Witness To History: The Investigation of Robert Hanssen

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  • @pinklady7184
    @pinklady7184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I find true spy stories so interesting to listen.

  • @yolandaaguirre3379
    @yolandaaguirre3379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The story of how they caught Hanson was what I was waiting for...great panel.

  • @johardy8512
    @johardy8512 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow! Just listened to Sandy talking of her and Jean's book of investigation and arrest of Ames. Whatever brought me to this Spy Museum, I am grateful. My father began my interest in the 60's and Le Carre added to my fascination and admiration of those who try and keep us safe. Have now 'shared' with my brother and my son. Thankyou so very much for these marvellous productions.

    • @greendragon4058
      @greendragon4058 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same but shared with my mom love John Le Carre and I have that read this book that they talking about very good

  • @WW-on6bo
    @WW-on6bo ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The guy was literally caught copying stuff, he was under suspicion, and the incompetence at FBI made it all possible.

    • @MarvelousSeven
      @MarvelousSeven หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its not just the FBI - THE WHOLE OF GOVT IS THAT INCOMPETENT.

  • @j.b.9581
    @j.b.9581 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    At 1:32:24 Brian Kelly's widow thanks Mike Rochford and the panel for publicly saying that the 'FBI was wrong' in pursuing Brian Kelly of the CIA as the suspected mole. And then, Mike R. confirms Mrs. Kelly's statement and repeats it again, the "FBI was wrong." I don't know if the FBI said it anywhere else. Though Mr. Rochford is not a polished public speaker, he holds a wealth of knowledge and is worth listening to.

    • @lrodzen
      @lrodzen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Very respectful for them to own up to the mistake and explaining what they were thinking at the time. I'm sure that put her mind to ease a bit but this is obviously something that haunted Kelly and his family ever since he was accused. He was exonerated and finished his career with them but I'm sure he and his family still held some animosity towards those who did that to him.

    • @martin5940
      @martin5940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Barely!! The sound is awful and when he speaks he mumbles most of his words like if it isn’t interesting at all

    • @Whatever611
      @Whatever611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@martin5940 you sorry turd

    • @robertthegrape2192
      @robertthegrape2192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@martin5940 I agree with you. Rochford is an apologist for the bureaucracy and not a very good one at that. Mostly Rochford mumbled a bunch of gibberish that I couldn't understand. I am not an attorney, CIA agent/officeror even a college graduate however I know when someone is trying to blow smoke my ass. OH, BTW, I do have an Associate's Degree not that means shit! And I am 3/4 of a century old!!!

    • @-danR
      @-danR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@robertthegrape2192
      I found his diction clear, but his delivery agonizingly slow, tentative, and labored. Most of those defects were mitigated by turning the speed setting up to 1.25 .

  • @untermench3502
    @untermench3502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I have a different perspective on what happened with the Robert Hannsen affair, having been the CIA technical representative to the FBI during 1983 and had to work on occasion with Hannsen, who had to interface with me on technical issues relating to support from the CIA. During my tenure as representative to the FBI, I was approached by one of our Counterintelligence agents who showed me information that there might be a Soviet agent in the FBI, and since I was working with the FBI, I was chosen to deliver the bad news , this cause Hannsen to go ballistic and write a memo, in which he stated that I was interfering with his work. After going thru the archives, I found information that a project that Hannsen had worked-on had been compromised to The Soviets, but it didn't matter, since I was removed from the project and went on to other assignments. The rest is history.

    • @YouCanChangeYourWorldToday
      @YouCanChangeYourWorldToday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You just said a bunch of nothing. Meaningless.

    • @untermench3502
      @untermench3502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@YouCanChangeYourWorldToday
      I was there and very involved, you?

    • @untermench3502
      @untermench3502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @kwnyupstate
      MONOPOLY

    • @Bob31415
      @Bob31415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is an interesting story but Hanssen did not contact the Soviets until 1985.

    • @untermench3502
      @untermench3502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Bob31415
      Not correct. Hansen gave-up an FBI counterintelligence operation in 1979.

  • @judyevancic4926
    @judyevancic4926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I find the fact that 20 yrs came and went before they found this guy out. The damage he did to this nation is beyond being fixed. He was a traitor,so why allow him to live. We spend billions running the FBI and CIA and they never had a clue for all that time. So don’t pat yourselves on the back around this finding him out.

  • @redicderldavis
    @redicderldavis 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Very interesting. I have to say these speakers were very present to listen to. Terribly sad that Hanson not only betrayed America but his colleagues and his family.

  • @douglasmiller4351
    @douglasmiller4351 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bungling and incompetent security services. God help America if such incompetence continues.

    • @MarvelousSeven
      @MarvelousSeven หลายเดือนก่อน

      Government in general is this incompetent.

