Right and it only makes Nicki look like the bitter woman she tried to make someone else out to be. The worse part is Nicki will only look MORE bitter because she cannot publicly CELEBRATE other women winning in hip hop because she's made most of them into her enemies.
@@luxbunny8678regularly? The fuck you talking about?? Nicki literally only have ONE SOLO song #1, and 2 #1 songs with doja and tekashi 69. Yall literally say anything and look stupid
@@bree-rose1885no we don’t. Millions of people that could’ve applied too. Why Nicki made the shoe fit? She took that size 16 and put bother her feet in it 😂😂😂😂
@@bree-rose1885tbh I didn’t. I wouldn’t have known that verse could’ve been possibly about nicki until Nicki responded, I didn’t know what what Megan law even meant.
When ppl say Meg has the same flow, I truly wonder do they listen to just her mainstream songs. Because if you actually listen to songs from Something for thee Hotties, for instance, you’ll see just how versatile she really is.
Right!! Those who are hating and calling Megan "one flow" are only repeating what Nicki said. They're just used to Nicki being an animated rapper. Most rappers stick to their distinct flow. Megan got bars & flows and she slides on her beats while rapping on beat... even thru her flow changes.
And the flow that they are talking about is what blows up the most so obviously she’s going to stick with that formula much more. She’s doing what works for her, but like you said she’s very versatile
Now Zach...we both know Ice Spice does NOT deserve a Grammy for ANYTHING she's put out thus far...she better be glad she was even acknowledged cuz I thought Jay Zs comment about some of yall don't deserve to be in the category was a jab at her along with several other artists
@@yyuri25 Chris Brown dated her for a time, and beat her up during an argument. She was quite heavily attacked by him, and there's pictures of it, since she reported him to the police.
It's not relevant at all, that's the point lol. You're not slow at all, it's just so random for Nicki to say Megan wanted her "Rihanna moment" like that's so gross? @@yyuri25
The fact that people think Ice Spice was going to win Best Rap anything when she’s one of thee worst rappers is insane. Barbie World was the most subpar song in the category. The fact she was nominated was gracious of the Grammy.
@@CarolinaBlue12 Right, when previous BNA winners includes Billie Eilish, Sam Smith, Chance the Rapper, Amy Winehouse, Adele, Carrie Underwood, John Legend, Noah Jones, and Alicia Keys. 😭😭😭 Be serious. Ice doesn’t have any artistry or artist development.
Thank you! This is the point people are missing. That song was not the strongest in the category. Not to mention, votes are casted in rounds well in advance of the Grammys airing. Nothing Nicki or Meg did that week was changing. The Grammys tweet is a different story.
Megan outsmarted Nicki in every way possible and Megan played this rollout for hiss perfectly! Not only does Meg have a Solo #1 Debut but she won the rap beef with Nicki
People calling it a gimmick or whatever but that discounts the fact that megan played this flawlessly!! She played the cards she was dealt with and came out on top
No one really won anything. I feel like it’s far from over. If Nicki had stayed quite y’all would be sayin she was scared to respond and already lost and now yall r saying she lost despite responding and being successful in many ways. People thought that Cardi would come out on top of the rap beef between her and Nicki and Nicki continued to prosper. It’s not the win yall think it is 🤷♂️
And I must say, I am FURIOUS at girls like Cardi because we told her to STHU and stop going back and forth. Nicki is a master at provoking others and thrives on online beefing and public shaming. Meg has revealed Nicki's weakness - being ignored 💅🏾
This is the one☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾NM is always talking about “bait” and “teaching lessons” literally trying to son the new girls and they fall for it most times. Meg didn’t and Nickis face cracked🫠
PERIOD. I haven't opened iTunes to buy a song since 2013 but I SURE DID after I heard they were fuckin with that lady's gravesite. Bought all 6 versions on iTunes AND Amazon music I was so heated
@@chrissysfitnessjourneyRihanna was dragged for what happened. People were making fun of her, sharing the photos, mocking her. Also defending Chris Brown, what moment did Rihanna have?
I'm a Swifty through and through and I loved Midnights album, but SZA DESERVED AOTY! SOS was incredible and was no skips, stayed at number 1 on the charts for what, 10 or 11 weeks straight? I mean...that was a huge snub. I think they just wanted to give it to Taylor so she could have the record for having the most AOTY wins, which is 4. No one else has done that, and it's impressive. HOWEVER, it was nowhere near as good as SOS. SOS was phenomenal and made me a SZA stan!
@@pipitayun.r2763respectfully as a swiftie I disagree I thought my girl deserved her flowers now as for performances TRACI CHAPMAN AND LUKE COMBS ( FAST CAR ) was the ONLY REASON I WATCHED THE GRAMMYS ( the Simpsons was on that night and I NEVER MISS THE SIMPSONS )
1000% agree with you as a swiftie. the second i heard them say her name i could already hear the comments which were completely right tbh. they only gave it to her because of her general success this year, not because of the success of her album. sza absolutely destroyed the charts with her album and deserved it so much more!
Meg did a clean-sweep on this sh*t! Played it perfectly, she’s in her prime rn and I’m so confident that she’s gonna get to the next level in her career this year
@@chandlerbbbbWait, Nicki has only debuted at #1 once on Billboard by herself. It’s only been 3 rap women to do it. Lauryn, Nicki, and Meg. Give credit where it’s due.
When are the girls going to learn that Megan is protected by her ancestors? Whenever you have a parent, who loved you in life…especially your mother, who has transitioned, you have protection.
I say this all the time!!! Meg gets A LOT of hate, especially from ppl who look just like her. BUT something/someone is protecting her! I can't describe it... Most people who took so many extreme losses like she did, would've caved. And I know it's times when she wanted too, but GOD! I genuinely wish her all the best
Her mom AND grandmother transitioned in a relatively short time span of each other. Megan is GOOD as far as spiritual protection, but ppl forget how real energy is. It never dies, merely transfers. As far as I’m concerned, that woman is as protected as Harry Potter was after his mom put that protective spell on him before she died fighting Voldemort, if that makes sense. Nicki is a wicked person with an evil spirit, so nothing she or anyone opposing Megan does will EVER truly stick and take hold. And Megan has played this whole thing so genius, I can also tell she’s taken notes from Beyoncé with how she’s handling social media and engaging with nonsense. Truly a chess game if I’ve ever seen one in the landscape of rap beefs.
Nicki promoted HISS as a diss record towards her, and did that make a lot MORE people run to listen? Yes, bc they wanted to hear, but also, HISS is a BANGER! And definitely put more eyes on Megan.
True BUT its also because the general public just realy liked the songt. If it was all for drama and people just wanted to hear what she said than it wouldnt have been 1 on spotify and apple for almost the whole week. They would have just listened to it once like most people did with big foot that song only got goos streams the first day
@@weinhereeeee9271if people liked it so much it wouldn't be predicted to fall down 14 spots on bilboard it's clear most ppl were streaming it to spite nicki
I think she would have gotten the Grammy if she hadn’t went on that rant. Public opinion means a lot too. That was quite embarrassing. Do you think they were going to highlight someone like that. They probably wish they hadn’t gave Killer Bill or whoever he was one 😂 after he got handcuffed.
@@sjd283not to mention that she indirectly disrespected pimp c and bun b trying to get at meg. That didn't sit right with a lot of industry ppl considering that a southern rapper put her on! Then calling out rock nation... She did herself no favors! She deserves that award... But shes not going to get it... Ever! Thats sad
I don't think so either and the Grammy award has the award info engraved on it. I just don't see them quickly running to make another Grammy award. I think they already had him as the winner before the beef escalated.
Megan played chest whilst Nikki played checkers. When a person is slightly slience, not saying nothing. That person is planning to move in silence. Nikki was poking at this woman and took her being quiet as weakness when it's really giving planning a time to strike. Smart
Where is this whole idea that Megan never changes her flow coming from? Didn’t Hiss have atleast 3 flows in itself? Is it her cadence or her flow that’s the same? This is a genuine question because maybe I don’t know what flow means😂 Also, at the end of the day…Nicki isn’t likeable🤷🏾♀️I’m sorry to say it. She’s the queen of rap-100% I don’t think we’ve had anyone who can touch her pen-but these other girls are MUCH more marketable. What’s crazy, is that Nicki used to play the game SO well. I was watching a video of Nicki performing Did it on Em and she used to have such presence and be SO confident. Maybe not always “relatable” but you felt the greatness…. Can we pinpoint the moment when it started going downhill? Is it really when Cardi entered the picture??? Nicki is one of the artists who I have genuine respect for their music, but absolutely can’t stand as a person. She made it in my top 5 wrap, but I don’t follow any of her socials or keep up with her as a person🤷🏾♀️
I'm starting to think people don't know what flow is. She definitely has multiple flows...also I don't hear that criticism with male rappers who actually have 1 flow
I think it’s her accent and they go on about her flow being the same. She always does flow switches and they can’t hear past her accent it’s kinda annoying
Megan Thee Stallion in the Marvel cinematic universe. She’s in the renaissance world tour movie she’s created a brand for herself that no one will ever forget.
Ice spice was collateral unfortunately. 🤷🏾♀️ and Megan is likable. Ppl like Meg and how she responded boosted her passing Nicki. If Nicki was likable things would be different not to mention who she’s married to. No one wants association to that.
