Awesome. My river bottom property pulls all the deer off the Ag fields above in the fall and thru the rut. Adding the plots has helped tremendously. Next step - travel corridors on a completely flat piece of property. Happy Easter, Jeff & WHS family.
You know what you're talking about.therefore you can speak with authority, I'm thinking some of those high octane tv deer hunting producers watch and learn . you're the best! Happy Easter
hey brother..in a week im taking a madium size trac hoe to the club to cut parking access in the far end..gonna cut in a couple 200 x100 plots..my question is,how do you feel about clover planted on our logging roads..im worried it will take from the plots if they have 400 yd strip of clover wherever they access...thanks for your vids.
hey buddy been watching your videos for the last couple of weeks now, our bow season ends this weekend in nova scotia and the rut is still on, i subscibed because i like your channel and one thing you said in a video, is that you never stop learning ive been a bowhunter for 40 now and i always learn something new, thanks for the great videos
Happy Easter Jeff to you and your family. Thank you for the inspiring videos and giving all of us direction on what we can do to improve our hunting properties and ideas for state land hunting.
Good Easter sermon! I like your WHS clothes you have been wearing. I can’t believe I never noticed the antler logo is inside of a leaf. God bless you and your family and thanks for all you do.
Love your videos. Here in central illinois and just bought some hunting land and currently converting back 8 acres of ag that was corn back to wildlife habitat. Alot of work but worth it.
Great video Jeff . I'm in the process of converting a 12 ac hay field in to switch grass food plots and early successional growth. Your videos have been a great help.
@@kurtpearson8597 Right now I'm just letting mother nature take her course with woody browse and briers. This year I'm going to add some box elder. My three main food plots have brassicas, beans, winter peas and fruit trees. I didn't put the fruit trees in my browse plots because I want the deer to have to come to the main food plots to get them.
I always love your information Jeff you hit on a lot of subjects that others don't I appreciate you taking the time to do these videos and share once again good luck on everything
I have a 60 acre piece of land. Surrounded by ag, but I have plenty of natural openings where I've put food plots and the early and late season patterning at my place is as predictable as it's ever been. Neighboring properties are all closed canopy hardwood and there have had almost no success over the last few years
Kurt, for the past several years the basis of my food program has just simply been clovers and brassicas. And I rotate my crops every year. Usually Late July or early August I till the Clover in because the Clover puts nitrogen into the soil as well as organic matter and then I spread the brassicas just before good rain. And then the immediate late winter / early spring I will frost seed clover on to those Brassica plots because they are almost always bear dirt at that time of the year and it has worked perfectly! We are having so much success every year that it has been amazing. The nice thing I have found about Frost seeding Clover onto an old Brassica field as opposed to broadcasting Clover into a brand-new tilled field is that when you Frost seed that you are pretty much guaranteed it will germinate because the springs are always wet depending on your area plus the ground freezing and thawing really gives good seed to soil contact
jeremy casey thanks! We have ag up top but this nice patch of three acres available down below that is far enough away for that third feeding. Clover and brassicas! Thanks!
I like the Define and Dictate method. Haven't even had property a full year and have double the pics and movement from deer. Thanks for building my confidence on what and when to do certain activities like food plots, water hole, mineral site, and more. Happy Easter
Happy Easter to you and your familyJeff.Thr farmer that does my fields hates plowing .He said it ruins the soil.Hr put soybeans in last year. And right now their is a big Tom and 3 hens in it.The deer fed in it hard till March.This year he is No tilling corn.Cant wait to see what happans.Have a blessed day.Stay safe..
Thanks Jeff, it sounds like you are describing my 40 between Caro and Cass City! Being surrounded by Ag is a different challenge. Some years it seems like you have a doe factory with the right crops around you. Then a doe desert when the fields are plowed under. But always have the nice bucks by having unpressured food plots. I find that does even resident does follow the crops more then mature bucks.
Still pretty high Russell. I’m from Cass City MI originally, live in AK now but spend Oct-Nov down in the Midwest hunting. Sadly all it takes is a few bad apples.
Mr. Langworthy, I live on Deckerville Rd. The property I was talking about is on Elmwood Rd. This is such a neat message. I moved to Caro form Clio when I was 10 years old. My best friend in Clio was Kelly Langworthy. I started bow hunting in 1975 with an old recurve. My first area which me and a friend hunted was just East of Hurdscorner Rd. The river that you crossed is White Creek and it runs thru my backyard. There is plenty of state land close and not overly hunted. I believe there is less people in the woods then there was in the 80’s and 90’s. Make the trip with your Grand it will be worth it. I can give you a location or 2 where you’ll collect some great memories and maybe a deer or two.
Russell Langworthy you are speaking my language. My brother-in-law won the Deford buck pole in the 80’s. Who knows you may have seen it. I have 8 grands that love the creek and crayfish that live there. We found our hunting spot because DNR at that time in the 70’s did hunts with pheasants called Put and Take. They did a release in some woods alone Deckerville road and we seen a lot more deer then pheasants. Was a great bow spot for years. I think I hunted where you did. It was a spot where I seen my first wild turkey while hunting. It was some land between Broadway to the north and Deckerville to the south. Great number of white oaks back there. We park at a friends that butted up to the state land there.
Russell Langworthy so cool hearing my memories wrote down by another! Best wishes to you and the Grands. Another big thanks to Jeff for giving out the best information and bringing hunters together! So cool!
It’s pouring rain here again I got my garden turned and put the disc to it and I’m getting ready to put my plots in be safe out there and GOD BLESS you and your family brother Amen 🙏
Great comments. We are slowly converting more land over, and trying to develop better entrance and exit routes. Will start spraying simazine next week on some of the switch that didn't do as well, then in a few weeks hit the switch again with 2-4D and RU. Then get the buckwheat planted. Thanks for all you assistance. give me a call when you are in the area, and most of all stay safe!!!!!
Thanks a lot Bob! I love to hear about all that you are doing...really hope to see you soon. You stay safe too...I am trying to do my best and still earn a living!
