"Maybe I didn't clean you, Quite as often as I should have. Every time I left, I kept you in the dark, but that was because I kept you in my pocket by my side. Pen I'm sorry you were blind, but you were always by my side."
Such a shame your cleaner didn't come with more thorough instructions! Technical pens are fiddly partly because they're still using gravity/capillary-feed designs from the 50s, partly because they are meant as precision instruments, so the tolerances are very tight, maybe even tighter than with fountain pens. Tech pen inks also tend to have more particulates vs. fountain pen inks, for improved contrast and light-fastness (since they're meant to draw blueprints and such) which will clog up those tight ink passages. Ultrasonics are definitely meant to do the detailed work a brush or just flushing cleaning fluid through the pens can't. You'll get the best result from it by cleaning as much as you can by hand, then running the delicate nibs and feeds through a cycle, rinsing them to knock out what the ultrasonic manages to knock loose, then running cycles again. You switch out the fluid whenever you wanna see if it's doing any more work- if it stays clear, then it's not pulling anything off the pens. The heater is just for parts that are all-metal and really gunked up, like jewelry and mechanical bits from clocks and the like, so steer clear from it. Also keep in mind that the cleaning action will indeed only work when the parts are submerged and in contact with the liquid (so if a big air bubble is trapped in an empty cartridge, the cleaner can't do any work there) Usually technical pens have some basic care tips, mostly just storing them flat and capped. The companies sell special cleaning fluids, but they're often just a mix of water, soap, and a solvent commonly found in a pharmacy or grocery store. Since that's expensive, people often just use Isopropyl Alcohol or even plain water to soak the pens overnight, which softens inks and makes them easier to flush out or clean with the ultrasonic machine. And just for fun, you don't NEED to have the lid on the cleaner, especially when you're using regular fluid and not heating it. I only mention this because I think watching it work is very cool. (and a little bit disgusting if you watch it clean a bunch of coins, a pair of glasses, etc.)
Oooh, cleaning glasses. That's a good idea.. Idk what else I'd use an ultrasonic cleaner for lol. But glasses.. I have a very oily nose. My nose pads have seen better days lol
My favourite part of the process! I clean my fountain pens with my ultrasonic and I can never, NEVER switch it on and go off to do something else, I always am stuck there looking at the gunk coming up as smoke. Hours of fun.
Ultrasonic is how I clean my technical pens and fountain pen tips. It works amazingly. Works great on dirty glass, too :P You look JUST like a pen scientist in this video.
Instead of the full bath sized cleaning vessel, I would put a small jar (beaker, jam jar) of pen cleaner into the vessel and then fill the vessel with plain water. I think pen cleaner is better than ultrasonic cleaner for dried ink.
If you have really blocked up nibs, disassemble them totally and soak them in the cleaning solution mix overnight. I've actually soaked a couple of my pens for 2 days. No adverse effects and then a few cycles in the ultrasonic cleaner. Same for fountain pens but don't soak ebonite feeds for very long. Plastic feeds are fine for long soaks.
Eh, you can do just fine with warm water and a couple >drops< of liquid dish soap. The bottled ultrasonic cleaners are a scam unless you're trying to do real stubborn de-greasing or carbon removal (like for car parts). Good on ye for finally getting an ultrasonic. They're great for cleaning glasses and jewelry and fountain pens (and gun parts).
May I make a suggestion? 400ml water to 40ml of solution. (isn't that 10 to 1?) Clean one pen only. Use heat. Try 1 hour. I think the heat actually makes the solution work better. 1 hour? 2 hours? 3hours? But try only one stuck pen. I used these when I did mechanical drawing and it takes longer than you think for the ultrasonic cleaner to work. But, they do work. Metal will not break down, but the dried ink eventually will break apart inside the needle.
For ink, try a polar solvent like isopropyl alcohol or acetone. Put the tips in a plastic zip bag, fill halfway with solvent, zip it up, float it in the reservoir filled with water, buzz it, and it should work better than the detergent based product you were using.
Many acrylics can be damaged by alcohol! I know TWSBI, for sure, as well as maybe some other pen manufacturers, specifically state on their products to NOT use alcohol to clean them! And depending on what kind of polymer is used in the acrylic, acetone can literally dissolve it!
Just some advice to rinse the pens with clean water after taking them out of the bath. You dont want any of the detergent residue lingering around mixing with the ink!
I work with other kinds of reusable pens and I try to remember to toss the bits into a tub of water or cleaner at the end of the day. They tend to clean up easier in the morning. :-) Leaving them clogged for a long time seems to be increasing the chances of permanent failure.