  • @greenpoint2012
    @greenpoint2012 11 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Unfortunately the FBI and CIA guys are average guys with all the power and resources of the state to do either good or do harm to the people or the country. It is really up to them. Checks and balances must be in place at all times.

    • @les21forever
      @les21forever 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In college one of my friends was the editor of the campus newspaper. Really smart guy, 3.75 gpa and almost too damn cute. He was very much against the Viet Nam war and the girls were all over him. In our senior year the FBI interviewed him and tried to recruit him. Those bozos didn't even realize he was a member of the SDS and a strong supporter of the Weather Underground. Luckily for the agency he told them to go to hell.

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Greg
      Finally, an intelligent and spot-on observation and comment.

    • @davewielhouwer11
      @davewielhouwer11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree. If an agent is going thru tough times at home our government needs to help them out. Divorce is so common in our agencies because they can't talk about work therefore the spouse suspects things. The hours are awful...so our government needs to understand the strain that puts on our agents. If we support our agents like we support our spies then many would not turn traitor

    • @1cugine359
      @1cugine359 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@davewielhouwer11 Everybody goes through the same problems without help!! Are you kidding me? It is the persons responsibility not their employers! I bet you believe in reporations for blk people also you clown

    • @morganghetti
      @morganghetti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are no checks on intelligence agencies anymore. No one including the media hold them accountable.

  • @pridenprejudice2004
    @pridenprejudice2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    What the heck is the story with the push blonde (and drunk???) woman who actually pushed her way up on stage insisting on being heard? I'd love to know who she is and what that was all about.

    • @stevenr7272
      @stevenr7272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Had to be Marjorie Taylor Greene 😆

    • @LIamaLlama554
      @LIamaLlama554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Definitely a wig…

    • @j.b.9581
      @j.b.9581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The issue was that the blonde person did not follow the way a panel works. When at an FBI panel, everyone follows the rules, period. *You don't mess with the FBI.* No exceptions. She handled herself incorrectly and was escorted out. No further discussion.

    • @pinklady7184
      @pinklady7184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would love to know her story and what beans she wants to spill.

    • @pinklady7184
      @pinklady7184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steven R Who is she, this Majorie Taylor Greene?

  • @darleneprice3492
    @darleneprice3492 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Does anybody really believe these agencies have improved?

  • @batcatatl
    @batcatatl 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just read 'The Spy Who Stayed Out in the Cold' by Adrian Havill so I had to check out this presentation.

  • @monteanderson7181
    @monteanderson7181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Watch it at 1.5x speed and Mike is a great speaker.

  • @Tony63909
    @Tony63909 10 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    They should have told about how Brian Kelley was brought back to the good graces. I feel very badly for him and his family.

    • @les21forever
      @les21forever 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And why did they call for security to cut off the blonde who grabbed the mic and tried to ask a question?

    • @Tony63909
      @Tony63909 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Leslie James She was a little out of order.

    • @MurrayJoe
      @MurrayJoe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That blondes was annoying as hell and stood up for a long time before question time, blocking off the view of Mike Rochford while he was talking, it was obvious she was going to be trouble. When they asked for questions, there were others in front of her, but instead of waiting her turn, she went up to use the MC's mike.

    • @daniellarge9784
      @daniellarge9784 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who was the blonde that was escorted out at the beginning of question time?

  • @gonymaha7654
    @gonymaha7654 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good 👍 great work….. understand is key 🔑

  • @RikodiusRex
    @RikodiusRex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You guys always wake me up because the volume never is equalized and I sleep with this on in the background. :(

    • @luminography
      @luminography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can you help me to understand why I listen to this stuff as I sleep?

    • @juniemoon1528
      @juniemoon1528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luminography Look up ASMR. ❤️

    • @velotill
      @velotill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the two elder gentlemen should have been miked up professionaly or at least given a table mike. Lots of feedback from holding it/speaking into it wrongly

    • @tjo1984
      @tjo1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doing that now.

    • @miztx2syuiip590
      @miztx2syuiip590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then look up BME

  • @James_Bowie
    @James_Bowie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The Russian claim that they never knew who Hanssen was doesn't hold water with me. Walk-ins like Hanseen are considered by all sides as potential 'dangles' (i.e. double agents) and they are usually treated with great suspicion from the outset until their bona fides can be established. My contention is that the Russians discovered everything possible about Hanssen before they accepted him.

    • @latinluv7007
      @latinluv7007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      James Bowie was

    • @robertthegrape2192
      @robertthegrape2192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rochford is an a$$hole. You know damned well they knew who hanssen was. i won't capitalize the first initials of traitors!

