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Just got mine in the mail. The signal set up on a UHF 12db antenna. Omg! It’s signal is over 50km 😮
Is that it? 30 miles?
db is a ratio. dBd or dBi?
Love your videos mate. Im just getting into wireless communications a bit deeper and i really enjoy the variety of things you talk about that fall under that umbrella.
Thanks Andy. I found your TH-cam channel while ago as you're talking about things I am also interested! I'm quite new HAM operator (portable radios only) and I have been very interested to follow all of your topics. And I just noticed that you're doing also excellent electronic dance music too! You seem to be on Spotify, so now your music is easier to be listened there 👍
This is brilliant mate, been lookimg for something like this.
Awesome. I’ll be setting up a node near Castle Cary / Yeovil over Xmas as long as the kit arrives in time! :) x
Amazing. Hopefully this is the start of something big.
Great video Andy - i managed to get my 3 units working and setup one as an Internet gateway and have been chatting with people all over the world - Keep up the great vids!
that sound just like a modernized C.B. radio, like we had in the 70's and 80's... so your just talking to random people ..
I'm loving your trance Sir.
Great tech info Andy, love the music !
nice one.. on the bridge your camera filmed a kingfisher flying down the middle of the river ...love your chanell keep up the good work..
This is an awesome prepper tool, thanks for giving us insight.
Awesome prepper tool for what? So people can trick you into meeting so they can then rob you?
Back when cellphones were first introduced, this is what I assumed they did. Was wrong.
An "off-the-grid"grid... 😉
Just found your channel. Thanks to Ringway Manchester (I think it was lol). Good videos. A new subscriber.
I have an outdoor hotspot for helium on a pole above my house in Surrey - I think I'll convert that - 360 dgerees line of sight for miles so hopeful of use. Thanks Andy for all the information here. Great channel!
Helium! Brings back memories
Lol @@scharlesworth93
I don't know much about crypto mining so why would you need an antenna? I thought you did it through your internet connection.
That black connector is a CGB, compression grommet bushing
Be sure to check how small the CGB compresses down to, it’s possible to buy one that doesn’t compress down to the size of the wire you’re running through it
Absolutely love the content Andy. Very cool device. I also love your deep dive on these devices. Btw I bought the IC-705 because of you. 😂
My main is the ft-991a really love that too. One for QRP and one for QRO. 😅
Have an awesome day mate.
73s SM6VIU. 😊
Thanks mate, appreciate that! The 705 is an amazing radio!👍🏼 73!
I have to so get one of these, looks so much fun and nice that it uses RF not internet!!
I remember the Tiger electronics version of this geared towards teenagers and I’m so excited to see it back and also better
Lol I vaguely remember this and it was a cool idea at that time. I think I might have even wanted one myself.
Nice. Heard about these, never tried one. Maybe I will pick one up
I'm down near Enfield, and will be setting up my nodes shortly. Should increase coverage for south Hertfordshire!
Andy could you do a video about the recent OFCOM consultation and the major changes to amateur radio? Recently pass my Full and now looking into building a 1kW amp lol. Awesome stuff Andy as always!
There’s loads of TH-cam videos about it already.
Great content these devices look really good that was some range. Keep up the great work this is interesting stuff.
Cheers David!
Very cool! Imma get one for me and my dad!
we had a local guy who has a plane doing pmr tests around here a couple of years ago. Now that would be fun with lora mesh
bought one !!!! you cost me money every time i watch one of your videos lol
Brilliant Andy👌
I was more impressed with how beautiful your town was. Where in England did you record this video? Would love to visit there some day. I'm about to dive into this hobby so thank you for the great video.
I now have mine up and running, at the moment temporary, until I get a battery. Cheers Andy!
Nice, where are you? Add yourself to the map if you feel inclined 😁👍🏼
@@andykirby hiya Andy I’m roughly 10miles from Liverpool, still learning this neat little system if I appear on the map it’ll be my callsign 2E0SQA. Either way thanks for pointing this little project out 👍🏼
What battery do you use?
I'll keep my carryer Pigeons because everything comes back in cycles 😅
Nice one Andy, great tunes brother.
You use carrier pigeons? The airmail of previous days. We still use messages in bottles where I live. Kinda slow but it has bandwidth potential if you fill the bottle with large-capacity micro SD cards 😅
Welp, just need to wait another half-lifetime for voice activated texting patent to expire then this thing will take off like sliced bread.
love the comments here.🙂
So the pigeons will maintain an aerial mesh network above town providing solid comms as long as they eat and rest on some viable flight schedule.
Very simple and economical and birds are adorable. 🤓
They can do airdrop? 😂 💩
Wow , that's amazing & thank you for sharing , I might make one & see if there's a Meshtastic network , in Brighton ?.
ois bulla that track at the end was sick as i wish i could mix as well as u bra
Have three units connected one to my mavic pro and flew to 350ft. Was able to use that one as the repeater basically and was texting 10 miles out.
How did you mount it?
@@andykirby I just used alien double sided tape and mounted to the top half on battery. Mine were different design than yours had the 18650 battery mount in back. Before that I took a tyt uv8000d attached to a 4ft Paracord used crossband repeat and great results. Was a calm day.
