What i liked about this video is that it goes straight to the point, no bullshit, no filler content or speech, just 6 and a half minutes of pure, useful information.
the quality of your work is just amazing! thanks for the awesome content! (your frost guide actually made me stick to mage/play frost for the first time and get my KSM). much love ♥️
Thanks for the great video! I recently started playing wow with a more serious mindset, and i have been playing fire mage because it was the most fun to me and felt so satisfying. But I think I will try out frost mage, since I have never played that spec and it seems to be looking good next patch!
This was the video to convince me to switch specs again. I played frost for the past 10 years and thought I'd do myself a favor by learning a new spec, but always slightly regretted it. Not that I hated fire but it just didn't feel like it fit my mage's personality. Back to Frost it is!
Your video's getting better and better. Thanks for explaining some terms that might be new for beginners. And thanks for the total information about mages as well, it even helped me :D
Wow, just wow. This is the first video i saw from you and im increadibly impressed. This video is really well made and your voice, how should i phrase it... Sounds professional? It's a great video anyway! Keep up the great work!
love the background musik in the first minutes. got that beat. i ll take the infos and give frost a try, you get my abo. see you at the top of the meters. cheers o/
At first I was kinda bummed about the news but honestly they aren't that noticeable. I tried frost and it was too slow, arcane was a bit faster but I still prefer fire. Getting crits and insta casting fireballs and burning everything is fun to me
I've been playing Kyrian Arcane since halfway through the tier because it's incredibly fun as a playstyle. Having to re-craft my legendary is very annoying though
Hey, I main frost mage since mid bfa, can really say i'm not disappointed, although I do feel that blizz has swept the frost mages under a rug for way too long. Our time to shine now boys and girls :)
I just switched frost to prepare for 9.1. I am doing more M+ than raiding right now, the playstyle is so different. whenever I look at the damage meter there is nothing to write home about, but the overall at the end of the dungeon is quite decent.
I only just realised you play with a guildie of mine (Bearbane / Blockbane). We might have crossed paths aswell in some keys lol (I play with fire and frost around 2k rio)
I played Boomie in 9.0 and 9.05 up to +21 keys. I met a Mage main with about 2.800 Rio who told me he will stay fire with his mage friends cause: 1) the 25% dps overall nerf doesnt matter if you‘ve been always 25% over second place in dps 2) Fire mage has still lower cooldown on burst than frost mage even with combust nerf so in high keys he gets way more dps out. Also there is an icy veins analyse that tells fire Mage will be s tier in 9.1 (mythic plus)
Yeah it’s hard to tell right now! All we can do is take educated guesses 🥰 fire still has uncapped aoe, so high end where they pull big it could still see use
What's your thought on fae frost for m+? I think it's the most versatile with more blizzards, orbs and interrupts. Also, in case I need to play fire for some dungeons, I don't lose out too much of my covenant choice.
NF is decent for frost in aoe situations, although you do miss out on the ST from venthyr. It’s a tough call, and in these situations convents are a pain. If you’d like to see the standings of covenants yourself you can see here- cteer458.github.io/mage-sims/?spec=frost&graphs=soulbinds&targets=1
Night fae was good in aoe situations, although you miss out a bit on ST. If you want to see/decide for yourself the sims are here- cteer458.github.io/mage-sims/?spec=frost
Thanks again for this video ! I will stick on frost for now XD also if it will be probably the worst spec again .. what is the best last potency for venthyr frost ? Orb or mirror ? Thanks ! Or maybe I have to go for dauntless duelist and keep only 2 potency on 9.1?
So…… in raid. Are we going frost orb straight off with mirrors after if using freezing winds or would it make sense to use mirrors…. Eat the procs then use frozen orb to prevent wasted procs!? Maybe I should log to your twitch stream later to ask!!! Enjoying the content btw, keep up the good work.
Great video Jordan, if this was the video you were making when you declined boosting me and Gem you are forgiven. Some great info in here, keep up the great work!
