History's Biggest Unintended Consequences

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  • Dive into history's unintended disasters! From Lenin's rise to power to Prohibition's economic fallout, explore how good intentions paved the road to chaos in this captivating journey through unforeseen consequences.
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  • @cafiend
    @cafiend 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

    The coast of Switzerland is notoriously dangerous.

    • @toweypat
      @toweypat 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      That's why everyone who sails it should carry a Swiss Army Knife.

    • @AboutTimeFFS
      @AboutTimeFFS 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      I'm from the Swiss northern isles where Scapa Flow is located. It's an absolute bloodbath up here

  • @JanRademan
    @JanRademan 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +158

    The Eastland sailed for several years after the additional lifeboats were added in 1912. While they were heavy, what sealed the ship's fate was the owners replacing the old wooden decking with (I kid you not) 2 inches of concrete, amounting to between 15 and 20 tons of additional weight above the waterline in 1914.

    • @GodelFishbreath
      @GodelFishbreath 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      wow

    • @GeorgieB1965
      @GeorgieB1965 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      🤯🤯🤯🤯 What. The....?

    • @GardinerAlan
      @GardinerAlan 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Even if it happened straight after they added extra lifeboats it's a failure of capitalism, not law. They could've done safety tests and then scrapped them in favour for a different design. Or close their business because it was no longer viable. But no let's just add more weight. Who cares if everyone on board could die, we've got profit margins to hit baby!

    • @toweypat
      @toweypat 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Oh my god! That's wild.
      I grew up in a Michigan town of about 6,000 people. Packing 2,000 people into a passenger ship just sounds nuts to me.

    • @robgronotte1
      @robgronotte1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@toweypat The biggest cruise ship going now carries about 10,000 people!

  • @mandiblackwell4668
    @mandiblackwell4668 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Fun fact, in NYC during prohibition, drunk driving was the leading cause of death for several years...

    • @SteveCave
      @SteveCave 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks for sharing! Wild…

    • @OldPirate1718
      @OldPirate1718 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Fun fact...not true, there was an uptick in drunk driving, but homicide was the #1 killed

    • @Jody-kt9ev
      @Jody-kt9ev 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Drunk driving still kills about 10,000 people per year in the US. My opinion is that alcohol is the worst drug as it kills many innocent (non users) people(including children). No other drug, illegal or legal, does this. In Texas, where I live, DUI penalties get harder every year. A woman just recently went to prison after 6 DUI convictions.

  • @qienna6677
    @qienna6677 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    From what I understand, lifeboats weren't intended (at the time) to rescue everyone at once in a scenario like the Titanic. They were to ferry people to a rescue ship and it was assumed there would be time to make multiple trips, before the ship sank.

    • @cigmorfil4101
      @cigmorfil4101 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Precisely, the Titanic carried the correct regulated number of lifeboats. The problem arose because it took ages for help to arrive: the nearest ship having switched off its radio for the night after some rather nasty words from the Titanic's radio operators (the radio operators were independent of the ship's operators and were paid on messages sent).
      It has been suggested that if the Titanic had rammed the iceberg ad opposed to trying to avoid it at the last moment, it is possible that less damage would have been made to the hull with less compartments breached below the water line and it would not have sunk, either not at all, or not so quickly.

    • @fredocarroll
      @fredocarroll 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cigmorfil4101 The _Titanic_ carried the legally-required amount, plus a couple boats worth of extra capacity, though the White Star Line emplaced two of those without giving any thought as to how they might be launched. I wouldn't call it the "correct" amount, though.
      The problem is that the regulations were hopelessly out of date. British lifeboat regulations were governed by the British Board of Trade, which had last revised its standards in 1894 with a rule covering all ships of greater than 10,000 GRT in passenger volume. The largest ship under that measure, the Cunarder _Campania_, was barely a quarter of the size of _Olympic_ and _Titanic_. Quite simply, the rules hadn't kept pace with maritime engineering.

  • @hawkdsl
    @hawkdsl 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +168

    A plant I worked at used ammonia. We had a leak and tecs came in to replace some tanks. I asked a guy how bad would it smell if one of these tanks ruptured. He said you wouldn't have to worry about the smell... if one of these ruptured it would kill everybody within a 45 mile radius. I never looked at ammonia the same way again.

    • @24934637
      @24934637 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      WOW!! I Know that it smells bad, and that in high concentrations it's unpleasant, but I had no idea that it's dangerous at THAT sort of level! Thanks for the education!

    • @Mark-oh6iz
      @Mark-oh6iz 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      I think he was maybe exagerating a little

    • @ivorynk752
      @ivorynk752 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      45 miles? How big are these tanks?