GENIUS!
Gotta love the name. Heltec
For moisture, Silica Gel Packet/Desiccant Bags (usually buy the colour changing ones)
Hi Andy, love your content. What's the bike you're riding here? I'm looking to get a high-power fat tyre ebike in Feb
Interesting device. I will be going after more detailed information about the device. BTW, what is the antenna attached to the top of the vertical support seen at 5:54?
To be fair, what a cool idea 💡😜
I’m waiting for a couple of different LoRa boards to arrive from Aliexpress any day now and can’t wait to join in 😃
😁😁😁
@@andykirby The more you look into this, the more you find out. I just ordered another Lilygo TBeam because the the radio chip on the other ordered one isn't the best, despite being newer. It seems the SX1262 is more powerful, more sensitive and more efficient than "newer" models SX17xx.
I've only recently subscribed to your channel (prior to the Meshtastic stuff) but I think this is worthy of an entire series... there's not a lot of consistent material out there on TH-cam. There's certainly a gap to fill and you may well be the man to fill it...
I know abit about Mesh hete in the US,
and saw a Mesh set up at the October
2023 Nearfest, in Deerfield. NH. Thanks. 😊 73 de W2CH Ray NH
Hi Ray, Don from Manchester. Is this thing worth it?
@@DonaldMerrit Sorry, I am not active
with Mesh, and do not have these devices.
Thanks 😊
I have been enjoying this series of videos but like I said last time i am so out the way it didn’t seem worth it but looking at that map there is a few nodes close by so maybe it is worth a bash in the future..73s
I am from Germany and receive a station 110km away. DB0WTH is the name of the station and is operated by radio amateurs. I live southeast of it at about 680 meters above sea level. So ist very good. But i use betafpv Antennas.
Sounds like good gear for when SHTF
It is like the good old days of packet radio ( M1CCH / G7OCP ) , But I've let my ham licence laps .
I may have to think about setting up a node and see who is in the local area.
The ordered 4 units which arrived today. Ill be looking at setting up a node in Weymouth/Dorchester sometime soon ;)
Nice! Add yourself to the Map!
Can you just leave one of these on and it will help other people?
@@user-jt5vm3mi1wya it’ll be a node as a part of the mesh from what I understand
Not sure exactly what you are talking about, But do enjoy seeing people getting enthusiastic about their hobbies.
I wonder how much you could pull from there 868 MHz antennas on LTE B20 or what remote towers you could connect to. Definitely will look into the Meshtasic thing though, I have basically a 360 degree view and might be able to get some interesting here.
How random. I was watching the shots of the town casually thinking "I wonder if it's anywhere near me". Looking a it though.... Hertford? Where I grew up! :-)
I've been using this for a few years now. I have my own node as well for IoT
Do tell more about your setup, have you documented your journey?
I love my Meshtastic!
FYI: If your SWR is lower than the official spec, you might have some losses in your cable/adapters/etc. Just a thought for further testing and improvements.
Edit: Nevermind you mentioned that 2 minutes into the video. 😆
Thanks! New stuff
those UFL connectors are not meant for repeated disconnects - they are only rated for no more than around 6 connections after which your signal will degrade badly
You're playing on my 868mhz CROSSFIRE BAND Andy....🤔😏😏🇬🇧
Another massive outro tune 🎉 still search for meshtastic users in Bristol, to many hills 😢
I have to ask what electric bike it was that you briefly showed in the video? looks different then the ones I have access to around here.
Great video Andy. Keep your ears pinned back. The yagi is on its way.
Nice! Where are you?!
Fill the external box with a bunch of those dessicant sachets and seal it as much as possible... any "ventilation" holes would just allow the humidity (read moisture) inside and outside to equalise...🤔
Re. the Yagi... is the directionality (is that a word ?😂) not a bad thing for a grid /mesh network ?... I would have thought an omnidirectional vertical whip would be better though you sacrifice ultimate range for lack of directionality...
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Can you do a video on setting up solar powered ping extenders that can receive a msg signal over 100’s of acres?
We would like to use it for cattle ranches and remote mountain cabins.
Andy how do you get the arrow working in the circle mine has just got a ? In it
Will have a rummage and see if i can get one knocked up in time :)
Is this the stuff introduced to africa, what 5-8 years ago, pre-gsm? Those offered mesh/relay as well as dropbox function, picking up message when connection occured.
Andy Meshby
Now that would be a people power decentralised internet
Please can you do a video on the settings in the app?
How do you configure the base and portable modules for range testing?
Was this with Lora set to Long Range/fast or Long Range/slow the latter will give you more range.
Insane performance from such a small and low power device.
Isn't it just!
When you first purchase any meshtastic device you have to download n sync, after you have completed this and got it working is there a need for further updates or downloads?
I'm going to do some testing on the true range of these being near winter hill I've plenty of height. 8.5dbi colinear vertical antenna 460mw erp small solar panel and a chunky lipo. Signal prediction says it will work from Fleetwood to Wigan off 1 of the smaller hills near me. We shall see.
Yeah if you got good takeoff it'll defo work well! It'll be interesting to see who pops up!