Great info Jeff! Im just south of Atlanta Ga and we have a bunch of AG about 2 miles east of our 200 acres that gets hammered up until September. Needless to say we planted some small but effective food plots and I couldnt believe how many bucks started to show up on the camera in October near our micro plots that we created in open patches of the woods. We didnt have much money but because there was diversity and plenty of bedding, cover, and browse I had two HUGE bucks showing up on camera. I unfortunately spooked one at 6am one morning. He was an 11 pointer that this year will probably be in the 160 to 170 range. We have a more clear strategy this year but I think its just a matter of time before a monster gets killed! Thanks again Jeff👍
Hope you have time for family today. Thanks for another free lesson ! Old habits find me with strips of ag- 10% alfalfa and 20 % corn. Not sure my dad (84 yrs old) and cousin (late 60s) will change from those patterns. We have lots of depth to hunt as deer come in, what plots are the best third feeding? 1-2 hidden acres of winter rye? Crab apples? What gives me bang for my bucks third feeding?
Happy Easter Jeff god bless and keep you always this man has taught me so much when all around me nothing but non believers telling me this & that all so glad I stuck with my gut feeling about Jeff for this I am greatful can’t wait for all the dots to connect great video
Clover plots in the south work pretty well thru November which is our peak rut month. Also, simply mowing (4 inches or higher) and maintaining some small openings in the weeds throughout the summer creates fresh growth early bow season. We are allowed to bait, and mineral can swing deer thru your ambush spot. Even if the bucks have lost some interest in the mineral, doe will continue to hit it and drag the bucks in looking for love. For myself, if you don't own the property you hunt on, sometimes you are just kinda stuck with what you got.
Great Video! I learn so much listening to your experience. I will be moving to an 8 acre acreage, so i need to be very efficient and have a plan with 3 acres of food plots. It is so much fun just planning. Happy Easter!
I have AG on and around my farm....after they harvest beans ,the deer eat the cast off beans and if it was warm enough to regrow they eat the shoots 2"-4" tall in fall.not one or two deer 10- 20 deer at a time...
Thanks for the information. The last two videos have been very helpful. Are there cases where you recommend dozing mature hardwoods to create food plot openings? Thanks
He is RISEN! Happy Easter I'm a farmer. I greatly appreciate your insight on managing deer. How to influence the harvest for the benefit of my hunters, yet reduce crop damage. (I have yet to lease land even though I have a lot of pressure to do so.)
HE sure has...Happy Easter Vincent! And thank you...I do believe that you can have a balance. Part of the strategy for you is to place the deer on food plots for the 3rd feeding of the day and not on your ag fields at that time. I hope that it all helps you figure it out Vincent! Also, thanks for being a farmer ☺️
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I also hope that you can become a liaison for farmers/hunters. Issues of crop loss, while significant, are often dwarfed by the conflict of trespassing, hunters wanting to drive through crop to make entrance, hunters who won't kill does. (~$75k last year for me. That's enough to pay for my children's college.) Posting and adoption of the 3S's, eliminating bedding and apple trees are the alternative deer management many farmers are forced to adopt.
As usual, loved the video. I follow you, but I will also take a bonus rut buck, if he walks by. Anything that make my knee's shake & heart pound is my target buck- I watch all of your videos, so I know you still get buck fever as well!
Hi Jeff, Happy Easter. Would you be more apt to put a food plot near residential housing, or put the bedding near residential housing and the food plot further in. This would be a wooded setting. Thanks Jeff
Hi ADK, you are welcome! Most often I would put the food near the residential area, to maximize the depth of cover to layer doe and then buck bedding into the depth of the cover. You bring the deer out to the food in a safe location for the afternoon feeding, and then let them hit ornamental shrubs, bird feeders and neighborhood handouts after dark ☺️ Sets up some great morning hunting deep into the cover... Hope that helps, Happy Easter!
I have an hourglass shaped 40 acres in the middle of 300 to 400 acres of ag I can’t change that because i lease the hunting rights only. I’m putting in food plots this year and I’ve done some habitat improvements for bedding and I’ve noticed a significant difference in deer movements but am I wasting my time trying to improve the property when I can’t change the Agriculture portion
You are doing awesome...a huge help! That is the case with most lands it seems. As long as you are working to supply food source #3 you will be on track ☺️ BTW...your user name...man, we seem close to Marshall Law than ever. Not sure which is scarier...
Whitetail Habitat Solutions I agree. No one wants to be sick but I feel it’s been blown way out of proportion. I myself am going to go on with living life as usual and hope this thing is over soon. My job is about as Isolated as yours so I have very limited human contact anyway
Hi Brent...I'm sorry to hear that! Hopefully you were able to get something out of whoever visited with you? I love MI by the way! Just finishing my 10th client on this trip tomorrow. Was here in Feb, and will be here again in June and August. Hopefully I can help you out some day!
What do u recommend when your unable to cut out and create large food plots, or cut down trees. Extremely over pressured area, small land, surrounded by hunting leases, but large deer...
Happy Easter Jeff, I was wondering if you had any tips for how to clear out an area for a food plot with no big equipment. Will the stumps be an issue for the plot!
Hey Jeff, if I plant my food plots with sunflower,corn, millet, chufa in spring for the turkeys and labor day dove shoot. Is that going to negatively affect the deer herd? I don't want to create a summer doe factory. Thanks Jeff, you're the man. Btw I'm in so.central Georgia.
Im in northern ontario and often our food plots are often under a foot of snow come deer season. Thinking of switching to corn and rye grass. Thoughts?
Glad to see you are using first lite now!! I seen you use maximus red arrows? I used them for a couple years really like how they fly very consistent spine but ive had them break on several deer. Please switch arrows they are junk.
Happy Easter Jeff. You have completely changed my way of thinking on whitetail habitat. Do recommend putting food plot mix on traveling tails? If so what type would you recommend? They way my property is laid out ,5ac it would be hard to hold deer on, but can I maximize daylight travel and improve deer herd ?