    • @jakeh6980
      @jakeh6980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We have massive traitor and pedophile running our country. Tue entire Democratic Party and Republican rinos are traitors and nothing will ever be done about it. They hold all the power and have been selling our country and all our secrets to China for decades which is how China has become such a military powerhouse in just a couple decades

    • @miztx2syuiip590
      @miztx2syuiip590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jakeh6980 yup looks like we will never really know anything as YT is crawling with people /channels that are mixed w/truths & lies- Scared or having their own motives to jam the lines --it’s no wonder “the people” are going to do nothing - it’s the whole purpose I suppose

    • @charleswhite8603
      @charleswhite8603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if you believe your own setup is/will be compromised?
      If unknown person A has info that matches with existing agent B, then A has access to intel.
      Should your own agents betray you, you could lose A and B. Or just lose B..
      Deliberately not knowing seems a valid strategy. I note the Russians had Bob's prints off the bin bags saved. They might not have access to prints but they know this holds Ramons irl identity.
      Of course, your dangle point is also correct, and should it be known that an agency accepts paid intel without IRL attribution it sets up issues as you describe, plus deliberate "dangle bombing" to create friction, delays and confusion to an opponent's intel acquisition, like a intel based Slow Lorris attack.

  • @jayjohnson8353
    @jayjohnson8353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Do they serve alcohol there or something? The drunk lady was hilarious

    • @FermatWiles
      @FermatWiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Timestamp?

    • @SageTheRage
      @SageTheRage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FermatWiles
      1:30:57

    • @johnr7279
      @johnr7279 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have two questions and I have been waiting for 40 minutes!

  • @madcrabber1113
    @madcrabber1113 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Failed at his job for 10 years and wasn't fired?

    • @musicstewart9744
      @musicstewart9744 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Mike Davitt Happens all the time in the Government.

    • @incidentalist
      @incidentalist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ALMOST impossible to be fired from GOVT! Sad but true!

  • @phincampbell1886
    @phincampbell1886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, "a premier," just one of many occupying the prime, first, singular, top, unique spot, a remark at the outset, filling me with confidence for what further I'll hear from such a speaker...

  • @Tibs_Budapest
    @Tibs_Budapest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I can't imagine being in solitary for 23 hrs a day. And he is in right now. How can someone bear that?

    • @preggioperson
      @preggioperson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It is designed to break a person, not make them. It is a terrible fate.

    • @bobbowie5334
      @bobbowie5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lots of suicides in that prison.

    • @Tibs_Budapest
      @Tibs_Budapest 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know?

    • @bobbowie5334
      @bobbowie5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tibs_Budapest Google _interviews at Supermax, CO-_ and see what became of that inmate.

    • @jvhfilms
      @jvhfilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was in High Security for 3 years!!! Worst part of being locked up, I lost my cool and punch a Asshole C/O in the face and every time I went up for the hearing I was denied 3X.. I wrote a few books some screenplays and thought deeply about my come bk! Besides all that, worst part of my life those 3 years!

  • @mvinge
    @mvinge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anybody know what the crazy lady was trying to allude to? @1:30:57

  • @pridenprejudice2004
    @pridenprejudice2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting case. The two gentlemen being interviewed meandered a lot giving their answers, but interesting all the same.

    • @j.b.9581
      @j.b.9581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dear OhNo, you are correct. One has to have patience while watching this presentation. However, the speakers know whereof and what-of they speak. WELL worth OUR TIME. Thank you.

  • @incidentalist
    @incidentalist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I think I'm actually the ONLY ONE who enjoyed listening to Mike Rochford.... Was interesting to me! :D

    • @j.b.9581
      @j.b.9581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Voice Of, I was transfixed while listening to Mr. Rochford. I studied the 'insider threat' for five years and wrote a dissertation on the topic . . Mr. Rochford is WORTH LISTENING to. Don't feel like you were the only one . . .

    • @daniellarge9784
      @daniellarge9784 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought he gave a very thoughtful and interesting talk.

    • @rudolphguarnacci197
      @rudolphguarnacci197 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have a big ego, jack.

  • @ronobrien5726
    @ronobrien5726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ames was married to a Brazilian woman who was, according to Ames, from a wealthy family. This was his cover for the house & the Jag. It was later that the truth came out. It started with the discovery that she was NOT from a wealthy family. The money then drew attention to him.

    • @allangibson2408
      @allangibson2408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      His change in attitude and demeanour when he returned from Rome in 1989 is what attracted attention. The money is what nailed him - banking $9000 the day after meeting a Russian intelligence officer (who he claimed to be recruiting) on three different occasions was definitely suspicious.

    • @METALITHrevetments
      @METALITHrevetments ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rosario is Colombian, not Brazilian.

    • @rehanmirza510
      @rehanmirza510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colombian

  • @donnathomas7302
    @donnathomas7302 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The apology at 1:30 would be more believable if not immediately followed by BUT

    • @jajanesaddictions
      @jajanesaddictions 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      EXACTLY. I was going to say the same thing. An apology is nice if it is heartfelt. Following said apology with a 'but' pretty much negates the apology. They never take real responsibility for the chaos they cause.

