The disappointing thing is he didn't turn himself in. That his family tried calling the group and try to keep them from reporting the information. I do hope we never see him at an cons, Brony, Furry, or Comic. That he lives the rest of his life having to tell this story every time HR department conducts a background check on him.
And I really hate it when critics say "But you guys heard the stories of what he was doing! Why didn't you act until the sex rp!?" Uh because you can't just walk into a police station and point fingers at a guy and say "This guy is a molester!" without any proof. If you do that the police are either going to dismiss your case or say they'll work on it but not really do anything. I know our primal instinct is to do something immediately but that doesn't work. Look people we are not cops. We are not lawyers or detectives. Whatever happens to Zak is up to the court and jury.
I also hate it that many are throwing hate at people such as Josh when they tried to resolve the issue before the unexpected leak happened. They were trying to solve the situation in a professional way before anything happened to be public.
Sadly sometimes the opposite is true and the law will get the accused with little to no evidence and a innocent person will lose everything, thus they probably wanted to make sure they were 110% right about all this because the price of accusing someone of something like this is staggering even if there then almost - or outright - immediately proven innocent because this kind of thing stay's around forever guilty or not, and if it was someone you loved with all your heart being accused of this wouldn't you want to be absolutely sure before you in essence ended there life forever?
All because you are personally close with your friend, doesn't mean you know everything about him, nor do you know it was happening before the news come out.
This is one of those times I think you really live up to your screen name, Voice. It's really nice to finally hear an account that is proper fact and discussion based. Every video I go to seems mostly centered around pain, anger, sadness and/or revenge. This leads to a lot of really disturbing results in the comment section. It's been needlessly stressful. Also it was nice to see Keychi involved. I've always seen her as an in between person, someone both a part and not a part of the review community. She has a unique perspective and a puts her in a good position to call out bull hockey when she sees it. The fact that she was fooled by Toon is a HUGE revelation to just how convincing his act was. If I could ask, Has anyone heard from Finn? I'm really worried about him.
Dear VoiceOfReason Keep up the good work, sir. A lot of what I feel about this whole thing can be summed up with a comment I left on Dr. Wolf's video on this matter. All I have left to say is keep on the good path. Keep moving forward.
I know this is 5 years late and I’m not in the Brony fandom but I support this fandom and feel sorry for the ones that have to go through Toons behavior, lies, and manipulations. I also feel sorry for the girl in the Philippines who had to be the victim of the disgusting man. All of you did the right thing. I heard about this issue when I was in Junior year of High School and I didn’t understand what did he do or what was “Pedophilia” until a few years later, I finally understood and felt bad that I didn’t understood earlier. I can relate to this issue as I had a friend who turned out to be like Toon and was angry and upset of his behavior and lies after my friends and I tried to help him through self-harming. I don’t associate anyone who’s a pedophile. I strongly encourage anyone to not only disassociate one, but help spread awareness for something like this. Again, I apologize for being 5 years late, but I want to say I’m sorry that you lot had go through his lies and finding out the hard and miserable truth. I’m very disappointed at Toon’s behavior as I supported him associated with Thomas the Tank Engine. It’s safe to say I don’t anymore. I felt bad for also listening to the leak video chat as I was curious as how it went down. I didn’t bought any of Toon’s excuses. I’m glad to see everyone has moved on from this issue, hope everyone is doing well as of right now, I pray that nothing like this will ever happen again in the Brony Community, and we can safely say that a lesson has been learned.
I am so proud of you guys! I have never seen a community of analyst for a show become such good friends, and DON'T GET INTO BULL CRAP AND BREAK THE RULES!!!! You guys KNOW where the BORDERLINE IS!!!! You guys have your fun but on in a stupid "hey lets break the law" way!!! I apperciate you guys!! Thank you so much for being so determined to do what is right. and trying to really do what is best.
I speak for the victim cause im also a filipino and am offended by what toon said that "this can ruin my reputation" I amplude by his behavoir i have been manipulated myself by other people i may have not told anyone but i stood my ground and now im still very cautious of my acts i am a fellow roleplayer yet i roleplay with people my age BUT NO MORE CHATTER I WISH TOON GETS WHAT DESERVES im sorry my fellow bronies i have respect with all of u toon need therapy i study psychology and he needs it i hope for the best for him despite my anger being inragged by his acts
I have a confession to make. I've listened to the skype call with Toon. Multiple times, in fact. While there were times that I felt so very numb, due to how cold, calm and disconnected Toon was, there were times I ended up enjoying seeing the others, specifically British Ninja and Irish John, and sometimes Josh Scorcher, verbally nailing him to the wall. But, that being said, I, personally, am glad I wasn't in that call. Ignoring the fact that I didn't know Toon, I'm just putting myself in the shoes of someone that may have, who was betrayed by him...I wouldn't be anywhere near as professional. And I hate that. I don't think there would have been any way I could have kept my cool, as betrayal is one of the very few things that enrage me. I guess what I'm really trying to say with this is that I have a ton of respect for British Ninja and Irish John for how they composed themselves.