Venthyr Arcane is a little less than kyrian however still viable. If you want the sims for covenants you can find them here- cteer458.github.io/mage-sims/?spec=harmony_arcane
Hi, love your videos. Gave me tons of information about my frosty! Just a quick question. How is it you get your icy veins back so fast? I have a 184 ilvl conduit which is 0.98 seconds per crit iirc. And when I use on adds to clear I normally still have around 1 min 30 seconds or so remaining. Thanks
In lower keys mobs die faster which means less resets for you. Tanks also tend to pull smaller packs. You can frost nova the pack when orb is out and those crits will count towards icy propulsion!
@@Okaymage Oke, But then I need to redo my Renown. WIll that still be oke if Im not 40 renown. Or is it not that big of a inpact that I will be a lower renown.
Hello! I'am playing arcane mage, night fae not good for arcane? (i only play m+), or u more recommend venthyr for 9.1? i dont like kyrian playstyle, i have arcane bombardment leggo, if venthyr u say nadja the go to for 9.1? Thank you for your answer :)
I’d highly recommend you check out the covenant mage sims which will answer all of your questions here better than I can- cteer458.github.io/mage-sims/
I got tired of Blizzard's dance of the mages always changing the meta and now I have three different mages ready for any shenanigans nerfs and buffs during the expansion
You can still play fire if you enjoy it! I’m very much a believer in play what you enjoy! You’ll always perform better on a spec you like over one you don’t 🥰
I’m a firm believer in play what you enjoy. Unless you’re pushing world first, or maybe famed slayer, then you’re not in the content where meta is relevant! Play what you enjoy, it’s a game you should be having fun 🥰
honestly, m8. play what you enjoy, you'll probably perform better, late in this season when fire was king, i tried playing fire, and hated it so i switched to frost, and i'm performing better as frost despite the fact that i don't have a leggo and my stats are badly optimized simply because i enjoy frost a lot more.
After getting to try fire out in the raid I can say with certainty play frost. Fire does pretty well in the early bosses of the raid but feels and performs absolutely horrendously in the later half of the raid.
The 33% is a soft cap, as in, you ideally don’t go above it. It’s not a goal or requirement! I would suggest watching my frost guide on my channel as it covers a lot, might be helpful!
What i liked about this video is that it goes straight to the point, no bullshit, no filler content or speech, just 6 and a half minutes of pure, useful information.
This is just incredibly professional and so well made. Bravo! Pluss you have a voice made for this. Thanks for the info!
I watched a few videos like this now but yours is so accurate and well sourced. Number one mage content
the quality of your work is just amazing! thanks for the awesome content! (your frost guide actually made me stick to mage/play frost for the first time and get my KSM). much love ♥️
congrats on ksm! 🥰
Thanks for the information Okay! Gonna post this on my discord.
I’ve watched a lot of WoW educational videos and this is by far the cleanest presentation I’ve ever seen. A+
Excellent video. I wish more content creators really researched like you do. I only trust your channel
Great video and thanks for updating us, keep it up!
Answered all of my questions so clearly thank you!!
Thanks for the great video! I recently started playing wow with a more serious mindset, and i have been playing fire mage because it was the most fun to me and felt so satisfying. But I think I will try out frost mage, since I have never played that spec and it seems to be looking good next patch!
Ive never seen a more clean wow video from when i started the game this patch ; amazing job
This was the video to convince me to switch specs again. I played frost for the past 10 years and thought I'd do myself a favor by learning a new spec, but always slightly regretted it. Not that I hated fire but it just didn't feel like it fit my mage's personality. Back to Frost it is!
Your video's getting better and better. Thanks for explaining some terms that might be new for beginners. And thanks for the total information about mages as well, it even helped me :D
My type of content, instant sub. Thank you for the video!
Wow, just wow. This is the first video i saw from you and im increadibly impressed. This video is really well made and your voice, how should i phrase it... Sounds professional? It's a great video anyway! Keep up the great work!
This is so informative and fun to watch! Thank you :) helped me make my decision to go frost
Not playing at the moment but I always like watching your vids, and come back for the music
Yay, i'm going back to frost :)
Thanks for the great content and sources. Cheers !