  • @mortalclown3812
    @mortalclown3812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Asking, please, if it's possible for captions - or even transcripts - to be added to these.
    Thanks so much for these extraordinary accounts.

  • @trissloan2340
    @trissloan2340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Crazy blonde storms the stage. Then, "Any questions from the audience?" The widow steps forward to single handedly try a federal case against the FBI!!!! I am actually surprised she ever relinquished control of the microphone. Damn, you feel hurt; how are loved ones of agents that were executed feeling?

  • @Dreaklock
    @Dreaklock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What was that about at 1:31:00 ?

  • @MonteD1
    @MonteD1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Apparently microphone stands aren't in the budget.

  • @walterm.robertsiiiphd2157
    @walterm.robertsiiiphd2157 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Listening to the agent's frank descriptions one gets a real feeling of just how screwed up the agency was. All the way from not having a counter on the copy machine to just being too egotistical to think it could be one of their agents. No wonder they have so many screw-ups. A bunch of arrogant a-holes.

    • @sunnymoondog
      @sunnymoondog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Walter Roberts yes!

    • @smitty19612008
      @smitty19612008 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Walter Roberts Federal Bureau of Inbred DUMBASSES

    • @mjj8788
      @mjj8788 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's called being human.

    • @trissloan2340
      @trissloan2340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oversimplification to the max. Hindsight is always 20/20.

  • @Rummy73
    @Rummy73 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the psycho incident at the start of the Q&A. 😂

  • @gradyhall691
    @gradyhall691 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUPER VIDEO!

  • @judyjackson2260
    @judyjackson2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As to understanding Hansen and Ames, no matter how complicated they are and contradictions in their characters; they all had money as a factor and I think ego and feeling undervalued or unappreciated was also a factor in their treason. What I can't understand is how they could live or justify the fact that fellow agents risking their lives and helping our nation were no doubt tortured and killed because of their treason. Nor do I understand causing such high level damage to our nation revealing extremely damaging information to our country. Also why are military men given a death sentence for rape and these spies who the same as murdered fellow agents get prison sentences and even some get out after years or get true life in prison? It seems to me their crimes are worse. It doesn't make sense. These traitors should be considered the same as war criminals or serial killers. Also if you have to be willing to take a polygraph to be in these intelligence agencies, then why not make it law that they can be subject to audit and justification of all funds not explained by their salaries. And there has to be a test or way of weeding out those who appear susceptible to becoming spies. Ego problems and a person not feeling they have reached their potential and resent it. Maybe narcissism plays a part in their character. I think talking to family and friends being interviewed could weed these people out.

    • @brad5150able
      @brad5150able 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ADX Prison is worse than death sentence!!!!

    • @thebluehotel426
      @thebluehotel426 ปีที่แล้ว

      In recent years, American spies have been able to strike deals in which they share with their agency what/whom exactly they compromised in exchange for a lesser sentence.
      My understanding is the FBI and CIA do monitor agents' bank accounts.

  • @scottjosen2606
    @scottjosen2606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating. Lot of griping here by the rapid gratification crows. Not all are public speakers yet these men did quite well, their focus being other than a podium or entertaining the quick fix, social media sorts.

  • @eclay432
    @eclay432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t understand how Hannsen was so insistent on keeping anonymity when he walked into the Russian embassy. Bob, they have film on you and probably your voice. No, they have it. They have you down to the short and curlies! I just found out he died in June. I am sorry for this guys family. They endured some terrible things I’m sure.

  • @cesaradvincula1233
    @cesaradvincula1233 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    they could have provided mic stand for mr. wise.

  • @jameshaxby5434
    @jameshaxby5434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know if there is a recording of Hanssen speaking ?

    • @visionsincolorand3d
      @visionsincolorand3d 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can hear him speaking on the phone to a Soviet agent in an episode of the Agent of Betrayal podcast which covers his whole story. I forget which episode but the podcast is very compelling. I binged it in like 2 days.

  • @Bikewithlove
    @Bikewithlove 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    43:56 - I just commented on the William Hurt movie that Hanssen is like a serial killer, and there you go.

    • @MandenTV
      @MandenTV 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Bikewithlove What's funny is there was a real serial killer named "Robert Hansen".

    • @Bikewithlove
      @Bikewithlove 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Manden - Ugh, of course it gets weirder...

    • @miztx2syuiip590
      @miztx2syuiip590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wth is this - the Nancy Drew club 🙄

    • @Bikewithlove
      @Bikewithlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miztx2syuiip590 - Pleasant, natural exchanges in conversation is what non-sociopaths enjoy. What do you enjoy?