Wow. Y'all should really be telling this to the deer on my property I live on. I have a separate piece of land thats all woods surrounded by woods with one field on one side for a ways. But the piece i live on is a strip of woods with a corn field on one side and woods on another and an alfalfa/grass field on the opposite of the corn. The neighbors property is all yard and shrubs. A big corn field below it. And they lay in her front yard from October to January all the time. And the 140+in 8 point we seen 2 yrs in a row was bedding in the lower corn field across the road from our house almost every evening. We couldnt find him forever during season till someone drove down around checking the field edge n he got jumped out of corn. Multiple times from there we know he was bedded in corn. Last buck i shot on this land was a 157 in 10 point that was FULL of corn and some briars in between. That was end of first week of rifle in PA here. So I'm not saying in any way your wrong because obviously where your at your successful and what u do works. However I will say I think maybe your bashing ag a lil to much. Weve used corn fields to pull deer off of other lands to ours because we had the corn n they didn't. Yes we have the woods n browse to as well. But so did they. In an area where there's nothing but corn n beans as far as u can see I think your on to something. But here where the next corn field might be 3 4 5 miles away I think its a whole diff game. And to say it makes deer unpredictable I disagree with 100 percent. Weve used surrounding ag fields as an indicator for yrs of when there goin to be where. And there's a solid group of over 30 deer herded up every winter behind my house. So I'm not sure I understand why u put quite the bashing on all ag fields n basically make it sound like ag fields are the downfall of deer herds. Which is absolutely not true. Esp where deer dont have the browse to support the size of the herd. Yes they prefer variety but fact is they are opportunists and survivors. They do what it takes to survive. So maybe u should start telling all the deer that spend their days in corn fields they aren't being proper deer n they should eat better lol. Cause the 157 in 10 on my wall who we know bedded in the corn field and front yard of the neighbor. Or in the field across road. Or right on the edge of the alfalfa field in the Christmas and larch trees didnt seem to get your memo that he should be not bedding in corn :p. It took 2 3 yrs of many people on the surrounding properties hunting this buck as well as me to finally get him and I got him out of the alfalfa field with a bunch of does that were feeding in the alfalfa. During the late season after christmas they are always either in the alfalfa field or in our corn field which by then is harvested and it don't seem to bother them as they are there every evening like clockwork. When the corn is up they prefer wondering around the edge and browsing on corn leaves n grass n that to me makes them far more oredictable. Basically guiding them right down the open path to my tree. I mean I realize turning 100% of your property into a big corn field is obviously goin to hurt u and not be huntable except right away in morning n right before dark when theyre moving n feeding. But the way weve been able to execute and see and keep deer by a combination of say 70% woods 25% corn field n 5% pasture or so not including the neighbors which has alot of woods n cover but has the huge alfalfa field as well. And fields on the back side of the ridge surrounded by woods on the next property before it goes up onto mountain. So i agree that ALL of one thing is bad but to say its just bad n u shouldnt have any ag on your land I disagree. I think it more so depends on the surrounding areas. Your deer herd. And your situation as to if n how bad ag is. Id be curious to describe the land more n hear your opinion of what you would do diff if u could just to get ideas. We do use food plots. However its about 40 acre if that I hunt behind my house I'm refering to. And the other property thats woods is 60 acre. So it also is a bit more out of our control as to what the deer herd does n wants to do. We dont have 3 400 acres to control every aspect of that deers day. Its impossible around here. Deer just dont stay in an area that small anywhere around here thats not a fence. If a doe stays in a square mile back here her whole life id say she was an exception. The 10 i shot was seen the beginning of archery 3 4 miles out the ridge behind my house. And as far as a mile the other way toward river later in season. So with his range theres no way for me to even think about controlling half of his day every day let alone his every move like you can. Yes he preferred our land n right beside cone season but he still traveled during rut and before. I respect everthing you have to say n I listen to alot of your content. Id just like to get more of a dialogue on this topic and what u would do on my land because of how u put things n I've been making that all work so well for so many yrs. However if it was explained diff or we got to talk about it some maybe it could even be better and im always open to bettering my hunt. In an avid archery hunter as u are and that's my most time spent in the woods is last couple weeks of archery and if need be first week of rifle which ive only needed that one yr in last 6. So if I could make that even better im all ears. But when the ag is what has killed me and my family so many of our bucks in not sure I understand why u bash it so much. If u specified this was for Midwest states n states where its more ag than woods then id understand. But u talk as tho u mean every property u manage ag is bad n I'm not sure how that applies to where I am where tjeres more woods n browse than ag fields
Jeff I did my first food plot in late last season but did not grow till it warmed up this year. Is it ok if I let it be till summer and see what happens? I did a clover brassica mix. Thanks in advance
So I have about 25% of and an 80 acre parcel in Ohio that we just freed up that had cattle on it. Its in the center of the property and I would to convert that into something special. Is CRP mixed with fall food plots a good mix? Would love to chat!
Hi Justin...converting that to Switchgrass, food plots and diversity pockets would be outstanding! Have a Happy Easter! I never chat with anyone about their land...but I do visit over 100 clients per year on site visits scheduled several months in advance. Wish I had more time! We are still finishing scheduling a trip in January of 2021... East side of Ohio around New Philly. Hope all of the info helps you out!
I'm confused because just about every evening hunt these deer come out of the woods funneled by natural and man made terrain and head straight for the ag field harvested or not.
My hunting property is Majority AG. My exact problem seems to be finding a pattern of movement. Would love to send my info to you. Happy Easter Mr Jeff
It is so critical to define daylight movement and AG is so bad for it. I visit about 100 clients per year...this year about 130...would be happy to help out! Happy Easter Sebastian 👍
As always, a very insightful, educational video. Happy Resurrection day to you and your family. Unique time to not celebrate Easter with friends and family at church and at home.
Love to hear if you manage any PA property for anyone and what your opinions of PA are and if u feel as tho it is diff in sone ways than out where there isnt pressure or if its just the area im in maybe. Or if there's always exceptions to the rule. Again ive never hunted out west. Ive hunted sika in Maryland for years but that's a diff game in itself yet lol. But just curious as to why it seems as tho its working for me or if maybe I am settling for what ive thought was as good as we could get n I'm missing out. Just cause its what ive known.