@@shantellrichardson4655 its not about music before this ALOT of my friends do not like Nicki they do not like her personality they think its negative and nasty so they refuse to even try to listen to any music of hers or anything she is on because of persona or how she is online and they do not like her fan base they think the same of them they call them toxic and actually agree with some of the comments i have seen on youtube they believe her fans help keep her toxic me i have learned you either have to separate the artist from the music and tune out what they do and say with their personal life and sm otherwise nobody will like any artist at this rate i do think its strange that only in our genre for women that we have beef this bad and can not get along and it can sabotage your career if you work with the wrong person the men can beef but a bag is a bag to them nowadys so they will fake it to get the bag if they have to and the public wont know and think they squashed the beef but bts its war lol but the instant you a black female rapper the interviewer will ask you cardi or nicki the divide is strong and kept up with men and fans when the bag would be so much bigger for a lot of these artist but hey drama and pride is a hellva a drug
@@shantellrichardson4655listen I love nicki as much as the next person, but her response to Megan was honestly terrible, the bars were mediocre ( most of them were just what she tweeted from the previous night), the beat was tired and worn out sounding, and then not to mention the fact that she kept talking about Megan's dead mother... I'm sorry but that's just not something you do, the woman is deceased and not there to defend herself or her daughter, and I guess she wasn't directly coming at her mom but she kept bringing her mom into it, that's bully energy right there.... And Don't even come at me with the fact that she brought up Nicki's husband..because Nicki's husband is a terrible person, I don't see how somebody who apparently has so much respect for herself could be married to somebody who has literally been convicted twice, once for murdering somebody and the other time for raping someone, it is honestly pathetic that she's trying to defend him😂🤡
@Jsv_102104 One of the reasons Nicki married her husband is because he is a murderer! She literally brags about "marrying the shooter" in every other song she made since she got with him! She loves the fact that he's killed someone and it speaks volumes of her character. She doesn't care that he's a convicted rapist, she constantly makes excuses for what he did by saying he was 16 when it happen like that makes it okay 🤯🤦🏾♀️.
A LIST of Nicki's tactics: A five day public meltdown Creating five diss tracks over time (showing how pressed she was) Taking the beef to every major platform Endorsing doxxing through likes Calling Megan's ex friends and bragging about it Painting Megan as a someone who wanted to end the life of Nicki's baby Criticising Megan's flow Criticising Megan's achievements Criticising Megan's nose Criticising Megan's body Implying she was a liar and that Tory was innocent Mocking her injuries (only contradicting herself) Fuelling the narrative that darker skinned women were creatures to be hunted Releasing an entire diss track around the concept Bragging about it going number one on Itunes Being disrespectful to Megan's dead mother. The FACT Megan said NOTHING but signed a deal and debuted at number one on BILLBOARD has exposed Nicki for what she has become; a parody of her former self 🗣🗣🗣🗣
Something her brainless stans will never point out or talk about. "It's just jokes1!1!1" "It's just trolling!1!1!1" Wonder if this was her start to the alt right grift.
What I don’t like about Nicki is that she gave off pickme energy. This is not women empowerment. You’re telling another blk woman that no man will stand behind her is bogus af. Nicki should know better especially after that conversation she had with Kevin Samuels. Nicki made it seem like Megan can’t get a man and that should not be a woman’s main attention because we are the prize. The bottom line is Nicki has a issue with any female rapper that can go head up with her. Ice Spice and Sexy Red are trash rappers nothing about them screams real raw hip hop. They can’t even rap on beat for ish so Nicki doesn’t feel threatened by them. Not to mention Nicki’s fans have forgotten that she was told to her face that she was banned from the Grammy’s. Nicki could have won along time ago but she messed that up by going against their wishes.
Nicki Not getting a Grammy after that 2012 performance she got so much flack from the Grammys themselves for the demonic representation that I'm not surprised for them awarding her
As a member of the GP (general public) who really didnt listen to much from either of them. Nicki’s unhinged reaction was a complete turn off from her as a person. Gave Megan a whole follow on IG and started checking out her other songs and that’s probably the case with a whole lot of people. Megan definitely won this round. Not sure if Nicki can really comeback from this disaster she’ll need a good PR agent but we’ll see.
I like both ladies (bigger overall fan of Nicki) but I definitely went back to listen to hiss and downloaded it once Nicki went off because it made me want to really dissect the song. Same thing she did when she ranted about Travis Scott years ago.. I ended up listening to the album and now it’s one of my favorites when I would have never gave it a listen without her rant.
yall people are slow. she never talked ABOUT her mother. she said she was LYING ON her dead mother. that’s it. y’all can’t act like meg is a goodie. she’s a pathological liar and people have proven that multiple times.
singing "lying on your dead mama" is still making fun of someone's deceased mother. you can't honestly sit here and say thats respectful. i said what i said. if you dont get that you're the slow one. @@katherinethames5289
Can we be all the way real? Nicki disrespected the owner of the grammy's. What did she think was going to happen after that? She overestimated her star power at the time she pulled that performance stunt.
@@brianacooper9341 I’m not sure either. I think they had asked her last minute when they heard the news of Whitney’s passing, but I think because it was Nicki’s first Grammy performance she basically said “fuck that I’m going to perform anyway”. Because it was last minute I don’t think they had anything else planned, so they were just going to leave the 3-5 minute time slot empty or on commercial break without her performance .
Let’s add to that that Nicki helped WILLINGLY 😂 she could’ve very well stayed quiet and dropped her response track, but instead she went on a online rampage about it, leading people to go listen to Hiss and see what it is that she was so upset about. The problem with that is that Hiss is FIRE so Nicki actually did herself a disservice 🤣
The fall of Nicki is like the fall of a tyrant, a lot of people are delighted that her mean character is getting exposed. She's nasty and she might not be able recover from this one😩.
Even if Meg is able to do it without the beef, the fans won’t let her have it. Even now with it being clear as day how hard and strategic she played this beef, they’re still being delusional and biased. They hate to see anyone but Nicki receive their flowers or talent be truly appreciated 🤷🏻♀️
EXACTLY. They move the goalposts. They said Remy only had bars, but it didn't count because she didn't sell. And now? They're making more excuses because Meg had bars AND it DID sell. 🤣
Truthfully, before Hiss, we already knew about Nicki's husband and brother. There were folks already done with Nicki, myself included, because of that. I agree that some people definitely hopped on the wagon, but i think a majority of people were just so happy that she finally got called out on it. Between Nicki's pedophiles and her alleged cocaine use, i fully believe Megan wanted to drag Ms. Minaj through the mud so that Nicki can stop acting like an Internet bully, wake up, pick herself up, and cut out the toxicities feeding into her art. Bigfoot was not the serve so many people say it was, if anything, it should be seen as a cry for help. Hiss did not need Nicki Minaj, Nicki Minaj needed Hiss.
The gag is the way the people blatantly ignore the fact meg had a drinking problem because she was depressed. Like people really will harrass someone and then when they start spiralling, wanna act like it's the person's fault.
Megan had the kpop fans, scarlet witch fans, and anime fans rooting for her. Kpop stans made posts and threads treating her like an idol and streamed her music.
Everything you said was tea.... Truth and justice.... Megan is literally doing what Nicki did back then when she would make her songs and let the craft speak for itself. Nicki rants did help push the record... Not to take away the heart and soul of hiss. I LOVE HISS. This situation reminds me of what happened to Nicki and Kim. When Kim would react to Nicki's songs. It pushed Nicki more just like Nicki's actions help pushed the record. Congratulations to Meg. She did her thinggggg. I wish her more blessings in the future.
Life is political, I grew up in the top of the food chain. When you go and scream about the mother it makes everyone and everything step away because if they don’t they are seen as endorsing the behavior. I grew up in the political world so I saw this coming a mile away. No one is going to mess with Niki for a while. I think it will take a huge amount of effort for her to come back and be liked half as much.
Meg went on live yesterday and said that she condensed the song tremendously so now I wanna hear the full version because if this one riled everyone up like this I can only imagine what the full one would do 🌚
Yep. Zach exactly. I am a whole hottie but without all the smoke Nicki gave that record, and without all the nastiness and the stuff about the deceased mother, even I would not have streamed the song as much as I did and I certainly wouldn't have opened up my iTunes AND AMAZON MUSIC to buy multiple copies. Nicki fell for the trap. I think it was strategic and planned in advance. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE HISS 🐍. The video is sickening. The bars are fire. But this is a perfect example of paying your enemies too much attention and that energy being used against you. She also got thar long coveted Grammy snatched out of her hands as a result. I agree that was no accident. She was set to win that thing but they changed it because of how she behaved. Oh well. Taste of her own medicine. A life lesson to everyone about the cost of being so hell bent on destroying your enemies that you destroy yourself while they continue to thrive. Sad story. HEY ALEXA PLAY HISS!