Your sound editing in your videos is phenomenal 👍 so many creators fail at this
Frick, looks like i'm grinding Kyrian. Thanks for the clear info.
Hit after hit after hit. Thanks again for the info!
Thank you soooooooo much for this! Your content is always on point and relevant 👍
Just found her for mage content, top notch and easy to follow, subscribed for sure!
I also subbed straight to the point without dragging it out.
Well, I guess I am going straight to leveling my beloved mage up to 60 :) thank you! I hope to be a regular guest on your fantastic channel.
Without any doubts the best frost mage channel.
Just found you - looking forward to more content! Very well done, thank you very much
As a fire mage player who is so confused about what's going on, this video helped quite a bit. Thanks!
Go kyrian arcane. Its amazing
I hope we can see more updates on frosty and amazing frost content keep it up xD
Thanks for the vid! Yeah 9.1 is finallly here, it took so long!
Rly good info here! It’s all in one place and easy to understand thank you okey
FINALLY FROSTIES GET TO BE TOP WOOOO @OKAYMAGE
No, arcane is the top mage spec for 9.1 currently.
I took a break from the game but want to come back in the next patch. This video is very informative and helps me get up to speed thank you!
Excellent content. You clearly do your research, really well done.
Your background music is always so 👌
I love your clear voice and explanation
Great video, thanks :)
arcane technically has funnel too with the resonance talent. Great vid! Never fall for the Fire mage meme!
I also had to change Arcane Harmony from Shoulders to gloves
I'm changing fire to frost, but still want to play fire sometimes! Thanks for advance!
Great vid as always.
U make awesome videos !!!
love the background musik in the first minutes. got that beat. i ll take the infos and give frost a try, you get my abo. see you at the top of the meters. cheers o/
Great vid, thank you.
At first I was kinda bummed about the news but honestly they aren't that noticeable. I tried frost and it was too slow, arcane was a bit faster but I still prefer fire. Getting crits and insta casting fireballs and burning everything is fun to me
I've been playing Kyrian Arcane since halfway through the tier because it's incredibly fun as a playstyle. Having to re-craft my legendary is very annoying though
Hey, I main frost mage since mid bfa, can really say i'm not disappointed, although I do feel that blizz has swept the frost mages under a rug for way too long.
Our time to shine now boys and girls :)
Yes finally us Frosties rise!
Amazing as always! I really appreciate the time you take to craft these clear, concise, and informative videos!
FELLO FROSTIES UNITE !!! loved the content thanks for the info :)
I just switched frost to prepare for 9.1. I am doing more M+ than raiding right now, the playstyle is so different. whenever I look at the damage meter there is nothing to write home about, but the overall at the end of the dungeon is quite decent.
Well I’m convinced…took a few of your vids to convince me but I’m levelling my mage
Best decision 😉
Great video, love it! Pls more. And on top... what a lovely voice! :O
I needed this, I was so torn. Thank you! 🥳
good video, was hoping for a bit more info on pvp.
Spot on Maj !! Lets av sum more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(Guess Who by the way?)
Oi oi gov’nah
@@Okaymage BlackRobe xx
@@skboutdooradventures4561 the one and only! 🤩
Arcane ! Finally
1st ps please make a package for bigwigs with your voice thnx
Run away lettle gehl
Playlist when ? :d
I'm glad you approve haha! I have my NCS songs in this playlist- open.spotify.com/playlist/4X0nEX44Di3rtC8NAQyOyJ?si=cc6710cdb4ab42be
All the footage of using BF procs with FoF still up. Our role model ;)
I am an expert in proc munching 😏
good video!!
Oh my! Thank you! *fangirl moment*
Your voice is wonderful!
Awesome Video as allways. I just have one more question, why is Venthyr Arcae also state with the Harmony legendary ?
On the right the icons is just a weakaura showing what you cast right
it is yeah 🥰
Could you do a 9.1 Frost pvp video?