Toon is a classic textbook narcissist. This is how they roll. I'm sorry you guys learned this lesson the hard way. Now you know though what to look out for and have hopefully been digging into the behavior warning signs. You can step it up and help protect the community by pointing out these harmful behaviors and red flags. And you can help protect the community from future predators. The MLP fandom is unfortunately a ripe target for people like Toon. You know better now. Do better now. To the victims - I've been in your shoes. It's okay to demand your space so that you have time to heal. It's okay to be mad. You got this. And when you're ready, you can teach too what to look out for.
But to be honest, they dealt with one predator in a fandom directed to young children. What happened here would make a lot other communities constantly looking over their shoulders as if they were being watched. Like the old myth about a hydra. Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
Thank you for making this. He hurt a few of friends he of mine ( they were also his friends.. sadly ). And the fact that he did this.. And hurt not only the girl but our mutual friends with it.. Sickens me. Luckily I never even talked to him.. Nor was that big a fan.. So I wasn't hurt as much as my friends.. *sigh*
I was at school when I heard about this. I was going through youtube on my phone during lunch when I saw a couple of videos surrounding the topic by Mad munchkin, SEGAsister, and Lighting Bliss. When I watched the videos I was in total dismay and I felt bad for everyone that was really close too him and hearing rumors that he was trying to come back with a new OC that was when I completely got mad because even a drunk who had done something they actually regret doing would know that's a bad idea because you can't come back from something like that, everyone in the analysis community knows that the good impacts that he had is gone within a finger snap. I'm sorry if I'm ranting about it but it's something that I had to get off my chest and I hope everyone within the community recovers.
Well in my state it's illegal if there is more than a two-year difference as long as parents are aware and consent. For example, a 16 and 18-year-old can date and a 17 and 19 or a 17 and 18-year-old. Which for the final case I don't view as bad. However, most don't do it. I've known one guy who dated a girl a year older but they broke up before she graduated hs.
I watched the Skype call with Toon, I did notice how he wasn't upset until he was told that they were cutting him out of their lives. He kept saying he wanted to do it "his way" which I assume is running and hiding. I part of me can't wait to see him caught, but another part is worried what will happen to to the fan base as a whole.
I wish I found this video sooner. It really clears some stuff up. What annoy's me most is the attack on other members of the community like DRWolf. Before I watched this I watched some videos spitefully saying harmful things to these content creators like how they waited so long to turn him in, or forgetting all about the victims. To me it is all just drama for the sake of drama, and that is what distracts from the real issue. What Toon did was terrible, and there are victims. Adding to the drama just distracts from that, and divides the community making it worse.
Sadly, I'm not surprised. Many bronalysists have used storylines in their reviews or things like the sessions with Dr. Wolf to share personal struggles and how they are trying to change like Golden fox and his girlfriend, Dr. Wolf, or Blissy, and I could tell it was genuine. But his always seemed...fake.. I didn't see remorse...I didn't see tears...I didn't see genuine emotions. It just seemed like an excuse to redo his OC.... I'm saddened and I'm praying for all of you.
Thank you guys. It's good to hear what happened from those who where there, without colored opinions and half truths from the second hand sources. Prayers for everyone involved, you did well.
I am quite happy that you did this video. I didn't know what was happening, why this happen. Heck, I didn't know this was a thing until two days ago when the Pizza Party Podcast mentioned this. Even then the few videos I saw of this didn't go into much about this. Shame that this happened. This will unfortunately hurt the brony community, as this will most likely be used as "evidence" to prove all bronies are perverts.
Repost after watching this. It feels very Bill Cosbyish in the sense that we loved the guy from the Cosby show and children say the darndest things and didn't want to believe this happened. But it did, and now we have to figure out how to move forward.
Thank you for talking about the situation, I know it is a difficult and worrying time but you answered honestly and has shown responsibility, I know Toon was your friend but you honestly did the correct thing and hopefully Zak gets the help he desperately needs. The fandom supports the victim and you and the fandom will go on to do bigger and brighter things ^^
The scariest part of this is that, in his state, *sexting* with a minor isn’t illegal. I don’t know how this is even possible. This should be punishable by law.