    • @miztx2syuiip590
      @miztx2syuiip590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bikewithlove sociopaths you enjoy bikewithlove? I only want to make you happy sociopath has now been updated. Lol - hey just practicing ya never know

  • @raymondwebb267
    @raymondwebb267 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I like these videos but the microphone work is bad...

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did it ever occur to you that post-production equalization and some compression could SOLVE this? No. Because, NONE of you are AUDIO ENGINEERS experienced with the processing power built in to the video editor Sony Vegas for instance ...

    • @ratterrierdogma
      @ratterrierdogma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They couldn’t get lapel mics? Really? Damn.

  • @terencewinters2154
    @terencewinters2154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bk died Hansen lives I sincerely hope that the bureau and agency compensated his family for the duress that may have shortened his life.

  • @martin5940
    @martin5940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing the FBI and CIA were not on speaking terms! How ( by Who) it got to that??

    • @heidimiller642
      @heidimiller642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The agents get public recognition for winning a case. They recieve awards and federal funds when they can prove to the public that they are succeeding. This creates some competition between the two agencies. They have turf wars. There are also laws separating jurisdiction between the agencies. So, depending on which agent takes a personal interest in a particular criminal, they get personally invested in each case. They start taking ownership of the cases. They want to be reimbursed and praised for their labor on a case. Sometimes they get reimbursed for each case, right? They have review process every quarter of the year, right? Do you really think the agents aren't trying to catch a particular person because they know there's money in it? Corrupt agents will torture innocent people if they think their mark doesn't know enough to defend themselves. I can't believe you don't know this stuff.

    • @pridenprejudice2004
      @pridenprejudice2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@heidimiller642 Or more succinctly put ... Egos.

  • @heidimiller642
    @heidimiller642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:04:28 Dr. Charney says it's almost as if each person has their own radio channel. Dr. Charney talks about micro-cultures in family relationships, like different wave-lengths in the relationships. 1:03:00 Rochford can't understand why Hansen's mother could think everything was fine with Hansen's childhood when it wasn't. His mother could not see the deterioration of Hansens ego. I am eternally frustrated with the spy community over this issue. There actually are radio waves unique to each person. It is possible to hack into someone's brain with the right radio technology. I can't believe the U.S. government employees in this video are not aware of this technology. The lack of education on this issue is a security risk for our country. Secondly, guilty parents who don't truly trust in God tend to refuse to acknowledge their guilt when an abused child acts out. Very badly abused children will always display symptoms. They act out. They commit crimes because they have been corrupted. They don't have good boundaries or feel any loyalty to their parents or their country, exactly because those authority figures betrayed their trust. My parents did it in my family. They refuse to admit they did anything wrong. They blame the children. Children should never be blamed. They are bound to make mistakes. That's natural to childhood. Violently beating or humiliating a child is going to corrupt the child. V. M. 24:26 Is it possible that your mistreatment of Mr. Hansen drove him to spy on you? You treated him like an outcast instead of like a friend. Had you included him in your friendship time, he would have been less likely to betray you. He had good ideas. Your security systems were inadequate. He knew it and tried to help you. Why didn't you take him more seriously?

    • @robertthegrape2192
      @robertthegrape2192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ms. Miller you are so right. God bless you!

    • @judyjackson2260
      @judyjackson2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are a ding bat. Hansen endangered our nation and betrayed all Americans and military personnel and intelligence personnel who put their lives on the line every day. He did it for money and ego. Agents were likely tortured and were definately killed due to his betrayal there is no excuse for what he did period.

    • @heidimiller642
      @heidimiller642 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@judyjackson2260 I am glad I upset you.

    • @heidimiller642
      @heidimiller642 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@judyjackson2260 Before the events that you claim happened, Mr. Hansen had pointed out the lack of security in the computer systems to his boss at work at the C.I.A. Robert Hansen tried to do something about this problem. Instead of rewarding him, his boss put him in prison. How can you believe that Hansen caused the torture of agents? The lack of security at the C.I.A. was already doing that.

    • @miztx2syuiip590
      @miztx2syuiip590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many bits for a bot that are registered voters legal illegal immigrants - stimulus checks, tax returns abd wots nots 🤔

  • @TheDavidlloydjones
    @TheDavidlloydjones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The way we assess Snowden is easy: a great patriot who turned in a bunch of serious subversives working to destroy the United States Constitution, one of the great works of the human race so far.

    • @j.b.9581
      @j.b.9581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi David, Look up Christopher Boyce, a near mirror-image of Snowden in thoughts and motives . . but not in execution. THEN, go watch the Falcon and the Snowman. That movie was shown to Christopher and a room full of authorities when the movie first came out. Mr. Boyce attests to the accuracy of "The Falcon and the Snowman." thanks.

  • @Tibs_Budapest
    @Tibs_Budapest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was texting with Eric O’Neill and they don’t even allow him to send his book (Gray Day) into the ADX for Hanssen to read.

