
BTW I use Arch (not).
Btw i use Marchjaro
Love the transparency of building your virtual macOS. Usually, I have a hard time finding tutorials not knowing where to start, this pretty much gives lots of insights with each mention of performance tweaks.
Thanks!!
@@snazzy Even ir its not a full blown out tutorial, this video leaves a great taste of mouth. I'm happy that you ventured from Pop!OS to Arch-ish. How is the community treating your questions?
9:26 Editing snafu?
lolololol
cam here to say this
i refreshed my page when i got this, then i watched it again and refreshed, 3rd time i realized it was the video and not youtube or my browser...
I thought my youtube is glitching out lol
Maybe yes, but I think he was trying to make a silly joke about two OSs running simultaneously. He makes lots of silly jokes, this one didn't work.
This is incredibly interesting. I would love a full blown tutorial on the entire set up process for this.
Want Mac like experience on Linux? There's Elementary O.S!
I found it disappointing that he skipped one of the most crucial parts which is the passthrough stuff and he said it's boring. Yes, perhaps he thought it was boring, but for noobs like myself, it's impossible to understand what he was talking about. :-(
For your own setup (and likely mine) you should consider going for a 'lite' (headless, stripped whatever you might call it) Arch based distro that is configured to basically act as a kiosk for VM. Removing the memory/resource footprint of the host means you can allocate more resources to the guest and you'll likely cut your overhead in half. A little more user expertise required but for better results all in.
how do you do dat doe
@@teletaminent_brb look up Linus Tech Tips video on running MacOS on non Mac hardware from a few years back.
Mutahar : I'm proud of you son.
Bruh
Damn, he's changing the game
Ah yes, another mutahar enjoyer. Nice to see you
Lol, just thought of muta's last video about VMs.
Muta released a video about VMs Yesterday, today, this guy. Coincidence?
He breaks down Anthony's language of Gods into one for peasants.
By skipping all the hard parts, so you have to figure it out for yourself. More of a teaser than a howto.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Haha
Can I use this with a nvidia gpu?
Does Snazzy Labs ever reply any of the comments/questions? What's the point in Subscribing if we do not get any feedback?
Quinn speaking Spanish and talking about linux.. what a great way to start my Sunday.
That was actually Italian.
@@danielcs88 no, Argentineans/Uruguayans use hands like that too..
He said "Qué vaina Ché" 😅 makes sense I believe he lived some time in South America before becoming a TH-camr.. As missionary of The Church Of Jesus Christ..
@@geogmz8277 it threw me off too lmao
“Que vaina Ché” jajajaja Quinn es el major
your tutorial is awesome, instead of having a separate Mac now I build a monster running all the OS. Thanks
I am going to assume you realised sosumi is a play on " So sue me" directed at Apple haha
Edit: As mentioned in the replies from the Beatles dispute situation
The origin traces back to the Apple VS The Beatles dispute if you don't already know.
apparently it's been removed from the snap store... the link in the description is not only broken. If you search the term sosumi on the website it wont find anything. And google or DDG dont show search results for installing sosumi without snap... Even the github page only shows the run of the mill CLI installation that does not find any package named sosumi... It's been effectively wiped off the face of the w^3
WTF, it seems, I came along a bit too late into the game.
you really shouldnt even be getting a 10-20% performance hit if youve configured it properly. it should be more like
it's likely cpu pinning. Even when you do pin the cores correctly it can be really tricky to get qemu to report the proper cache layout.
actually, ryzen perform better on linux than windows or intel like what you suppose to get 20% gains on linux since linux does actually use corectly
4:14 “Sosumi” ... now there’s a name with a long Macintosh history ...
Butt-Head Astronomer
1:00 Wait-wait-wait... did you just say I can turn my iPad Pro into a tennis racket?! That's a hidden feature! You should make a video about that!
Looks like Quinn's been watching too many videos from SomeOrdinaryGamers. Muta's obsession with VMs has rubbed off on him 👀
Hello, its me Mutahar
@@RxTitanAH everyone gangsta till he says his opening line in hindi
@@alolanstarboy One day he will have entire video in Hindi and we will all pretend we understood what is he saying in English.
*Mutahar laughing intensifies*
@@Verpal unless you're Indian like me and actually understand him 👀
I was trying to do this yesterday and you upload a tutorial today. HMMM Interest at 100% again!
