the only thing that Guoliang is lacking here is proper "words". Xu needs to hit the ball from below equator with open angle to use the spin already present in the ball. simple as that. here coach is just showing how to position yourself in relation to the ball before hitting BUT he deosn't explain where to hit the ball and at which angle! this is where you see the difference beetween true talent (coach guoliang) and true talent earned by hard work like Xu. Xu can get it only by working hard. he doesn't have the genuine ball feeling that coach has.
@@JayB-lz6yd Liu said he didn't do much serve practice.Yet he had the best serve ever. Like Waldner,he had a special feeling for spin eventhough he was a short pips player.
@@JayB-lz6yd dude. what Liu was explaining is way beyond the basic stuff you mentioned. Xu Xin didn't get into the primary national team without knowing where to hit the ball to loop backspin.
xu xin looks like he is not one of top players in the world. as though he is 10-year-old guy and has been engagin in table tennis for few years !!! LOVE this discipline by Liu ! Keep going !
+rambo man I think the main point of the stroke is to minimize body movements so that the opponent cannot predict the direction of the ball. But I don't think XX needs to learn that.
Guoliang wants xu xin to hit the ball with more fast contact rather than top spin. But each time xu xin will do a top spin. Top spin's weakness is it gives time for opponent to react, which is not a problem for top players.
+Idrus R yeah but its not quit fair for xx though...when LG shows him how to do it there is way less underspin on it...so LG really can flip it to the left or right! And Xu Xin somehow has to do it softer with more spin due to more chop on the ball.
Liu used to play with short pups he is used to flat hitting with as much speed as possible, his play style is very different from XX and he is trying to teach it's strength right now, XX is a master away from the table but Ma Lin and Liu Guoliang are close to the table specialists so XX could learn a lot
It feels great to see that Xu Xin - A technical player that he is, learning so fucking much. Hats off to Liu! I was actually rooting for Ma long to win the gold. Damn I'm not sure now. lol
that is a fast loop over the table, just like a forehand loop flip. Xu Xin playimg style is kinda waiting and he likes to loop away from table and thats why I think the Coach insist him to loop faster over the table as a combination but powerful shot
@0.59 How can Liu hit the ball with such lightning speed, with (looks like)a shake hander's racket? He's showing XX to boost ball speed with waist muscle power to outpace the opponent. Fascinating body coordination.
+rambo man yes, very weird. all the chinese players are very weird because they try to do the hardest things in the highest quality. Liu demo'd to Xu how he has mastered that weird but tough shot consistently and masterfully.
@@ramboman1213 he is bad 😂 such a crazy statement against one of the greatest players and coaches EVER, he is comparable to waldner as he is a grand slam CHAMPION you can't even try to say he is bad 😂😂😂
After 4 years this payed off, since 2019, XX has become a real Superman,his unpredictable for hand stroke is annoying and even his back hand is insane right now, even Malong, Fan XaoPang and other top pro players were beaten up. Especially, the screaming boy gets nervous everytime he's facing XX and never wins a single match.
The screaming boy 😂😂😂 I completely agree though harimoto is so annoying. His skill is undeniable but he is so cocky and brash when he still has so much to learn, so glad to see him get shut up by my favorite player ever! XX is the best, my second fav is Joo Sae Hyuk if I wasn't penhold I would try my best to copy Joo's defending style!
In China.. Table Tennis Training between Coach n Player to get Diligence into 100% Perfectionist. Its Crazy.. And that's how they remain World No.1. And that is Professional. 100% Focus... Super Amazing.
he's teaching "hidden" forehand loop using different racket angles to sidespin it to change the direction. his criticism of xx as other ppl said is not to drag and open the shoulder, and that his movements are too obvious
He was teaching Xu Xin how to coordinate his whole body to hit the ball. Throughout the process, he commented and demonstrated after each return to show Xu Xin what he did not do well and what he did well. It's very rare for the head coach of a top level table tennis team in the world to be teaching a player such subtle movements.
These guys seem to be on their way to learn how to hit a ball, soon they can go to competition and test those skills in real life! :) Joking aside.. amazing how well Liu can hit the ball and xu, even though how great player he is, still seems like a novice trying to learn what "The Master" is trying to teach.
liu is teaching his technique which clearly cannot recover for next ball. Liu's technique is playing a shakehand stroke using penhold grip which clearly does not fit. As you can see today Xu Xin is still playing is own style forehand and not the one Liu taught here.
