Should you BUY or AVOID the Suzuki SV650 in 2023?
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- Should you BUY or AVOID the Suzuki SV650 in 2023?
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I bought a series 1 SV650 brand new in the year 2000. It is still in the family 23 years later and still in daily use. It is still on the same engine and starts first time every time. No smoke or rattles. Tyres and brakes are the only things that has needed replacing in all that time! Imagine buying something today and still using it in 2046!
Try to change and oil with oil filter and air filter... I thing, after 23years riding You must do it! 😁😁😁
*joke 😉
Totally agree with you, I like simple old fashioned bikes without all the electronics aides which in turn will have more things to go wrong.
And Suzuki seems to apply the saying
If it's not broken, don't fix it.
I agree. I want to just get on my bike, start the engine and ride. I don't want to have loads of things to faff about with.
I bought a brand new 2023 SV650 about a month ago, I have ZERO regrets!
I think SV650 can "downgrade" to dial tachometer or some retroer equip to get more retro style, break into old school market and keep this nice V2/frame on the market for this bike.
In my opinion, removing the odd cowl and just closing the back of the dash with a shell or if with the dials you suggest with closed backs similar to the Hornet 900. This bike would stand reeeal different and give out that more japanese look.
Yes, give me an sv650 that competes with the z650rs
They should done it like 2005=2006 Hornet dash...
Sv650x
55 year old new rider, first bike. Bought a black and gold one 3 weeks ago. £6.5k + 3 years free servicing. Absolutely love it. Plenty enough for what I need. Certainly quicker than my Ford focus estate, which, funnily enough I haven't used much in the 3 weeks I've had the bike.
I'm a few years behind you and considering this as my first big bike, the simplicity and fully analogue nature appealing to me. How have you found it so far?
It's really easy to ride as a new rider, so getting confident on it quickly. Handling and power delivery is really predictable, but plenty exciting enough. Did a blast round the Peak District on Sunday and was easily able to keep up with friends on more powerful machines. I put a scorpion end can on it, sounds a lot better and doesn't affect the insurance.
@@Otto-AutoPilot Nothing is fully analog anymore.
I'd say even the gsx-8s won't defeat this bike for a daily driver. Still the best value bike on the market.
I totally agree, I bought this bike for the same reason!!
@@ThomasMcKeon-rw4sm It was better when it had an aluminum frame, but that would make it more expensive these days.
Idk if I’d say the new GSX 8S won’t beat it. In terms of performance and tech, the GSX 8S is better in every way, it’s just a tad heavier then the SV. That being said the SV is still arguably one of the best daily rider bikes. Can put thousands of problem free miles, parts are a dime a dozen, good on gas, more then enough power for the road…
@@MinhVu-in9izhornet 750 alteady beaten it with it's price that motorcycle is like 700$ more for lots more of a bike
@@Jackal9405 motorcycles are not about specs, it’s about how it feels and the fun factor, and at the point, sv650 is proven, while the Honda hornet 750 is not available in America yet!!
Agree, I have owned my 2019 Gen 3 from new, now covered 22000 trouble free miles. Easy to work on and even the valve check at 15k is simple to preform with the advice of the large SV community and tutorials online. Plenty of aftermarket parts, used as daily commuter and weekend fun blasts out. Strap some soft panniers on, or a top box and rack and you have a ample tourer that I have taken all over the country.
I can definitely say in my experience that the thing that makes the SV so good is THAT engine. That 645cc twin is an absolute gem of a motor with character to burn and reliability about as good as it gets. Not to mention quite respectable fuel economy. I've owned both the OG SV650 (in 'S' form) and a Weestrom, and the thing I remember most is that engine and how it made you feel. Sure it doesn't 'scare' you with crazy power etc, but it is perfectly fine on the road, especially if you want to stay legal! It was smooth, predictable, had linear power delivery and eagerly gave you whatever you asked for, whether you wanted to casually cruise relying on low to mid toque, or revving to the red line spanking it silly. It lapped it all up enthusiastically and kept coming back for more. It would have to be one of the motorcycling world's 'great' engines for the 'real' world.
Agreed..I had an 07 and wish i had kept it. Great bike.
Just rode my '23 blue SV today. Anyone that avoids this bike is nuts. Sounds good, stops good, goes good , handles good, looks good. All around great bike. Proud to own one before they're no more.