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@ivorynk752 a few hundred tonnes of ammonia under pressure could probably do it... and yes, they do exist within 45 miles of cities like Philadelphia

    • @kinderdm
      @kinderdm 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      While that 45 mile radius was a gross exaggeration, ammonia can be very dangerous. Basically don't be down wind of the release where you can see a cloud. But ammonia is both lighter than air, so will go up above ground level and dissipate, and reacts aggressively with water in the atmosphere to become a less harmful form. In fact, its specifically anhydrous ammonia used in industry which is dangerous, were as household ammonia is aqueous ammonia which smells really bad but wont kill you. Anhydrous ammonia transforms into aqueous ammonia when it contacts water. But if you are that worried about it, know that its the same ammonia that farmers inject into the ground of their fields, where it reacts with the water there, and becomes fertilizer for the crops. Honestly, if I was worried about a release, I would worry less about an industrial plant with numerous and redundant safety systems, and more about the hundreds of farmers having it transported to their fields every spring and fall.

  • @kathyastrom1315
    @kathyastrom1315 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    The Eastland actually capsized on its side, not fully upside down. I found in the box of photos I inherited from my grandmother one of the Eastland in the Chicago River in the month before it was righted and towed away. My great-grandfather must have taken it from what looks like a small excursion boat-he was a barber on the city’s far South Side in 1915.

  • @seanmcateer7982
    @seanmcateer7982 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +110

    4:03 "Scapa Flow in Switzerland"?!?! NO!!!

    • @RalfSteffens
      @RalfSteffens 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Yes, that one caught my attention, too. Poor Simon, turned off his brain obviously.

    • @501Mobius
      @501Mobius 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Lake Geneva here they come.

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@501Mobius How did they get the fleet there? Wait! I know. They first sailed to the coast of Bohemia that Shakespeare created for his _Winter's Tale._

    • @williebauld1007
      @williebauld1007 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I had to rewind it to make sure I wasn’t hearing things 🤷‍♂️

    • @withnail70
      @withnail70 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      You saved me saying the same thing, Sean. Cheers. Amusing thought, getting a Fleet of warships from the North Sea to Switzerland 😅. The liberties which Simon takes with 20th Century history, in the name of brevity, is a bit much. Russia withdrew from the war in 1917, so Germany's plan did work. Lenin's surname was Ulyanov, not 'Lenin', and Russia was a lot more than 'one of Germany's greatest rivals' in WWII, they bloody defeated the Third Reich and walked into Berlin first. That's only the first few minutes of this video. I hope Americans don't use this stuff as their primary source of historical education 🙄. I thought it was meant to be about lifeboats, anyway ! 😮

  • @schubajo
    @schubajo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    Midgeley almost certainly would not have cared if he knew freon caused massive environmental damage. He popularized lead as an additive. He demonstrated how safe it was by breathing leaded exhaust. He then had to take a vacation because he got lead poisoning. He still stood by lead's safety despite that and the fact we have known for a couple thousand years that lead is toxic. He ended up getting a severe case of polio and made a system of pulleys to continue working. That system ended up strangling him to death so we were spared any more of his discoveries.

    • @DavidFMayerPhD
      @DavidFMayerPhD 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Midgley cared about NOTHING other than money.

    • @RevLeigh55
      @RevLeigh55 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@DavidFMayerPhDLike most business men and CEOs.

    • @blackkittycat15
      @blackkittycat15 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sounds like the Flint Mayor.

    • @MSportsEngineering
      @MSportsEngineering 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Cautionary Tales has a great podcast on this ecological terrorist

  • @gbalfour9618
    @gbalfour9618 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    About prohibition; the politicians were drinking when they passed the prohibition law.
    Very much a rule for thee but not for me scenario.

    • @RevLeigh55
      @RevLeigh55 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I believe Harding and Hoover served alcohol at the White House.

    • @gbalfour9618
      @gbalfour9618 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I remember reading something talking about how they use to.

    • @mattiemathis9549
      @mattiemathis9549 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Kinda like the covid rules…😂

  • @crunchtime6244
    @crunchtime6244 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +107

    The problem “with with”

    • @thehorsefromGOTs8
      @thehorsefromGOTs8 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      now comes the part where we throw our heads back and laugh

    • @626games
      @626games 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Who is responsible for this 😂

    • @scottj9765
      @scottj9765 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      these days mistakes are deliberate to prompt comments like these

    • @Loochy808
      @Loochy808 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The problem with "with with"

    • @NormalGuyBrandon
      @NormalGuyBrandon 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think it's so we know it wasn't created by AI.

  • @handle535
    @handle535 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    Well I guess Scotland and Switzerland both start with 'S'.