The Grammy page win was an edit, it’s easily manipulated in the text editor function in web browsers, that wasn’t intentional and Grammys have all the winners saved as drafts, it was mistakes, not intentional
The Grammys knew exactly what they were doing with Nicki and if anyone say otherwise they lying. Nick torpedo her win this year because of “lied on yo dead mama” BS
The W that Megan has can only be given by arch angels and a praying mother whose fighting spirit lives on to protect her daughter. The deliberate Grammy snub was the icing on the cake and Hiss debuting at number 1 because of hotties AND stans from all over was the Cherry on top. Muah 💋 x
I’m not even a Nicki fan I personally think she has been wronged by the industry and some rap girls but I also feel she is no victim and contributes to her negative perception but the Grammys 100% did that on purpose in hopes of getting a response from her. I refuse to believe that a mistake that huge could happen and then be immediately taken down.
I think your commentary is very fair here. I'm a casual streamer and listener of both ladies, but I'm a diehard Meg fan now. Imo Nicki is her own worst enemy. She's always seemed very mean spirited to me. After she had Papa and I would see clips of her being sweet with him, I was like "ok maybe she ain't that bad" but idk man, she just can't stay outta mess and it's tiring.
I love how Zach always speaks on things with love and not malice. He could honestly be such a good advisor to some of these celebs. In my possibly unpopular opinion: *Nicki shouldn't respond at all to Meg or any other female rapper* It's time to pay them dust, and maybe only make subtle jabs in the music that have to be decoded to even be noticed. Nicki's the mf Queen of Rap. Focus on your tour, focus on your family, your health, your businesses, new music etc... and move in silence. I know she loves connecting with the Barbz, but social media breaks are good for everyone. The industry and internet love to see Nicki fall. Don't give them any more ammo.
I guarantee she not gonna do any of that. She's too insecure, childish and petty to start moving like that. And barbz, especially twitter barbz make things worst for her. Oh well, too bad.
I think it’s way too late. As a former Nicki fan, I stepped back from stanning her years ago because I saw something like this coming. The more she continues to act like this, the faster she tarnishes her legacy. For me she went from an extremely talented female rapper to a bitter woman who has talent, but hates sharing success with her peers so much that said peers just decide one day that she needs to go.
@@thehyenamakeupslayer3819 Although I can’t speak on that, I can say a lot of things she was doing made me cringe. I had a feeling something was up when Remy Ma happened. Then she mentioned Jehlani in Shether and I looked that up. I was like, “Oh, hell nah!” And then TROLLZ came out and I saw who she chose to surround herself with. Never looked back. Who the hell supports this shit willingly?
That’s exactly what I said I think Nicki actually did win but because of her behavior and the fact that she already burned so many bridges in the music industry and pissed off some big names bosses they said “Hmm? Dead mother…yeah never-mind” Also with Taylor I have loved her since RED back in 2014 but I have to say compared to SOS and other nominees in the category Midnights just did not compare and I have a few favorites on it but definitely not a winner.
I appreciate hearing your perspective, Zach. It's so refreshing. You 1000% right about Megan using beef to get her sales up. I remember Kendrick did it when he said he was "the King of New York" on Big Sean Control. Which in turned forced Big Sean to take a back seat to his own damn song. I'm here for the hip-hop music and the beef that comes with it. I can't wait for all this drama to end so that people who suddenly think they're hip-hop experts can move on to something else. If you thought Bigfoot was evil, you haven't heard "No Vaseline" by Ice Cube.
I agree! I'm definitely a Nicki fan, BUT Megan came with THEE FLOW on this song! The visuals were lit and like you said, she gave Nicki a taste of her own medicine. Definitely think Megan has been listening to Beyonce and Jay's mentoring advice. Hopefully Nicki will learn to not let her emotions run the show and be more "strategic" and Megan will continue to build from this record and grow as an artist! ❤
What’s funny is that Hiss dropped clear out the top 10 one week after it was released, proving that had Nicki paid it dust, Megan wouldn’t have even seen top 20. 😌
@@im2loopd4uClown is being the self-proclaimed “Queen” but ranting online for 72hrs 😂 Clown is being a bitter veteran who’s legacy has been reduced to a stan account.
Imo if I thought the Grammys were gonna play in Nicki face and give her the Grammy with Ice Spice and not alone. Then the haters would always troll her about not having a Grammy alone. 🤔
Thanks for keeping it real. As much as I am a fan of Nicki she can be a menace. But babyyyyyyy the Grammys are tired for that! She deserves her Grammy and they played in her face.
Sad to see, but unfortunately she has herself to blame for that. No one asked her to do all that last weekend and she should have thought about the Grammys coming up! She lost focus and lost something that she was owed. Sad!
Wait, because the way you said this about Meghan "her talent will always prevail - through any controversy... the pen is alway penning" and it can be applied exactly to Taylor Swift and her career as well. I'm not sure if you realize that... lol There's a REASON Taylor has been relevant and at the top of the game for SO MANY YEARS. People can say whatever they want, but HER PEN IS ALWAYS PENNING and always at a higher level than others. I'm sorry but it just is what it is. She is an ARTIST, a WRITER, a STORYTELLER through and through. There's just simply no way to go around that fact. And that's why people can kick and scream and whine and complain, but she will not disappear, because regardless of what opinions people have, HER ART AND LYRICS speak for themselves, it's really as simple as that. If her lyrics were not up to snuff, she would have faded to the background sooooo many years ago, but the gag is... THEY ARE UP TO SNUFF lol We can complain all we want, but at the end of the day, the truth is in the pudding (HER LYRICS CAN CARRY HER LEGACY).
I don't get how Nicki could lose a Grammy for speaking on someone's deceased parent when most of the rappers who won said way more crazier shit. Especially Killer Mike who gotten arrested after winning his awards.
Grammy noms are voted by your peers that are on the Recording Academy, that also includes fellow artists. She's very unlikable, so ofc her peers aren't going to vote for her. People barely get along with her. Zach himself said people behind the scenes do NOT like that woman in an old video
If Nicki never responded HISS would've still been #1 imo. If Nicki came out with a diss song that ate Megan up, HISS wouldn't have been #1. Because Nicki ranted nonstop and came out with that wack ass diss track, HISS is #1. Proud of my baby Meg👏😜
The main question is will the “support” last for Megan? After listening to Hiss to spite Nicki, will that translate to other tracks? Will Megan gain respect from her rap peers?
Right now everything is very speculative. Which is good! Curiosity is good. After Hiss, people who either didn't know about her or dismissed her have become stans, fans, casual and curious or _aware_ of her. Now it's up to her to make something of that energy buff. Her next album will have A spotlight. People will love it, hate or whatever but they will talk about it and they will always reference Hiss when doing so. As of now, we'll probably see increased visibility of her previous works as people start learning more about her. Will her new and old fans rival the barbz in size and buying power? Probably not, but that's okay! Barbz is a 17 yo fandom. What Megan has to help counter that is marketability and good GP rating. She's _visible_ with endorsements, cameos, performances and sponsorships (Nike, Planet Fitness, Disney's She Hulk, Mean Girls, etc.). Her Summer Tour and album will help solidify her power. People will show up and corporations/businesses will perk up. Some examples: Hennessy @ Megan just a couple days ago after her IG live, also K-pop fans love her, she did a collab with BTS a couple years ago, anime fans love her because she is an anime nerd and I forget but there is a Japanese manga artist who created a character inspired by her. The crossover possibility is insane! If she keeps that up, she'll be playing smarter and getting bags from several places. Maybe she won't have the highest, best, first all the time, but she has that ✨Independent Artist✨ tag as well as 3 Grammys. I'm sure a lot of sponsors are 👀 her rn. As far as her hip hop peers, Megan sums up her feelings on the opening line of Hiss. She does not care what they have to say about her. Ironically the yin to Nicki's yang. Nicki don't gaf about GP but she has a prominent place of respect on the hip hop radio shows and pods. And Megan is like f that and them, y'all hate me, back at you - to a lot of those hip hop corners. In the long run (career wise), Megan chose the better portion. Those hip hop peers can be elitists and chasing their favor will turn you into Drake (talented but jaded and done with the disrespect). She's better off solidifying her personal legacy and pivoting into other avenues like other singers/rappers.
First of all Beyoncé Wasn't even nominated and taylor swift album was really so I do not understand What's the matter with taylor swift winning album year ??!! We live in a world where Celine Dion has 5 grammys Mariah Carey has 6 grammys Whitney Houston has 6 grammys And Beyonce has 32 grammys YET Jayz is the one complaining she never won ONE specific award
I love love love Nicki but she definitely took the bait. How you keep poking at the girls and then when they finally respond (sorta)…… you’re not ready. Nicki been at that girl for years! Why was the diss track not ready to be released. Then she tweeted everything we heard like ….damn she ain’t got no one around her to say…..Girl just drop and shut up
Admitting that Nicki’s outburst helped further promote the success of “Hiss”, doesn’t diminish the record or Megan. It’s just a plain observation of the facts.
I honestly don't get the Taylor Swift hate. SHE'S THE BEST, trust I want Beyonce to get album of the year too. But when you got white and brown people paying $1k+ for nosebleed seats and a song from three years ago charting top 10 on Spotify STILL. It's NS!!
@@Mars_cubedliar I was watching all of it happen in real time on twitter She was liking tweets encouraging people to go vandalize Megans mom grave She's an evil woman
People dont talk about how the barbs being such a hateful and antagonistic group helped too. It made ppl not wanna support nicki and then she encourages them by liking their tweets and hyping up the drama. Insighting rage amongst her fans. It makes ppl want to turn on her.