I have a rotring "tintenkuli" piston filler from around the 50s. When I got it, it was like your pens. Neglected with dried up ink in it. Rinsed it, brushed it with a toothbrush, put warm (not hot!) Water in a bowl with a few drops of dishcleaner, let it sit overnight, next day I dropped it in my ultrasonic cleaner with just clean water for 10 minutes. Disassembled it (it was stuck before), rinsed and brushed again, USC again and rinsed it one final time. Works like new! The anatomy of these pens is different, thus you have to clean it regularly. I rinse it now every week and it never stops working. Clean your tools, buddy!
5 minutes? I usually run mine in the ultrasonic for about 5 hours! Seriously! 😆 I buy vintage pens on eBay and restore them. I use koh-I-noor cleaning solution and totally disassemble each nib. Ya kinda have to do that. Love the drawings and the point .35 is definitely working for you. 🥰
And with fewer items and keep the fluid in clean and clear if possible. Don't give up on those pens Peter, keep cleaning them. Persistence is the key. Much love & *Virtual hugs* from Perth Western Australia xxx
@@peter_draws Knives are not banned on TH-cam. If they decide you're "glamorizing violence" they can ban you, but there are still plenty of channels about knives here.
Usually a mixing ratio 4:1, 10:1, etc, the first number denotes the parts of solution or chemical and the second number denotes the parts of whatever you are using to dilute it with. Unless it specifically states it backwards. At least that is how it is with paint mixing ratios.
Well Peter I used Rotring's in my High School Drafting class and I ALWAYS cleaned the pen I choose before I started inking my drawing. I cleaned at the sink with water and a brush flushing it as best as I could before going to the UltraSonic cleaner. Placing the pens without the body nor ink chambers, Basically the Nib Assembly, into the cleaner filled with new cleaning solution. The teacher had a mixture ready-made for ease of use for the students. Most of the time this worked great! I believe that if you get a routine down and stick to it with your mechanical pens they will preform consistently well. I knew a draftsman, who once he used his Iso-graph pens he emptied them of ink and set them to soak in distilled water overnight, used the UltraSonic cleaner in the morning, dried the pens and set them aside ready for the next time he would fill them with ink and set about using them for his work. I know this is a lot of work just to keep a pen working, but if you want the reliability of the mechanical pens, you need to treat them right. Phew!~ That was a load! I hope you have much success and better results now that you have the cleaner. I look forward to your next drawing video!
I tried cleaning my clogged 0.2mm Rotring pen and some fountain pens by putting it in a half a cup of water and microwave it for at least 45 sec. for some reason it worked.
the dramatic lighting is so pleasing to my eyes. i took a few screenshots for future light studies in the least creepiest way possible... adding them to my "maybe one day it will inspire me" folder
Great fun. Next time, delve a little deeper and disassemble completely - some of the pens even have a hidden socket to unscrew them with. You can then remove the hair-thin rod inside the nib. You have to be super careful with the really fine ones but you can then clean all the ink out of the tube - which is the bit that will be blocked. Works almost every time and is very satisfying :)
I have used a ultrasonic cleaner to clean Koh-I-Noor technical pens. However, it required a full disassembly to get them back to life. If the "needle" is stuck barrel. Try one 5 min cycle in the ultrasonic cleaner. Then, fully disassemble. I only use dawn dish soap though.
I live in India I haven't really bought expensive pens But i love a specific pen, Trimax It's pretty cheap 45 rupees (roughly 70 rupees=1 us dollar) And the refill is cheaper 15 rupees Idk why but the refill comes with a whole cap And it feels better in hand Seems like a win win Its fun to use see-through use and throw pens
Hi Peter, I personally don’t have the patience to deal with tools that take too much maintenance and fiddling to keep them doing their intended tasks. A wee bit of hands on, like filling a fountain pen and the occasional flush is part of the experience, but the Rotring technical pens are too much if you ask me. Kind of like a Porsche Carrara GT, an absolutely stunning super car that is an aesthetic and technical marvel but has a $50,000 clutch that will be quickly useless if you don’t disengage the clutch just so. Ruins the experience.
We used an industrial sized ultra sonic cleaning machine to clean filters that we used on a Helium-3 dewar. That thing could clean anything bigger than Helium (2 atoms wide!!!!!) off our metal filter. If I still worked at that lab I'd offer to try putting a pen in that industrial sized machine for you. I bet the pens would be good as new!
Peter in a lab coat is basically one evil pharmacist from Drusselstine... If I had a nickel for every time I think of Peter as a hilarious (but more successful) parallel to Dr Heinz Doofenshmirtz, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Any tiny needle is going to be hard to clean. I had one that took me a great while to get working again. You take the good with the bad with these pens.