I hope that poor girl gets the help she needs. I hope she recovers from this and gets some semblance of peace. I also hope the brony community can also recover from this and not only more on but move forward. Its very easy to be coned by a master manipulator, I've been in a situation myself and its pretty damn easy to fall into that trap. I hope you find peace, I really do
wolf2966 she's a young child, its fun to do naughty things at that age, also she was depressed, something toon took advantage of being a pretty good manipulator, if you read some of the posts you would see her growing discomfort with it as he prodded harder and harder. And tell me since when does a young girl with little understanding of the situation have the life experience to actually consent to something like this? Just because she was Ok with it at first makes it alright for an adult to tale full advantage of her? Explain to me how what he did to her was Ok in any since in a well worded, well backed response with plenty of facts and reasons for it and I will take back what I said. To me toon is nothing more then a predator who belongs in prison and that young girl a victim of both a predator, her own lack of life experience and lack of knowledge as how to better protect herself on the internet.
sparkplug T first off I hate it when people use oh she has depression so she must be a victim I don’t buy it I know people with depression but they have common sense I hate that it’s because they were depressed excuse depression is curable you just have to want to get rid of it next a young child is 5-12 years old not 13-17 you have more common sense you should know better he didn’t manipulate her she got into it just as fast as he brought it up also look at the amount of time on the side of the messages 1-2 minutes in response if someone would to hesitate it would be a lot longer second he claims to her what they were doing was wrong and she even said herself she was ok with it please go read the messages to is not the only verdict and this girl could’ve broken her silence the day he brought it up so why didn’t she fear? I call bull with that at 14 and 15 years old your taught about this sort of thing in the fight grade I’ve heard of children having more common sense than what this girl had or she just didn’t care which also doesn’t make her a victim I also didn’t see any signs of discomfort on her side Just toon cause he knew what he was doing was wrong she just didn’t care because if it’s online especially theirs not really a lot you can do to manipulate someone unless you are truly that weak of a person in which case you need help just as much and hopefully she actually gets it now
wolf2966 she has severe depression, at that age I'm pretty sure your guards a little down already also you don't have to be a weak minded simpleton to be taken by a con artist. Its pretty easy to be fooled when the manipulator is a really good one. So tell me, how does that make it Ok? No matter how you spin it, toon took advantage of a young girl, if you read her later response you can see she was fooled by him. What's more does it make it any less wrong? Frankly I think your focusing on the wrong thing here. An older man contacted a young girl with the end goal of sex. He was very good at stringing her along and keeping her in line. How is he in any way innocent here? As far as I'm concerned he's a pedophile. He took advantage of a young girl and luckily it was stopped before it went to far. And believe it or not a young child doesn't quite have the reasoning of an adult.
sparkplug T I’m not saying he isn’t he shouldn’t have brought it up to begin with she however was not manipulated cause their was no grooming in order to groom you have to do things in small pieces he came out with it full blown and she had no problem saying yes she’s not a victim just someone who didn’t care about consequences cause he even said it was wrong and she said she didn’t care so why is all the blame going on toon when some of this is on her as well she could’ve came forward sooner why didn’t she just because she had depression does not mean she doesn’t know the difference between right and wrong no one in this innocent both acted stupid she’s obviously smart enough to know about sexual acts for one your going to tell me she had no idea what was happening was wrong and the way she was talking to toon she has no innocence I’ve heard stuff like that come out of the mouths of adults
I used to love most of that MLP analysis community but some of them have done horrible things I thought critic was a good person but now I know the truth thank you voicing this problem
This has cleared up alot of my questions. The only thing i still dont get is why some of his victims like his ex or patchwork was shut down and not listen too. I get he was manipulating everyone but still. It makes me worry.
I'm sorry about my post before regarding my thoughts on ToonKritic and the Phantom of the Opera. I was listening to it when I found out about what had happened and an image of the Masquerade ball popped in my head. I never ment any harm or to rub salt in the wounds he's already opened.
This kind of hurts to hear, since I always kind of liked Toon, but this needs to be done. You should have no blame in taking time to report him, you did all that you could.
I to a break from the show right before this got leaked, so when I came back(6 months later) to a hell storm of a problem. I really wish that the more people would go to these people first then make their videos.