Zach.. imma need you to be serious. Nicki saying what she said in her song has 0 to do with her not winning. This is an AWARD show. What artists choose to do outside of the show is none of their business. The Grammys has been playing in her face since the beginning of her career. This is the same organization who gave Kanye a Grammy even after he PISSED on it. Durk just won his first Grammy and he literally is a gang banger, murderer, etc. Jay & Bey have literally dissed the Grammys. YET? They’ve won several awards since then. So which is it?! Who are they to “teach” her a lesson with that stunt ? All that did was prove to us that everything Nicki said about the Grammys were indeed true. If we’re going by that logic, then why does it only apply to her? Makes absolutely 0 sense. That’s y’all’s problem .. thinking that artists should be “mindful” about what they do all for a trophy that doesn’t dictate shxt. You said the same thing when Nicki was snubbed for Super Freaky Girl nominations .. saying she should’ve kept her mouth shut. So I can’t speak up when an organization is doing everything in their power to work against me? I should shutup all for a tiny gold trophy? Even though I amass major success without it? Yeah, ok.
The true gag of it all is, Nicki doesn’t kiss 🍑 & they know it. She doesn’t act like she needs them. She pays them dust until they play in her face. She doesn’t diss them & act like she’s above them like your fav does. Why constantly show your disproval of them yet make it your business to attend their shows? You either care or you don’t. Instead of waiting on them to get it “right”, we could be creating our OWN prestigious award. Make them want to come sit with US. Yet, they’re still waiting around for a “yes” from the white man. And the fact of the matter is, Nicki isn’t waiting around for them.. never will and they hate her for it. She does wtf she wants to do and isn’t afraid to do so. Why? Because she puts herself first.. telling herself “YES” before any white man can tell her “NO”. 💋
Nicki took a way different approach than what she normally does with her rap beefs. She responded almost immediately and allowed that girl to get more traction on her song. Then again I feel like Nicki is proving a point. In Big Foot she said she knows this is getting her the most attention that she’s ever had. None of Megan’s songs lately have done anything, but this one does. Haha we will see what the next single does/ or even her album. 😅
yes it’s a diff approach cuz she having a breakdown 😂 she was bothered and yall know it, the over explaining won’t help, megs been that girl and beyoncé and jay know it
I think Nicki just got emotional and realized she had to stand on business and that’s why she dropped the song. Megan never responded so ehhh idk I don’t consider it a rap need until she does. I think Nicki will drop the other song she said she had. But- I hate she took the troll approach to this. She should’ve did what she always does, keep it in music!!!
Megan took a page out of Nicki book and used it against her!! This is what nicki would’ve done 10 years ago!
Except she could never go #1 lmao
Megan is a fake person. I don't feel trust in her
@@MrSoulshock44 what? She goes #1 regularly… & if you were talking about Meg she is #1 too.
Right and it only makes Nicki look like the bitter woman she tried to make someone else out to be. The worse part is Nicki will only look MORE bitter because she cannot publicly CELEBRATE other women winning in hip hop because she's made most of them into her enemies.
@@luxbunny8678regularly? The fuck you talking about?? Nicki literally only have ONE SOLO song #1, and 2 #1 songs with doja and tekashi 69. Yall literally say anything and look stupid
the way "megan's law" can apply to a plethora of industry folks, but nicki said "whatchu say about my family?" 😂😂😂
THAT. PART. 💯
lets be so fr though we know she DIRECTED IT at nicki.
@@bree-rose1885no we don’t. Millions of people that could’ve applied too. Why Nicki made the shoe fit? She took that size 16 and put bother her feet in it 😂😂😂😂
@@bree-rose1885not gon hold you my mind went straight to Diddy. I only remembered who Nicki married after the fact
@@bree-rose1885tbh I didn’t. I wouldn’t have known that verse could’ve been possibly about nicki until Nicki responded, I didn’t know what what Megan law even meant.
When ppl say Meg has the same flow, I truly wonder do they listen to just her mainstream songs. Because if you actually listen to songs from Something for thee Hotties, for instance, you’ll see just how versatile she really is.
That and a lot of them don't know the difference between "flow" and "voice"
Right!! Those who are hating and calling Megan "one flow" are only repeating what Nicki said. They're just used to Nicki being an animated rapper. Most rappers stick to their distinct flow. Megan got bars & flows and she slides on her beats while rapping on beat... even thru her flow changes.
@@RamboQuellz you hit the nail right on the head!!!
@@vibrationsonempress1845 exactly she definitely has multiple flows
And the flow that they are talking about is what blows up the most so obviously she’s going to stick with that formula much more. She’s doing what works for her, but like you said she’s very versatile
Now Zach...we both know Ice Spice does NOT deserve a Grammy for ANYTHING she's put out thus far...she better be glad she was even acknowledged cuz I thought Jay Zs comment about some of yall don't deserve to be in the category was a jab at her along with several other artists
👏👏👏👏
Yup especially with that new fart song…
yes!!! i like ice spice as well but she has yet to prove herself
Cry about it🧘🏽♀️
Let's not forget Nicki also brought up Rihanna's DV and called it a controversy
That was just so disgusting of her tbh
@@yyuri25 Chris Brown dated her for a time, and beat her up during an argument. She was quite heavily attacked by him, and there's pictures of it, since she reported him to the police.
Which is crazy because Nicki has experienced DV !
It was so disgusting
Like that's your friend, and you're going to bring up her DV?
It's not relevant at all, that's the point lol. You're not slow at all, it's just so random for Nicki to say Megan wanted her "Rihanna moment" like that's so gross? @@yyuri25
The fact that people think Ice Spice was going to win Best Rap anything when she’s one of thee worst rappers is insane. Barbie World was the most subpar song in the category. The fact she was nominated was gracious of the Grammy.
Facts . She was nominated for best new artist too😮
@@CarolinaBlue12 Right, when previous BNA winners includes Billie Eilish, Sam Smith, Chance the Rapper, Amy Winehouse, Adele, Carrie Underwood, John Legend, Noah Jones, and Alicia Keys. 😭😭😭 Be serious. Ice doesn’t have any artistry or artist development.
@@_KayBee_ and Victoria Monet deserveddd
My thoughts too. I don't think she was ever slotted to win.
Thank you! This is the point people are missing. That song was not the strongest in the category. Not to mention, votes are casted in rounds well in advance of the Grammys airing. Nothing Nicki or Meg did that week was changing. The Grammys tweet is a different story.
Megan outsmarted Nicki in every way possible and Megan played this rollout for hiss perfectly! Not only does Meg have a Solo #1 Debut but she won the rap beef with Nicki
Yes that’s how you do a rollout. There’s even MERCH lol
People calling it a gimmick or whatever but that discounts the fact that megan played this flawlessly!! She played the cards she was dealt with and came out on top
No one really won anything. I feel like it’s far from over. If Nicki had stayed quite y’all would be sayin she was scared to respond and already lost and now yall r saying she lost despite responding and being successful in many ways. People thought that Cardi would come out on top of the rap beef between her and Nicki and Nicki continued to prosper. It’s not the win yall think it is 🤷♂️
Megan is a fake and cunning person
Whole time Nicki has a tour she's meant to be rehearsing for.
And I must say, I am FURIOUS at girls like Cardi because we told her to STHU and stop going back and forth. Nicki is a master at provoking others and thrives on online beefing and public shaming. Meg has revealed Nicki's weakness - being ignored 💅🏾
This is the one☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾NM is always talking about “bait” and “teaching lessons” literally trying to son the new girls and they fall for it most times. Meg didn’t and Nickis face cracked🫠
Ain’t she on a hiatus rn? If not atleast we were so we tryna do better.
This the comment😂‼️‼️
This the one 🎯🎯🎯
@@Wtfhappenedto2024 yes, but Nicki and cards have been subbing each other back and forth on Twitter for years.
nicki saying megan wanted a rihanna made me stream hiss 20 times on repeat that night lol
PERIOD. I haven't opened iTunes to buy a song since 2013 but I SURE DID after I heard they were fuckin with that lady's gravesite. Bought all 6 versions on iTunes AND Amazon music I was so heated
Lmaooooo same
This is the point Nicki is trying to show ppl! Lmao genius
@@chrissysfitnessjourney Nicki has no point.
@@chrissysfitnessjourneyRihanna was dragged for what happened. People were making fun of her, sharing the photos, mocking her. Also defending Chris Brown, what moment did Rihanna have?
I'm a Swifty through and through and I loved Midnights album, but SZA DESERVED AOTY! SOS was incredible and was no skips, stayed at number 1 on the charts for what, 10 or 11 weeks straight? I mean...that was a huge snub. I think they just wanted to give it to Taylor so she could have the record for having the most AOTY wins, which is 4. No one else has done that, and it's impressive. HOWEVER, it was nowhere near as good as SOS. SOS was phenomenal and made me a SZA stan!
I love Midnights and it got me into Taylor's other albums too but I gotta agree with you, SZA was definitely snubbed
@@pipitayun.r2763respectfully as a swiftie I disagree I thought my girl deserved her flowers now as for performances TRACI CHAPMAN AND LUKE COMBS ( FAST CAR ) was the ONLY REASON I WATCHED THE GRAMMYS ( the Simpsons was on that night and I NEVER MISS THE SIMPSONS )
1000% agree with you as a swiftie. the second i heard them say her name i could already hear the comments which were completely right tbh. they only gave it to her because of her general success this year, not because of the success of her album. sza absolutely destroyed the charts with her album and deserved it so much more!