It’s like digital CB radio? Amazing
Yes exactly 👍🏼😁
Have you got a link were I could buy one please? As I’m not sure which one I need to use in the uk 🇬🇧
Save all those little silica dessicant packets to use as condensation prevention 👍
Yeah you are not wrong!
@@andykirby Better idea to use cat litter crystals. they are the same thing but you can buy kgs of the stuff for relatively cheap.
Andy, how come 'Move Your Feet (BM Dubs Wiggle Your Toes Mix)' wasnt a general release.
cracking tune
How about using your drone to take a Meshtastic to the Max legal height and attempt a long range contact.?
love dev/null.
put one on a drone as a repeater, possibly use drone to put on top of building or tree etc
hows the range if you dont have a clear los? like say in a dense urban area?
I know this is a bit off topic,but do you still have anything to do with Kirbebike conversion kits? I'm trying to source 1 for a fat bike front hub set up.love the content and thank you in advance.
Yes www.kirbebike.com hit the team up and you can get what you need 👍🏼
@@andykirbythank you greatly sir!
My issue is that I just logged on and looked at the map and I can now see the HOME ADDRESSES of everyone who has one turned on in their houses (and put their addresses in)... I Hate this lol
yea that's not good
Chances are if they have one bit or radio equipment they have a lot more @@livinagoodlife
You can set it up to not give a gps signal out.
It’s a choice to identify.
I find this best on private setting.
I have a genuine fear to my bone that all the fancy things a no more than beacons for our location no anonymous function at all, think a programmer is needed to have a deep look and tell what needs doing for more anonymous function (s)?
th-cam.com/video/EAQI2ZSmxPU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=N8RlZ_HEdqShbpOO
Will the message "bounce off" a nod that isn't connected to your particular network?
It would be cool if you did a ham radio get together
I just found this video and the links are not available. Is this sold somewhere in the US?
will they work with small data packages?
I don't know what I'm doing wrong! I used a pair of t-beams, even using better antennas than the little stumps that came with them and I couldn't even get a signal at a distance of 1km +/- from one hill slope to another with basically line of sight except for maybe some trees. Any ideas?
For Mesages Its Super Easy To Get Sent Further Away, now Voice Is Diferent World You See.
I'm thinking about setting up a repeater one, but with whatever the best antenna you can use with it. Would a repeater be different with antennas? I'd be happy to buy good antenna to make a big repeater to help my area.
They all act as repeaters! That's the colonising about it. You don't even have to configure it as a dedicated repeater (which you can of course) all packets get repeated by other stations with a hop limit of 3 (can also be set to any number)
@@andykirby Thanks for the reply my dude. I knew they're all repeaters technically, but I thought there was a difference between one that would be paired with your phone and carried with you, vs one that you configure once and they leave on your roof.
How large a solar panel required to charhe and run this?
New to all this... Question for anyone in the US... What frequency works best here? Andy said they are using the 860s in UK, but the company that makes these items website has like 4-5 options for frequency, and I'm wondering if that changes here in the states. Thanks.
915 in US.
3:55 Isn't it better to in that case get the correct antenna connector ? There is SMA and RP-SMA
WHEN YOU AND RINGWAY COME TO MANHATTAN , LET ME KNOW.
that canal with the boats looked like an area where an episode of peep show was filmed😂
I wonder if these could be used to transmit mavlink data to a drone, kind of like a telemetry radio. Probably not high enough data rate.
Obviously you would want to employ a compression protocol .. look at the "short signal message" format used by U-boats in WW2.
Hi mate, is there any chance you can make a video how you setup the Bluetooth to work and how you paired it with your phone? I'm finding it a tad challenging to say the least.
th-cam.com/video/mdN1iy4MKOI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dgjvTve_un35Vtfl let me know if that helps.. join our discord... discord.com/invite/vmh9AsGt
Bloody legend! Thank you muchly
Does it work when your in a deep canyon
Hi Andy, what do you use to power these things ? I dont see any battery in the video, or any usb c cables attached to it (for power) . Please some advice.
I'm actually using small digital camera batteries, I've been testing different things before I mention it because there are some caveats, one is that there doesn't seem to be any low voltage cut out on the Heltec board itself so it's possible you can over discharge lipos if you aren't careful. The charger is quite basic as well and doesn't always charge the batteries properly via USB-C. Camera batteries are quite good as they have a built in BMS usually which will stop anything bad happening. That being said I wouldn't recommend leaving any battery connected to a Heltec on permanent charge especially over night.
@@andykirby thanks frontje quick reply. Maybe you can add some link to a website of these batteries? Or mention this in one of you’re future videos?
what e-Bike is that you're riding?
so from a laymans point of view, what practical application would this device have ?
Clandestine comms during an escape/evade scenario.
I might have missed it but what type of radio is being used, LoRa or maybe something sub GHz from Texas Instruments?
Yes it's LoRa
What if you create a portable Yagi set and a Yagi at home?
I watched, but don't get it. You showed a device that pinged others. How & where do you see messages? I'll have to look at links.
How do I change the beacon intervals of my nodes so I can do the same range test?
Edit: found it