I think the mad scientist outfit just need a head lamp or one if those Jeweler magnifier things that flips down over one eye. Thank for the smile as always!❤
I love that drawing. School is already being planned out for you. Just put the time and work in and you got it man. You're in your 30's, you know it's ok to ask questions and be openminded too them.
I quite like the first drawing. It has a lot of directional energy confined within it. I think that the Rotrings are like the thoroughbreds of the drawing world, and need mollycoddling from the moment they leave the art supplies shop. I'm sure the ultrasonic bath will have done a lot of good, though.
I have a complete set of Rotring and Koh i Noor pens I've had for years. They're in perfect condition. The difference is that I clean each pen every time I use it and store it until the next time, this involves taking the pen apart and rinsing it in Rotring cleaning solution or Rapido-eze, rinsing it out and drying it. I've never stored any of my pens with ink in them for any length of time and would expect this to cause issues, especially with the smaller nib sizes. That said, I've read articles claiming pens that suffered this indignity could be recovered by soaking in alcohol and various other solutions, depending upon the severity of the hardened ink I imagine, ultrasonic cleaners are a relatively new addition. Maybe if the pen is being used every day or two you can get away with storing ink in them, obviously once it's forgotten about disaster occurs.
Have only one fountain pen currently. Ink it came with seems really good at not drying to pen itself. But I’d imagine most simple solution would be knowing what the ink is soluble in (alcohol based, water based, ect) and just dipping pen into that to dissolve ink.
Peter. That second drawing with the circle around the guy, is fucking awesome. Something about it hits me just right, it mixes your style of black and white inking, large black areas, doodling, and fantasy and I love it. I wish you would scan this so I can make it my phone background, I like it that much. Thanks for inspiring me so much peter keep up the good work.
I don't think you should not use the ultrasonic cleaner with product & pens, just keep doing it in smaller batches as u said that you thought it could be the number of things being cleaned in one given load. I reckon those gummed up pens will come back to being useful pens if you persist imh. Love from Perth Western Australia xxx
Dude don't be dense, you should rinse the pens thoroughly before placing in machine, better disassembly and clean fluid would definitely help as well. Secondly, you can run the Heater to around 38C with no chance of damage. In all, this was a pretty pathetic attempt to use the machine. It really could have bought most of your pens back if you actually tried.
you said you wish you could oil your pens - noodler's makes lubricated inks for fountain pens, and probably other companies do too, but i know from noodler's anything with the word "eel" in the name is lubricated, and some that don't have eel in the name too
In my experience, those ultrasonic cleaners are just slightly better than soaking in regular soapy water. I wonder if you could push some cleaning solution through the Rotring nib like how you push it through a fountain pen with the converter.
Where ultrasonic cleaners excel is getting in small passageways. I clean carburetor parts in mine and they work good as new and I'm talking ones from the 60s and 70s
I have given up on my Rotring Isographs because they let me down constantly. I moved to Faber Castell TG1-s and have had no issues at all. They don't seem to dry out and block up like the Rotrings
Anytime i've seen pros use ultrasonics for electronics or jewelry they set the timers for hours. I'm interested in this too... I too bought Rotring white ink :[
it's probably more important to clean them regularly rather than letting them sit clogged for a long time, but i don't blame you at all - i do the exact same thing even with my expensive fountain pens. i could never fault someone else for something i do myself.
Basic chemistry, you have to give the chemicals a little Splish Splash when you pour from their jugs. It helps loosen up any innate aggressions that the molecules might be holding on to.
It's no more toxic than strong cleaners like simple green or 409 and it can go down the drain. I use straight simple green in my ultrasonic cleaner and it works beautifully for small parts and is much cheaper
Apparently the Platinum Brand "Carbon Ink" works perfectly fine in my Rotring .35 Tech pen (Isograph) ............ no issues detected!!.......... which is a good thing, since rotring and others charge a criminal sum for their ink!
Ultrasonic cleaner was one of my best investments. I have many vintage and newer fountain pens, and except for the hard rubber ones, ultrasonic cleaners work to get all the old ink out, and even clean up brightwork. I have an older Osmiroid 75 that came to me plugged with the India ink the previous owner used in it. Took multiple runs of the ultrasonic cleaner and dilute Koh I Noor technical pen cleaner, but I finally got it all out. Worked great for an almost 90 year old Esterbrook nib unit, too. Just bubbled out whatever was plugging it.😁 I've even gotten ink out of a poorly designed Wing Sung feed that I thought was permanently stained. (The 3008 with the Lamy style nibs, the feeds are pretty rough.) The key is "first, do no harm." Start on the lowest setting and time, bumping up as needed. (It took about a week for the Osmiroid, running my definitely cheaper cleaner off and on about 5x a day, leaving the pen soaking, and using the longest time setting.) As to discoloration of an ebonite feed: it's got to be quite old, and have been exposed to heat and other things that are pretty rough on older pens. The 90ish year old Esterbrook nib didn't discolour in the least, and it took a while to get it working again, soaking and running the cleaner. It's the outside that tends to get discoloured...