I had an SV1000 which was a stonking bike with a great engine, but I 've always fancied the 650. It just seems like a "proper" motorbike with no unnecessary electronics and reasonable economy. It looks eminently chuckable and fun to ride. Great video, thanks Dan.
sv1K is a completly different animal than 650.
It is. Possibly the greatest accomplishment in human history.
1200 miles on my '23! Great engine, good sound, rides nice. Seat is miserable! Love that it doesn't look like Megatron.
Your appraisal of this bike today is absolutely spot-on! The SV is as relevant today as it was 25 years ago and will continue to be so for many riders simply because it's such a great bike. It's simple with a well proven engine. Ok, it lacks the tech that some bikers desire. If pushing buttons and twirling thumb-wheels makes one feel special, then look elsewhere. So there's no colourful TFT...aw, shame. I had this exact instrument pod on a GXS-750S and it provided all the information I needed, without fuss.
It has an engine configuration that was once common, ie a v-twin. Now, it's slowly becoming a rarity amongst a sea of parallels. So refreshing. So it has a few flaws but these are minor and can be corrected with the abundance of after-market that's available without affecting the simple brilliance of the design.
Very pleased you like yours.
Good post, Dan. 👍
I remember at the age of 19-20(so, almost 20 years ago now I think about it) I put a disgusting amount of time researching the SV and pouring over the forums ect(think i'd already picked out every single modification i'd planned to do to it in it's lifetime) and then when it came to actually buying my first bike I ended up with a GSXR. I still feel like I owe Suzuki to pick one up eventually!
I own a 2020 non abs. No bells or whistles. The best bike I have ever owned and I own at least 15 bikes in my years of riding. I even own a 2003 Honda 919 (Hornet in euro markets) and I prefer the SV because that engine is like a puppy dog. It’s fun unfiltered.
Nice, I tried the 919 but it was slower than my Hornet 600. Which was odd!
I have owned 5 SV650. 2 were track bikes. It will always be my favorite all around bike. A little suspension upgrade, a better sounding slipon and ride it for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Have you ever tuned them? The tuner I'm speaking with says it's a nice improvement.
100% agree. Parallel twins everywhere and the wee performs better than it’s stats. Loved mine.
Buy. Before you're trapped in a market powered solely by parallel twins.
I'd still happily take the SV650 over the GSX-8S everytime. On-board the 8s is quite nice, but no matter how many times I see it, that front end makes me want to reach for the sick bucket! With the SV, not only do you get a lovely ride, but when you get off and turn back to look, it is a very good looking bike too.
Haha, it's not that bad. But we all have our own tastes.
@@Englishbikerdan it's those headlights! I don't mind them as much on the new V-Strom, as it has the fairing to tame them, but on the GSX-8S, it really let's down what is an otherwise great bike!
This is the training bike for the A-license I'm taking. It's good to have a review like this to gauge against when you haven't ridden any other bike on the market.
I have had 4 of them from 2004 to a 2023 a great bike that engine is so sweet love mine to bits, a bit soft on the springs but you get used to it.
Great review Dan ride safe shiny side up.
Great review 👍 Been doing my DAS training on the SV and even though it’s a little bit cramped in the legs for me it’s a great bike - love the accessible torque. The only thing I think Suzuki should change is the dash - not for a TFT but put a pair of dials on it instead of the LCD. The seat is too sloping forward for me too so the bagster seat would be a must if I had one.
Sounds wicked mate !! 🤙🏻
The last time I rode a SV650, was in 1999, when it was a toss up between it, and the original Hornet 600. On that occasion, the Hornet won. 24 years on, and I really think I should to take another out for a test ride 😎
I've owned two Ducati Monsters and they share so many features with the SV, sounds like a great bike with a very reasonable price tag, and love the looks. Cheers Dan
I passed my test on one of these years ago, My one obviously had all the test centre related dents and wear but I really liked the engine on them.
What a great owner's review. It's basically all you need from an everyday bike. I quite like one I've seen on autotrader in red frame and grey tank and side panels. I'd like to see the engine blacked out but that is an absolute minor mater. For taller riders there's always the V-Strom 650 or 1000.