    • @RGM1393
      @RGM1393 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Thought I heard him say that 🤣😂

    • @russellfitzpatrick503
      @russellfitzpatrick503 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ... and end in 'land' ... so near enough

    • @Wustenfuchs109
      @Wustenfuchs109 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That is how we get problems with historical recollection. Imagine 2000 years from now, some neo-archeologist digs up this video and takes it into consideration as a chronicle of an event... as we today often do with someone living 2000 years ago and writing to us about an event 2100 years ago. And we take it as truth, or we use it as a conflicting source and there is a faction that takes it as an "alternative fact". In reality, the creator made a goof, a slight mistake that we today know about. But what about people in the distant future? Do we think that knowledge once gained cannot be forgotten and/or twisted?
      You might say that in this digital age it can't be, or that no one in the future would take Simon as a relevant source of information but just a TH-camr (what ever that means by those days in the distant future) but... can you be sure? And are we sure that we haven't made the same mistake countless times by looking at things written hundreds or thousands of years ago? How many mistakes did we take as facts simply because we found them repeated in several sources? Aren't we aware how easy it is for a mistake to proliferate in different sources?
      From a simple and non-intentional mistake, a slip of a tongue like the one Simon made, I get very disturbing thoughts - simply because I can see in real time how information can get changed, morphed, obfuscated and twisted in simple weeks, or flat out invented and then spread around. Imagine now what thousands of years can do to a simple mistake in a source...

  • @KKRioApartments
    @KKRioApartments 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    lol @ 4:02 "the German fleet was interred in Scapa Flow in Switzerland". Getting those dreadnoughts up the Swiss Alps must've been quite the feat :D
    FWIW, while Prohibition backfired in many ways, it did not get people to drink more. America's alcohol consumption per person dipped significantly during Prohibition. Even after repeal, alcohol consumption never went back to pre-Prohibition levels. So that was at least one thing Prohibition got right: it broke America's copious drinking habits, and by the time it ended, new drinking habits had taken root that involved significantly less alcohol consumption.

    • @fendelphi
      @fendelphi 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Without being 100% sure on this, I think what is refered to is the overall alcohol consumption went down(in terms of volume of pure alcohol), but not the act of "drinking" itself.
      A lot of the home distilleries could not refine alcohol to the same degree(lower purity, and worse taste) and was then often mixed with various flavours(like orange juice) to make it servicable. It was during prohibition that cocktails became a massive hit, and it really popularized Gin. Cocktail parties also became a thing.
      So rather than drinking as much pure hard liquor, it was "watered" down. It probably meant less alcohol consumption overall, but did not really make people drink "less often".
      A couple of other factors: Children no longer had access to cheap wine or beer and it was no longer a stable in many households. On the other hand, the roaring 20's saw an explosion of "young adults" being more "active", especially young women, who enjoyed the sweet cocktails.
      A lot of cities outside the border of the US also became popular tourist attractions, due to having more readily available alcohol.

    • @cigmorfil4101
      @cigmorfil4101 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What are the records to show the alcohol consumption reduced during prohibition? As noted, which I can quite believe, the Speakeasies didn't exactly keep proper records (why should they? It would only leave a paper trail back to their customers).
      However, with the end of prohibition, it is likely that alcohol consumption reduced with the psychological effects of it no longer being illegal and so it lost its "naughtiness factor" and excitement; people would more likely drink in moderation as they no longer needed to drink as much as possible when they could get it

  • @Grandadflipsfurniture
    @Grandadflipsfurniture 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Thomas Midgeley was also instrumental in reated leaded petrol (gasoline). He was described as a one-man environmental disaster.

  • @MrDkgio
    @MrDkgio 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Thomas Midgely also had the idea of putting lead in fuel to stop engine knocking…

    • @MSportsEngineering
      @MSportsEngineering 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ...and then he went on tour promoting it to ensure it was deployed worldwide.

  • @victoriaeads6126
    @victoriaeads6126 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    The Eastman disaster was far more nuanced than "lifeboats made it tip." The ship had a lousy track record already, it was MASSIVELY overloaded with passengers, and there were other mitigating circumstances. Ask The Mortician did an in depth video with interviews of relatives of victims and survivors, etc. a year or so ago. It is extremely well done and respectful.

    • @GardinerAlan
      @GardinerAlan 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a failure of capitalism, not law. They could've done safety tests and then scrapped them in favour for a different design. Or closed their business because if it was no longer viable with lower passenger numbers. But no let's just add more weight. Who cares if everyone on board could die, we've got profit margins to hit baby!

  • @sdhubbard
    @sdhubbard 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    I like how he didn't even have to mention organized crime for Prohibition.

    • @QBCPerdition
      @QBCPerdition 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yeah, I was waiting for that tidbit, especially after the hope of safer neighborhoods. The gang shootouts in Chcago and the like probably did more harm to certain neighborhoods than a bar or 2 did.

    • @nosonoliento
      @nosonoliento 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Turned street thugs into millionaires that eventually went legit and eventually became billionaires. Sometimes I think they're running half the planet.

    • @connordooley
      @connordooley 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      And then the passing of the National Firearms Act, as a way of going after the gangsters since they couldn’t get them on prohibition charges often.