Calling it "sosumi" sold me on that virtualization project on its own. Triple entendre FTW! :D
Wooow, didn't expect any Linux related content on this channel.. I'd like to see it more in the future!! :)
“Kde Plasma seems to be the most user friendly”
My how the times have changed
Well its not bad if you dont touch any settings, the settings is a minefield. Pretty mutch all other desktop environments are easier.
I dont find any desktop environments for linux friendly tbh
@@fredrik2008 with KDE the approach is usually that you follow a tutorial on youtube and just copy step by step
and it starts looking great
@@battlebuddy4517 well then you havent tried deepin or gnome.
I have xfce. Is it good?
I’ve been doing iOS development on a macOS KVM on my 3950x for about 6 months now... I’ve really impressed by the performance... I also think we could probably see a big performance increase with Zen 3.
What GPU do you use?
@@StarmanDX RX580
2 years later, but does the virtualization support OS updates flawlessly?
(Being an over 10years MacOS, and tired of buying macs for thousands of $, looking for life long alternatives 😅)
3:20 Oh snazzy! Virtualization on Intel is actually called VT-x! VT-d is a feature that allows for passthrough of pci and pci-e devices via iommu, also usefull for virtualization, but only if you want to passthough a pysical gpu instead of e.g. virtio or qxl for fully virtualized graphics (i.e. no second power succing gpu in your system, although performs worse then real one).
This is another classic Snazzy video. Dude, the level of your geekiness is unparalleled. Glad I subbed a long time ago. Now to go and get some nothing done. 😉
Manjaro linux? Wise choice sir.
It will break, eventually. And if they are not apt with Linux they can't fix it.
@@ashishdeharia9137 That's only if you're a power user, in my experience the only time my Manjaro Gnome 20.04 system has only broken when I try to do something that pretty much only a hardcore developer would do. But I don't know how you have used Linux so maybe it does break for you.
In my experience, the Debian KVM is slightly more stable than manjaro but for everything else Manjaro is better
@ateb3 I'm more pacman with Linux
@ateb3 I use btwOS
Wow, nice, that you switched to Manjaro.
Due to this video, I found you again after not watching your videos for years.
Absolute banger of a video! In a sea of Notepad tutorials, MovieMaker transitions and cringy EDM music, yours are what I would describe as the highest standard of instructional video. Heh, the connoisseur's choice in tutorials. You're literally putting others to shame. Well done, Quinn! You're a treasure!
Point 1 3:10 It will work well on a core 2 duo and above. If you investigate foxlet's script, he has listed the processor as a C2D. So anything with Westmere and above will work just fine.
Point 2 Import it to Virtual Machine Manager if you are not comfortable with the terminal.
Point 3 You can do a passthrough before the install modify the ram and do all sorts of things before the install. Either modify the scripts or rogue stuff through the virtual machine manager in Foxlet's script.
Point 4: 2-5% hits common. VMWare and virtualbox but 20%. I haven't seen the KVMmanager eatmore than 5%.
3:42 a wild Mutahar appears
Oh yeah
Nice “HD Music” browser icon;)
hahahahaha
I've been using this since I built my rig for things that can only be done on macOS (and some Safari testing). It is awesome. Sadly, I have GTX 1080 Ti so I am stuck on High Sierra. And honestly, it is better than a Hackintosh, simply because of the outstanding features Linux sports on the disk management side (you can use ZFS with compression, encryption, snapshots for example, plus it has great caching capabilities if you have lots of RAM). Even if you needed to run macOS full-time, you can set it up in Linux so that it starts the VM on your display output by default. There is very little difference from a Hackintosh at that point and you get it on a standardized set of hardware (Qemu and all it provides)
Talk about timely. I think this gave me the last piece of the puzzle I needed to migrate my work mac to a VM.
Love the chaturbate logo @ 10:44 that says HD Music below it lmao
Lmao noticed it too
I had the simplest and most successful experience recently with "macOS-Simple-KVM". I run it on WSL in Win10 with VirtualBox. after some basic configuration - it works like a charm.
10:43 Nice Chaturbate icon in your favorites there, mate.
From a separate comment: Odd. It was a site I used to (erm, semi-illegally) acquire DSD music download rips from Blu-ray audio disks when I couldn't find them legally. Seems the URL is dead and now redirects somewhere different every time you click the link. Safari must have auto-snagged the favicon from one of the times it redirected to somewhere sus. I've clicked it 4 times in the last 5 minutes and it went to a Spotify playlist, CNN, a "buy this domain" page, and another page that tried to have Safari download something. Would not recommend visiting for obvious reasons but for those curious: hdmusic.biz/
@@snazzy We've all heard that one before.