Is there going to be any kind of info released when he is arrested and is sentenced? I'm betting I'm overstepping myself here but one thing that I think would help everyone keep moving forward is know something is being done. I also know this could restart up a crazy witch hunt thing and I don't want that, so if that's the case I entirely understand.
You know there is Only 1 thing i will miss with ToonKriticY2K & that is his Roundtable is Magic videos. It is a BIG shame that i can't go back now and watch them, they allways brought great joy to my heart to watch them. I understand that they are no longer available to be watched anymore, my 1 wish is that all RiM videos is going to be restored & reuploaded maybe not now but sometime in the future, i understand that you all may not like that, but for me they are not just videos but memories of funnier times gone bye, i hope you understand my point of view.
The last time I heard anything Massacre Mollie deleted her video that she made about Toon when everything happened and she went back to Toon I'm not sure if she's still associated with Toon in the present day
considering that Toon has been constantly avoiding the authorities for years, he can't keep this up forever, he's gonna get caught and arrested eventually, ya know?
@@RedactorYT nope he's not, that coward continues avoiding the authorities to this day, trying to claim innocence or whatever, but like I said, he can't keep doing this forever.
I want you guys too know as an honest yet modest fan I understand what it's like too have been duped by guys like him. I've been duped (mercifully not a victim, another matter) by guys just like that who are cunning megalomaniac sociopaths, they are at a glance all he was until all is exposed. I wish you all the best and hope things can move on in time. As for him, it's now a matter for the courts. 2018 is still young, hopefully the rest of it will be more positive! But keep a file of your videos.
I'm not not close with toon but this has frustrated and upset with him.this is going to not only fracture the community and mess up the life of the victims. I being a victim of sexual assault/harassment can relate to the victim.im a newish member of the community just starting out most of my videos right now are song covers but for sure this coming season of my little pony I'll start reviewing the show but now I questioning if I should but I su I'm a part of the community because I watch the show. I'll be praying for you guys and the whole community and also especially toon. Thanks for bringing this to light
hello there. i was unfortunately fooled by zak kayes back in 2021 up until july of this year. today i just learned of his past on this platform, and i am absolutely sick to my stomach. no minors have been harmed or talked to to my knowledge since i've known him, but he has harassed me and other friends that he has made over the few years, and i even caught him trying to invite a pedophile from the sonic community into our friend group at one point, and i still fucking gave him the benefit of the doubt afterwards that his intentions were good and gave him the benefit of the doubt that he just "didn't know." we are all spreading awareness about him on twitter currently, and seeing all of this shit about him on youtube has encouraged us to all speak up on him, to get him off of the internet once and for all. i wish i had known about all of this sooner, or else i never would have associated with this man to begin with. thank you for speaking out so long ago when you did, as these callouts are still helping today.
Yo! Voice, been a while since I found myself watching one of your vids... Hell of a time for me to look your name up, and this video... I just wanted to say that I was never close to TK, my heart and support goes out to all those affected by this catastrophe, and as much as I do not like her at all... Lily Peet does make several good points in her response to the incident, No matter how misinformed. There are things that do need fixing in this fandom, and I am sure we all can come together to achieve it. Thank you for hearing me out, and godspeed.
If I’m not mistaken, don’t countries with lower ages of consent tend to deal in brackets of age when it comes to that? Like between two 14-17 is ok but a 14 year old and a 25 year old isn’t.
I think you guys need to hear this. There is no "the only thing you can do". There is nothing to learn from this. There is no "what now". Don't bother forgiving him. He will use it against you. Things like Toon always do that, without exception. That kind of thing will use its charisma to hide. It could be anyone, and it will do harm for reason than because it could. It does not deserve forgiveness, mercy, or even a defense. There are millions like it, and it could be anyone. Even I, someone who always goes in expecting to be stabbed in the back, would be fooled. It can fool anyone. It cannot feel remorse and it cannot change itself. It cannot learn anything that doesn't give it more opportunities to harm. Do not treat it as a person. It doesn't consider you one.
He's a charming, charismatic sociopath. I get he has some legit mental health issues but he seems too embrace them too further his means rather then live with them. He was a smart, cunning, ruthless and face it funny guy... who wouldn't?
as does anything that can't feel remorse. it isn't someone *with* an illness. it *is* the illness. there is no "someone". it's a cookie-cutter copy of everything else that can't feel remorse. every one of which is dangerous and near-impossible to detect until far after it's hurt you. the worst part about these things is they can and will know exactly what your vulnerabilities are before they even start talking to you. Those things are monsters and, while they need to be stopped in a very permanent way, such a thing is impossible. After all, the only ones who could be that thorough in completely removing someone are those same monsters.