I don’t pvp myself but I can certainly look into that 🥰
@@Okaymage I was just concerned about how frost bolt damage is doing since it's increased by 85% in pvP
I only just realised you play with a guildie of mine (Bearbane / Blockbane). We might have crossed paths aswell in some keys lol (I play with fire and frost around 2k rio)
Yeah I’ve pushed keys with him since bfa! We have probably crossed paths at some point then 🥰
I played Boomie in 9.0 and 9.05 up to +21 keys. I met a Mage main with about 2.800 Rio who told me he will stay fire with his mage friends cause: 1) the 25% dps overall nerf doesnt matter if you‘ve been always 25% over second place in dps 2) Fire mage has still lower cooldown on burst than frost mage even with combust nerf so in high keys he gets way more dps out.
Also there is an icy veins analyse that tells fire Mage will be s tier in 9.1 (mythic plus)
Yeah it’s hard to tell right now! All we can do is take educated guesses 🥰 fire still has uncapped aoe, so high end where they pull big it could still see use
@@Okaymage i dont know if i want to go frost or fire :(
nice
What's your thought on fae frost for m+? I think it's the most versatile with more blizzards, orbs and interrupts. Also, in case I need to play fire for some dungeons, I don't lose out too much of my covenant choice.
NF is decent for frost in aoe situations, although you do miss out on the ST from venthyr. It’s a tough call, and in these situations convents are a pain. If you’d like to see the standings of covenants yourself you can see here- cteer458.github.io/mage-sims/?spec=frost&graphs=soulbinds&targets=1
Thanks for this video ! Do you think Night Fae Frost Mage is still good in 9.1 ?
Night fae was good in aoe situations, although you miss out a bit on ST. If you want to see/decide for yourself the sims are here- cteer458.github.io/mage-sims/?spec=frost
Thanks again for this video ! I will stick on frost for now XD also if it will be probably the worst spec again .. what is the best last potency for venthyr frost ? Orb or mirror ? Thanks ! Or maybe I have to go for dauntless duelist and keep only 2 potency on 9.1?
i need to change covenant to pew pew
Thanks for the video. Any chance of doing a good one to explain when to use mirrors and with which other cds?!
Please!
@@paulprothero9997 I have a ultimate m+ frost mage video on my channel which has rotation, when to use mirrors etc! If that is what you mean
Basically yes. I’ll rewatch that. May have missed the bit I’m looking for
Thanks. Have watched
So…… in raid. Are we going frost orb straight off with mirrors after if using freezing winds or would it make sense to use mirrors…. Eat the procs then use frozen orb to prevent wasted procs!?
Maybe I should log to your twitch stream later to ask!!!
Enjoying the content btw, keep up the good work.
heck speculation! Make it Real Blizzard! give Frosties some wuv!
talents for m+ content?
Talents stay the same for all content! You can see the full breakdown in my ultimate frost guide- th-cam.com/video/Vv8P_RAMlvw/w-d-xo.html
Great video Jordan, if this was the video you were making when you declined boosting me and Gem you are forgiven. Some great info in here, keep up the great work!
It was!!! 😂
@@Okaymage I can respect that, tibs and reitsar suffered instead 😂
Are you sticking with frost or switching to arcane maybe? I know I won't leave frost spec anymore :D
I will be staying frost yes!
@@Okaymage Niceeee! I'll still be able to learn from your videos on 9.1 :D
do you know if they fix the bug for glacial fragments not working after the second boss in necrotic wake?
As far as I know it has not been fixed yet
Is there someone making a similar video for arcane venthyr? The discord pins are a mess with conflicted information and most of it is for kyrian.
Venthyr Arcane is a little less than kyrian however still viable. If you want the sims for covenants you can find them here- cteer458.github.io/mage-sims/?spec=harmony_arcane
Hi, love your videos. Gave me tons of information about my frosty! Just a quick question. How is it you get your icy veins back so fast? I have a 184 ilvl conduit which is 0.98 seconds per crit iirc. And when I use on adds to clear I normally still have around 1 min 30 seconds or so remaining. Thanks
In lower keys mobs die faster which means less resets for you. Tanks also tend to pull smaller packs. You can frost nova the pack when orb is out and those crits will count towards icy propulsion!