What are your thoughts about supplemental feeding for the deer? I am planning on having a perennial white clover and chicory field and then having a corn trough a couple 100 yards away. What are your thoughts about this? Thank you!
I hunt on a 250 acre property with the cover on the back of the property and 40 acres of ag fields in the front wud it work 2 put food plots between the ag and cover 2 define deer movement?
Hi Bradley...that's exactly what I do. Let them feed in your plots on a season long food source before sending them out to the local ag fields after dark...those plots need to represent the bottom of the funnel of daylight movement.
For me, Ag doesn't mean no fall season food. My farm, like many today, is beans-on-beans. And it is run as no-till with a winter cover crop of wheat that deer love.
Seems like the hunters that harvest the best bucks around here,feed the deer year around on food plots,and auto corn and supplement feeders.baiting is legal here.
Well, being in the southern eastern woods. Deer lay 3 feet in on edge of field and come out when you leave at nite. So, unless you can fly in over their heads, you busted. Like a jungle here in the woods, so just about forget sneaking up on them. So my suggestion here is get in your stand 5am and sit for a couple days to let everythi,g calm down. Then start hunting. Midwest hunting don't work in the eastern pine briar jjungles. Hard woods are non existent. Good luck all. Cheers!
Sounds like my rifle season spot in Michigan! I go in the night before and spend the night in the shack and don't leave until I get one on the ground. Hell , if I'm not in my other spots atleast 2 hrs before first light I'm screwed! And all day sits are the only way to go for us
And I still cant understand how anyone could ever expect to keep a herd of even 15 deer on a 60 acre parcel. Like deer don't stay in that small of an area. No deer ive ever seen has ever stayed in that small of an area. Now behind my house we see the same rotation of deer throughout the week. We'll see 10-15 one evening. 4 5 the next n then 20+ the next. Then 4 5 6 for a day or 2 then the 15 again. The other evenings theyre in the alfalfa on the neighbor beside us. Or back in the orchard. Its over an area of say 500 square yards or maybe a bit more. But they rotate. If they cane out in the same spot n went n bedded in the exact same spots each day the predators would pick them off so fast we wouldnt have deer. They have always rotated n moved around to change it up n not do the same thing every day. So far as anyone around here is concerned if your dont have that 4 500 acres to manage your never gonna keep the exact same deer n control everything about that population like u are on your properties. One of the nicest buck i shot years ago was a buck we pulled off other lands in the rut that wed never seen cause we had the doe. But there is no way to keep the same 10 deer on a 60 acre plot forever. Bucks run bucks off. Bigger bucks travel in. We do however have the property that the deer all cone to and seem to stay on when the season starts n they feel any pressure. We have the cover to keep them. I like food plots and use them as well. But the neighbors haven't one picture of my 10 in the daylight on their food plot. Hes been seen in the woods out of season in the daylight but he was never seen in the light on any of the food plots ik of around on neighboring properties. And they're all in the middle of woods. Surrounded by woods. But he came out to the alfalfa (ag) field with the does in the late afternoon n came far enough down to me to shoot just before dark. They were headed into the larch trees and Christmas trees to go down n across n up onto my corn field. I still think its all in where u are and how you utilize the tools u have. Esp on a small parcel like mine. Even if we had everything your saying and more its just to small to not have them travel to other nearby areas and make rounds back n forth. Around here having the land with cover in between the pressure is the biggest thing. The property they prefer over the others for cover under pressure.
Awesome. My river bottom property pulls all the deer off the Ag fields above in the fall and thru the rut. Adding the plots has helped tremendously. Next step - travel corridors on a completely flat piece of property. Happy Easter, Jeff & WHS family.
You know what you're talking about.therefore you can speak with authority, I'm thinking some of those high octane tv deer hunting producers watch and learn . you're the best!
Happy Easter
Thanks Norm...really appreciate that! Happy Easter to you and the family ☺️
hey brother..in a week im taking a madium size trac hoe to the club to cut parking access in the far end..gonna cut in a couple 200 x100 plots..my question is,how do you feel about clover planted on our logging roads..im worried it will take from the plots if they have 400 yd strip of clover wherever they access...thanks for your vids.
hey buddy been watching your videos for the last couple of weeks now, our bow season ends this weekend in nova scotia and the rut is still on, i subscibed because i like your channel and one thing you said in a video, is that you never stop learning ive been a bowhunter for 40 now and i always learn something new, thanks for the great videos
Happy Easter Jeff to you and your family. Thank you for the inspiring videos and giving all of us direction on what we can do to improve our hunting properties and ideas for state land hunting.
Thanks Jeff. Appreciate your contrarian approach in the middle of the MidWest-heartland of ag!
He is Risen!
Thank you Chad, He indeed has risen! Happy Easter!
Another great video Jeff. Thank you. Happy Easter. Stay healthy
He is risen and alive glory to God for without this day our lives would be meaningless!
Amen...He is the reason that ANY of this is even possible...
AMEN!
Good Easter sermon! I like your WHS clothes you have been wearing. I can’t believe I never noticed the antler logo is inside of a leaf. God bless you and your family and thanks for all you do.
Thanks Roy...need a sermon every once and a while ☺️ Happy Easter to you and your family...hope the weather is good enough to get outside!
Happy Easter Jeff. Hope you and your family are well. Great videos and thanks for all the informative content.
Thanks for more great info ! Keep the videos coming. Happy Easter and god bless.
Love your videos. Here in central illinois and just bought some hunting land and currently converting back 8 acres of ag that was corn back to wildlife habitat. Alot of work but worth it.
Great video Jeff . I'm in the process of converting a 12 ac hay field in to switch grass food plots and early successional growth. Your videos have been a great help.
What are you planting in your small plots? I’m looking for third feeding plot ideas! Rye, apples and redosier dogwood are options ??
@@kurtpearson8597 Right now I'm just letting mother nature take her course with woody browse and briers. This year I'm going to add some box elder. My three main food plots have brassicas, beans, winter peas and fruit trees. I didn't put the fruit trees in my browse plots because I want the deer to have to come to the main food plots to get them.