LGL demonstrates: schooled. that's pretty insane. like a ma lin shot. you could barely read the movement until it's already gone. ma lin trained while lgl still played. he can do all these moves well.
Velho ele já estava puto mesmo kkk pq o Tênis de Mesa hoje é em cima na mesa e o Xu Xin espera a bola cair e o Liu tentando tirar esse vício dele, mas ta foda, hoje jogadores da china que são tops dentro da Mesa pra mim são Ma long, Fan Zendong e Zang Jike.
+James Smith I dont get it. Xu Xin beat Ma Long in the Chinese Trails and still he didnt get he place. Zhang Jike probably got it because he will retire soon haha
It is almost like Xu Xin is clueless what the coach is asking him to do. This is actually bad coaching. At that level Every person has a style and technique. Hard to change that unless it is his Achilles heel. Liu is coaching him like a newbie. For a player at Xu xins level it should be about tactics, ball placements , strategy etc, not this basic stuff which he probably will fall back to his old style in the crunch under pressure
Do you really believe you know better than Liu Guoliang on how to coach? Yes, top players have their own styles but they are also expected to be adaptable. Without adaptability, they cannot improve, much less make it to the Chinese national team in the first place.
I love watching Liu's face after he himself hits the loop. They sort of stare at each other for like 2 seconds every time.
+Aaron Kiefer Not only his face. His entire body language is like "That´s how it´s done, bitch!" :D
the only thing that Guoliang is lacking here is proper "words". Xu needs to hit the ball from below equator with open angle to use the spin already present in the ball. simple as that. here coach is just showing how to position yourself in relation to the ball before hitting BUT he deosn't explain where to hit the ball and at which angle! this is where you see the difference beetween true talent (coach guoliang) and true talent earned by hard work like Xu. Xu can get it only by working hard. he doesn't have the genuine ball feeling that coach has.
@@JayB-lz6yd Liu said he didn't do much serve practice.Yet he had the best serve ever. Like Waldner,he had a special feeling for spin eventhough he was a short pips player.
@@JayB-lz6yd dude. what Liu was explaining is way beyond the basic stuff you mentioned. Xu Xin didn't get into the primary national team without knowing where to hit the ball to loop backspin.
@@JayB-lz6yd Liu's approval: Ke Yi (it's fine)
It's amazing that a player with the amazing skill like xu xin can learn so much even at the level he is at. Stunning
Because Liu Guoliang himself is a legendary champion and the best coach ever in Chinese TT.
everyone starts from zero
xu xin looks like he is not one of top players in the world. as though he is 10-year-old guy and has been engagin in table tennis for few years !!! LOVE this discipline by Liu ! Keep going !
0:55 Omg, Liu still has it! The silence after that move.. priceless 😂
that's the same face he makes when Waldner made a shot that he can't reach or he doesn't understand how waldner did it..
Great coaching by Liu Guoliang, also didn't know top athletes such as Xu Xin still get taught how to do strokes like those, very interesting!
Such a weird stroke
+rambo man I think the main point of the stroke is to minimize body movements so that the opponent cannot predict the direction of the ball. But I don't think XX needs to learn that.
Coach Liu clearly plays better. He's just older, but he definitely has a good touch. He didn't miss one while demonstrating.
Liu is the smartest player in the history and now the best coach. Penhold's future now is in these two men's hand.
jialiangleo I'd say Waldner is the smartest player, but Liu is certainly the best coach.
penhold players are so limited nowadays..
liu was a grand slam champion as well . amazing touching
World No.1 continues to be a student. Great video!
Liu Guoliang's still got it!
劉国梁のドヤ顔がすごい
めちゃくちゃうまいけど
しかも赫帥が玉拾いという
Guoliang wants xu xin to hit the ball with more fast contact rather than top spin. But each time xu xin will do a top spin.
Top spin's weakness is it gives time for opponent to react, which is not a problem for top players.
+Idrus R B cause his reaction is late and far from table.
+Idrus R yeah but its not quit fair for xx though...when LG shows him how to do it there is way less underspin on it...so LG really can flip it to the left or right! And Xu Xin somehow has to do it softer with more spin due to more chop on the ball.
+Joe D.ps: additionally another lesson was to flip the ball to the left or right corner with almost the same bodymotion i think...