@@S-early-user lol
Great JLC Reverso!
1 - I noticed that recently, so many Tech TH-camrs became mechanical watches collectors. Did you notice that trend?
2 - Please make a SOTC 2020 (no tech-related, but very cool nevertheless).
9:26 nice editing
Watching enjoyment of Quinn's videos - 100%
Understanding of Quinn's videos - 0%
Rock on!
“The apple pippin, the best product ever made” LMFAO
Glad I caught that, too. Just watched the LTT video showcasing the Pippin today.
Also: "You'll find yourself Googling tutorials on how to turn the iPad Pro into a tennis racket."
Nice.
Wow, this is great if you are the ultimate Mac and Linux wizard. Thinking about building a Hackintosh, but after seeing this, I may end up buying the iMac 24.
Quinn: "Here's how to run MacOS under Linux"
Me: "Why? Everything I do for free in Linux costs money in MacOS!"
Ten years ago the MacOS version of an app was highly polished and perfected whilst the Linux version was rather rough around the edges - now its quite the other way around but now you're expect to hand over $25 for what is a free app on other Linux or even Windows.
@Marc T It's because the Mac has gotten worse.
...because I have accumulated over 10K dollars worth of software on the Mac that meets my needs, but am using it on a computer with a small screen that needs to be replaced due to failing components and Apple doesn't make 17" screens anymore for portables and doesn't make repairable upgradable computers anymore. Even a battery replacement for a Mac costs over $300. That's stupid.
Here's something that wasn't mentioned within the video. The hard drive is out of the box set with a specific amount of space (can't remember how much), but you can easily give it more space by doing the following. Close the sosumi window as soon as it opens without playing around with anything. Open up a terminal & cd into the sosumi folder containg the VM image "cd ~/snap/sosumi/common/". Finally resize the image using the following command "qemu.img resize macos.qcow2 +44G". Just change 44G to whatever size you wish. When done open up sosumi again & proceed with everything as normal. This only works if you do it first things. if you've already installed or played around with the vm it'l not work so make sure to do it first if you want more hard drive space....
I've started with Xubuntu and now on this new laptop I'm on MX Linux (Debian base) But Linux has been having too many problems with Hardware, mainly temperatures 10 to 15 degrees Celsius higher than on Windows 10. Do you know if MacOS (Hackintosh) allows me to run from USB like Linux does? (avoid writes on SSD as much as possible)
0:54 “You’ll find yourself googling tutorials on how to turn your iPad Pro into a tennis racket.”
Listen, after Mr. Mobile turned his LG Wing into a ping pong paddle, I just had to know how I could make my iPad into a tennis racket.
My personal iPad experience makes me want to turn it into a frisbee. Though to be fair in only half of the cases it's the iPad's fault being not having enough RAM and not fast enough storage. The other half being the homebrew apps from my employer, Boeing and the security authentication related to them.
Manjaro team rocks. They've really hit the magic spot between giving users all the configurability of linux a la Arch and the user experience somebody moving to Linux from Windows would expect. Also, I've found ManjaroARM to be the best running distro on Raspberry Pi 4 (better than their own OS or the ubuntu that's still nowhere near Manjaro, after a year of trying).
Hey, when are we getting the DIY turn your iPad pro into a tennis racket tutorial?
Awesome job on that! Love the little side "undesirables" bit haha. While I've not dabbled with Linux but have tried a Hackintosh, this seems interesting to try.
You can use VirtManager so you can configure a QEMU/KVM easier
He's an Arch Linux Chad. GUIs are for the weak
XD
Could the KVM macOS script have something to do with why VirtManager wasn’t used here?
@@SebastianHaban cli gang
Quinn messes with Arch? Mad respect. This guy is the real deal.
Funny thing, on my Catalina Mac, I actually sometimes run Mojave in Fusion so I can use an occassional 32-bit app.
All of my Mac OS game stopped working when I upgraded to Catalina, so I'm in the same boat.
For me, FreeBSD, Linux and Windows run at about 95% of native performance on Fusion. MacOS runs at about 2% of native performance 😢.
@@katrinabryce are you sure you have the cores and ram set up correctly? I don't have that problem.