    • @d.e.b.b5788
      @d.e.b.b5788 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      And as always, they ignore the sequel to prohibition; 'The 1973 war on drugs', which is still going on, accomplishing the very same effects, while street drugs are even more available than when it started. Crime will find a way. Today, you can place an order for your drugs online, and have it delivered in 15 minutes, often by a child who cannot be imprisoned or charged as an adult. Way to go, moral majority.

  • @dawne6419
    @dawne6419 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you for mentioning the Eastland. I had relatives on board that day (not all of whom survived), and so it's of special interest to the family. As someone said, the added lifeboats were the straw that broke the camel's back. The ballast kept shifting, the ship itself was top heavy (but stable while at speed, rather like a bike), it was overloaded with passengers, and the concrete floors of course did not help.
    After the inquest and all, it ended up in the hands of the US Navy and became a training ship. It was decommissioned right after WWII, if memory serves.

  • @alanhindmarch4483
    @alanhindmarch4483 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Scapa Flow in Switzerland, didn’t know it moved, as Switzerland is land locked. Scapa Flow, is a body of Water in the Orkney Islands, Scotland.

    • @willythemailboy2
      @willythemailboy2 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They moved it to make scuttling ships harder next time 😁

  • @skyden24195
    @skyden24195 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    I don't think it's quite fair to suggest that the "good intentioned" lifeboats addition to the "Eastland" caused the disaster. As mentioned, the boat was poorly designed in the first place. Not only did the owners/operators know about this fact and ignore it, they also continually added to the problem by adding more and more weight to the boat in other ways such as gambling parlors and extra passenger spaces in order to get as much money out of the boat as they could, even if these additions would put the passengers and crew at further risk. The lifeboat additions, which of course were meant to save lives, were just the unfortunate and ironic straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. The lifeboats shouldn't be blamed, the profit-greedy owners are to blame. (FYI, there is a great video about the disaster and its contributors on the channel "Fascinating Horror.")

    • @prudencepineapple9448
      @prudencepineapple9448 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I should read the comment section before commenting! Kudos, more eloquently and succinct compared to my mediocrity!

    • @smooshiebear80
      @smooshiebear80 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Fascinating Horror is one of my favorite channels!

    • @ThatWeirdo04
      @ThatWeirdo04 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ask A Mortician also has a great video on the Eastland

    • @skyden24195
      @skyden24195 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ThatWeirdo04 cool, I'll have to check it out. (The more sources on topic, the more that can be learned of the topic.)

  • @tenacious3911
    @tenacious3911 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    "Scapa Flow, in Switzerland"
    Wait, what?

    • @Kainlarsen
      @Kainlarsen 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Keeps must be damaging his brain. :D

  • @stevejohnson3357
    @stevejohnson3357 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Somebody once said that every problem has a simple, elegant and wrong solution. It comes from focusing on one aspect of the problem to the exclusion of all other. And people who are looking at the evils of alcohol are understand the dangers of banning it.

  • @HondoHoss77
    @HondoHoss77 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Some European art school rejecting a *certain* Austrian painter certainly had some unintended consequences…

    • @toweypat
      @toweypat 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And he was a good painter! If only they had admitted him. If only!

    • @smooshiebear80
      @smooshiebear80 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@toweypatReally? Everything I’ve read has said he was pretty mediocre.

    • @toweypat
      @toweypat 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smooshiebear80 You should be able to find his paintings online.

  • @commissarlorax3406
    @commissarlorax3406 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    And yet no one seems to have learned from the Prohibition that a war on drugs does not work.

    • @fendelphi
      @fendelphi 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would say it is two very different things. One had the intention of changing the culture surrounding the consumption of alcohol(similar to changing the culture around "smoking").
      The other has the intention to stop the rampant spread of uncontrolled, and highly addictive, substances.
      A single bad batch of beer is unlikely to massively impact the lives of hundreds of people. They might complain about the taste though. A child tasting a beer is also not life threatening and rarely life-altering.
      A bad batch of uncontrolled drugs can drastically change the lives of hundreds of people. A child getting exposed to drugs can have serious life-altering consequences.
      That said, the way "war on drugs" is doing things, is ineffective.
      There are ways to legalize some drugs that can be very beneficial to decrease abuse. High education-, living- and health standards also reduce the risk of drug abuse.

  • @fredyellowsnow7492
    @fredyellowsnow7492 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "The German Naval Fleet was interned at Scapa Flow in Switzerland..."
    I had to re-play that several times just to make sure.

  • @rath6599
    @rath6599 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    4:02 - surely Scapa Flow is in Scotland? Bit hard to transport a fleet to Switzerland - we still love you though!