Liu used to play with short pups he is used to flat hitting with as much speed as possible, his play style is very different from XX and he is trying to teach it's strength right now, XX is a master away from the table but Ma Lin and Liu Guoliang are close to the table specialists so XX could learn a lot
the forehand shot at 1:00 used to be done a lot by Waldner. change the wrist for placing the ball making it unpredictable for the opponent
Truly. I almost saw waldner when the coach made this shot
Liu Guoliang isnt just some coach
Yeah, with super heavy sidespin.
It feels great to see that Xu Xin - A technical player that he is, learning so fucking much. Hats off to Liu! I was actually rooting for Ma long to win the gold. Damn I'm not sure now. lol
hey it's cool that liu demos these kind of shots.
perfectly demonstrate.👍
that is a fast loop over the table, just like a forehand loop flip. Xu Xin playimg style is kinda waiting and he likes to loop away from table and thats why I think the Coach insist him to loop faster over the table as a combination but powerful shot
This is so awesome :)
@0.59 How can Liu hit the ball with such lightning speed, with (looks like)a shake hander's racket? He's showing XX to boost ball speed with waist muscle power to outpace the opponent. Fascinating body coordination.
놀랐다. 그 쉬신이 아직도 배워야할 기술이 있다니... 류궈량 대단하다!
Liu forever a beast!
Does anyone have the link to spoof version of this video?
Thanks
1:05 - LOL that faceeee :D
And you thought nobody tried to replace Liu as head coach, here is the answer to why he is still there.
He is bad that's the weirdest loop ever
+rambo man yes, very weird. all the chinese players are very weird because they try to do the hardest things in the highest quality. Liu demo'd to Xu how he has mastered that weird but tough shot consistently and masterfully.
+rambo man how is that a weird loop you're just uneducated lol
@@ramboman1213 he is bad 😂 such a crazy statement against one of the greatest players and coaches EVER, he is comparable to waldner as he is a grand slam CHAMPION you can't even try to say he is bad 😂😂😂
Also he is not looping he is teaching a forehand flick id like to see you loop a short serve or return it is impossible
Great coach
Is Liu playing with a shakehand blade ?
World no.1 and still got things to learn
After 4 years this payed off, since 2019, XX has become a real Superman,his unpredictable for hand stroke is annoying and even his back hand is insane right now, even Malong, Fan XaoPang and other top pro players were beaten up. Especially, the screaming boy gets nervous everytime he's facing XX and never wins a single match.
The screaming boy 😂😂😂 I completely agree though harimoto is so annoying. His skill is undeniable but he is so cocky and brash when he still has so much to learn, so glad to see him get shut up by my favorite player ever! XX is the best, my second fav is Joo Sae Hyuk if I wasn't penhold I would try my best to copy Joo's defending style!
what a giant amount of feedback
Even with his level, there are much more to learn
In China.. Table Tennis Training between Coach n Player to get Diligence into 100% Perfectionist. Its Crazy.. And that's how they remain World No.1.
And that is Professional.
100% Focus... Super Amazing.
You can never stop learning
声音太嘈杂，我大概听了下。其实整体就是，许昕在击球后，身体一直都不稳定，虽然击球效果不错，可教练一直对他的身体平衡不满意。
所以刘国梁教练反复示范可以看到他击球的时候，下半身极其稳定，击球后，上身扔保持平衡。
尤其 1:20 这里是最典型的示范。
教练主要教
1.不要晃动身体。要等到了合适的位置，稳定后再击球，不用着急过早击球造成的动作变形。
2.教的是，利用手臂、手腕的力量来击球，不要过度依赖身体其他部位的力量，比如腰部。
3.重心要放低，蹲下身体与球台一个水平面。
0:01 许昕击球后，但身体不稳。教练说：身体不要动，身体平衡。
0:08 许昕做出了一个正确的击球。
0:25 许昕的肩膀有些靠前，导致手臂用不上力。
0:43 虽然许昕击中了球。但教练仍不满意。说「身体已经扑上来了」所以才有了后面一系列的示范。