Jeff, Happy Easter and thank God for giving us deer to hunt. Cris
I always love your information Jeff you hit on a lot of subjects that others don't I appreciate you taking the time to do these videos and share once again good luck on everything
I have a 60 acre piece of land. Surrounded by ag, but I have plenty of natural openings where I've put food plots and the early and late season patterning at my place is as predictable as it's ever been. Neighboring properties are all closed canopy hardwood and there have had almost no success over the last few years
What are planting in your food plots? I’m interested in complimenting some alfalfa and corn with a third feeding plot. Or two !
Kurt, for the past several years the basis of my food program has just simply been clovers and brassicas. And I rotate my crops every year. Usually Late July or early August I till the Clover in because the Clover puts nitrogen into the soil as well as organic matter and then I spread the brassicas just before good rain. And then the immediate late winter / early spring I will frost seed clover on to those Brassica plots because they are almost always bear dirt at that time of the year and it has worked perfectly! We are having so much success every year that it has been amazing. The nice thing I have found about Frost seeding Clover onto an old Brassica field as opposed to broadcasting Clover into a brand-new tilled field is that when you Frost seed that you are pretty much guaranteed it will germinate because the springs are always wet depending on your area plus the ground freezing and thawing really gives good seed to soil contact
jeremy casey thanks! We have ag up top but this nice patch of three acres available down below that is far enough away for that third feeding. Clover and brassicas! Thanks!
I like the Define and Dictate method. Haven't even had property a full year and have double the pics and movement from deer. Thanks for building my confidence on what and when to do certain activities like food plots, water hole, mineral site, and more. Happy Easter
Happy Easter to you and your familyJeff.Thr farmer that does my fields hates plowing .He said it ruins the soil.Hr put soybeans in last year. And right now their is a big Tom and 3 hens in it.The deer fed in it hard till March.This year he is No tilling corn.Cant wait to see what happans.Have a blessed day.Stay safe..
@adam Wiech This guy doesn't even waist fuel on that. His beans were 3 feet tall and 30 to 40 pods on each plant.
@adam Wiech And all the nitrogen from the rotting bean roots makes the corn grow like crazy.
Thanks Jeff, it sounds like you are describing my 40 between Caro and Cass City! Being surrounded by Ag is a different challenge. Some years it seems like you have a doe factory with the right crops around you. Then a doe desert when the fields are plowed under. But always have the nice bucks by having unpressured food plots. I find that does even resident does follow the crops more then mature bucks.
Still pretty high Russell. I’m from Cass City MI originally, live in AK now but spend Oct-Nov down in the Midwest hunting. Sadly all it takes is a few bad apples.
Mr. Langworthy, I live on Deckerville Rd. The property I was talking about is on Elmwood Rd. This is such a neat message. I moved to Caro form Clio when I was 10 years old. My best friend in Clio was Kelly Langworthy. I started bow hunting in 1975 with an old recurve. My first area which me and a friend hunted was just East of Hurdscorner Rd. The river that you crossed is White Creek and it runs thru my backyard. There is plenty of state land close and not overly hunted. I believe there is less people in the woods then there was in the 80’s and 90’s. Make the trip with your Grand it will be worth it. I can give you a location or 2 where you’ll collect some great memories and maybe a deer or two.
Russell Langworthy you are speaking my language. My brother-in-law won the Deford buck pole in the 80’s. Who knows you may have seen it. I have 8 grands that love the creek and crayfish that live there. We found our hunting spot because DNR at that time in the 70’s did hunts with pheasants called Put and Take. They did a release in some woods alone Deckerville road and we seen a lot more deer then pheasants. Was a great bow spot for years. I think I hunted where you did. It was a spot where I seen my first wild turkey while hunting. It was some land between Broadway to the north and Deckerville to the south. Great number of white oaks back there. We park at a friends that butted up to the state land there.
Russell Langworthy so cool hearing my memories wrote down by another! Best wishes to you and the Grands. Another big thanks to Jeff for giving out the best information and bringing hunters together! So cool!
A rooting chestnut seeds video brought me here. Heck yeah, I'm a subscriber but it didn't notify me. Glad I found this video. 🇺🇸👊
Ha, that's interesting Chris! Welcome...really happy to have you here 👍 Thank you and Happy Easter!
It’s pouring rain here again I got my garden turned and put the disc to it and I’m getting ready to put my plots in be safe out there and GOD BLESS you and your family brother Amen 🙏
Great comments. We are slowly converting more land over, and trying to develop better entrance and exit routes. Will start spraying simazine next week on some of the switch that didn't do as well, then in a few weeks hit the switch again with 2-4D and RU. Then get the buckwheat planted. Thanks for all you assistance. give me a call when you are in the area, and most of all stay safe!!!!!
Thanks a lot Bob! I love to hear about all that you are doing...really hope to see you soon. You stay safe too...I am trying to do my best and still earn a living!
Thanks, God Bless to you and Diane!!! Hope to hear from you soon.
Great info Jeff! Im just south of Atlanta Ga and we have a bunch of AG about 2 miles east of our 200 acres that gets hammered up until September. Needless to say we planted some small but effective food plots and I couldnt believe how many bucks started to show up on the camera in October near our micro plots that we created in open patches of the woods. We didnt have much money but because there was diversity and plenty of bedding, cover, and browse I had two HUGE bucks showing up on camera. I unfortunately spooked one at 6am one morning. He was an 11 pointer that this year will probably be in the 160 to 170 range. We have a more clear strategy this year but I think its just a matter of time before a monster gets killed! Thanks again Jeff👍
Happy Easter to you and your family from mid Michigan. keep up the good vids. Your giving lots of options
Thanks Jeff...hope you are doing OK there in MI! Happy Easter to you and your family ☺️
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 all healthy here.
Hope you have time for family today. Thanks for another free lesson ! Old habits find me with strips of ag- 10% alfalfa and 20 % corn. Not sure my dad (84 yrs old) and cousin (late 60s) will change from those patterns. We have lots of depth to hunt as deer come in, what plots are the best third feeding? 1-2 hidden acres of winter rye? Crab apples? What gives me bang for my bucks third feeding?