  • @justanaverageguy1351
    @justanaverageguy1351 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Regulations at the time of Titanic's sinking required ships it's size to only carry 16 lifeboats. It carried more than the minimum required (20), so legally speaking, the builders did nothing wrong in regards to the number of lifeboats on board. The issue was that the regulations only specified the number of lifeboats required, which didn't necessarily guarantee to fit all passengers. It took the sinking of the Titanic for the regulations to be changed to carry enough lifeboats to fit everyone on board.

    • @kityhawk2000
      @kityhawk2000 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It wouldn't have mattered if there were more lifeboats because they wouldn't have been able to launch any more
      They barely had enough time to launch the ones they did have. The collapsible boats on the officers quarters were launched just before the final plunge and even one of those ended up upside down in the panic. Other problems is often when a ship is sinking it can be very difficult to launch lifeboats from one side of the ship due to it listing and the imbalance caused by taking on water. The only way to overcome this is to have enough lifeboats for everyone on each side of the ship, so essentially double the amount of lifeboat capacity needed

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    0:40 - Chapter 1 - Lenin's rise to power
    3:15 - Chapter 2 - The treaty of versailles
    5:55 - Chapter 3 - CFCS in the atmosphere
    9:40 - Chapter 4 - The eastland disaster
    12:30 - Chapter 5 - Prohibition

    • @shadiafifi54
      @shadiafifi54 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This comment really should have been pinned.

  • @trottergraeme
    @trottergraeme 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    @simon, Scapa Flow is within the Orkney Islands, 50 miles or so off the northern coast of Scotland. Not in a landlocked European nation. Other than that, great video 😂

  • @latenighter1965
    @latenighter1965 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I worked 4 years for a juice packaging plant and the refrigerant was ammonia. We had a leak one night and had to evac the building. Took hours of venting to clear it out to get fixed. Nasty sh*t.

  • @ajm2872
    @ajm2872 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Rare "with with" sighting!

  • @paulmartin4168
    @paulmartin4168 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    4.03.
    Scapa Flow in Switzerland?
    Simon,blink twice if you are under duress......

  • @markclawrie007
    @markclawrie007 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +174

    Scapa flow in Switzerland 😂

    • @jimc.goodfellas226
      @jimc.goodfellas226 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Was just about to point this out as well

    • @MrNegativecreep07
      @MrNegativecreep07 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

      Well if there's one thing Switzerland is famous for it's the abundance of large naval ports.

    • @therealbettyswollocks
      @therealbettyswollocks 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Switzerland that famous naval power.

    • @smalltime0
      @smalltime0 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Britain got cocky after transporting HMS Mimi and HMS Toutou inland to fight the Germans on Lake Tanganyika. They decided they'd intern the German ships on an Alpine lake.

    • @Ghostrider0
      @Ghostrider0 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Orkney is suitably miffed about a chunk of their island having been transported without consent to central Europe - Mr Whistler may (or may not) by charged with theft and defamation at some future time.

  • @johnrichardson7629
    @johnrichardson7629 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The Drug Way has recapitulated the failures of Prohibition

  • @danielmarcus420
    @danielmarcus420 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thanks so much Simon and Side Projects for entertaining me for hours while I did yard work on a Sunday. Much appreciated!!!

  • @richardtardo5170
    @richardtardo5170 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The Eastland was also very, very overloaded with people.

  • @johncunningham6928
    @johncunningham6928 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The German fleet interned in Scapa Flow in (land-locked!!) Switzerland... Oh dear...

  • @rowspt420
    @rowspt420 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    The problem with with

  • @marklivingstone3710
    @marklivingstone3710 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Re excess life boats, RMS Olympic originally (1911) had 14 life boats, 4 collapsible and two skiffs. After the Titanic, the number of lifeboats was increased. By 1917, the Olympic carried 88 lifeboats! (It was a troopship). Makes you wonder how they would have loaded and launched 88 lifeboats particularly after the other sister,(Britannic) sank in under an hour after hitting a mine and the Lusitania sank in 20 minutes after being hit by a torpedo. All three ships in the Olympic class carried more than the legal requirement for number of boats required by the Board of Trade.

  • @yjwrangler7819
    @yjwrangler7819 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Prohibition was great for my city. I'm in Canada, across from Detroit and business was BOOMING lol

  • @13thravenpurple94
    @13thravenpurple94 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video 👍 Thank you 💜

  • @PenguinMaster2371
    @PenguinMaster2371 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Absolutely brilliant! You are an outstanding channel. Talky Orcs and Star Wars, you are just the best

  • @thenextbondvillainklaussch3266
    @thenextbondvillainklaussch3266 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    4:00 Scapa Flow is on the coast of Scotland as far as i know ...
    And Switzerland is a land locked country ...... so no holding Ships there LOL ..... I think a comma, or full stop , was maybe missed on the script 😂

  • @ziggystardust1973
    @ziggystardust1973 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The treaty of Versailles is an intresting beast. It was simultaniously not harsh enough (and enforced enough) so that germany was able to rearm after a few years, and at the same time too harsh and humiliating, that it lead to alot of resentment in germany