Make your self YOUR ULTRA SONIC CLEANER. IT IS ONE PART AMONIA ( WINDOW CLEANER ) AND 10 PART distilled ( preferably ) water. Then run the cleaner more longer . It never damages in any way. Some use it leaving over-night. I and corrosions t is not a fast process. Very slow and time consuming way to remove Gunk and corrosions by VIBRATION FREQUENCIES. Pre wash the pen parts or even soak in sopy water over night for very gunky pens. If you can use a soft soothe brush to eliminate as much as you can by doing manually and the wash off the part and put in the Ultra sonic machine. You very fast or different results. Ultrasonic cleaning is done on Gem stones and fine jewelries like gold and silver too. (They use some natural soapy organic nuts based on a tree. ) well known to the jewel smiths. Some times using a ULTRA HIGH FREQUENCY HERTZ for a longer time will help. Cleaning more Gunk of pen and corrosion is easily done.
i bought a Isograph .30 around ten months ago and i love it! It didnt take a month before i figured out these are high maintenance. Im using it at least 4~5 days a week(8-10+ hr a day) and it was getting clogged everyday! I thought maybe the ink and paper fibers were working their was up the nib and causing the ink to not flow as well...? But i think its just the ink drying and thickening clogging the tip. So I started FULLY disassembling the nib and cleaning it at least once a month. And before every ink refill i rinse the nib under warm water and drain any water before refilling. Seems to help keeping them working very well. Im pretty sure the direction even say keep it clean but who reads those. Lol And something else Ive notice about this pen and ink. If you shake the pen a lot , the ink gets foamy, which might cause flow issues, so i try not to shake it a lot. I do like these rOtring pens a lot! I just bought two .20 today cant wait to try them with some different colors. Though i might need a magnifier to see my lines. -_-
Yea... but they kind of give you a bonus perk : +3 in precision lolol. I don't know why but I always enjoyed watching you more drawing with those pens so I think the effort was worth the shot! :) and probably long overdue ;) I figure that the only way to keep them in shape would be to always use them and prevent clean them.... which is kindof a pain in the a** indeed lol
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I completely read this as something else first glance
Same >_< lol
Yep
I can answer that question for u if u like ?
everyone
Lollipops
saying that i misread the title is an understatement
Facts
Same looool
yes, I read "shave" too :D
Me too LOL!!
using a exclamation mark with the word pens is a recipe for dyslexic disaster
welll... or a genious clickbait
"Maybe I didn't clean you, Quite as often as I should have. Every time I left, I kept you in the dark, but that was because I kept you in my pocket by my side. Pen I'm sorry you were blind, but you were always by my side."
Such a shame your cleaner didn't come with more thorough instructions! Technical pens are fiddly partly because they're still using gravity/capillary-feed designs from the 50s, partly because they are meant as precision instruments, so the tolerances are very tight, maybe even tighter than with fountain pens. Tech pen inks also tend to have more particulates vs. fountain pen inks, for improved contrast and light-fastness (since they're meant to draw blueprints and such) which will clog up those tight ink passages.
Ultrasonics are definitely meant to do the detailed work a brush or just flushing cleaning fluid through the pens can't. You'll get the best result from it by cleaning as much as you can by hand, then running the delicate nibs and feeds through a cycle, rinsing them to knock out what the ultrasonic manages to knock loose, then running cycles again. You switch out the fluid whenever you wanna see if it's doing any more work- if it stays clear, then it's not pulling anything off the pens. The heater is just for parts that are all-metal and really gunked up, like jewelry and mechanical bits from clocks and the like, so steer clear from it. Also keep in mind that the cleaning action will indeed only work when the parts are submerged and in contact with the liquid (so if a big air bubble is trapped in an empty cartridge, the cleaner can't do any work there)
Usually technical pens have some basic care tips, mostly just storing them flat and capped. The companies sell special cleaning fluids, but they're often just a mix of water, soap, and a solvent commonly found in a pharmacy or grocery store. Since that's expensive, people often just use Isopropyl Alcohol or even plain water to soak the pens overnight, which softens inks and makes them easier to flush out or clean with the ultrasonic machine.
And just for fun, you don't NEED to have the lid on the cleaner, especially when you're using regular fluid and not heating it. I only mention this because I think watching it work is very cool. (and a little bit disgusting if you watch it clean a bunch of coins, a pair of glasses, etc.)