1:20 教练做出了一个经典示范。身体非常稳。
1:34 许昕不晃动身体了，可并没有下蹲，重心不够低。
2:09 许昕做了一个正确的击球。
2:13 许昕又一次击球上台，但教练说「脚又动了」，左脚的移动造成了身体不稳。
2:18 许昕做出了一个正确的选择，虽然他还是脚移动了。但上身还是稳定的，教练说「这个是对的」。
2:30 击球后，教练说，这是对的，你确定安全了在出手。
2:36 尽管又一次击球上台，但教练还是不满意，说「再放嘛，确定安全了」
几个球，教练都不满意。所以在 2:58 开始，教练做示范。你会发现他上身根本没有晃动，而且脚多余的动作，但许昕每次击球后会有很大的晃动。
3:19 教练说：蹲下，蹲下，蹲下。
3:45 教练说：身体不要「拖」，强调，身体在安全的位置。
4:03 看看教练的嫌弃的脸……许昕的重心又不稳了。
4:09 虽然许昕击球效果不理想，但身体是稳定的，得到了教练的肯定，只要加入手腕力量，会成为一个好球。
4:21 教练开始教许昕，用手腕的力量。
劉國樑教導的這個技術是小鉗式握法的，所以才可以使用手臂跟手腕的力量。但是許昕是大鉗式，手腕跟手講求的是穩定，這就難以用到手腕跟前臂的技術，主要都靠腰。所以我不明白叫許昕練這個是要加強前台技術嗎，還是甚麼原因。
主要是练近台拉球，你看那球的最高点都不出台子，许昕不适应，怕拉球时球拍打到台子
Would Love to know what Liu is saying if somebody could translate that. Would be awesome
+Liu Bay say keeping your footwork and body with the ball
+Liu Bay
"TOO SLOW! FASTER! HURRY THE UP YIU BAD BOI!"
he's teaching "hidden" forehand loop using different racket angles to sidespin it to change the direction. his criticism of xx as other ppl said is not to drag and open the shoulder, and that his movements are too obvious
Мастер-класс от Лю Го Ляна. Насколько он хорош!.
Top!
Alternative title: How to coach the World no. 3 (formerly no. 1)
Scott Do
Nice half long pushes by Lui
Awesome stuff. English subtitles would be greatly appreciated.
I will get this done soon.
@@jiankuo I'll be waiting.
already uploaded in my videos.@@chino8223
hao shuai only a training partner now?
that staredown at 1:03 kills me everytime 😭💀
Liu gou liang???
Is there anyone, who can explain or translate the dialogue of the trainer Liu and his nice trainee Xu Xin ? If so, i appreciate.
He was teaching Xu Xin how to coordinate his whole body to hit the ball. Throughout the process, he commented and demonstrated after each return to show Xu Xin what he did not do well and what he did well.
It's very rare for the head coach of a top level table tennis team in the world to be teaching a player such subtle movements.
The difference between a hard rubber (xu xin), LG is prob with some tenergy doing this...
すごいな、世界トップの選手に体の向きや振る角度で相手に打球を予測させるなと教えてる・・
翻訳お願いします！
anyone can english sub this for me,please?
master Liu !
These guys seem to be on their way to learn how to hit a ball, soon they can go to competition and test those skills in real life! :)
Joking aside.. amazing how well Liu can hit the ball and xu, even though how great player he is, still seems like a novice trying to learn what "The Master" is trying to teach.
LGL is just telling Xu xin to quickly transfer body weight from right to left leg during looping mid length balls.
在这段视频中，Ryu突出什么？
1:00
1:02 😁
liu is teaching his technique which clearly cannot recover for next ball. Liu's technique is playing a shakehand stroke using penhold grip which clearly does not fit. As you can see today Xu Xin is still playing is own style forehand and not the one Liu taught here.
I think it is totally the opposite. Liu was teaching the traditional penhold forehand tricks.
Penhold style is all about short game and third ball attack.The last real penholder was Ma Lin.
中国乒乓.. 神一般的训练, 为的是..
登峰造极, 独一无二, 无可替代。
i was shocked at 1:04
Please LG, teach XX how to do a proper backhand ahaha
LGL is like, "I'm going to stare at you like I'm doing something different, but I'm looping the exact same way. Psych!"
대단하다 류궈량
저런 감독밑에서 세계적인 선수가 나오는거지..
니 좃
why you only scratch the ball, you should push! if you only loop, you can;t initiate leading attack
Xu xin have big reaspect foor the traineer
this is booster！！！！！！！
許昕は塗ってないべ
1:03
LGL demonstrates: schooled. that's pretty insane. like a ma lin shot. you could barely read the movement until it's already gone.
ma lin trained while lgl still played. he can do all these moves well.