Hope you remember she took the whole 10 spots of the billboard , then why she wouldn't win the AOTY
@shubamsabarwal3111 Taylor had all 10 spots? Yeah she did for a bit. And cruel summer was on it too from 2019 🤣 I loved that shit
Meg did a clean-sweep on this sh*t! Played it perfectly, she’s in her prime rn and I’m so confident that she’s gonna get to the next level in her career this year
Good luck cause Nicki gone silent now and no Nicki no CLOUT .
She definitely has a plan and I’m here to see how it pans out. Rooting for Megan!
No Nicki no clout, let’s check back to see how that career doing in a year or so lol.
@@andygeorge3833 She already had a planned rollout since Cobra. Nicki just volunteered to be an unpaid employee on Megan's team.
@@AshleyJanelle89yep, we love a good intern bahaha😂
The way Nicki been acting, she had it coming
Watch how yall cry when she rises back up, freaking idiots trying to speak down on a black queen! Loser
Nah, "Hiss" is a banger. The drama helped, but so what? A hit is a hit is a hit. And again, "Hiss" is certified FIRE.
😂🎉 “people wan-na kick it when they know you not a threat, these these nighas don’t like me CUS THEY KNOW IM ON THEY NECK‼️‼️” - Megan thee stallion
The drama helped her tremendously lol no Meg song charts high unless she has an another celebs help.
🔥 🐍 🔥 🐎
@@chandlerbbbbWait, Nicki has only debuted at #1 once on Billboard by herself. It’s only been 3 rap women to do it. Lauryn, Nicki, and Meg. Give credit where it’s due.
A GLOBAL smash, with no hook
When are the girls going to learn that Megan is protected by her ancestors? Whenever you have a parent, who loved you in life…especially your mother, who has transitioned, you have protection.
This. My life has changed since my grandma passed - I know she’s interceding on my behalf. ❤
I say this all the time!!! Meg gets A LOT of hate, especially from ppl who look just like her. BUT something/someone is protecting her! I can't describe it... Most people who took so many extreme losses like she did, would've caved. And I know it's times when she wanted too, but GOD! I genuinely wish her all the best
Did a tarot reading... Megs ancestors are powerful and they come through loud and clear. Its not just her mom... I picked up on several entities! 👀
Exactly and that Karma (feat. Ice Spice) is gonna hit Nicki like a runaway train…
Her mom AND grandmother transitioned in a relatively short time span of each other. Megan is GOOD as far as spiritual protection, but ppl forget how real energy is. It never dies, merely transfers. As far as I’m concerned, that woman is as protected as Harry Potter was after his mom put that protective spell on him before she died fighting Voldemort, if that makes sense. Nicki is a wicked person with an evil spirit, so nothing she or anyone opposing Megan does will EVER truly stick and take hold. And Megan has played this whole thing so genius, I can also tell she’s taken notes from Beyoncé with how she’s handling social media and engaging with nonsense. Truly a chess game if I’ve ever seen one in the landscape of rap beefs.
Nicki promoted HISS as a diss record towards her, and did that make a lot MORE people run to listen? Yes, bc they wanted to hear, but also, HISS is a BANGER! And definitely put more eyes on Megan.
Yes Hiss is so good. I listen to it without even thinking of anyone in particular.
True BUT its also because the general public just realy liked the songt. If it was all for drama and people just wanted to hear what she said than it wouldnt have been 1 on spotify and apple for almost the whole week. They would have just listened to it once like most people did with big foot that song only got goos streams the first day
@@weinhereeeee9271if people liked it so much it wouldn't be predicted to fall down 14 spots on bilboard it's clear most ppl were streaming it to spite nicki
I honestly think they would've not given Ice Spice/Nicki M. that award even if she didn't do the "lying on yo dead mama" line
Yup that’s where shit went too far
I agree with that.
I think she would have gotten the Grammy if she hadn’t went on that rant. Public opinion means a lot too. That was quite embarrassing. Do you think they were going to highlight someone like that. They probably wish they hadn’t gave Killer Bill or whoever he was one 😂 after he got handcuffed.
@@sjd283not to mention that she indirectly disrespected pimp c and bun b trying to get at meg. That didn't sit right with a lot of industry ppl considering that a southern rapper put her on! Then calling out rock nation... She did herself no favors! She deserves that award... But shes not going to get it... Ever! Thats sad
I don't think so either and the Grammy award has the award info engraved on it. I just don't see them quickly running to make another Grammy award. I think they already had him as the winner before the beef escalated.
Megan played chest whilst Nikki played checkers. When a person is slightly slience, not saying nothing. That person is planning to move in silence. Nikki was poking at this woman and took her being quiet as weakness when it's really giving planning a time to strike. Smart
which REALLY plays into the whole snake 🐍 theme bc they dont attack right away they wait for the right time
Hiss
@@jjfiendthe fact she dropped this around grammy time...was definitely calculated idc 😂😂😂😂😂 LMFAOOOO Nicki got GOT
@@kasharianthony3661 GOT!!!!!!!!!!
Chess* Nicki*
Where is this whole idea that Megan never changes her flow coming from? Didn’t Hiss have atleast 3 flows in itself? Is it her cadence or her flow that’s the same? This is a genuine question because maybe I don’t know what flow means😂
Also, at the end of the day…Nicki isn’t likeable🤷🏾♀️I’m sorry to say it. She’s the queen of rap-100% I don’t think we’ve had anyone who can touch her pen-but these other girls are MUCH more marketable. What’s crazy, is that Nicki used to play the game SO well. I was watching a video of Nicki performing Did it on Em and she used to have such presence and be SO confident. Maybe not always “relatable” but you felt the greatness….
Can we pinpoint the moment when it started going downhill? Is it really when Cardi entered the picture??? Nicki is one of the artists who I have genuine respect for their music, but absolutely can’t stand as a person. She made it in my top 5 wrap, but I don’t follow any of her socials or keep up with her as a person🤷🏾♀️
Definitely they just say anything
@@daisyb4614okay, I thought I was going crazy🤣
Facts
I'm starting to think people don't know what flow is. She definitely has multiple flows...also I don't hear that criticism with male rappers who actually have 1 flow
I think it’s her accent and they go on about her flow being the same. She always does flow switches and they can’t hear past her accent it’s kinda annoying
Megan Thee Stallion in the Marvel cinematic universe. She’s in the renaissance world tour movie she’s created a brand for herself that no one will ever forget.
Then buy her music after this beef
@@dangelomoore6674okay
@@dangelomoore6674you thought you ate here. Many people will STILL buy her music.
Everyone forgot because she had to cancel everything from low sales on everything
Ice Spice did not deserve that Grammy. I need all of us to bffr.
I mean the song was a bop 😂
Ice spice was collateral unfortunately. 🤷🏾♀️ and Megan is likable. Ppl like Meg and how she responded boosted her passing Nicki. If Nicki was likable things would be different not to mention who she’s married to. No one wants association to that.
Please tell me how is Megan pass Nicki with one song? 😂
Facts being likable goes a long way to achieve longevity
@@shantellrichardson4655 its not about music before this ALOT of my friends do not like Nicki they do not like her personality they think its negative and nasty so they refuse to even try to listen to any music of hers or anything she is on because of persona or how she is online and they do not like her fan base they think the same of them they call them toxic and actually agree with some of the comments i have seen on youtube they believe her fans help keep her toxic me i have learned you either have to separate the artist from the music and tune out what they do and say with their personal life and sm otherwise nobody will like any artist at this rate
i do think its strange that only in our genre for women that we have beef this bad and can not get along and it can sabotage your career if you work with the wrong person the men can beef but a bag is a bag to them nowadys so they will fake it to get the bag if they have to and the public wont know and think they squashed the beef but bts its war lol but the instant you a black female rapper the interviewer will ask you cardi or nicki the divide is strong and kept up with men and fans when the bag would be so much bigger for a lot of these artist but hey drama and pride is a hellva a drug
@@shantellrichardson4655listen I love nicki as much as the next person, but her response to Megan was honestly terrible, the bars were mediocre ( most of them were just what she tweeted from the previous night), the beat was tired and worn out sounding, and then not to mention the fact that she kept talking about Megan's dead mother... I'm sorry but that's just not something you do, the woman is deceased and not there to defend herself or her daughter, and I guess she wasn't directly coming at her mom but she kept bringing her mom into it, that's bully energy right there.... And Don't even come at me with the fact that she brought up Nicki's husband..because Nicki's husband is a terrible person, I don't see how somebody who apparently has so much respect for herself could be married to somebody who has literally been convicted twice, once for murdering somebody and the other time for raping someone, it is honestly pathetic that she's trying to defend him😂🤡
@Jsv_102104 One of the reasons Nicki married her husband is because he is a murderer! She literally brags about "marrying the shooter" in every other song she made since she got with him! She loves the fact that he's killed someone and it speaks volumes of her character. She doesn't care that he's a convicted rapist, she constantly makes excuses for what he did by saying he was 16 when it happen like that makes it okay 🤯🤦🏾♀️.