Happy Easter Jeff god bless and keep you always this man has taught me so much when all around me nothing but non believers telling me this & that all so glad I stuck with my gut feeling about Jeff for this I am greatful can’t wait for all the dots to connect great video
Hi Paul...thanks for the kind words AND for working so hard! Happy Easter my friend! Awesome watching you out the dots together...
Clover plots in the south work pretty well thru November which is our peak rut month. Also, simply mowing (4 inches or higher) and maintaining some small openings in the weeds throughout the summer creates fresh growth early bow season. We are allowed to bait, and mineral can swing deer thru your ambush spot. Even if the bucks have lost some interest in the mineral, doe will continue to hit it and drag the bucks in looking for love. For myself, if you don't own the property you hunt on, sometimes you are just kinda stuck with what you got.
Great Video! I learn so much listening to your experience. I will be moving to an 8 acre acreage, so i need to be very efficient and have a plan with 3 acres of food plots. It is so much fun just planning. Happy Easter!
I have AG on and around my farm....after they harvest beans ,the deer eat the cast off beans and if it was warm enough to regrow they eat the shoots 2"-4" tall in fall.not one or two deer 10- 20 deer at a time...
Same here, and corn too.
Happy Easter Jeff. Great video as always. Where do you purchase your buckwheat from?
Jeff would you please make some videos about habitat improvement in the mountains? Not Ag land.
Thanks for the information. The last two videos have been very helpful. Are there cases where you recommend dozing mature hardwoods to create food plot openings? Thanks
He is RISEN! Happy Easter
I'm a farmer. I greatly appreciate your insight on managing deer. How to influence the harvest for the benefit of my hunters, yet reduce crop damage. (I have yet to lease land even though I have a lot of pressure to do so.)
HE sure has...Happy Easter Vincent! And thank you...I do believe that you can have a balance. Part of the strategy for you is to place the deer on food plots for the 3rd feeding of the day and not on your ag fields at that time.
I hope that it all helps you figure it out Vincent! Also, thanks for being a farmer ☺️
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I also hope that you can become a liaison for farmers/hunters. Issues of crop loss, while significant, are often dwarfed by the conflict of trespassing, hunters wanting to drive through crop to make entrance, hunters who won't kill does. (~$75k last year for me. That's enough to pay for my children's college.)
Posting and adoption of the 3S's, eliminating bedding and apple trees are the alternative deer management many farmers are forced to adopt.
As usual, loved the video. I follow you, but I will also take a bonus rut buck, if he walks by. Anything that make my knee's shake & heart pound is my target buck- I watch all of your videos, so I know you still get buck fever as well!
Happy Easter!
None of our business but my family wants to know about your tatoo! LOL
Hi Jeff, Happy Easter. Would you be more apt to put a food plot near residential housing, or put the bedding near residential housing and the food plot further in. This would be a wooded setting. Thanks Jeff
Hi ADK, you are welcome! Most often I would put the food near the residential area, to maximize the depth of cover to layer doe and then buck bedding into the depth of the cover. You bring the deer out to the food in a safe location for the afternoon feeding, and then let them hit ornamental shrubs, bird feeders and neighborhood handouts after dark ☺️ Sets up some great morning hunting deep into the cover...
Hope that helps, Happy Easter!
More great advice, that is exactly what has happen with my property.
Thanks James... appreciate the feedback and I hope that there is some way that you can turn it around!
Awsome strategy on this!! Appreciate your input.
I have an hourglass shaped 40 acres in the middle of 300 to 400 acres of ag I can’t change that because i lease the hunting rights only. I’m putting in food plots this year and I’ve done some habitat improvements for bedding and I’ve noticed a significant difference in deer movements but am I wasting my time trying to improve the property when I can’t change the Agriculture portion
You are doing awesome...a huge help! That is the case with most lands it seems. As long as you are working to supply food source #3 you will be on track ☺️
BTW...your user name...man, we seem close to Marshall Law than ever. Not sure which is scarier...
Whitetail Habitat Solutions I agree. No one wants to be sick but I feel it’s been blown way out of proportion. I myself am going to go on with living life as usual and hope this thing is over soon. My job is about as Isolated as yours so I have very limited human contact anyway
That's great to hear! I have a trip coming up in MI soon. Governor there is an absolute nut. Need to work tho, even if alone in the woods.
Great video btw keep them coming!!!
I wish I woulda hired you! Rather than paying for an aerial map with “plant food plots and an access trail” advice from a 4 hour walkthrough in MI
Hi Brent...I'm sorry to hear that! Hopefully you were able to get something out of whoever visited with you? I love MI by the way! Just finishing my 10th client on this trip tomorrow. Was here in Feb, and will be here again in June and August. Hopefully I can help you out some day!
Happy Easter another great video Jeff!
Thank you very much Guy, Happy Easter to you too!
Great video and happy Easter! What type of plots would you recommend for land that holds cattle? Not sure how to handle that on my lease
What do u recommend when your unable to cut out and create large food plots, or cut down trees. Extremely over pressured area, small land, surrounded by hunting leases, but large deer...
Happy Easter, Yes you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket!
Happy Easter Jeff, I was wondering if you had any tips for how to clear out an area for a food plot with no big equipment. Will the stumps be an issue for the plot!
Check out his no till videos!! Great info. And check soil PH. Thats where most people go wrong
Hey Jeff, if I plant my food plots with sunflower,corn, millet, chufa in spring for the turkeys and labor day dove shoot. Is that going to negatively affect the deer herd? I don't want to create a summer doe factory. Thanks Jeff, you're the man. Btw I'm in so.central Georgia.
Jeff what do you thing about planting solfmass trees?
If no Ag and all woods, what’s there 4th and 5th feedings?
Hey brother I’ve been busy lately and I’ve missed people’s videos yours to I’m trying to get caught up on watching
hi, from cass city, great video`s jeff P.