  • @Ed-ty1kr
    @Ed-ty1kr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Rochford has the face and posture that you end up with, after a lifetime as a bureaucrat.

    • @dustylefou
      @dustylefou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be might have had a stroke sometime during that career, no need to be a dick.

  • @abathens
    @abathens 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting discussion.

  • @heliosmou
    @heliosmou ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could’ve listened to Dr. Charney longer.

  • @chel3SEY
    @chel3SEY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating.

  • @jamesanonymous2343
    @jamesanonymous2343 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    case closed,,,,,,,, get on with it,,,,,,,7:00 + of introduction, + buy this book,,,,,,,

    • @Bob31415
      @Bob31415 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. See my comment.

  • @gordonjohnston684
    @gordonjohnston684 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why didn’t Aldrich Ames end with Robert Hansen in ADX Florence Colorado? Lock up for 23 hours a day, with an hours exercise in a concrete yard with a mesh ceiling.

  • @georgecavanaugh8757
    @georgecavanaugh8757 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you explain to the HEAD law enforcement official to the left of the podium to use the microphone, AGAIN? Good to know our best and brightest are on the case. CANT HAER YOU WITHOUT YOU USING THE MICROPHONE!

  • @Zebowillisjr
    @Zebowillisjr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just wanna understand why no is ever fired from the alphabet agencies when they fail so epically.

  • @BushyHairedStranger
    @BushyHairedStranger ปีที่แล้ว

    1:31:00,…anyone know who this woman is? or can answer her only question?

  • @CJinsoo
    @CJinsoo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:28, hilarious-blonde in audience stands up to ensure her statement, umm “question” is going to be first-way to block the camera and show off your arrogance. You know, there is a shortage of arrogant and “know-it-all” policy experts in the DC area-she should move to DC.

    • @James_Bowie
      @James_Bowie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1:28:00

    • @jonibarton
      @jonibarton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She doesn’t own a comb either.

    • @miztx2syuiip590
      @miztx2syuiip590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She needs synching - like her creator

  • @les21forever
    @les21forever 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I get a kick out of old whitebeard putting down Hanssen on this video. He's obviously embarrassed having been hoodwinked, bamboozled, deceived, duped, and made a fool of my a young man who had only been an FBI agent for 3 years. What amazes me is Hanssen actually walked into the Russian embassy to offer his services with apparently no fear of being seen.

    • @jrooksable
      @jrooksable 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leslie James: a VERY good observation!

    • @MurrayJoe
      @MurrayJoe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, Robert Hanssen didn't walk into the Russians embassy, he wrote a letter to a diplomat and inside that letter was another letter to the KGB officer in charge of counter intelligence. The Russians didn't even know who Hanssen was nor even who he worked for the CIA, FBI or NSA. As Mike Rochford said, the Russian didn't care, they trusted him because of the information he gave them and he had supplied them with the encryption keys, also Hanssen's information backed up the information Aldrich Ames was giving and vice versa. The KGB told there agents not to go near him or linger around the drop zone, they didn't want upset him or compromise him.

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was 1979. It was a long time ago. Maybe you are seeing things with 2014 eyes on a 1979 event.

  • @stevefranckhauser7901
    @stevefranckhauser7901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The inability to admit a failure of imagination stems from ego. The FBIs ego exceeds it's prowess.

  • @judyjackson2260
    @judyjackson2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think Hansen's wife should have been prosecuted for treason too. She had to be aware from her husband and the news about all these agents being arrested and killed in Moscow and figured out she should come forward. The priest and probably the Catholic church knew also and at the very least should be fined. If they are required to report child abuse, they should also be required to report treason that endangered our nation and caused the death of several agents.

    • @Nickabod79
      @Nickabod79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not only did she get off scott free, she still collects his pension🤯

    • @chrisrosenkreuz23
      @chrisrosenkreuz23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Even shrinks have to report info to authorities when there is possible harm involved. Let alone when they themselves profit from it. I think it was downright criminal what he did, not just as an accomplice.

    • @Kim-Berly200
      @Kim-Berly200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She did what she thought was right. She asked him to stop and to speak to their priest. Unlike Aldrich Ames wife, who became complicit in his spying.

  • @Foggen1231
    @Foggen1231 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Totally agree about Rochford being one of the most boring blokes in the world. If he is symptomatic of the FBI it is so easy to see why it took so long to find Hansesen

    • @Bob31415
      @Bob31415 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good point. He seems very slow.

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you came for entertainment, welcome to the world of the analysis of cold, hard, boring FACTS.

    • @edwardbass1605
      @edwardbass1605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      uploadJ well said.

    • @trissloan2340
      @trissloan2340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a lecture. What do you want, a laser light show or a Broadway musical????

    • @trissloan2340
      @trissloan2340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, I would believe you never had the lowest level security clearance. How would you have the slightest notion about this field of expertise????