A LIST of Nicki's tactics:
A five day public meltdown
Creating five diss tracks over time (showing how pressed she was)
Taking the beef to every major platform
Endorsing doxxing through likes
Calling Megan's ex friends and bragging about it
Painting Megan as a someone who wanted to end the life of Nicki's baby
Criticising Megan's flow
Criticising Megan's achievements
Criticising Megan's nose
Criticising Megan's body
Implying she was a liar and that Tory was innocent
Mocking her injuries (only contradicting herself)
Fuelling the narrative that darker skinned women were creatures to be hunted
Releasing an entire diss track around the concept
Bragging about it going number one on Itunes
Being disrespectful to Megan's dead mother.
The FACT Megan said NOTHING but signed a deal and debuted at number one on BILLBOARD has exposed Nicki for what she has become; a parody of her former self 🗣🗣🗣🗣
@lottiej5855Nicki isn't darkskinned.
@lottiej5855 did you just say nicki minaj is dark skin😭😭😭
@lottiej5855Nicki is nowhere near dark skinned 😂 Nicki is brown skinned at best. She's about one shade away from being light skinned.
Both Nicki & meg are brown skinned girls, not dark skin or light skinned, different shades of brown skinned@lottiej5855
Nicki ate that!!! 😝😝🔥🔥🔥
When I seen her put the straw back in the henny I HOLLARED 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🎉🎉🎉
Same!! But in a tiny bottle and only tiny sips because she’s clearly not trying to go back to that life. Growth ❤
@@californiumcoati exactly!!!!
The mfs who complain about her flow simply just don’t listen to her music fr 😂😂😂
We do listen to her and we have determined that she will always stick to one flow
Right they just mad
@ismekev5827 Exactly!
Y'all barely listen to her if y'all did her last album would've charted
@@londonevans clock it
My concern is the way Nicki is flirting with alt-right people and theories during this melt down.
She’s been off her rocker for years
Because she congratulated Ben Shapiro on one song??? Please give me a break
@@bodaciousbeanShe’s been flirting with the alt right for a while now. You don’t remember those anti-vax tweets?
Something her brainless stans will never point out or talk about. "It's just jokes1!1!1" "It's just trolling!1!1!1" Wonder if this was her start to the alt right grift.
@SonderDAzeX-nc6vgidek if she is antivax fr. Her husband's victim had an interview around that time- nicki had to find some way to bury it with bs 🤔
love how it always feels like you’re just our friend shooting the shit about industry tea ❤️
What I don’t like about Nicki is that she gave off pickme energy. This is not women empowerment. You’re telling another blk woman that no man will stand behind her is bogus af. Nicki should know better especially after that conversation she had with Kevin Samuels. Nicki made it seem like Megan can’t get a man and that should not be a woman’s main attention because we are the prize. The bottom line is Nicki has a issue with any female rapper that can go head up with her. Ice Spice and Sexy Red are trash rappers nothing about them screams real raw hip hop. They can’t even rap on beat for ish so Nicki doesn’t feel threatened by them. Not to mention Nicki’s fans have forgotten that she was told to her face that she was banned from the Grammy’s. Nicki could have won along time ago but she messed that up by going against their wishes.
Always been a pickme
Nicki Not getting a Grammy after that 2012 performance she got so much flack from the Grammys themselves for the demonic representation that I'm not surprised for them awarding her
She’s misogynistic.
As a member of the GP (general public) who really didnt listen to much from either of them. Nicki’s unhinged reaction was a complete turn off from her as a person. Gave Megan a whole follow on IG and started checking out her other songs and that’s probably the case with a whole lot of people. Megan definitely won this round. Not sure if Nicki can really comeback from this disaster she’ll need a good PR agent but we’ll see.
Nicki always comes back strong and on top in every disasters.
Y'all forget too soon 😂
Nicki has a strong fanbase so I think she’ll be fine. But this situation will definitely be a stain on her reputation she can’t get rid of.
@@sophiauzor9839because you cult members will always support a crazy person with drug issues, hangs around SO's, and speaks on dead parents
I like both ladies (bigger overall fan of Nicki) but I definitely went back to listen to hiss and downloaded it once Nicki went off because it made me want to really dissect the song. Same thing she did when she ranted about Travis Scott years ago.. I ended up listening to the album and now it’s one of my favorites when I would have never gave it a listen without her rant.
Hiss made me an ex barb. Not wasting any energy on someone who would get on a song making fun of someone’s deceased mother. Absolute trash.
yall people are slow. she never talked ABOUT her mother. she said she was LYING ON her dead mother. that’s it. y’all can’t act like meg is a goodie. she’s a pathological liar and people have proven that multiple times.
singing "lying on your dead mama" is still making fun of someone's deceased mother. you can't honestly sit here and say thats respectful. i said what i said. if you dont get that you're the slow one. @@katherinethames5289
I wished you drew that line when she collabed with the sex offender or defended the following after...
Hiss is legendary 😊
@@katherinethames5289 cry
Can we be all the way real? Nicki disrespected the owner of the grammy's. What did she think was going to happen after that? She overestimated her star power at the time she pulled that performance stunt.
What happened?
Which performance stunt?
They told her not to perform the night that Whitney Houston died but Nicki disobeyed their request and performed anyway. Thats what started everything
@KyuubiNemesis94 Okay thank you. But they couldn't stop her ? Don't they run the set I don't know how this stuff works🤷🏾♀️
@@brianacooper9341 I’m not sure either. I think they had asked her last minute when they heard the news of Whitney’s passing, but I think because it was Nicki’s first Grammy performance she basically said “fuck that I’m going to perform anyway”. Because it was last minute I don’t think they had anything else planned, so they were just going to leave the 3-5 minute time slot empty or on commercial break without her performance .
The way Bey shouted out the Black/Latino PRIDE flag through lyrics was enough to be better than Harry's ENTIRE album.
❤
I love your appreciation for Megan!! Honestly she’s become one of my FAVORITE female rappers
And been!!!
she yo favorite rapper now cuzz u think she won against nicki
😂😂😂 funny
Let’s add to that that Nicki helped WILLINGLY 😂 she could’ve very well stayed quiet and dropped her response track, but instead she went on a online rampage about it, leading people to go listen to Hiss and see what it is that she was so upset about. The problem with that is that Hiss is FIRE so Nicki actually did herself a disservice 🤣
If you gon talk about another woman’s song for days on end then at least make sure yours is better when it’s your turn ….. & that she did not.
The fall of Nicki is like the fall of a tyrant, a lot of people are delighted that her mean character is getting exposed. She's nasty and she might not be able recover from this one😩.
Yall been sayin that for 10years and yall still streamin ☠️
Fall? This was just a battle. And just like Nicki won the war against Cardi, she will win the war against Megan. 😂
She’s not falling. Go check the streams. Go check the sales. Nicki Minaj is wayyyy bigger than any “beef”
This round one babe😫 I doubt Megan gonna come back for round 2 enjoy yall only victory 🤣
@@ismekev5827💯😂
Zach PLEASE DO a video on Janet Jackson Superbowl controversy and the media blackballing and how her chart success was affected after 2004!
We need to have that conversation because it still bothers me.
Perfect topic. I was 12 watching Justin Timberlake (who I LOVE) humilite Ms. Jackson 😮
This. It wasn't talked about enough.
Even if Meg is able to do it without the beef, the fans won’t let her have it. Even now with it being clear as day how hard and strategic she played this beef, they’re still being delusional and biased. They hate to see anyone but Nicki receive their flowers or talent be truly appreciated 🤷🏻♀️
EXACTLY. They move the goalposts. They said Remy only had bars, but it didn't count because she didn't sell. And now? They're making more excuses because Meg had bars AND it DID sell. 🤣
It was the chanting lying on yo dead mama for me. I expected Nicki to respond smarter than that we should be talking about the Everybody video & PF2.
Yea I agree, that part was completely unnecessary. Nicki should know better!
I still don’t think they would’ve gave her the Grammy.
Truthfully, before Hiss, we already knew about Nicki's husband and brother. There were folks already done with Nicki, myself included, because of that. I agree that some people definitely hopped on the wagon, but i think a majority of people were just so happy that she finally got called out on it.
Between Nicki's pedophiles and her alleged cocaine use, i fully believe Megan wanted to drag Ms. Minaj through the mud so that Nicki can stop acting like an Internet bully, wake up, pick herself up, and cut out the toxicities feeding into her art. Bigfoot was not the serve so many people say it was, if anything, it should be seen as a cry for help. Hiss did not need Nicki Minaj, Nicki Minaj needed Hiss.
The gag is Megan didn’t even take a sip of the henny
I thought I was the only one that noticed she wasn't even drinking that shit. Lol
She did, but it was only like two. She's on her fitness journey so I think she's cutting back on alcohol.
The gag is the way the people blatantly ignore the fact meg had a drinking problem because she was depressed. Like people really will harrass someone and then when they start spiralling, wanna act like it's the person's fault.
You’re so right. After Queen, Nicki started going downhill it hasn’t been the same since
Megan had the kpop fans, scarlet witch fans, and anime fans rooting for her. Kpop stans made posts and threads treating her like an idol and streamed her music.