Oooh, cleaning glasses. That's a good idea.. Idk what else I'd use an ultrasonic cleaner for lol. But glasses.. I have a very oily nose. My nose pads have seen better days lol
My favourite part of the process! I clean my fountain pens with my ultrasonic and I can never, NEVER switch it on and go off to do something else, I always am stuck there looking at the gunk coming up as smoke. Hours of fun.
Ultrasonic is how I clean my technical pens and fountain pen tips. It works amazingly. Works great on dirty glass, too :P You look JUST like a pen scientist in this video.
Instead of the full bath sized cleaning vessel, I would put a small jar (beaker, jam jar) of pen cleaner into the vessel and then fill the vessel with plain water. I think pen cleaner is better than ultrasonic cleaner for dried ink.
Okay but Peter in a lab coat? I can't be the only one feeling things
The Jug says CLEAN 2020... so you know its gonna do the trick
If you have really blocked up nibs, disassemble them totally and soak them in the cleaning solution mix overnight. I've actually soaked a couple of my pens for 2 days. No adverse effects and then a few cycles in the ultrasonic cleaner. Same for fountain pens but don't soak ebonite feeds for very long. Plastic feeds are fine for long soaks.
Eh, you can do just fine with warm water and a couple >drops< of liquid dish soap. The bottled ultrasonic cleaners are a scam unless you're trying to do real stubborn de-greasing or carbon removal (like for car parts). Good on ye for finally getting an ultrasonic. They're great for cleaning glasses and jewelry and fountain pens (and gun parts).
May I make a suggestion? 400ml water to 40ml of solution. (isn't that 10 to 1?) Clean one pen only. Use heat. Try 1 hour. I think the heat actually makes the solution work better. 1 hour? 2 hours? 3hours? But try only one stuck pen. I used these when I did mechanical drawing and it takes longer than you think for the ultrasonic cleaner to work. But, they do work. Metal will not break down, but the dried ink eventually will break apart inside the needle.
For ink, try a polar solvent like isopropyl alcohol or acetone. Put the tips in a plastic zip bag, fill halfway with solvent, zip it up, float it in the reservoir filled with water, buzz it, and it should work better than the detergent based product you were using.
Many acrylics can be damaged by alcohol! I know TWSBI, for sure, as well as maybe some other pen manufacturers, specifically state on their products to NOT use alcohol to clean them! And depending on what kind of polymer is used in the acrylic, acetone can literally dissolve it!
Just a drop of ammonia in warm water would have done it.
Use heat next time sir, it makes quite a difference despite taking ages to warm up. Rinse them first too.
Just some advice to rinse the pens with clean water after taking them out of the bath. You dont want any of the detergent residue lingering around mixing with the ink!
dude.... i totally use the iris aperture circle thingy to get circles to work on my stuff...very cool. good luck in summer school.
My architect buddy would never leave ink in his technical pens for longer than one week.
I work with other kinds of reusable pens
and I try to remember to toss the bits into a tub of water or cleaner
at the end of the day.
They tend to clean up easier
in the morning. :-)
Leaving them clogged for a long time
seems to be increasing the chances of permanent failure.
I have a rotring "tintenkuli" piston filler from around the 50s. When I got it, it was like your pens. Neglected with dried up ink in it.
Rinsed it, brushed it with a toothbrush, put warm (not hot!) Water in a bowl with a few drops of dishcleaner, let it sit overnight, next day I dropped it in my ultrasonic cleaner with just clean water for 10 minutes. Disassembled it (it was stuck before), rinsed and brushed again, USC again and rinsed it one final time.
Works like new!
The anatomy of these pens is different, thus you have to clean it regularly. I rinse it now every week and it never stops working.
Clean your tools, buddy!
I did NOT read that as “pens”
5 minutes? I usually run mine in the ultrasonic for about 5 hours! Seriously! 😆 I buy vintage pens on eBay and restore them. I use koh-I-noor cleaning solution and totally disassemble each nib. Ya kinda have to do that. Love the drawings and the point .35 is definitely working for you. 🥰
Oh really? Yeah maybe I’ll try it some more on longer times. I guess I was afraid they would just vibrate away into dust or something
And with fewer items and keep the fluid in clean and clear if possible. Don't give up on those pens Peter, keep cleaning them. Persistence is the key. Much love & *Virtual hugs* from Perth Western Australia xxx
Peter, you have the look of a mad scientist😉
Every time i watch your videos, you make me laugh. This time was
"Their signal word is danger.
My signal word is..
...
...
Corealis effect"
This drawing reminds me of a nightmare samurai. Love it.
TH-cam "no knifes in your video or else your channel will be deleted"
Peter draws " I use short sword and get this I will grab it by the blade"
Lol are knives really not allowed anymore?