@@flammablewater1755 you can still downgrade
Ah... yeah... I forgot about that problem... MacOS dropped support for 32-bit, didn't it? So that means I would not be able to play my old retro games. Shame... Well, but 32-bit applications would still work inside of Wine, correct? Can anyone confirm? I can't live without my Simcity 3000 LOL
"It works best on Arch". Is anyone surprised by that? :D I was the guy who said: "Arch is easy to install if you know a few little things", it is true, it really is not difficult.
A cool project, Snazzy Labs.
"if you didn't send it to somebody you don't like" That is the confidence I would like to see more of, here take this 100 internet point.
A comma after "didn't" would really help to make it more understandable, otherwise it can all be one clause.
@@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 know that i reed it agein you are right. thank you really much.
Thanks for making this vid, waiting to see this type of stuff more from you man
Found this in an article explaining how to setup sosumi: "It's worth noting from the start that Apple doesn't allow installing macOS on non-Apple hardware, so to use this legally you must have Linux installed on Apple hardware." I guess that's where it gets it's name from.
This needs to get more attention.
The message on iMessage "Coldwar sucks.." lol! i couldn't agree more..
Meh should've just watched Linus' video before doing this. And also should've configured cpu allocation before Mac OS installation. That's the clean way I follow
Can you share which Linus video you refer to? I’m in a pinch with a dead Macbook Pro and need to get a temp solution together. Thanks.
I‘m also interested 👋🏻
Plz link that shit down.
thats the one. Seems to work on almost every laptop and PC that i have tried. But will work great with CPUs after 2014
@@markconger8049 they use Opencore. check them out.
3:22 No, you will find it listed as VT-x or Intel Virtualization not as VT-d this feature does exist and allows for pci-e passthrough so your hypervisor (the software that allows you to run a virtual machine) can address real hardware from a virtual machine. For instance a real graphics card.
11:00 Send it to somebody you don't like🤣🤣🤣
I gave this video a like. I love Manjaro KDE. I also love Arch running KDE. I wish I could KDE all the things...
if I'm never going to do this builds, why do I love so much watching these kind of videos? :v
Thanks. I wanted a 'back up' in case my mac mini ever failed. The Russkie ladys instuctions were hard to follow but I use the "simpleKVM" and got a back up for my mac mini as a VM. It also helped me with (play learn) the Clover software, may take another stab at a hackintosh.
This is soooo cool. I may want to try this on my 2012 Mac Pro, which can't run Catalina (because Apple ⚡⛈️☄️🔥🌊). So, I install Linux, then run Catalina (and later Big Sur) as a VM. Sweet.
Amazing! Never thought I'd be finish watching this video!
_”Qué vaina, che!”_
Quinn, are you ok?
*Aquí no hablamos esas lenguas prohibidas...*
Muchos no saben que el hablá Español. 😅
I installed Manjaro and loved it so much I just use that ATM. I will eventually get to the VMs.
Audio desync around 9:30 oof
Because it's a different video haha
@@obeardedonehd7806 exactly voice over a different video
Might be a clip from a different take that was supposed to be cut off
It's a video in a video, don't cha know meta bro ?
Hehe! That was a great video. So the Hackintosh fever isn't gone. Great to see this!
I thought on AMD virtualization is labelled as SVM in the bios
Edit - It is on mine.
The basic virtualization technology is know as AMD-V but, yes, it's often (though not necessarily always) referred to as SVM (secure virtual machine) in the BIOS and by default it is usually disabled. To pass though PCIe-connected hardware for use by the VM you also need another technology, known as AMD-Vi, and generically as IOMMU, to be enabled. The default BIOS setting for IOMMU is often "Auto", which I suppose means that it's enabled, though I prefer to set it explicitly to "Enabled".
Yeah, mine is Gigabyte also called SVM. Thanks for that info
Love the disclaimer with the visuals from - most likely - ED ads listing the life-threatening "side" effects of their product.
Next up this AMD 3990x runs Windows, Linux and MacOS at the same time while being faster then the mac pro :P
bonus points if you can get a BSD in there
As always giving us great and unique content 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This is the only way you should use Mac OS or Windows.
Some games any-cheat detect that you run in a VM. That’s the only thing that might hold me from doing this when I build my next computer. I’ll probably do like this anyway and have windows dual boot for those few games, if I can be bothered.
@@PatrikKron theres configs that help with that,the only games unworkable are valorant.
@@ananon5771 and Battleye
@@dustojnikhummer battle eye can be worked around
Not necessarily, there are many applications which still do not have equally capable alternatives. While most applications are fine, I shouldn't have to start a VM to run Photoshop. And no, GIMP just isn't there yet.