I have two SVs and love that motor I put a custom exhaust on it and the vtwin came alive 🙂
Thank you Dan, had an sv before may get a new one.
Put a needle speedo/tach combo on it and it would be perfect
Nothing wrong with the SV, Dan. It’s a tried and tested formula, that has stood the test of time. And you bike with the blue trellis frame and wheel accents…beautiful! Ride safe…
Ive just made my license and bought this bike brand new from the dealer. Its ready next week. Hope i wont regret buying it
They're excellent bikes and sooo much fun , I've got a 2000 curvy carbed model that I rebuilt last year (previous owner left it outside for three years) it's now mint again, I love riding it down the twisty lanes and it sounds excellent with its Delkevic end can ! 😁👌, I do like the new 'uns but I'm reluctant to part with mine after all the work I've put in to it and I prefer the old shape and it's quirky speedo and revcounter set up .
Good review anyway Dan 👍
Your spot on about not reading the spec sheet. I've criticised this bike for years until I test rode a VStrom, it's a brilliant bike and I bought it, I love it. The SV is basically the same bike. How wrong was I for years.
Great review. Long live the 1 to 1 throttle connection.
I'm glad you didn't mention the Gladious. 🙂
Good bike. Best looker of the bunch.
Hi English biker Dan, great vid thanks for that because I am thinking about getting one and what yousaixc is helping me to make my mind up weather to get one
Hi Dan, thanks for another great video and perfectly timed as I'm seriously considering getting an SV650 as my first bike. Could you please tell me where you got your seat from, and would you recommend it? Also does it increase the overall height? I'd be looking at swapping the stock seat out pretty quickly as I'm 6ft1 and find it a little bit on the short side. Cheers.
I have an 2006 s model, I absolutely love it, had a ABN / Renthal bar conversion and although the pegs are still a little high and a tiny bit cramped its transformed it for me and the sound it makes with the Beowulf end can is addictive! More than enough power for these awful UK roads, best ridden in the lanes, great fun and very good value.
Hi I'd like to raise my bars a bit but discovered on the SV the clutch cable doesn't have enough length to allow it. Did you replace your clutch cable?
@@tonyjourneyman1944 buy the naked versions clutch cable, should work so I've heard
I bought myself a 2003 fully faired one for when I was due to do my test end of June. It was delayed, after being away from it for a while, battery was
Love my sv650 and i see you got the Bagster seat with the sv logo i got it in the blue strip to go with my frame and matt black tank.last year.
I did my DAS on (i think) the 2020 model of this. Its such an easy bike to ride and gave me loads of confidence through my training. Its it just a totally simple honest motorcycle, no real whistles or bells no over the top styling, what you see is what you get. I guess its only issue now is with Hornet and GSX-8 it does seem a bit pricey for what you get.
A little over 20 years ago I first rode an SV650. At the time I had a Honda 600F4, which was its own kind of fun, but the SV just had that simple joy about it… just tossing it around leaving a neighborhood at the speed limit felt like a special experience. It really makes me happy that this amazing motorcycle is still in production and I look forward to owning one as my second first bike.
Nice job. I have a TLS. Want a smaller bike now.
Love mine. It's the pure essence of motorcycling. Lovely gearbox, clutch, really nimble and comfortable, zero turbulence.....
Just did a euro tour on my 2019. A little over 2k miles in 9 days. Went the Eurotunnel, Ardennes, Baden Baden, black forest, swiss alps, Grimsel, Furka, Gottard passes, down to Como over the Stelvio and back through Austria (more passes) then germany with a stop for a go round the Nurburgring. Everything worked perfectly, it's a fun and easy thing to ride. You have to stop every 1.5 hours or the legs and arse start to hurt, back and wrists never had a problem. Got an indicated 130mph on the autobahn (probably ~125mph real speed), the wind was intense. Only time I wanted more power was at the 'ring but for everyday hooning about and overtakes, it's great. I will say I'm 6' and it does feel a little small, it works but a little more room and height would be welcome. I really got to wring the neck of the thing pretty much everywhere while not going insane speeds and that for me is very enjoyable.
I have a 2001 sv 650 and she is a peach. Easy and affordable to maintain and upgrade. I have no plans of getting rid of her.