@@peter_draws sadly But I'm sure you can get away with it
@@peter_draws Knives are not banned on TH-cam. If they decide you're "glamorizing violence" they can ban you, but there are still plenty of channels about knives here.
Usually a mixing ratio 4:1, 10:1, etc, the first number denotes the parts of solution or chemical and the second number denotes the parts of whatever you are using to dilute it with. Unless it specifically states it backwards. At least that is how it is with paint mixing ratios.
Good luck Peter
Honestly, the first drawing surprised me pleasantly
Well Peter I used Rotring's in my High School Drafting class and I ALWAYS cleaned the pen I choose before I started inking my drawing. I cleaned at the sink with water and a brush flushing it as best as I could before going to the UltraSonic cleaner. Placing the pens without the body nor ink chambers, Basically the Nib Assembly, into the cleaner filled with new cleaning solution. The teacher had a mixture ready-made for ease of use for the students. Most of the time this worked great! I believe that if you get a routine down and stick to it with your mechanical pens they will preform consistently well. I knew a draftsman, who once he used his Iso-graph pens he emptied them of ink and set them to soak in distilled water overnight, used the UltraSonic cleaner in the morning, dried the pens and set them aside ready for the next time he would fill them with ink and set about using them for his work. I know this is a lot of work just to keep a pen working, but if you want the reliability of the mechanical pens, you need to treat them right. Phew!~ That was a load! I hope you have much success and better results now that you have the cleaner. I look forward to your next drawing video!
Dr. Peter,
I just want you to know I found your channel when I got high the first time.
Bought a lit shirt you made.
Still here. 🤙
I tried cleaning my clogged 0.2mm Rotring pen and some fountain pens by putting it in a half a cup of water and microwave it for at least 45 sec. for some reason it worked.
My eyes immediately gravitated towards that "The Bends" magnet on your fridge.
Same- it's like the first thing I noticed! Radiohead has really dug itself into my subconscious lol
Great wafting technique peter, my lab instructor would be proud of you for not just sniffing it
the dramatic lighting is so pleasing to my eyes. i took a few screenshots for future light studies in the least creepiest way possible... adding them to my "maybe one day it will inspire me" folder
Gave up on tech pens years ago. Switched to fountain pens
Great fun. Next time, delve a little deeper and disassemble completely - some of the pens even have a hidden socket to unscrew them with. You can then remove the hair-thin rod inside the nib. You have to be super careful with the really fine ones but you can then clean all the ink out of the tube - which is the bit that will be blocked. Works almost every time and is very satisfying :)
I have used a ultrasonic cleaner to clean Koh-I-Noor technical pens. However, it required a full disassembly to get them back to life. If the "needle" is stuck barrel. Try one 5 min cycle in the ultrasonic cleaner. Then, fully disassemble. I only use dawn dish soap though.
Rinse and repeat after the full disassembly.
I live in India
I haven't really bought expensive pens
But i love a specific pen, Trimax
It's pretty cheap 45 rupees (roughly 70 rupees=1 us dollar)
And the refill is cheaper 15 rupees
Idk why but the refill comes with a whole cap
And it feels better in hand
Seems like a win win
Its fun to use see-through use and throw pens
I'm glad you figured it all out
Keep up the good work Peter!
Hi Peter, I personally don’t have the patience to deal with tools that take too much maintenance and fiddling to keep them doing their intended tasks. A wee bit of hands on, like filling a fountain pen and the occasional flush is part of the experience, but the Rotring technical pens are too much if you ask me. Kind of like a Porsche Carrara GT, an absolutely stunning super car that is an aesthetic and technical marvel but has a $50,000 clutch that will be quickly useless if you don’t disengage the clutch just so. Ruins the experience.
You should try drawing with a drill
I think that would work great with your style because of how unpredictable it would be!
We used an industrial sized ultra sonic cleaning machine to clean filters that we used on a Helium-3 dewar. That thing could clean anything bigger than Helium (2 atoms wide!!!!!) off our metal filter. If I still worked at that lab I'd offer to try putting a pen in that industrial sized machine for you. I bet the pens would be good as new!
Peter in a lab coat is basically one evil pharmacist from Drusselstine...
If I had a nickel for every time I think of Peter as a hilarious (but more successful) parallel to Dr Heinz Doofenshmirtz, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
peter. i love you brother. u got me doing the crying laughing crying thing, you're great.
Any tiny needle is going to be hard to clean. I had one that took me a great while to get working again. You take the good with the bad with these pens.
I think the mad scientist outfit just need a head lamp or one if those Jeweler magnifier things that flips down over one eye.
Thank for the smile as always!❤
I love that drawing. School is already being planned out for you. Just put the time and work in and you got it man. You're in your 30's, you know it's ok to ask questions and be openminded too them.