  • @Bob31415
    @Bob31415 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Anyone interested in the subject of this video needs to skip the first 7 minutes of it. It is a waste of time with the usual "...I'd like to thank blah blah blah..." by the windbag at the podium.

    • @cahuenga8153
      @cahuenga8153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      right, always same shit, director had no chance at McDonald's

    • @Whatever611
      @Whatever611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least you two pros are here to tell us that

    • @oliviatree
      @oliviatree 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I loved the way they spoke, so no worries for me!

    • @DonWan47
      @DonWan47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guys doing his job.

    • @Bob31415
      @Bob31415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Whatever611 If you like wasting your time with mindless blithering, that's your problem.

  • @dennisweidner288
    @dennisweidner288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who was the blond lady that tried to take over the podium and was ushered out? What was she trying to say?

  • @smo-kie
    @smo-kie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    verrrrrrrry interesting. robert hanssen fascinates me

  • @Ghost_Rider_786
    @Ghost_Rider_786 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The DIRT issue is EASY ..... You dig another hole to put the DIRT in ..... hehehehehehehehe :)

  • @joeblow8593
    @joeblow8593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @crystalglass7106
    @crystalglass7106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If they listened to William Shakespeare, they would've discovered Hansen earlier

    • @robertthegrape2192
      @robertthegrape2192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, fuck! The DoJ and the FBI are a crock of shit anymore!!!

    • @jeraldsamuel5598
      @jeraldsamuel5598 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who's William Shakespeare????

    • @chrismason7066
      @chrismason7066 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jeraldsamuel5598hes some dude who wrote some stuff in England. Idk.

  • @nickjung7394
    @nickjung7394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really interesting, especially in the light of the British spy incidents, Peter Wright's "spycatcher" etc.

    • @DonWan47
      @DonWan47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter Wright was a known fantasist angry at losing some of his lucrative civil service pension.

    • @nickjung7394
      @nickjung7394 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DonWan47 I agree that he was cheesed off about the way he lost out on his pension....which he had earned....but one only has to look at the UK civil service, the BBC, Universities etc to see that the point that he, and others say about anti British, (specifically anti English) people have been elevated in to positions of influence to see that he was correct!

  • @AndrewMaxVaca
    @AndrewMaxVaca หลายเดือนก่อน

    Literally listening on 2x speed and this is still torture. If you’re going to do public speaking as a post retirement career then perhaps learn to speak in public. This is torture. Freaking torture.

  • @bobbowie5334
    @bobbowie5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Puffs of smoke- more like _sonic booms._

  • @alicat4947
    @alicat4947 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    He made numerous confessions to his priest, who should have reported him. I am Catholic.

    • @les21forever
      @les21forever 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not so. That priest was only obligated to report him if he was reasonably sure that Hanssen would commit future misdeeds of such gravity that lives could be lost. .

    • @alicat4947
      @alicat4947 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leslie James
      LoL! It's the spy business Leslie - people die when they are betrayed. Priests need to be more aware of what's going on this world - the days of saying ''we never knew'' are over.

    • @les21forever
      @les21forever 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ***** Yes it is the spy business and anyone who chooses that line of work should know the dangers. The priest doesn't work for the Feds and was following the teachings regarding the sacrament of confession. Btw since we don't live in France no citizen is obligated to provide information to the authorities.

    • @ellethekitten
      @ellethekitten 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Its a philosophical argument that no one can win. Just like lawyers, priests have obligations of confidentiality. There is a reason for that obligation. You can argue that this obligation is absolute and justified or you can argue that they should break the obligation. Either argument is reasonable but its an opinion

    • @vkham9944
      @vkham9944 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** The priest was not working for FBI .. LOL

  • @joachim5080
    @joachim5080 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Update- Hannsen died in prison june 2023

  • @cmonhitme1
    @cmonhitme1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Flat a Venda - R$ 130.000 who is that lady who runs up to the mike - and what was she trying to obtain??

    • @cmonhitme1
      @cmonhitme1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      .at 1hr 30 mins - since I cant eneter the time per above.. geeze!

    • @RaoulThomas007
      @RaoulThomas007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *1:30:50*

    • @miztx2syuiip590
      @miztx2syuiip590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Batteries duh

  • @PosthumousAddress
    @PosthumousAddress 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    @1:30:00 What the hell is up with that woman!!??

    • @smitty19612008
      @smitty19612008 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      LordHealey which Blonde, I'm not sure either one is Sober, those 2 questions were about as convaluded as it gets...

    • @Ed-ty1kr
      @Ed-ty1kr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know right. Classic dumb blond for ya. LOL.

  • @vmatthews9437
    @vmatthews9437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poor audio ! Could've used better micros, taken right out of the vast arsenal of eavesdropping weapons that they had ! ======= Matts'

  • @mishasawangwan6652
    @mishasawangwan6652 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uhhhh what was that ~1:30:00 ...