Hi Dan, really nice video! I recently replaced my vstrom by one SV and do far I am super happy. I could had bought a Hornet or a Trident... but I went for the more classic looks and simplicity of the SV being sure of its reliability. However, the seat is really bad and I noticed you swapped yours. Is it the Bagster? Will you recommend it?
Yes!! Love it!!
What’s the seat on yours and how do you find it?
I’ve got to Tuck’n’roll on mine and whilst it’s better than stock I still wonder if the others are worth it.
I love my 20 sv Dan , its such a great all round bike and its manufacturing upto this day is a perfect example that we def dont need alot of what manifacturers put on bikes to just sell more. The simplicity of the sv is what makes riding it so enjoyable.
What i would have preferred on it was clock type speedometer rather than digital display.
I think if kept it good condition the sv altho already a classic will become very collectable in years to come.
Fantastic review! There is one common thing for all SV650 reviews on youtube - everyone is happy, smiling, even delighted riding this motorcyle, super confident on it, like there's love between rider and the machine. That speaks a lot about the SV650.
I was wondering, can this motorcycle be compared to Honda CB500F? Just watched your review of that motorcycle and you loved it, but which would you love more, CB500F or SV650?
i have almost 2k on my 2023 sv250 i put a leo vince dual gp on it so far and it rocks as a back road master
Dude, your intro music goes hard.
I have the same colour and love the looks and the handling it makes me smile every time I ride it. I payed £6.250 for mine.
Agree with you on the pointy plastic looks of the modern naked middleweights, personally i prefer the looks of the XSR 700 but looks are entirely subjective. I really like the look of your jacket and i was wondering what it is, appreciate it if you could mention what it is.
I'd like to see Suzuki do a 300/400 SV or a GSX300/400S or even a four cylinder GSXR400. From 125 to the SV650, Suzuki have nothing in between since the 250R drop. The other big three do.
I like my Gladius, yeah some of the colour combos were iffy, but it's been a solid first big bike as a commuter or for leisure for reasonable money.
Love what you have. Never listen to others.
There a brilliant bike mate 👍
Owned an SV650 for seven years, sold it in 2018. Super slick gearbox, good MPG, plenty of lower range power and real easy to work on. Watch out for the front cylinder spark plug getting tight to remove during a service, its normal the front cylinder heats up more than the rear cylinder as the cool air flows over the front and cools the rear, just take it easy when removing and refitting, a tight front one is normal, most V engines are like that. No issues what so ever over the seven years, just keep on top of the service and WASH the salt of the thing in those winter months (they don't like salty roads). There is a TH-cam video of my old SV650 ride compared to my Triumph Speed Triple 1050cc on my TH-cam channel. (I miss that SV650)
Ah, I was waiting for this one !
Still a relevant and absolutely competent bike, we have two early ‘S’ versions in the garage (alloy frames).
Love working on them, spares, upgrades and tuning information are plentiful and good value (they have been raced for years). A good used example makes even more sense.
Why is the Gladius so unpopular ? They form the basis of many a Mini/super twin !
Thanks for watching. I had a SV650S from new back in 2006. When the Gladius came out it was met with much negativity due to the looks. I think people just loved the SV so much even back then, to rebrand it was a crime!
Great video Dan, had to LoL as you honked the (light brown?) Fiat 500 as you were giving your rundown of the switchgear. Then hooned past them shortly thereafter.
Imagined their thought process was "Bloody yotubers!"
😂
Haha I felt like a wally beeping as they went past. Hoping they didn't think I was beeping at them. Oh well. 😂
I love the SV 650!
The Triumph has a fly by wire throttle with a huge delay and no engine character. (I own a Tiger 660 and it is a bit boring)
Everybody and their mom owns a MT07.
The Hornet (like all Honda's) in the NL are way overpriced.
The Z650 is on the smaller side, but probably it's closest competitor.
Absolutely love my SV650, toying with the idea of trading it in for (funnily enough) a tracer 9 GT, part of me wants to keep it and just get a V-Strom 650 as well
Great vid, 53 just past in may so my kind of bike. Is the seat And rear box standard?
I got on 1 today, at 5' 7" , 29" inseam; i didn't feel cramped at all. It's actually the perfect size. Still can't flat foot though.