  • @DrEhrfurchtgebietend
    @DrEhrfurchtgebietend 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There is a good series called "great moments in unintended consequences"

  • @cleverusername9369
    @cleverusername9369 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Switzerland, aka Scotland

  • @hypercube69
    @hypercube69 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every time I fall asleep with TH-cam playing your videos keep coming up. So I spend my nights listening to Simon Whistler... Damnit. Also great content thank you lol

  • @AOSDMV
    @AOSDMV 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    [00:00:00]1 Introduction to unintended consequences in history.
    [00:00:40]2 Germany’s situation in 1917 during World War I.
    [00:01:01]3 Russia’s withdrawal from WWI and the rise of Lenin.
    [00:02:00]4 Germany’s miscalculation in aiding Lenin’s return.
    [00:03:00]5 Formation of the Soviet Union and its impact.
    [00:03:15]6 Treaty of Versailles and its repercussions.
    [00:04:01]7 German naval fleet’s defiance and the treaty’s effects.
    [00:05:00]8 Economic consequences of the Treaty of Versailles.
    [00:05:55]9 Early refrigeration and the use of dangerous gases.
    [00:07:24]10 Invention of Freon and its unforeseen environmental damage.
    [00:09:40]11 The sinking of the RMS Titanic and lifeboat regulations.
    [00:10:31]12 The Seaman Act’s impact on the SS Eastland disaster.
    [00:12:27]13 Prohibition in America and its unintended outcomes.
    [00:14:10]14 Economic fallout from prohibition and increased reliance on income tax.

  • @ErikBixby
    @ErikBixby 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Government programs almost always have the exact opposite effect of what's stated.

  • @freddylubin
    @freddylubin 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "The March of Folly", as named by another great writer and story teller of history.

  • @marandamurphy
    @marandamurphy 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Simon you breathing crazy in this one.

  • @prudencepineapple9448
    @prudencepineapple9448 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Eastland tragedy wasn't just due to being top-heavy due to the addition of more lifeboats. The ship had an extra deck added to increase passenger loads. The ship was known to 'list/lurch' when boarding passengers and freight since she was launched. There are many layers that form the Eastland tragedy, which is relatively unknown today. Reminds me of the Iroquois Theatre fire of 1903.
    Wiki:
    The Iroquois Theatre fire was a catastrophic building fire in Chicago, Illinois, that broke out on December 30, 1903 during a performance attended by 1,700 people. The fire caused 602 deaths and 250 non-fatal injuries.[1] It ranks as the worst theater fire in the United States, surpassing the carnage of the Brooklyn Theatre fire of 1876, which claimed at least 278 lives.[2]
    For nearly a century, the Iroquois Theatre fire was the deadliest single-building disaster in American history.[3] Only the destruction of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, claimed more lives in a disaster affecting an American building, when 1,466 office employees died in World Trade Center Tower 1 and 626 office workers in Tower 2, with the additional loss of life of over 400 fire fighters and public safety professionals in both buildings.[4]

  • @LongsdorfHeister
    @LongsdorfHeister 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +181

    Thanks for keeping us updated! I feel sympathy
    and empathy for our country. low income people
    are suffering to survive, and I appreciate Deborah.
    You've helped my family with your advice. imagine
    investing $30,000 and receiving $95,460 after 28
    days of trading.

    • @habibbaloch6046
      @habibbaloch6046 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What opportunities are there in the market,
      and how do 1 profit from it?

    • @LongsdorfHeister
      @LongsdorfHeister 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can make a lot of money from the
      market regardless of whether it strengthens
      or crashes. The key is to be well positioned.

    • @NylundFaerber
      @NylundFaerber 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would really like to know how this actually
      works.

    • @LongsdorfHeister
      @LongsdorfHeister 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All you need is a good capital, and the
      service of a professional broker, with those
      your investment will most certainly produce
      high yields.

    • @BeskeDagmar
      @BeskeDagmar 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you have an idea of any good broker I
      can start with?

  • @FitzChivalryFarseer2
    @FitzChivalryFarseer2 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Most sad depressing thing about the prohibition is that they didn't tough it out and keep alcohol banned or at least more regulated as it should be

  • @kandreasworld4374
    @kandreasworld4374 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don't think blaming the lifeboats for the ship sinking is fair. The ship sank because of corporate greed. They knew the boats were already top heavy. They knew reducing the number of passengers to fit the lifeboats already present was the safest option. The captain was made aware of the excess listing during boarding. They chose money over safety and 800 people paid the price.

  • @peteralflat281
    @peteralflat281 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Next time someone claims climate change is a hoax by saying "what happened to the claims that the ozone layer is being destroyed?" You know the answer

  • @string_fellow_hawk
    @string_fellow_hawk 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great timing . Simon all the way home from work.
    Thanks to everyone .