I quite like the first drawing. It has a lot of directional energy confined within it.
I think that the Rotrings are like the thoroughbreds of the drawing world, and need mollycoddling from the moment they leave the art supplies shop. I'm sure the ultrasonic bath will have done a lot of good, though.
Interesting drawings. I hope your summer classes inspire.
10:1 for 400 would be 40ml of the solution
I have a complete set of Rotring and Koh i Noor pens I've had for years. They're in perfect condition. The difference is that I clean each pen every time I use it and store it until the next time, this involves taking the pen apart and rinsing it in Rotring cleaning solution or Rapido-eze, rinsing it out and drying it. I've never stored any of my pens with ink in them for any length of time and would expect this to cause issues, especially with the smaller nib sizes. That said, I've read articles claiming pens that suffered this indignity could be recovered by soaking in alcohol and various other solutions, depending upon the severity of the hardened ink I imagine, ultrasonic cleaners are a relatively new addition. Maybe if the pen is being used every day or two you can get away with storing ink in them, obviously once it's forgotten about disaster occurs.
Have only one fountain pen currently. Ink it came with seems really good at not drying to pen itself. But I’d imagine most simple solution would be knowing what the ink is soluble in (alcohol based, water based, ect) and just dipping pen into that to dissolve ink.
Peter. That second drawing with the circle around the guy, is fucking awesome. Something about it hits me just right, it mixes your style of black and white inking, large black areas, doodling, and fantasy and I love it. I wish you would scan this so I can make it my phone background, I like it that much. Thanks for inspiring me so much peter keep up the good work.
As the years go by, Petey is looking more and more like a mad scientist =)
Also maybe a cleaning solution that is better at dissolving ink?
Should have let them soak in the solution overnight first, then put in machine
Plunging Peter's Pen Parts
People use the Ultra Sonic Cleaner (much bigger version) in dental offices to disinfect and get rid of clotted blood on dental instruments.
Oh I,,, for sure read this title wrong
The Iron Throne, forged in the fire of Balerion the black dread with a thousand swords of Ageons fallen enemies.
I don't think you should not use the ultrasonic cleaner with product & pens, just keep doing it in smaller batches as u said that you thought it could be the number of things being cleaned in one given load. I reckon those gummed up pens will come back to being useful pens if you persist imh. Love from Perth Western Australia xxx
Dude don't be dense, you should rinse the pens thoroughly before placing in machine, better disassembly and clean fluid would definitely help as well. Secondly, you can run the Heater to around 38C with no chance of damage. In all, this was a pretty pathetic attempt to use the machine. It really could have bought most of your pens back if you actually tried.
Thrush is nothing to be ashamed of Peter!
Me reads title:
Brain: euphemism comment overload!!!
you said you wish you could oil your pens - noodler's makes lubricated inks for fountain pens, and probably other companies do too, but i know from noodler's anything with the word "eel" in the name is lubricated, and some that don't have eel in the name too
I have pens envy!!
You don't need the fancy chemicals. I use one for cleaning airbrushes and just use dish soap and water
Goodluck for classes :)
i like to use fountainpen ink mixed with a bit of water in the rotrings.
Oh it said PENS 😂
In my experience, those ultrasonic cleaners are just slightly better than soaking in regular soapy water. I wonder if you could push some cleaning solution through the Rotring nib like how you push it through a fountain pen with the converter.
Where ultrasonic cleaners excel is getting in small passageways. I clean carburetor parts in mine and they work good as new and I'm talking ones from the 60s and 70s
You are definitely rocking the lab coat! :D
Seems to me they're 20th-century technology which has not stood the test of time. They should be excellent coming from Germany.
Yeah unfortunately I think you’re right. I want a modern version, but I don’t know if there’s enough demand
@@peter_draws Agreed, perhaps they have had their time? I do like using my technical pens but... HATE the cleaning!
I have given up on my Rotring Isographs because they let me down constantly. I moved to Faber Castell TG1-s and have had no issues at all. They don't seem to dry out and block up like the Rotrings
i absolutely lost it when you said "Coriolis affect" is your signal hahahahahh
I think you can clean your glasses with this too
8:11 what's that little skull 💀 in there staring back at you? 😳
Well that's interesting is there something we need to know?
Peter in gloves and a lab coat is doing something to me 😳
Love the lab coat peter :)
"they do just sell this stuff to anybody"
Anytime i've seen pros use ultrasonics for electronics or jewelry they set the timers for hours. I'm interested in this too... I too bought Rotring white ink :[
Do technical pens have any real advantages over drawing pens such as the Pigma Micron, other than being refillable?