I'm 5"7 and I flat foot my sfv no problem
@@Adrenalean767possibly different inseam? 5’7”, like any height, doesn’t mean limbs are all the same length…some have longer thigh bones etc, others not even though overall height is the same. I had the same issue when looking this bike. I’m 5’7” and was worried I wouldn’t be able to flat foot it…but then I have a 32in inseam.
Hi Dan, great channel. DO NOT delete your videos :)) We all have been to a rough patch - your channel is one of the other few motorbike channels I always look forward to a new content. Fantastic content !!
Could you please advice on sv650 ? After two years on CBT, I passed my big bike test, and after test riding 8-9 different bikes, I've picked sv650. Absolutely loving it - brilliant bike. But couple of things not sure of - find it a bit difficult in low speed riding - not when you go steady at one given speed, but when you lets say creep behind a car going 1-8mph sort of range, sometimes coming almost to a full stop without stopping and pick the speed again, but still creeping slow - I find the clutch is a bit sensitive. It feels like it operates within a half credit card margins, in other words - it ether wants to fully stop or run away from under you. Not sure if this attributes to Suzuki's low RPM assist feature or not. In my mind it seems when you roll off the throttle and depress the clutch RPM assist kicks in and pulling the bike a bit, sort of doing the opposite of your intention. It might be my inexperience, but certainly can't remember this behaviour on other bikes.
Thanks Ned! Regarding the clutch, I usually slip the clutch at low speed so I don't notice it creeping much. I think it's possibly the low RPM assist kicking in that gives that behaviour.
@@Englishbikerdan Thanks for your swift reply Dan, much appreciated.
I really like the SV650, it might have been around for donkeys years, but still a great bike. I'm trying to work out if it it a route I want to go for my next road bike, as value for money it is bang on... although I would quite like a large cc naked bike.
One a best bugdet bike ever!!! Excellent for beginners and pros 👍 I saw you change the seat, is it a Bagster!?
Yeah Bagster seat. So much better!
Good video! Can I ask u where to order that saddle? It looks awesome!
Thanks, Louis Moto but got stung with a hefty import tax.
I have the VStrom with the same engine and it’s plenty good!
I owned a SV650S. It was great, loved it. When my bike was knocked over (4th time), I was given a SV1000 to ride in the meantime. THAT was a great bike. Please, Suzuki, make them again at a similar price. Apart from the enormous heat given off by the engine in traffic, it was, for me, the perfect bike. A half price Ducati with no drawbacks - like insane servicing costs.
The sv650 has a really weird magic trick up its sleeve. As a new(ish) rider it convinces you that you want, maybe even NEED more power, but then once you're a few years down the line you realise the SV is just in the sweet spot where you can have fun but still use all of the performance and you find yourself coming back to one. I haven't had an SV for about 10 years, I haven't had anything less than 1000cc since I sold mine and now, at 32 years old I'm coming back.
I'm came back to the SV this year after a 13 year break. Second hand 2016 model with only 13.5k miles on the clock. Scorpian Serket slip on (can't decide if the baffle is better in or out). Love the low rpm assist and the updated dash. Feels even better than gen 1 and 2 if that was even possible
Perfect for UK roads. Best all rounder there is.
The super p-twins are all arguably better bikes.... but you really can't go wrong with an SV if you get a deal on it. It works and with an exhaust system sounds amazing.
Any chance you could do a video with your mic and helmet cam setup, i can get decent footage but audio is a complete nightmare ive tried so many other setups but still get mad breathing sound or wind :(
also sv rocks, might be a bit beige and boring compared to the new parallel twins that have arrived but I still love it and the engine is as reliable as they come
Great! True …@10.28mins… spec sheet can’t tell how yah feel!! ❤
I'll keep saying it. Thanks for watching!
It’s a great classic. A keeper
I'm about the purchase a new 2023 sv650 but wish it came with more color options in Australia. Black and gold is fine, but the black and blue or even the black, white and red looks nicer.
G, day that's my favourite all time motorbike can't go wrong with the SV 650
I was going to buy a hornet for my returning bike,but your sv has come across as very appealing,on another note where is the aftermarket seat from.
Great videos as always. It would be interesting if you could get your leg over the z650 rs and see if it shares the same character and non intrusive tech :)
Sadly Kawasaki are not available to me yet.