This is coming from someone who daily drove Linux for 6 years , and actively maintains Linux servers. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux, but some of the apps I use require Windows.
Watching this on an AMD PC running MacOS with OpenCore. OpenCore is tricky at first but sooo worth it.
I'll add that I tried virtualization and it was a nightmare. The passthrough docs were entirely dependant on which distro of linux you used, also which method the poster used and never worked for me. Also, what Snazzy Labs didn't point out which was clear in the video is you need two graphics cards. I bought a Radeon 580 to supplement my Nvidia 1070 Super and I still couldn't get it to work. It's also important to note that your motherboard is essential in its ability to assign (forget the exact terms) dedicated paths for the passthrough. IMO, just run MacOS natively with OpenCore, make sure you buy a WiFi/Bluetooth card off Amazon which is compatible (Fenvi), try sticking to Intel but AMD is mostly fine and you are good to go. OpenCore took me about 6 hours to get up and running the first time and with the new updates I'm less than an hour. NOTE: My MB audio does NOT work with OpenCore but I used a workaround by passing the audio to my monitor and hooking my speakers up there.
Imagine downgrading from Manjaro to Macos
i wouldnt say dow grading more like forced to use macos to develop apps but youre too cheap to buy a mac
This is right up my alley because I have incompatible hardware atm.
_“KDE Plasma,”_
OMG 😱 I’m agreeing with snazzy...
*curse you 2020!!*
As always, quality videos right here!
Ah, finally someone appreciating Manjaro
And you can install windows that way, not having to install that junk natively
For example if you are only playing games on it
Hallo
Manjaro is interesting, my first Arch experience (USB Live Session)
Do you know if there is any GUI application (or at least an automated script in terminal that automate most steps) tool to create Custom ISO's of Manjaro? I want to build a Manjaro ISO that has all my custom applications from boot (Wine, desktop settings, mouse settings, etc) Any tools similar to MX-Snapshot, Timeshift or Remastersys?
I'm on MX right now... MX-Snapshot is particularly great because it creates a "copy" (snapshot) of your entire running system into an ISO on disk, with no memory overhead, you can even have chromium open and keep using the machine and the tool won't deplete all your free RAM like most Linux apps unfortunately do
Kick ass video, although I don't do this type of thing often, this is awesome.
I am a Linux user and I use kde but I think that gnome's semplicity makes that DE the most user-friendly (that's my opinion btw)
If by simple, you mean reductionist. It's always hiding something in some menu or the other.
I personally feel that gnome is beautiful, but impractical.
Not if you're used to Windows. Plus GNOME is U G L Y. It ain't got no alibi.
The quality of these DEs, macOS and Windows is at this point on a level of quality where it comes down to user preference. You really can't generalize it anymore.
Every DE is pretty good at this point. Just pick the one with the features you like.
@@mihirmutalikdesai Thank you! I can't stand GNOME on a laptop. It's better for me in a desktop but for some reason on a laptop I hate it.
The writing style for this video is refreshing
hwwwelo guis and gurls
Me mudahar and today we're installing a VM on arch linux
Love the disclaimer, LOL good stuff!
Great introduction - as always! I've followed your steps and the great documentation on the Passthrough Post. I've allocated 8 GB of ram and 4 cores to the VM but still fells to un-responsive / laggy to being a real alternative to a real mac. Is it simply a question of adding enough ressources or any other tips for performance enhancements? Maybe there is a way to increase the vram for the integrated graphics I'm currently running on? (coffee lake, UHD 630 graphics).
I can't believe I finished watching the video but. You are epic.
Thanks for this video Quinn, I found it right when I'm once again seriously looking into taking my music production into the Linux world. I've probably watching this video about 8 times already.
Question: do you (or anyone else) have any recommendations for a Linux distro specifically for music production? How would Manjaro do with cutting down on latency, and general compatibility with audio interfaces (FireWire or USB)?
I think Canonical have a separate, specific, audio-tuned distro called *Ubuntu Studio*, which is customised for audio production.
Whilst I don’t know what they’ve done under the bonnet, it’s logical that they’ve stripped out all the non-essential chaff and concentrated on enhancing audio interface acceleration and worked on cutting out system and software latency as much as possible, given that it’s designed for running DAW’s, racks, patch bays and the like.
I hope this helps, Will.