Thank you very much ☺️ I need to get back to the area some time...miss my old stomping grounds!
Happy Easter Jeff!
Im in northern ontario and often our food plots are often under a foot of snow come deer season. Thinking of switching to corn and rye grass. Thoughts?
What do deer like to eat in their 3rd feeding in Nov? Dec? Jan?
Glad to see you are using first lite now!! I seen you use maximus red arrows? I used them for a couple years really like how they fly very consistent spine but ive had them break on several deer. Please switch arrows they are junk.
Happy Easter Jeff.
You have completely changed my way of thinking on whitetail habitat.
Do recommend putting food plot mix on traveling tails? If so what type would you recommend?
They way my property is laid out ,5ac
it would be hard to hold deer on, but can I maximize daylight travel and improve deer herd ?
Hi Ed...happy Easter to you too! Planting trails in a small parcel can easily used to move deer around the land and set ups stand locations.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 .
Thank you.
I have 2 acres to hunt on and no way to plow it because i can't get to it.what do you suggest I feed the deer besides corn.
Wow. Y'all should really be telling this to the deer on my property I live on. I have a separate piece of land thats all woods surrounded by woods with one field on one side for a ways. But the piece i live on is a strip of woods with a corn field on one side and woods on another and an alfalfa/grass field on the opposite of the corn. The neighbors property is all yard and shrubs. A big corn field below it. And they lay in her front yard from October to January all the time. And the 140+in 8 point we seen 2 yrs in a row was bedding in the lower corn field across the road from our house almost every evening. We couldnt find him forever during season till someone drove down around checking the field edge n he got jumped out of corn. Multiple times from there we know he was bedded in corn. Last buck i shot on this land was a 157 in 10 point that was FULL of corn and some briars in between. That was end of first week of rifle in PA here. So I'm not saying in any way your wrong because obviously where your at your successful and what u do works. However I will say I think maybe your bashing ag a lil to much. Weve used corn fields to pull deer off of other lands to ours because we had the corn n they didn't. Yes we have the woods n browse to as well. But so did they. In an area where there's nothing but corn n beans as far as u can see I think your on to something. But here where the next corn field might be 3 4 5 miles away I think its a whole diff game. And to say it makes deer unpredictable I disagree with 100 percent. Weve used surrounding ag fields as an indicator for yrs of when there goin to be where. And there's a solid group of over 30 deer herded up every winter behind my house. So I'm not sure I understand why u put quite the bashing on all ag fields n basically make it sound like ag fields are the downfall of deer herds. Which is absolutely not true. Esp where deer dont have the browse to support the size of the herd. Yes they prefer variety but fact is they are opportunists and survivors. They do what it takes to survive. So maybe u should start telling all the deer that spend their days in corn fields they aren't being proper deer n they should eat better lol. Cause the 157 in 10 on my wall who we know bedded in the corn field and front yard of the neighbor. Or in the field across road. Or right on the edge of the alfalfa field in the Christmas and larch trees didnt seem to get your memo that he should be not bedding in corn :p. It took 2 3 yrs of many people on the surrounding properties hunting this buck as well as me to finally get him and I got him out of the alfalfa field with a bunch of does that were feeding in the alfalfa. During the late season after christmas they are always either in the alfalfa field or in our corn field which by then is harvested and it don't seem to bother them as they are there every evening like clockwork. When the corn is up they prefer wondering around the edge and browsing on corn leaves n grass n that to me makes them far more oredictable. Basically guiding them right down the open path to my tree. I mean I realize turning 100% of your property into a big corn field is obviously goin to hurt u and not be huntable except right away in morning n right before dark when theyre moving n feeding. But the way weve been able to execute and see and keep deer by a combination of say 70% woods 25% corn field n 5% pasture or so not including the neighbors which has alot of woods n cover but has the huge alfalfa field as well. And fields on the back side of the ridge surrounded by woods on the next property before it goes up onto mountain. So i agree that ALL of one thing is bad but to say its just bad n u shouldnt have any ag on your land I disagree. I think it more so depends on the surrounding areas. Your deer herd. And your situation as to if n how bad ag is. Id be curious to describe the land more n hear your opinion of what you would do diff if u could just to get ideas. We do use food plots. However its about 40 acre if that I hunt behind my house I'm refering to. And the other property thats woods is 60 acre. So it also is a bit more out of our control as to what the deer herd does n wants to do. We dont have 3 400 acres to control every aspect of that deers day. Its impossible around here. Deer just dont stay in an area that small anywhere around here thats not a fence. If a doe stays in a square mile back here her whole life id say she was an exception. The 10 i shot was seen the beginning of archery 3 4 miles out the ridge behind my house. And as far as a mile the other way toward river later in season. So with his range theres no way for me to even think about controlling half of his day every day let alone his every move like you can. Yes he preferred our land n right beside cone season but he still traveled during rut and before. I respect everthing you have to say n I listen to alot of your content. Id just like to get more of a dialogue on this topic and what u would do on my land because of how u put things n I've been making that all work so well for so many yrs. However if it was explained diff or we got to talk about it some maybe it could even be better and im always open to bettering my hunt. In an avid archery hunter as u are and that's my most time spent in the woods is last couple weeks of archery and if need be first week of rifle which ive only needed that one yr in last 6. So if I could make that even better im all ears. But when the ag is what has killed me and my family so many of our bucks in not sure I understand why u bash it so much. If u specified this was for Midwest states n states where its more ag than woods then id understand. But u talk as tho u mean every property u manage ag is bad n I'm not sure how that applies to where I am where tjeres more woods n browse than ag fields
A wealth of knowledge here - been a subscriber and watcher for a while -- interested in hiring Jeff to help with our property in Western PA.
Jeff I did my first food plot in late last season but did not grow till it warmed up this year. Is it ok if I let it be till summer and see what happens? I did a clover brassica mix. Thanks in advance
So I have about 25% of and an 80 acre parcel in Ohio that we just freed up that had cattle on it. Its in the center of the property and I would to convert that into something special. Is CRP mixed with fall food plots a good mix? Would love to chat!