Everything you said was tea.... Truth and justice.... Megan is literally doing what Nicki did back then when she would make her songs and let the craft speak for itself. Nicki rants did help push the record... Not to take away the heart and soul of hiss. I LOVE HISS.
This situation reminds me of what happened to Nicki and Kim. When Kim would react to Nicki's songs. It pushed Nicki more just like Nicki's actions help pushed the record.
Congratulations to Meg. She did her thinggggg. I wish her more blessings in the future.
Megan won because she was strategic. ♒
Nicki lost because she was impulsive. ♐
Life is political, I grew up in the top of the food chain. When you go and scream about the mother it makes everyone and everything step away because if they don’t they are seen as endorsing the behavior. I grew up in the political world so I saw this coming a mile away. No one is going to mess with Niki for a while. I think it will take a huge amount of effort for her to come back and be liked half as much.
Stfu. It's Nicki Minaj we're talking about here , she always come back and stronger
@@sophiauzor9839nah fr 😂😂😂
Midnights did not at all deserve album of the year ESPECIALLY against SOS!
This! They did SZA so dirty. She ran the billboard charts the entire year.
@@Bobbybentayga Always disrespecting Black women who actually deserve the award. 🙄
I’m a full barb and I will say Megan did eat imma give her her props
Regardless... Ice Spice didn't deserve to win that Grammy AT ALL.😂
Agree
AT ALLLLLL😂
Ice spice won a Grammy !? 😱😒
@@nickeyj5539No she didn’t but she was nominated.
@@urbanzs even the nomination is crazy 😭 wow what music has come too smh
Meg went on live yesterday and said that she condensed the song tremendously so now I wanna hear the full version because if this one riled everyone up like this I can only imagine what the full one would do 🌚
I still listen to Hiss like it’s a regular song. I don’t really think about the drama when I’m listening to it.
The fact that she said the song was the condensed 😅 I can’t help but wonder what else was said
Zac you got to do the research before posting. From Megs flow, her prior number 1s, to how well Hiss was charting prior to Nickis response.
Yep. Zach exactly. I am a whole hottie but without all the smoke Nicki gave that record, and without all the nastiness and the stuff about the deceased mother, even I would not have streamed the song as much as I did and I certainly wouldn't have opened up my iTunes AND AMAZON MUSIC to buy multiple copies. Nicki fell for the trap. I think it was strategic and planned in advance. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE HISS 🐍. The video is sickening. The bars are fire. But this is a perfect example of paying your enemies too much attention and that energy being used against you. She also got thar long coveted Grammy snatched out of her hands as a result. I agree that was no accident. She was set to win that thing but they changed it because of how she behaved. Oh well. Taste of her own medicine. A life lesson to everyone about the cost of being so hell bent on destroying your enemies that you destroy yourself while they continue to thrive. Sad story.
HEY ALEXA PLAY HISS!
Nicki finally got beat at her own game. Megan won so hard lol
Your skin looks SO good!
The Grammy page win was an edit, it’s easily manipulated in the text editor function in web browsers, that wasn’t intentional and Grammys have all the winners saved as drafts, it was mistakes, not intentional
No but the circumstances around it make everyone strongly believe that it was deliberate. She might have been intended to win initially.
I agree!!! I really wanted SOS to win!
I don’t need Nicki to say nothing else til this tour is over
😂😂😂
The Grammys knew exactly what they were doing with Nicki and if anyone say otherwise they lying. Nick torpedo her win this year because of “lied on yo dead mama” BS
The W that Megan has can only be given by arch angels and a praying mother whose fighting spirit lives on to protect her daughter. The deliberate Grammy snub was the icing on the cake and Hiss debuting at number 1 because of hotties AND stans from all over was the Cherry on top. Muah 💋 x
Nicki not winning is the definition of "Well if it isn't the consequences of your own actions" 😂😂
I’m not even a Nicki fan I personally think she has been wronged by the industry and some rap girls but I also feel she is no victim and contributes to her negative perception but the Grammys 100% did that on purpose in hopes of getting a response from her. I refuse to believe that a mistake that huge could happen and then be immediately taken down.
Believe it, because it happened.
I think your commentary is very fair here. I'm a casual streamer and listener of both ladies, but I'm a diehard Meg fan now. Imo Nicki is her own worst enemy. She's always seemed very mean spirited to me. After she had Papa and I would see clips of her being sweet with him, I was like "ok maybe she ain't that bad" but idk man, she just can't stay outta mess and it's tiring.
Hiss is a hit all by itself. The video and the song is fire 🔥
I love you Zach! I love how you objectively dissect topics like this, without bias and with a lot of sense.❤️❤️❤️
I love how Zach always speaks on things with love and not malice. He could honestly be such a good advisor to some of these celebs. In my possibly unpopular opinion: *Nicki shouldn't respond at all to Meg or any other female rapper* It's time to pay them dust, and maybe only make subtle jabs in the music that have to be decoded to even be noticed. Nicki's the mf Queen of Rap. Focus on your tour, focus on your family, your health, your businesses, new music etc... and move in silence. I know she loves connecting with the Barbz, but social media breaks are good for everyone. The industry and internet love to see Nicki fall. Don't give them any more ammo.
I guarantee she not gonna do any of that. She's too insecure, childish and petty to start moving like that. And barbz, especially twitter barbz make things worst for her. Oh well, too bad.
@@TiaMLE-jc5zk Nicki is incredibly childish it's actually hilarious
I think it’s way too late. As a former Nicki fan, I stepped back from stanning her years ago because I saw something like this coming. The more she continues to act like this, the faster she tarnishes her legacy.
For me she went from an extremely talented female rapper to a bitter woman who has talent, but hates sharing success with her peers so much that said peers just decide one day that she needs to go.
@@MercenaryPine9honestly I used to love big nicki! She lost me with that whole #blackgirltragic ... I said oh bish! No! That had me in a chokehold
@@thehyenamakeupslayer3819 Although I can’t speak on that, I can say a lot of things she was doing made me cringe. I had a feeling something was up when Remy Ma happened. Then she mentioned Jehlani in Shether and I looked that up. I was like, “Oh, hell nah!” And then TROLLZ came out and I saw who she chose to surround herself with. Never looked back. Who the hell supports this shit willingly?
That’s exactly what I said I think Nicki actually did win but because of her behavior and the fact that she already burned so many bridges in the music industry and pissed off some big names bosses they said “Hmm? Dead mother…yeah never-mind”
Also with Taylor I have loved her since RED back in 2014 but I have to say compared to SOS and other nominees in the category Midnights just did not compare and I have a few favorites on it but definitely not a winner.
How did Nicki win?
Yall really can’t believe anything ice spice makes is worthy of a Grammy lol
I appreciate hearing your perspective, Zach. It's so refreshing.
You 1000% right about Megan using beef to get her sales up. I remember Kendrick did it when he said he was "the King of New York" on Big Sean Control. Which in turned forced Big Sean to take a back seat to his own damn song.
I'm here for the hip-hop music and the beef that comes with it. I can't wait for all this drama to end so that people who suddenly think they're hip-hop experts can move on to something else.
If you thought Bigfoot was evil, you haven't heard "No Vaseline" by Ice Cube.
I agree! I'm definitely a Nicki fan, BUT Megan came with THEE FLOW on this song! The visuals were lit and like you said, she gave Nicki a taste of her own medicine. Definitely think Megan has been listening to Beyonce and Jay's mentoring advice. Hopefully Nicki will learn to not let her emotions run the show and be more "strategic" and Megan will continue to build from this record and grow as an artist! ❤
Love your energy Zach
Not me waiting for this call lol.
LET THEM KNOW!! SZA should’ve won Album of the Year. Like come on!!! 😭😭😭
What’s funny is that Hiss dropped clear out the top 10 one week after it was released, proving that had Nicki paid it dust, Megan wouldn’t have even seen top 20. 😌
I also think Nicki should have gotten a grammy in her prime.
I'm happy for Megan.
The fact that Nicki went on a whole twitter rant for days and Megan basically didn’t respond at all is sending me😂😂😂😂
she blocked barbs on her account while being “on break”, which is so clown
@@im2loopd4uClown is being the self-proclaimed “Queen” but ranting online for 72hrs 😂 Clown is being a bitter veteran who’s legacy has been reduced to a stan account.
@@beenontopdraftpick Damn you better read they ass 👏🏽😂
Imo if I thought the Grammys were gonna play in Nicki face and give her the Grammy with Ice Spice and not alone. Then the haters would always troll her about not having a Grammy alone. 🤔
Thanks for keeping it real. As much as I am a fan of Nicki she can be a menace. But babyyyyyyy the Grammys are tired for that! She deserves her Grammy and they played in her face.
Sad to see, but unfortunately she has herself to blame for that. No one asked her to do all that last weekend and she should have thought about the Grammys coming up! She lost focus and lost something that she was owed. Sad!
I mean, aside from her antics, I think it’s definitely well deserved.
Boo hoo. Its her own fault.
@lottiej5855Absolutely she does.
@lottiej5855I don't support Nicki and I even think she should've had at least one by now.