  • @phillipjohnson209
    @phillipjohnson209 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You'll really struggle to sail a fleet of battleships to Switzerland.

  • @sydclark5581
    @sydclark5581 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Boats moored up in Switzerland, you say 🕵‍♂️

  • @russellfitzpatrick503
    @russellfitzpatrick503 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Scapa Flow in ... Switzerland?????? And nice to see Thomas Midgeley finally being given some form of rehabilitation (in that he'd never intended Freon to be used the way it finally was) - still he was the guy that put lead in petrol

  • @cameraman502
    @cameraman502 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Pretty sure alcohol consumption did go down from prohibition.

  • @matsmith5937
    @matsmith5937 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Who remembers that there were people on the Titanic that said it sank due to a explosion. Or which bankers who supportted todays monetary system who survived, while bankers who didn't, didn't?

  • @brucebaxter6923
    @brucebaxter6923 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ammonia although toxic is so repulsive that nobody could willingly stay around it to get a lethal dose.
    Trace amounts will get buildings uninhabitable and self evacuation occurs

  • @spikejohnson4477
    @spikejohnson4477 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Er - 4:05 - The German Navy were interned at Scapa flow in Switzerland??? Pretty sure the landlocked country of Switzerland wasn't hosting a huge great flotilla of warships in one of their lakes! I'm also fairly sure that Scapa Flow is in Scotland, having been there & dived on the wrecks, but hey - I'm sure the Swiss had at least heard of Scapa Flow🤣

  • @capnkwick4286
    @capnkwick4286 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Prohibition - one more instance of the Good Idea Fairy whispering in someone's ear.

  • @ghaznavid
    @ghaznavid 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Whats with the glasses without lenses?

    • @peteconradjr.8605
      @peteconradjr.8605 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They're called blanks.

    • @JohnDrummondPhoto
      @JohnDrummondPhoto 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It prevents reflections from his lights. I presume the teleprompter has text that's large and bright enough that he doesn't need real glasses to read the script.

    • @ajm2872
      @ajm2872 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "With without"

    • @ghaznavid
      @ghaznavid 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@JohnDrummondPhoto I get that, but why bother with glasses in that case?

    • @slappomatthew
      @slappomatthew 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ghaznavidglasses are a vibe

  • @blackkittycat15
    @blackkittycat15 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Prohibition taught me to brew alcohol. My grandpa always made delicious sweet fruit wine that you can't find anything comparable in stores (I have found a few small wineries that are similar). Turns out my great grandpa ran a speakeasy with his homebrew and the recipe has been passed down. It's so tasty I wasn't letting that recipe die with time.

  • @SeraphX2
    @SeraphX2 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You did the word "with" twice on your thumbnail:
    The problem with
    WITH MORE LIFEBOATS

  • @rudyness2338
    @rudyness2338 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    'The problem with WITH more lifeboats' is what you wrote.

  • @BardovBacchus
    @BardovBacchus 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Since we can not predict the future, and thus can never foresee every unintended consequence, we should never do anything. This seems illogical but also the way some people think

  • @robsquared2
    @robsquared2 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    At least Midgely took himself out with one of his inventions.

  • @Mahros1
    @Mahros1 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Watching the German High Seas fleet sail to Switzerland.

    • @steadfastandyx4947
      @steadfastandyx4947 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It would be a sight.

    • @LtRoastAhoe
      @LtRoastAhoe 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Was going to say... Some wunderwaffa right there.

    • @jameswamboldt3147
      @jameswamboldt3147 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's why they are on the high seas

  • @beinquisitive
    @beinquisitive 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Governments are the kings of "unintended" consequences

  • @AndrewJohnson-oy8oj
    @AndrewJohnson-oy8oj 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a side note, consider that after WWI, the most devasting, horrific, and deadly war up to that point in human history, the Allied powers still only limited Germany's army because they could not comprehend the concept of a country NOT having any army at all.

    • @fendelphi
      @fendelphi 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That, or... A country without the means to defend itself at all, would easily collapse either due to internal or external factors, and possibly create more chaos in the region.
      Even when the US occupied Japan after WWII, only forces that allowed for aggressive warfare(expansion) were completely removed, allowing for a limited self-defense force(which was later expanded).
      Basically, the means to defend itself is paramount for a sovereign nation.

  • @mischeviouslingo8065
    @mischeviouslingo8065 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Lead additive to gasoline in the 1920's was also a very poor decision.

    • @SirHeinzbond
      @SirHeinzbond 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      that was also Thomas Midgley, the freon guy.... and the best is he never recognized the consequences...

  • @timothyallen4410
    @timothyallen4410 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The thumbnail made my head hurt. “The problem with with more lifeboats”

  • @PhilBertran
    @PhilBertran 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The extra lifeboats didn't kill anyone, greed killed them.

  • @A13X_H_22
    @A13X_H_22 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    The problem “with with”?

