12:09 finally gives a good look at his serve. He seems to get them a lot with a mimicking choping motion when it must be dead. Thus they push it long. Also with his very next serve he seems to show or make you think he will either serve with the short pips or long pips side. Wish they gave better looks at this.
u can't attack those types of players. must incorporate flat and heavy under spin and flat ball attack. they love playing loopers. long pips will eat your loops for breakfast :)
The umpires are obviously not qualified umpires, as there's multiple issues with serves by the guy in red. He does not have the ball on the palm of the hand before throw up. He has the ball in his hand face down when he throws up. The throw is over and not behind the base line (over the table)
I am confused with these people in the comments. Illegal pimples? This video looks like it was from way back in the 90s hence those could still be legal at that time. Illegal serve? The rules were different back then, and quite frankly nowadays even zjk and ma long's serves have questionable serves for the current rules.
Huang è stato un grande giocatore negli anni 50 - 60 ed a giocato nella nazionale Cinese in due mondiali ottenendo la medaglia di bronzo nel doppio misto. Nel video sembra che suoi rivali non sappiano giocare con giocatori con puntini lunghi, ma Huang era un maestro utilizzando le puntinate.
What exactly isn't legal? Wiping the ball on the front of his trousers? ;) It's certainly not his bat, we don't get a close look at it, and I don't see any hidden serves, either. Excellent bat flipper.
This is awful to watch. Just as they strike the ball on service, they switch cameras. The easiest way to be a long pips player, is to use a hard rubber bat (short pips no sponge)
There are some in here where the ball goes below the table and some where it doesn't start from an open palm, though - the crowd look bored rigid - this is what they do to our beautiful game !
legal or not, you can clearly see not much of hardwork is needed when you can just stick a LP on one side of bat. Boring game with no appeal to the crowd. Sports isnt just about winning.
***** I too was a penhold, I felt lack of power in my back hand would you believe in late 80's I experimented on putting a rubber on my backhand side they all laughed at me for using back hand on penhold.
Doesn't matter what I say about him, and doesn't matter if I'm better than him. The truth is he will not be permitted to join competitive tournaments due to his serve and his rubber. And just so you know I trained with former professionals since I was a kid and I try to play as fair in games as possible. And let me ask any player that somewhat knows what they are doing and they'll all tell you how much they hate long pimps, which has been banned from large events such as WTTC and the Olympics since the 90's.
Wow.. that's news. Long pips "banned since the 90s"? Look on the ITTF list of approved rubber, there's dozens of long pips available. Lots of people play with long pips in international tournaments. Joo Se Hyuk plays with long pips. Now, certain TYPES of long pips aren't on the list - those are "illegal". But that's a different story.
Learn the facts mate. None inverted rubbers are allowed such as ones Liu guoliang and Wang Tao used to use. But the length of the pimps is restricted. They can't be longer than a certain length, and by the returns of this guy's opponent you can clearly see it's longer than the allowed length.
shingoukiex*Sigh* You should get into an argument with s-jan. Yes, the length of pips is restricted, the pips aspect ratio is restricted, and most recently, there is a minimum amount of friction specified. AND you aren't allowed to alter the rubber after it leaves the factory. But the term "long pips" applies to many, many brands of rubber that fall within these limits and ARE legal, and ARE listed as "approved" by ITTF. Whether this guy uses one of these or something truly illegal, I don't know. I don't think you can tell by just watching him play. If he's using unaltered Dawei 388D-1, that is legal. If he's soaking them in something then it's not. I sense some sort of antipathy towards long pips blockers on your part. Maybe you just hate playing against them because you haven't figured out how to beat them?
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Wang Jian Jiang, is one of the best amateur long pips players in China.
His nick name is 東邪, meaning "Evil of the East".
12:09 finally gives a good look at his serve. He seems to get them a lot with a mimicking choping motion when it must be dead. Thus they push it long. Also with his very next serve he seems to show or make you think he will either serve with the short pips or long pips side. Wish they gave better looks at this.
if you're interested, in the beginning the commentators do mention that he has over 20 different variations of serves at least.
yes it is right, a friend of mine who used to play with him, told me that he is no very good player, but his serves are completly amazing
u can't attack those types of players. must incorporate flat and heavy under spin and flat ball attack. they love playing loopers. long pips will eat your loops for breakfast :)
The old man is easily over 60 and he is pretty much a self taught player. A bunch of keyboard warriors don't get the point.
looks like DHS Cloud and Fog 3 which is perfectly legal...
The umpires are obviously not qualified umpires, as there's multiple issues with serves by the guy in red.
He does not have the ball on the palm of the hand before throw up.
He has the ball in his hand face down when he throws up.
The throw is over and not behind the base line (over the table)
damn, you're right; they might as well call this badminton.
wich league is this ?
He uses a non-ITTF long pips.... that helps a lot even though he is quite a lp player.
this guy's too good
Service rules don’t apply ?
What a man!
What is his name?
Что за шипы???
Long pimps, short rallies, foul serves . . . . that'll bring the crowds in !
correct, nowadays the sport halls are empty
good
So in China it is ok to play with a special version of 388D-1 0X??
Geddk it doesn’t matter for those who knows how to play against Long pimps.
I am confused with these people in the comments. Illegal pimples? This video looks like it was from way back in the 90s hence those could still be legal at that time. Illegal serve? The rules were different back then, and quite frankly nowadays even zjk and ma long's serves have questionable serves for the current rules.
he is very skilled for amateur level, nice video
Wow nicer
jeje .... little babys crying always playing against long pins !!! jajaja
Anh ta chơi 2 mặt gai gì vậy? Có ai biết được không ạ
His first name is Huang,not Wang.