The Z650 RS has nowhere near the character of the SV650. That P-twin engine is the main letdown. Ride both. You will see.
The love cycle for a potential buyer is a complicated one. How ever they get on 2 wheels they are welcome in my book.
My 06 does not look 17 years older! Iconic bike
Hi Dan, enjoyed the video, where did you get the Bagster seat from? Thanks.
Thanks, I bought from Louismoto but got a hefty import tax bill.
Thanks Dan. 2 mins, 20 secs in FYI there's stuff online stating the SV650 uses the engine as a stressed member. The £500 off and first three services for free offer was on bikes in stock ordered and registered in June. The colours in stock in early May were the Iron Grey, gloss primer tank and frame with red wheels or the metallic blue with gold frame and wheels. What headlamp bulb did you upgrade to and is it wired through a relay?
May I ask what seat you’ve got on the Suzi pal?!…doesn’t look like the standard seat….looks great!( a tad comfier?!)…😎👍
I have that bike on a 21 plate.
Done 10,000 miles on it.
It is a great bike.
Bagster seat is a must.
However, I moved over to a street triple.
That's a decent upgrade! Enjoy. 👍
Buy it….it is an amazing bike.
No Regrets
Thinking of downsizing to one of these from the r 1200 gs something a bit lighter not sure about pillion comfort though
I’ve put my deposit down on a black/gold one in Aus. On special here for $10,990 until the end of the year which makes it the best bang for buck bike on the market in my opinion. Can’t wait to pick it up and I’ve been riding since 1975
That would have been my choice of colour had it been available last year. Good choice!
Hi Dan where did you get that seat from ?,I know the standard one kills after 1 hour in the saddle keep up the good work 👍
Louis Moto, but be prepared to pay import tax.
Loved my SV650S , make a great first big bike as that power delivery is so reliable and smooth. Dan does it still need a service every 3000 miles still in 2023?
I've kept my SV1000 for over 18 years for the reasons you've alluded to the 650. I like the cable throttle too and have done the usual mods, remap, new cans, air filter, straight bars and a rear jackup kit with the shock resprung for my weight. 120 crank BHP is plenty and the annual insurance is only £55 TPFT. A 200 BHP road rocket would likely cost a small fortune, both to insure and service. Such bikes are mostly for dick swinging bragging rights.
Allmost for the same reasons I kept my dl1000 2002 model 93 horses on the wheel forth gear goes up to 200 why bother with other bike. Never touched the motor. 😊
I've been riding 7 years, and use this as my main transport in Australia. Perfect bike, and although everyone says it's good for beginners, I think you can grow into it as well
”Good for beginners” ususally means ‘good for everyone but I’m a bit of a snob’. Seriously. A great bike is a great bike that won’t cause a fuss. Most of the machines out there are more than most will ever be able to master but we like to spend money instead of actually developing skills. Ride your SV and enjoy it, I’ll be right behind on my old Tracer.
I would yes it is and will be for a long time and that would make a good second bike for someone who is on a budget
There should be more bikes like the SV650, newly made, thoroughly developed/engineered and produced in a simple old fashioned way.
It's a simple bike, nothing too complicated, no electronics that you don't need. I just love that!
I'm used to older bikes that are more analogue, but I wanted something that's new and developed, so my 2020 SV650 is the best bike and the 4th bike for me (so far) and I don't think I'll sell it any time soon.
The looks are simple and timeless as well. None of those angry insect looks that most new bikes look like.
It surprises me that Suzuki haven't made a 'modern retro' version with spoked wheels & different clocks,there's a big market for that style,look at Triumph & Enfield.
I bought a Gen 2 'S' version as a cheap hack 16 months ago & it's been one of my better purchasing decisions.The bike's great fun on the country lanes,so much so that it's become my 'Go To' bike.The new parallel twins with their 'Transformer' looks & more electronics just don't do it for me
You forgot to mention the seat! Talking about seats, where did you get your one from, I'd love a seat like that?
Definitely a buy. Just test rode one.
Hi Dan thinking of chopping in my t120 for an sv650, as they are much lighter and more flickeble, due my age find the t120 heavy to man handle and about the same power!
i still have my 2002 , fantastic
It's kinda heavy ?
Thanks
Thank you! 😊