    • @mistertor
      @mistertor 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Paris
      In the
      The spring

    • @Talisguy
      @Talisguy 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They are indeed having a problem with with. With keeps showing up where it's not supposed to.

    • @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88
      @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's not not what we think

    • @jimc.goodfellas226
      @jimc.goodfellas226 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Haha was just about to point that out

    • @HDTech22
      @HDTech22 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not supposed to pick on the handicapped. 😂

  • @bender7565
    @bender7565 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant. I know the SS Eastland disaster well, never read about the new lifeboats till you.

  • @the-chillian
    @the-chillian 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Scapa Flow in... Switzerland?
    Simon. Simon, Simon, Simon, Simon, Simon. Simon. Even if you didn't know that Scapa Flow was in Scotland, specifically the Orkneys, you perhaps should have suspected something was amiss with the idea of a navy being interned in a landlocked country.

  • @GhostRyderFPV
    @GhostRyderFPV 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    With with content like this,
    I get smarter smarter.
    Thank you you Simon.

  • @bahamutbbob
    @bahamutbbob 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey. The footage isn't over bright and washed out. So you finally fixed it!

  • @iamnepu
    @iamnepu 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Problem with *with* lifeboats

  • @benhunter6194
    @benhunter6194 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not the first time I've thought Simon Whistler would make a great propagandist.

  • @dorkomatic
    @dorkomatic 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Scapa Flow in Switzerland!? I nearly spat my coffee out. Imagine trying to get the High Seas fleet all the way to Switzerland... (Still a great and interesting video though Simon. Thanks)

  • @dejomatic
    @dejomatic 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Lifeboat thing is annoying. they are not supposed to carry people from the ship to the shore, they are supposed to carry people from the stricken ship to a rescue ship. they are ferries, not actual boats. Which is why there a so few of them.

  • @MrEnjoivolcom1
    @MrEnjoivolcom1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Happy belated birthday Simon!!!

  • @NatePrawdzik
    @NatePrawdzik 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Veritasium did a fantastic deep dive into Midgely in their video titled, "The Man Who Accidentally Killed The Most People In History."

  • @sifridbassoon
    @sifridbassoon 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've read a lot about the Eastland, but I've never heard anything about too many lifeboats causing the capsizing.

  • @15DEAN1995
    @15DEAN1995 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didnt know midgely was dead when the spray applications for CFCs had been invented. Anytime I've heard his name mentioned he was labelled as the inventer of CFC sprays, and he was blamed for the atmospheric damage. He invented it for one specific application and it was used for other purposes by the people who came after him.

  • @jockpackage1770
    @jockpackage1770 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    smuggling alcohol, or rum running, was quite profitable at the time for Canadians on the border, since we didn't have prohibition at the time. with the winters being coder too, you could be in Michigan and get your booze on a sled. i apparently had family did this back in the day.
    in present day, all that really happens is people that aren't of drinking age in the US buying and drinking Canadian sold alcohol. similar to say northern Ontario where they go to Quebec, for it's younger drinking age.

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah I remember reading about that, and how there were whole businesses just catered to it.
      I guess when the parts froze over huge masses of drunk people would cross. Those were wild and fun times by all accounts it seemed for those who lived around there.

    • @jockpackage1770
      @jockpackage1770 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dianapennepacker6854 this was with my great grandfather who participated in this. my grandfather found a few bodies washed up from the river over the years. ah classic Detroit, you once utterly infamous city.

  • @SebsterGefunden
    @SebsterGefunden 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:09 What's the name of this track again? I just can't get myself to remember...

  • @darkwing3713
    @darkwing3713 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Prohibition was totally hypocritical. You could still legally make your own wine, so the act had a loophole that was very convenient for the politicians who supported it.

  • @Bash70
    @Bash70 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Surprised you didn't mention the British Indian Cobra fiasco that coined the term cobra effect

  • @johnslaney8054
    @johnslaney8054 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you do a video on the Sakya Monastery

  • @reidabreakfield7434
    @reidabreakfield7434 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really? “With with”. Come on is that complaint really necessary.

  • @scottpitner4298
    @scottpitner4298 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you listen for the inhales then you can’t stop hearing them lol 😯

  • @guyfaux3978
    @guyfaux3978 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In those days, if a boat listed far enough you wouldn't be able to launch half the lifeboats anyway. It sure was lucky for the Titanic that she sunk on something like an even keel.

  • @razvanlipan7754
    @razvanlipan7754 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Prohibition also elevated the organized crime to a unprecedented level, as bootlegging was a very lucrative business.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ah yes, the famous naval port if Scapa flow in Switzerland 😂
    Sure, Switzerland may be landlocked. But why let that stop you from having a mighty navy, right? Lmao 🤣

  • @greendragonreprised6885
    @greendragonreprised6885 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Orkney, Simon. Scapa Flow is in Orkney.