17teacmrocks
This is the reason why Top 3 Chinese players backed out because they miss Liu Guoliang after being promoted
Nossa ta explicado porque os caras são os melhores do mundo. Esse técnico e muito chato...kkkkkkkk
KKKKKKKKKK
Esse técnico tbm joga mt, acho q melhor q o xu xin.. claro, na época do auge dele kkk
+Junior Levrone caraca kkkkkk liu ja tava pra matar o xu xin kkkkk
Velho ele já estava puto mesmo kkk pq o Tênis de Mesa hoje é em cima na mesa e o Xu Xin espera a bola cair e o Liu tentando tirar esse vício dele, mas ta foda, hoje jogadores da china que são tops dentro da Mesa pra mim são Ma long, Fan Zendong e Zang Jike.
Guoliang is Yoda !!!
倒幕不可避
旁边球台穿红衣服的、反手拉球很爆!!~~
徐晨皓
Xu Xin can still go to the olympics?
Xu Xin will play the team event, but Zhang Jike got the second singles place, so no singles for Xu Xin
+James Smith I dont get it. Xu Xin beat Ma Long in the Chinese Trails and still he didnt get he place. Zhang Jike probably got it because he will retire soon haha
姜还是老的辣
that forehand malin always do that
It is a shame Xu Xin is out for Rio 2016. Next time maybe.
錢克瑋 He is most probably not getting a spot in 2020.
@@andreialexandruparfeni7129 you were correct.
0:56 I'm boss 😎
Xu xin's should is not stable enough...look at LGL's shoulder.
有点寸劲发力的味道
Học trò giao thì ông bấm nặng . ông giao xuxin nhả nhẹ lại ông chả quăng được :D thua
1:09 许昕完全懵了 2:19 “这个就对了”也还是没对
Liu show time after 04:20😂
It is almost like Xu Xin is clueless what the coach is asking him to do. This is actually bad coaching. At that level Every person has a style and technique. Hard to change that unless it is his Achilles heel. Liu is coaching him like a newbie. For a player at Xu xins level it should be about tactics, ball placements , strategy etc, not this basic stuff which he probably will fall back to his old style in the crunch under pressure
Do you really believe you know better than Liu Guoliang on how to coach? Yes, top players have their own styles but they are also expected to be adaptable. Without adaptability, they cannot improve, much less make it to the Chinese national team in the first place.
@@dxuhuang 👏👏👏👏👏
lol
1:01
声音太嘈杂，我大概听了下。其实整体就是，许昕在击球后，身体一直都不稳定，虽然击球效果不错，可教练一直对他的身体平衡不满意。
所以刘国梁教练反复示范可以看到他击球的时候，下半身极其稳定，击球后，上身扔保持平衡。
尤其 1:20 这里是最典型的示范。
教练主要教
1.不要晃动身体。要等到了合适的位置，稳定后再击球，不用着急过早击球造成的动作变形。
2.教的是，利用手臂、手腕的力量来击球，不要过度依赖身体其他部位的力量，比如腰部。
3.重心要放低，蹲下身体与球台一个水平面。
0:01 许昕击球后，但身体不稳。教练说：身体不要动，身体平衡。
0:08 许昕做出了一个正确的击球。
0:25 许昕的肩膀有些靠前，导致手臂用不上力。
0:43 虽然许昕击中了球。但教练仍不满意。说「身体已经扑上来了」所以才有了后面一系列的示范。
1:20 教练做出了一个经典示范。身体非常稳。
1:34 许昕不晃动身体了，可并没有下蹲，重心不够低。
2:09 许昕做了一个正确的击球。
2:13 许昕又一次击球上台，但教练说「脚又动了」，左脚的移动造成了身体不稳。
2:18 许昕做出了一个正确的选择，虽然他还是脚移动了。但上身还是稳定的，教练说「这个是对的」。
2:30 击球后，教练说，这是对的，你确定安全了在出手。
2:36 尽管又一次击球上台，但教练还是不满意，说「再放嘛，确定安全了」
几个球，教练都不满意。所以在 2:58 开始，教练做示范。你会发现他上身根本没有晃动，而且脚多余的动作，但许昕每次击球后会有很大的晃动。
3:19 教练说：蹲下，蹲下，蹲下。
3:45 教练说：身体不要「拖」，强调，身体在安全的位置。
4:03 看看教练的嫌弃的脸……许昕的重心又不稳了。
4:09 虽然许昕击球效果不理想，但身体是稳定的，得到了教练的肯定，只要加入手腕力量，会成为一个好球。
4:21 教练开始教许昕，用手腕的力量。