6 years linux user here. Linux has some BAD (really bad) issues with the way Memory Management was built on it (it's one of the core elements of the system that cannot be tweaked) To give one practical example: one of these days I was browsing the web, many tabs open, system ran into low memory, after some time I have noticed Pulseaudio (the entire Audio subsystem) was put into Disk Swap (pagefile)
So yeah... if an operational system that claims to be "the solid foundation on which 98% of the internet is hosted on" and another big buzz words claims that they love to brag about, if a system that claims that is okay with the decision to put your Sound system into disk pagefile, I'm sorry, that means the thing is flawed at the very core foundations of it
Not to mention that everything on Linux takes extra steps of manual labor to accomplish.
Another problem with Linux currently is hardware support, for laptops for example Linux will run 10 to 15 C degrees hotter than Windows 10, less battery life (because the CPU is never allowed to rest on idle) Despite what is preached out there, Linux is terrible for AMD consumers, for Intel+Nvidia it works
Wanna make a quick test and see how linux acts on situations of memory stress?
Boot up any distro ISO and load up an audio with more than 1 hour duration on any audio editor/DAW
The audio will be decompressed to WAV format into RAM, any successive edits you make on it will use more RAM until you ran out and entire system freezes (lose all progress, restart from zero)
On Gigabyte Motherboards the Virtualization setting for AMD CPUs is called SVM (for anyone having trouble figuring it out)
Mac: Runs MacOS
PC: Everything Else.... plus MacOS
You know you can run Windows or Linux on a Mac as well, right?
@@SebastianHaban If someone wanted to run Windows or Linux it would be a better price to make or buy a comparable Desktop. Since you can run MacOS very competently on a KVM what is the point of Mac other than getting a bitten apple?
@@SebastianHaban yes you can, but you wont get 4 times the performance for your money.
@@SebastianHaban LOL. PC user bragging about the number of OSes he can run XD _The denial is strong_
This will probably be my future setup. I was looking at doing something like this last year.
Suspicious MKBHD promotion at 4:52
yeah dont watch his crap channel!
@@PixelVogue what the hell do you mean MKBHD is one of the best tech reviewer heck he even made a video with snazzy lab
@@Lilbigdick each to their own, i find Snazzys video's are my cup of tea
@@PixelVogue oh ok
Great content - think about virtualizing my old mac on my Windows machine
I can hear Mutahar screaming in the distance.
Great as always. Did you check out Proxintosh virtualization?
I wish Linux gets more application support so that I can make it my daily driver. Currently, I'm learning GIMP so as to do my Photoshop work there. I don't think GIMP can fully replace it but I'll see. If you guys have any suggestions to what apps available as an alternative to Photoshop in Ubuntu, I'll be happy to know that.
This helped clarify this so much! Thanks
10:44 HD Music
Reminds me of the early 90s when Commodore Amiga computers, under emulation and with the right addons, ran MacOS, Photoshop, Corel all faster. We had Mac customers buy our suped up Amiga builds for that reason. As it was CHEAPER than a Mac as well. Plus they got two computers for the price of one.
Arch ftw, but IMO it's well past time for Clover to be laid to rest. OpenCore is here and works great. It's more logical to set up, and breaks far less often on OS updates.
Also, I find it's easy enough to use virt-manager to manage your VMs, and it's still hackintosh compatible. Don't get me wrong, I've used QEMU a lot using nothing more than the command line scripts, and it's not a _bad_ way to do it, but it can be tedious when you frequently need to change stuff like disks.
Also, bare metal Hackintoshing is arguably easier in a lot of cases. It's faster because you don't have any overhead, but you're also missing out on all the benefits that overhead brings. Depends if you'll take advantage of having a Linux hypervisor.
As a former Mac OS X user and current Linux one... this makes me happy.
10-20% sounds like a big performance hit. Aren't there VM solutions that have a close-to-zero performance hit, like Proxmox?
Wouldn't that mean if you use Proxmox you get a better performance since is closer to zero (less input lag)? Also do you know the motherboard and rams at 1:02 looks like he has 8 rams? I've been looking for a motherboard with 8 slots for an intel but couldn't find one... do you think for the 12gen of intel they would make them?
@@nomorenoless3273 yeah that's what I mean. I think Proxmox performs way better than the example in this video, but that's what I'm asking.
As for RAM, no I have 64GB on 4 sticks.
@@Clarity-808 Good to know about that one, if in the future I'd like to have macOS, actually I wanted to know the motherboard he has at 1:02 cause I see that it can handle 8x slots of ram. As for the ram those are Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro.
Now this is the type of content I can get behind ✊