I share their frustration just by watching
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Huang è stato un grande giocatore negli anni 50 - 60 ed a giocato nella nazionale Cinese in due mondiali ottenendo la medaglia di bronzo nel doppio misto. Nel video sembra che suoi rivali non sappiano giocare con giocatori con puntini lunghi, ma Huang era un maestro utilizzando le puntinate.
looks like friccy pips, slick friccy pips...he really quashing the flow man😖
nhìn thế thôi. tuyển vn gặp mấy bác này rụng hết đấy
His name seems to be "Huang J.J.".
Luyện tập cơ bản và luyện tập phản xạ phối hợp đã giúp ô già bụng to nhưng rất nhanh nhẹn , không phạm nhiều lỗi đáng tiếc. Tuổi già như vậy là tuyệt đấy.
老黄推挡厉害，正手位貌似不行，功他正手应该可以赢的
What exactly isn't legal? Wiping the ball on the front of his trousers? ;) It's certainly not his bat, we don't get a close look at it, and I don't see any hidden serves, either. Excellent bat flipper.
It's his long pimp rubber that's illegal
shingoukiex 388D-1 is legal. Why is his illegal?
老黄的长胶皮是油泡的 正规比赛是禁用 用阴招赢球 不地道
至高无上港督 会打长胶的压根不在乎这点。不会打长胶的拿什么长胶你也赢不了。
@@dadidadida123 這話我不同意,如果是禁用的長膠,以台灣而言,一般業餘好手卻實也很難贏,及使是國手也未必一定贏(當然國手多交手幾次會贏,初次交手未必能贏)
陳球球 鬼扯你的蛋吧。违规长胶能涨2分球不得了啦。不服的自己买块去试试。
@@dadidadida123 說話別那麼難聽,任何技術都看程度,很厲害的高手吧!當然比較不怕長膠,但你看馬琳還有的莊智淵不是也輸給朱世赫的長膠嗎?難道至高无上港督 会打长胶的可以輕鬆擊敗朱世赫嗎?
This is awful to watch.
Just as they strike the ball on service, they switch cameras.
The easiest way to be a long pips player, is to use a hard rubber bat (short pips no sponge)
Can some tell me how he is a long pimple legend
Famous for using illegal long pimple rubber. Be nothing without the rubber.
+Allen Liu what is the rubber and why is it banned? To much spin?
Dawei 955 long pips
His serve is illegal. Does not throw the ball high enough.
Evgeny Shumilin It goes way over the net's height.
d-__-b Ah, really not as low as I firstly thought.
There are some in here where the ball goes below the table and some where it doesn't start from an open palm, though - the crowd look bored rigid - this is what they do to our beautiful game !
His opponent is not complaining, why you complain about it? In his age Table Tennis serve only need to throw 5cm above hand. You are too young.
His opponents are not good at all, they look like they've never played against long pimples before!
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legal or not, you can clearly see not much of hardwork is needed when you can just stick a LP on one side of bat. Boring game with no appeal to the crowd. Sports isnt just about winning.
Penhold reminds me of Kung Fu, exotic but not practical like Western shake hold.
+VoiD Totally explains Ma Long doesn't it.
I only say one thing: Xu Xin, World Nr. 3
***** I too was a penhold, I felt lack of power in my back hand would you believe in late 80's I experimented on putting a rubber on my backhand side they all laughed at me for using back hand on penhold.
+VoiD I suggest you to practice rpb :) I am a penholder, too.
***** I already changed to handshake. Its been too painful for my fingers.
Smells like illegal long pimples....
膠皮不合格
Players like him who lack professionally trained skills will rely on cheap rubber that's banned from competitive play.
长胶真没意思
Zhanhui Qi 对啊，好像一用长胶就没得打了
pimpled bats should be banned
Worst player ever. Illegal serves all over the place. Not to mention illegal rubber.
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Doesn't matter what I say about him, and doesn't matter if I'm better than him. The truth is he will not be permitted to join competitive tournaments due to his serve and his rubber.
And just so you know I trained with former professionals since I was a kid and I try to play as fair in games as possible. And let me ask any player that somewhat knows what they are doing and they'll all tell you how much they hate long pimps, which has been banned from large events such as WTTC and the Olympics since the 90's.
Wow.. that's news. Long pips "banned since the 90s"? Look on the ITTF list of approved rubber, there's dozens of long pips available. Lots of people play with long pips in international tournaments. Joo Se Hyuk plays with long pips. Now, certain TYPES of long pips aren't on the list - those are "illegal". But that's a different story.
Learn the facts mate. None inverted rubbers are allowed such as ones Liu guoliang and Wang Tao used to use. But the length of the pimps is restricted. They can't be longer than a certain length, and by the returns of this guy's opponent you can clearly see it's longer than the allowed length.
shingoukiex*Sigh* You should get into an argument with s-jan. Yes, the length of pips is restricted, the pips aspect ratio is restricted, and most recently, there is a minimum amount of friction specified. AND you aren't allowed to alter the rubber after it leaves the factory. But the term "long pips" applies to many, many brands of rubber that fall within these limits and ARE legal, and ARE listed as "approved" by ITTF. Whether this guy uses one of these or something truly illegal, I don't know. I don't think you can tell by just watching him play. If he's using unaltered Dawei 388D-1, that is legal. If he's soaking them in something then it's not.
I sense some sort of antipathy towards long pips blockers on your part. Maybe you just hate playing against them because you haven't figured out how to beat them?
We'll if u played more pingpong then u would know.
iskandartaib well said!