Do you ever use fireblast on frost?
Very rarely. Earlier on in raid while forced to move but other than that no
Oof I just bought the 226 boe gloves for my frost and now have to put a lego in that slot, rip
Oh noo!! Although ultimately everything will be replaced with the new gear so that’s ok at least haha
I main Fire atm, but if I want to switch to Frost I need to switch to Ventyr. Is that wurth to do?
I would recommend you play Venthyr if you want to main frost yes 🥰
@@Okaymage Oke, But then I need to redo my Renown. WIll that still be oke if Im not 40 renown. Or is it not that big of a inpact that I will be a lower renown.
Hey ! Do you think that a kyrian glacial spike full mastery build could see the light in 9.1 ? >.>
unfortunately not :( in its current state, its a dps loss to take glacial spike over taking no talent at all x)
Hello!
I'am playing arcane mage, night fae not good for arcane? (i only play m+), or u more recommend venthyr for 9.1? i dont like kyrian playstyle, i have arcane bombardment leggo, if venthyr u say nadja the go to for 9.1? Thank you for your answer :)
I’d highly recommend you check out the covenant mage sims which will answer all of your questions here better than I can- cteer458.github.io/mage-sims/
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So frost is a new meta or fire still strong?
It's too early to say for sure but it's speculated that frost/arcane will be meta over fire
@@Okaymage, understood, tnx.
Necro for Arcana on boss fights is wayyy better.
Thank for the info :D but i have 1 question does the Interrupt Tracker you linked only work with Elvui cos i get error message?
I have default ui! It should work
Is frost nf good and arcane
Not that great no. You can see the covenant standings here incase you wanted to see for yourself- cteer458.github.io/mage-sims/?spec=frost
Yoo what is that microphone sounds CRISPY AS FUCK.
It’s the shure sm7b 🙊
@@Okaymage Thanks!.
Best Mage spec? Black mage :P
Lets gother soul ash again
how is ur view on leggo slick ice that only goes on Waist, Legs and so takes spot for new gear slot with gems?
Slick ice is crafted on legs! The only change would be moving the freezing winds legendary from the head slot to hands
ah ye thnx legs are not used by Domination Socket my bad
I got tired of Blizzard's dance of the mages always changing the meta and now I have three different mages ready for any shenanigans nerfs and buffs during the expansion
You really was prepared 😂
@@Okaymage yep Illidan you know nothing ahaha
this makes me kinda sad :( fire has always been my favorite mage spec with frost as a second not sure if i want to go through with a reroll for raid
You can still play fire if you enjoy it! I’m very much a believer in play what you enjoy! You’ll always perform better on a spec you like over one you don’t 🥰
Ur husband/boyfriend would fall in love with ur voice daily
the notion that frost might be the mage spec to play is bumming me out, I really wanted to play mage in chains but not if it's going to be frost
I’m a firm believer in play what you enjoy. Unless you’re pushing world first, or maybe famed slayer, then you’re not in the content where meta is relevant! Play what you enjoy, it’s a game you should be having fun 🥰
honestly, m8. play what you enjoy, you'll probably perform better, late in this season when fire was king, i tried playing fire, and hated it so i switched to frost, and i'm performing better as frost despite the fact that i don't have a leggo and my stats are badly optimized simply because i enjoy frost a lot more.
After getting to try fire out in the raid I can say with certainty play frost. Fire does pretty well in the early bosses of the raid but feels and performs absolutely horrendously in the later half of the raid.
If only Harry Kane could speak like you, we all would understand and support UK in Euros 🤣🤣🤣
Oi' lad ! Wat' du ya' mean bruv ? Wa are the tru' en'lish shpeaker ! Ya ar' te one wit' a bloody accent, mate ! 🇬🇧
How much for you to sing me to sleep
what about m+?
My mage do low dmg, 33% crit do a lot of difference ?
The 33% is a soft cap, as in, you ideally don’t go above it. It’s not a goal or requirement! I would suggest watching my frost guide on my channel as it covers a lot, might be helpful!