Hi Justin...converting that to Switchgrass, food plots and diversity pockets would be outstanding! Have a Happy Easter!
I never chat with anyone about their land...but I do visit over 100 clients per year on site visits scheduled several months in advance. Wish I had more time! We are still finishing scheduling a trip in January of 2021... East side of Ohio around New Philly. Hope all of the info helps you out!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Do you have a video on how to create diversity pockets?
Jeff, I am planting linear food plots in an old 5 acre field, what seed to you recommend?
So for a plot what would you plant if all the ag around you beans corn n alfalfa n acorns ? Or is it by leaving a part standing ?
How much would you charge for a consult?
Can you do a video on the top shrubs to plant for food and cover
So what’s the answer for best food for whitetail????
I'm confused because just about every evening hunt these deer come out of the woods funneled by natural and man made terrain and head straight for the ag field harvested or not.
My hunting property is Majority AG. My exact problem seems to be finding a pattern of movement. Would love to send my info to you. Happy Easter Mr Jeff
It is so critical to define daylight movement and AG is so bad for it.
I visit about 100 clients per year...this year about 130...would be happy to help out!
Happy Easter Sebastian 👍
I am on rasin river my land floods what can u plant
As always, a very insightful, educational video. Happy Resurrection day to you and your family. Unique time to not celebrate Easter with friends and family at church and at home.
Thank you very much Chris. Such unique times...happy Easter to you and your family.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 may God richly bless and protect you and your family!
Love to hear if you manage any PA property for anyone and what your opinions of PA are and if u feel as tho it is diff in sone ways than out where there isnt pressure or if its just the area im in maybe. Or if there's always exceptions to the rule. Again ive never hunted out west. Ive hunted sika in Maryland for years but that's a diff game in itself yet lol. But just curious as to why it seems as tho its working for me or if maybe I am settling for what ive thought was as good as we could get n I'm missing out. Just cause its what ive known.
How do I go about having you check out my property?
What are your thoughts about supplemental feeding for the deer? I am planning on having a perennial white clover and chicory field and then having a corn trough a couple 100 yards away. What are your thoughts about this? Thank you!
So true. So true
What is Ag ?
I hunt on a 250 acre property with the cover on the back of the property and 40 acres of ag fields in the front wud it work 2 put food plots between the ag and cover 2 define deer movement?
Hi Bradley...that's exactly what I do. Let them feed in your plots on a season long food source before sending them out to the local ag fields after dark...those plots need to represent the bottom of the funnel of daylight movement.
For me, Ag doesn't mean no fall season food. My farm, like many today, is beans-on-beans. And it is run as no-till with a winter cover crop of wheat that deer love.
great listen
Very informative but at times too repetitive
Seems like the hunters that harvest the best bucks around here,feed the deer year around on food plots,and auto corn and supplement feeders.baiting is legal here.
We are 1 day closer to the best 3.5 months if the year
As a farmer that loves whitetail hunting this is a hard video to watch 😂
THIS IS EXACTLY MY PROBLEM! 😭
I needed to google ag... I thought why is he talking about silver. 🤣
Hey easy on the farmers buddy
Ag =desert most of the year! Ag that has dozed, tiled, and mowed water ways are the worst!
Well, being in the southern eastern woods. Deer lay 3 feet in on edge of field and come out when you leave at nite. So, unless you can fly in over their heads, you busted. Like a jungle here in the woods, so just about forget sneaking up on them. So my suggestion here is get in your stand 5am and sit for a couple days to let everythi,g calm down. Then start hunting. Midwest hunting don't work in the eastern pine briar jjungles. Hard woods are non existent. Good luck all. Cheers!
Sounds like my rifle season spot in Michigan! I go in the night before and spend the night in the shack and don't leave until I get one on the ground. Hell , if I'm not in my other spots atleast 2 hrs before first light I'm screwed! And all day sits are the only way to go for us
Chineese food bread spaghetti egg rolls pretzels jello cake mashed potatoes
Exactly! 😁
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Jeff I'm serious...my Mike deer in Colorado begged for it
And I still cant understand how anyone could ever expect to keep a herd of even 15 deer on a 60 acre parcel. Like deer don't stay in that small of an area. No deer ive ever seen has ever stayed in that small of an area. Now behind my house we see the same rotation of deer throughout the week. We'll see 10-15 one evening. 4 5 the next n then 20+ the next. Then 4 5 6 for a day or 2 then the 15 again. The other evenings theyre in the alfalfa on the neighbor beside us. Or back in the orchard. Its over an area of say 500 square yards or maybe a bit more. But they rotate. If they cane out in the same spot n went n bedded in the exact same spots each day the predators would pick them off so fast we wouldnt have deer. They have always rotated n moved around to change it up n not do the same thing every day. So far as anyone around here is concerned if your dont have that 4 500 acres to manage your never gonna keep the exact same deer n control everything about that population like u are on your properties. One of the nicest buck i shot years ago was a buck we pulled off other lands in the rut that wed never seen cause we had the doe. But there is no way to keep the same 10 deer on a 60 acre plot forever. Bucks run bucks off. Bigger bucks travel in. We do however have the property that the deer all cone to and seem to stay on when the season starts n they feel any pressure. We have the cover to keep them. I like food plots and use them as well. But the neighbors haven't one picture of my 10 in the daylight on their food plot. Hes been seen in the woods out of season in the daylight but he was never seen in the light on any of the food plots ik of around on neighboring properties. And they're all in the middle of woods. Surrounded by woods. But he came out to the alfalfa (ag) field with the does in the late afternoon n came far enough down to me to shoot just before dark. They were headed into the larch trees and Christmas trees to go down n across n up onto my corn field. I still think its all in where u are and how you utilize the tools u have. Esp on a small parcel like mine. Even if we had everything your saying and more its just to small to not have them travel to other nearby areas and make rounds back n forth. Around here having the land with cover in between the pressure is the biggest thing. The property they prefer over the others for cover under pressure.
Ag is bad you say. What the fuck I am eating in winter.
Very, very poor choice for any kind of private land strategy for the hunting season. Unreliable low value...