    • @hwago123
      @hwago123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe she was drunk, or a bit of a loon, or both. It was a tense conversation, maybe it triggered something in her.

  • @James_Bowie
    @James_Bowie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Recommend cranking up the speed to 1.25 for these guys.

    • @MonteD1
      @MonteD1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      1.5 for me. You are more patient than I am.

    • @miztx2syuiip590
      @miztx2syuiip590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Safe to say you all will never be snipers - I mean in a real world sit u a ss down shun

  • @trissloan2340
    @trissloan2340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The widow of Brian Kelly is pissed. You would think, through her husband's line of work; every possible, presumable lead has to be examined. The stakes cannot be higher.
    She said she is an attorney. Is a lecture at a museum the best forum to try a case against the FBI???
    The very first blonde, storming the stage was surreal. I wonder if you have to pass through a metal detector upon entry?

    • @chrisrosenkreuz23
      @chrisrosenkreuz23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      make that a mental detector...
      badum-tsss

  • @DouglasMoran
    @DouglasMoran 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The two panelists are painfully lethargic -- they probably had too much to eat and especially drink before the talk. They often are struggling to remember what they wanted to say.

    • @Bob31415
      @Bob31415 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. Terrible video.

    • @MA-yq4vj
      @MA-yq4vj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are old and not orators too,

    • @waldosgrade
      @waldosgrade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup. Unwatchable

  • @GlobalDrifter1000
    @GlobalDrifter1000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Snowden is an American hero. Manning as well.

  • @RockTurnerSr
    @RockTurnerSr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Justice Department should place similar safeguards for Congress. Swalwell, Ro and others fell into, or targeted by, the Honey Trap.

  • @kathleenberg9168
    @kathleenberg9168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A.I. would help analyze puffs.

  • @rrh2918
    @rrh2918 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny how people at the top are above suspicion.

  • @MonteD1
    @MonteD1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I listened at 1.5 speed, and they all sound normal. At regular speed, they...talk...so...slow.

  • @denisesimpson7385
    @denisesimpson7385 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mr. Rochford could have summed up the "Graysuit" caper much more succinctly!!

    • @trissloan2340
      @trissloan2340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you a speech writer or a motivational speaker?????

  • @wxx3
    @wxx3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's hard to listen to this, knowing the damage that was caused.

  • @bonnies.d.1121
    @bonnies.d.1121 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know if Hanssen continued to go to Mass in prison (and/or for how long)?

    • @bonnies.d.1121
      @bonnies.d.1121 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DonnellOkafor Thanks. I was wondering if he's still "spiritual." Do you have any idea about that?

  • @morningglory8841
    @morningglory8841 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was good 👍

  • @veritas6335
    @veritas6335 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These people aren't very good storytellers. Disjointed, scattered information, hard to follow and not particularly riveting.

  • @simonboland
    @simonboland ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s with the woman at 1:31:09 butting in to ask a question?

  • @alswann2702
    @alswann2702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oooo ... poor little Bob his father belittled him!

  • @toma5153
    @toma5153 ปีที่แล้ว

    The woman at 1:30:00 interrupting. That action is pretty obnoxious, and I think she might (might!) be Medea Benjamin, peripatetic rabble rouser and far left political activist. Check her out in Wikipedia. She is well known to the Fed types and they got her number quickly. It's more important to make a scene than do anything substantive.

  • @cmonhitme1
    @cmonhitme1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @24.50 extremely interesting - re his alienation- digger , etc- he had no friends

  • @FrostedSeagull
    @FrostedSeagull 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These 2 speakers are a cure for insomnia.
    Such a fascinating subject, however, these two turn it into a watching wet paint dry affair.

    • @James_Bowie
      @James_Bowie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My remedy for slow talkers like these guys us to crank up the speed to 1.25

  • @allend2749
    @allend2749 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    u 3 guys are the worst public speakers i have ever heard.

  • @m1garand164
    @m1garand164 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael Rochford is the human form of an auditory induced headache. Jhc. The guy just drones on and on without saying much of anything in a monotone voice talking in slow motion.

  • @irgski
    @irgski ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the fbi should be abolished…period.

  • @donaldasayers
    @donaldasayers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very "Yes Minister" "Was it a bad fire?" "No it was a very good fire."

  • @jvhfilms
    @jvhfilms ปีที่แล้ว

    Brian Kelly’s wife turned heads! Lol 😂 Respect her bravery going in there!

  • @MothaLuva
    @MothaLuva ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if there are guys from the Soviet spy museum in Moscow in the audience, just for the fun of it.

  • @cmonhitme1
    @cmonhitme1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @32.28 - again , more proof that this guy is an ego maniac