Pens... I definitely read "pens"
The true test is going to be, buy a brand new pen and follow, to the T, the maintenance steps and compair it to the pens you've used and abused.
Definitely read the title wrong
...........that title threw me off
it's probably more important to clean them regularly rather than letting them sit clogged for a long time, but i don't blame you at all - i do the exact same thing even with my expensive fountain pens. i could never fault someone else for something i do myself.
man i read that wrong...
Basic chemistry, you have to give the chemicals a little Splish Splash when you pour from their jugs. It helps loosen up any innate aggressions that the molecules might be holding on to.
Also, my safe word is pinochle
Breaking Peter
How do you dispose of the cleaning solution afterwards?
It's no more toxic than strong cleaners like simple green or 409 and it can go down the drain. I use straight simple green in my ultrasonic cleaner and it works beautifully for small parts and is much cheaper
The pic of you on the site makes you look like mark Zuckerberg.
tfw the zuck is your twin brother and he never sends any money 😞
Can we just appreciate that he is wearing the proper PPE for using an unknown substance
I can't ignore the first drawing, I found it so satisfying to look at!
Hello Peter!
I think Rotring should send Peter some freebies!
Apparently the Platinum Brand "Carbon Ink" works perfectly fine in my Rotring .35 Tech pen (Isograph) ............ no issues detected!!.......... which is a good thing, since rotring and others charge a criminal sum for their ink!
Hello Peter
Ultrasonic cleaner was one of my best investments. I have many vintage and newer fountain pens, and except for the hard rubber ones, ultrasonic cleaners work to get all the old ink out, and even clean up brightwork.
I have an older Osmiroid 75 that came to me plugged with the India ink the previous owner used in it. Took multiple runs of the ultrasonic cleaner and dilute Koh I Noor technical pen cleaner, but I finally got it all out. Worked great for an almost 90 year old Esterbrook nib unit, too. Just bubbled out whatever was plugging it.😁
I've even gotten ink out of a poorly designed Wing Sung feed that I thought was permanently stained. (The 3008 with the Lamy style nibs, the feeds are pretty rough.)
The key is "first, do no harm." Start on the lowest setting and time, bumping up as needed. (It took about a week for the Osmiroid, running my definitely cheaper cleaner off and on about 5x a day, leaving the pen soaking, and using the longest time setting.)
As to discoloration of an ebonite feed: it's got to be quite old, and have been exposed to heat and other things that are pretty rough on older pens. The 90ish year old Esterbrook nib didn't discolour in the least, and it took a while to get it working again, soaking and running the cleaner. It's the outside that tends to get discoloured...
Make your self YOUR ULTRA SONIC CLEANER. IT IS ONE PART AMONIA ( WINDOW CLEANER ) AND 10 PART distilled ( preferably ) water. Then run the cleaner more longer . It never damages in any way. Some use it leaving over-night. I and corrosions t is not a fast process. Very slow and time consuming way to remove Gunk and corrosions by VIBRATION FREQUENCIES. Pre wash the pen parts or even soak in sopy water over night for very gunky pens. If you can use a soft soothe brush to eliminate as much as you can by doing manually and the wash off the part and put in the Ultra sonic machine. You very fast or different results.
Ultrasonic cleaning is done on Gem stones and fine jewelries like gold and silver too. (They use some natural soapy organic nuts based on a tree. ) well known to the jewel smiths. Some times using a ULTRA HIGH FREQUENCY HERTZ for a longer time will help.
Cleaning more Gunk of pen and corrosion is easily done.
i bought a Isograph .30 around ten months ago and i love it! It didnt take a month before i figured out these are high maintenance. Im using it at least 4~5 days a week(8-10+ hr a day) and it was getting clogged everyday! I thought maybe the ink and paper fibers were working their was up the nib and causing the ink to not flow as well...? But i think its just the ink drying and thickening clogging the tip.
So I started FULLY disassembling the nib and cleaning it at least once a month. And before every ink refill i rinse the nib under warm water and drain any water before refilling. Seems to help keeping them working very well. Im pretty sure the direction even say keep it clean but who reads those. Lol
And something else Ive notice about this pen and ink. If you shake the pen a lot , the ink gets foamy, which might cause flow issues, so i try not to shake it a lot. I do like these rOtring pens a lot! I just bought two .20 today cant wait to try them with some different colors. Though i might need a magnifier to see my lines. -_-
Yea... but they kind of give you a bonus perk : +3 in precision lolol. I don't know why but I always enjoyed watching you more drawing with those pens so I think the effort was worth the shot! :) and probably long overdue ;) I figure that the only way to keep them in shape would be to always use them and prevent clean them.... which is kindof a pain in the a** indeed lol
Oh, I paid full attention to the first drawing. I loved it. I imagined it as a derelict office building.