The barbs who condone nicki's reaction don't want her to shine
Wait, because the way you said this about Meghan "her talent will always prevail - through any controversy... the pen is alway penning" and it can be applied exactly to Taylor Swift and her career as well. I'm not sure if you realize that... lol There's a REASON Taylor has been relevant and at the top of the game for SO MANY YEARS. People can say whatever they want, but HER PEN IS ALWAYS PENNING and always at a higher level than others. I'm sorry but it just is what it is. She is an ARTIST, a WRITER, a STORYTELLER through and through. There's just simply no way to go around that fact. And that's why people can kick and scream and whine and complain, but she will not disappear, because regardless of what opinions people have, HER ART AND LYRICS speak for themselves, it's really as simple as that. If her lyrics were not up to snuff, she would have faded to the background sooooo many years ago, but the gag is... THEY ARE UP TO SNUFF lol We can complain all we want, but at the end of the day, the truth is in the pudding (HER LYRICS CAN CARRY HER LEGACY).
I don't get how Nicki could lose a Grammy for speaking on someone's deceased parent when most of the rappers who won said way more crazier shit. Especially Killer Mike who gotten arrested after winning his awards.
Nicki has been blocking her winnings all these years, dissing the Grammys and making many enemies. Do you really think she would actually win one?
@Vixen1000 your comment is low-key unrelated to what they said they're basically saying the lyrics ain't the reason
That killer Mike situation is not the same at all. Let's be very clear.
Sexism maybe?
Grammy noms are voted by your peers that are on the Recording Academy, that also includes fellow artists.
She's very unlikable, so ofc her peers aren't going to vote for her. People barely get along with her. Zach himself said people behind the scenes do NOT like that woman in an old video
If Nicki never responded HISS would've still been #1 imo. If Nicki came out with a diss song that ate Megan up, HISS wouldn't have been #1. Because Nicki ranted nonstop and came out with that wack ass diss track, HISS is #1. Proud of my baby Meg👏😜
The main question is will the “support” last for Megan? After listening to Hiss to spite Nicki, will that translate to other tracks? Will Megan gain respect from her rap peers?
Right now everything is very speculative. Which is good! Curiosity is good.
After Hiss, people who either didn't know about her or dismissed her have become stans, fans, casual and curious or _aware_ of her. Now it's up to her to make something of that energy buff. Her next album will have A spotlight. People will love it, hate or whatever but they will talk about it and they will always reference Hiss when doing so. As of now, we'll probably see increased visibility of her previous works as people start learning more about her.
Will her new and old fans rival the barbz in size and buying power? Probably not, but that's okay! Barbz is a 17 yo fandom. What Megan has to help counter that is marketability and good GP rating. She's _visible_ with endorsements, cameos, performances and sponsorships (Nike, Planet Fitness, Disney's She Hulk, Mean Girls, etc.). Her Summer Tour and album will help solidify her power. People will show up and corporations/businesses will perk up. Some examples: Hennessy @ Megan just a couple days ago after her IG live, also K-pop fans love her, she did a collab with BTS a couple years ago, anime fans love her because she is an anime nerd and I forget but there is a Japanese manga artist who created a character inspired by her. The crossover possibility is insane!
If she keeps that up, she'll be playing smarter and getting bags from several places. Maybe she won't have the highest, best, first all the time, but she has that ✨Independent Artist✨ tag as well as 3 Grammys. I'm sure a lot of sponsors are 👀 her rn.
As far as her hip hop peers, Megan sums up her feelings on the opening line of Hiss. She does not care what they have to say about her. Ironically the yin to Nicki's yang. Nicki don't gaf about GP but she has a prominent place of respect on the hip hop radio shows and pods. And Megan is like f that and them, y'all hate me, back at you - to a lot of those hip hop corners. In the long run (career wise), Megan chose the better portion. Those hip hop peers can be elitists and chasing their favor will turn you into Drake (talented but jaded and done with the disrespect). She's better off solidifying her personal legacy and pivoting into other avenues like other singers/rappers.
@@PrettyGreenMaiden That’s a fair analysis. Time will tell. I hope you’re right because she needs a break
First of all Beyoncé Wasn't even nominated and taylor swift album was really so I do not understand What's the matter with taylor swift winning album year ??!! We live in a world where
Celine Dion has 5 grammys
Mariah Carey has 6 grammys
Whitney Houston has 6 grammys
And Beyonce has 32 grammys YET Jayz is the one complaining she never won ONE specific award
Stopped at 10 seconds cause BAYBEEEE- WHY ARE YOU GLOWING LIKE THIS!!!! I need your skin 😂❤
I love love love Nicki but she definitely took the bait. How you keep poking at the girls and then when they finally respond (sorta)…… you’re not ready. Nicki been at that girl for years! Why was the diss track not ready to be released. Then she tweeted everything we heard like ….damn she ain’t got no one around her to say…..Girl just drop and shut up
Yea at the very least her husband should have shut it down.
Admitting that Nicki’s outburst helped further promote the success of “Hiss”, doesn’t diminish the record or Megan. It’s just a plain observation of the facts.
YES ZACH IM WITH YOU! I love Nicki but this is a NO.
I honestly don't get the Taylor Swift hate. SHE'S THE BEST, trust I want Beyonce to get album of the year too. But when you got white and brown people paying $1k+ for nosebleed seats and a song from three years ago charting top 10 on Spotify STILL. It's NS!!
Nicki helped???? So, having her fans trying to attack Megans mother grave was apart of it too? Nicki was literally in on that.
That was false and from a video in 2020.
@@Mars_cubedliar
I was watching all of it happen in real time on twitter
She was liking tweets encouraging people to go vandalize Megans mom grave
She's an evil woman
Imo, the recording academy had no plans on giving Nicki the Grammy. The Grammy social media dept was trolling.
I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE😁😁
Happy Tuesday Zach and Army 🤗❤️
Happy Tuesday!! ❤
People dont talk about how the barbs being such a hateful and antagonistic group helped too. It made ppl not wanna support nicki and then she encourages them by liking their tweets and hyping up the drama. Insighting rage amongst her fans. It makes ppl want to turn on her.
Megan did say on the breakfast club that hit dogs will holla. Nicki was hollering for sure.
#1 SMASH HIT DESERVED ! MEGAN THEE STALLION'S UPCOMING ALBUM IS ABOUT TO EAT IF NICKI CONTINUES TO ACT LIKE A DESPERATE MOTHER.
Exactly, it’ll only be good based off of what Nicki does 🙄☕️
Love Nicki but after all this I’m starting to feel like she’s going crazy.
you clearly don’t love Nicki because you can’t even spell her name
I wonder who Nikki is…..
She BEEN losing her mind. "Nutty Minaj."
@@radsmlweird take
@@radsml I’m dyslexic mb
Great job and I agree with (most of) your points! Ice Spice is bot Grammy worthy and "Hiss" bangs hard without Nikki's anger spiral.
Zach.. imma need you to be serious. Nicki saying what she said in her song has 0 to do with her not winning. This is an AWARD show. What artists choose to do outside of the show is none of their business. The Grammys has been playing in her face since the beginning of her career. This is the same organization who gave Kanye a Grammy even after he PISSED on it. Durk just won his first Grammy and he literally is a gang banger, murderer, etc. Jay & Bey have literally dissed the Grammys. YET? They’ve won several awards since then. So which is it?!
Who are they to “teach” her a lesson with that stunt ? All that did was prove to us that everything Nicki said about the Grammys were indeed true. If we’re going by that logic, then why does it only apply to her? Makes absolutely 0 sense.
That’s y’all’s problem .. thinking that artists should be “mindful” about what they do all for a trophy that doesn’t dictate shxt. You said the same thing when Nicki was snubbed for Super Freaky Girl nominations .. saying she should’ve kept her mouth shut. So I can’t speak up when an organization is doing everything in their power to work against me? I should shutup all for a tiny gold trophy? Even though I amass major success without it? Yeah, ok.
The true gag of it all is, Nicki doesn’t kiss 🍑 & they know it. She doesn’t act like she needs them. She pays them dust until they play in her face. She doesn’t diss them & act like she’s above them like your fav does. Why constantly show your disproval of them yet make it your business to attend their shows? You either care or you don’t.
Instead of waiting on them to get it “right”, we could be creating our OWN prestigious award. Make them want to come sit with US. Yet, they’re still waiting around for a “yes” from the white man. And the fact of the matter is, Nicki isn’t waiting around for them.. never will and they hate her for it. She does wtf she wants to do and isn’t afraid to do so. Why? Because she puts herself first.. telling herself “YES” before any white man can tell her “NO”. 💋
Nicki took a way different approach than what she normally does with her rap beefs. She responded almost immediately and allowed that girl to get more traction on her song. Then again I feel like Nicki is proving a point. In Big Foot she said she knows this is getting her the most attention that she’s ever had. None of Megan’s songs lately have done anything, but this one does. Haha we will see what the next single does/ or even her album. 😅
yes it’s a diff approach cuz she having a breakdown 😂 she was bothered and yall know it, the over explaining won’t help, megs been that girl and beyoncé and jay know it
I think Nicki just got emotional and realized she had to stand on business and that’s why she dropped the song. Megan never responded so ehhh idk I don’t consider it a rap need until she does. I think Nicki will drop the other song she said she had. But- I hate she took the troll approach to this. She should’ve did what she always does, keep it in music!!!
So the approach was for Megan to break all her records 😂 I think tf not she lost this battle.
Yea Nicki definitely proved her point, Jack Harlow is back to #1 so the hype came n went that fast