Having dealt with a complete sociopath myself, my ex-roommate who turned out to be a con artist I learned that people like that unfortunately exist. He wasn't above taking advantage of people with disabilities and would always try to spin things in a way that validates his horrid actions and was practiced in tactics with fooling more gullible people making himself appear as a victim despite making off with stolen assets. I remember my ex-roommate getting an eviction notice against him finally from my landlady and since it would take 30 days to go into effect before he left he would consistently make my life a living hell for the purpose of getting me to lose my cool and rationality. Since then I utterly despise sociopaths and believe in the existence of hell or a form of it just for people like this.
I've personally tried to make contact with your community to see what everything every outsider and their grandmother were starting slander and witchhunts about. They all claimed severe flaws in your community that allowed toon to do all this. I personally didn't believe it, but I still wanted to meet you all to see for myself how good of people you really are, especially having been a fan of many brony analysis youtubers for several months before this incident. I still want to meet the community, but here's the thing, no one could ask you guys about this because its a nightmare to get in touch with any of you and hope to get a response of any kind.
My selfish question is what happens to DnD? It gives me joy and I love the series. I'm already grieving the videos I now longer get to see because toon is in them. 😭 Hoping you all the best
I want to say that I really feel sorry for all of you but guys please don't just let this past. I know its damaging but we have to learn from out mistakes and understand that we can't let people like toon weasel their way in. The community is stronger that that.
when you said you weren't sure wether this was the right call it really was telling the people who they are close to/ working with first was the best course of action and also getting the authorities involved was good to
WAIT WAIT WAIT. He did what?! A 14 YEAR OLD FILIPINO GIRL. YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS. This comment (and the one below me) are from the philipines. Why toon? Just... *W h y ?* Look we all forgive and understand this but come on! I'm a nice guy in general even after getting hurt a LOT. But this is TOO far... Sorry... *I had to let this out.*
The last time I heard anything about Toon is he wasn't arrested and he's still on TH-cam under a different OC and he is still grooming children Massiker Mollie who said she was one of his victims deleted her video she made about Toon and is still associated with him in some capacity keep in mind that I haven't closely followed anything involving Toon in a long time (and I don't care to) but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he's still grooming children as when this news broke it wasn't the first time he was associating with minors
While other fandoms may have difficulty with keeping an eye on every member, a more effective solution may be to get him banned from going to conventions and to block his IP address from accessing fandom sites. This way, short of youtube videos, he can't interact with online communities nor be present physically at certain events. If he's charged and found guilty of pedophilia, that is a good case to make to the planning committees and admins ban him as both areas are supposed to be a safe place for the fandom's targeted audience: children. If he's at least charged, that's also a good reason, but it won't get him banned if he's found innocent. It WILL, however, allow for them to refuse him free passes, panel entries, and any or all privileges he used to have.
Given the information I’ve gathered, toon seems to be sick mentally. That’s not to say that he’s skitzo, more or less the fact that he’s part of the demographic of the world population that believes that their wrongdoings have no significant impact on their life or the life of others. And that they understand that what they do is wrong, and they continue to commit to their actions. When confronted with their decision they revert to a mental state that has a defensive model but that is not outwardly aggressive. With this type of person over years of being confronted they build a structure of manipulation to continue doing whatever they do despite getting caught. It doesn’t necessarily have to be pedophilia, it can be theft, adultery, etc. identifying the structure of manipulation is very important, but it usually tends to be repetitive following a specific form of steps that over a period of time can be recognized. I deeply feel for our analyst community and believe that even with this hurtful situation we all learn the actions of one individual can ripple through the community and that not just the faces we see on TH-cam but those that watch their content. I had used to watch toons content and found it surprising, given that I don’t know him personally and just know the type of person he is via vlogs at cons. I’m not trying to justify what he did, I’m simply trying state what I’ve experienced in my life and I find that it’s extremely similar. I listened to the videos and the Skype calls, and it sounds as though he needs mental health services. He needs to accept help and go back to therapy and stay out of any public light until his probation is over with. Which keep in mind takes years, so we won’t see anything from him for years. Coming out with a public apology, providing evidence of his work getting help, and stating that his career on TH-cam is finished to give the public closure seems appropriate to me. I know most of you would disagree and that’s ok but I’m not one to hold a grudge, even for something as serious as this unfortunately. I have unwavering faith in our community and even though we face something that we will never forget, I believe he deserves to at least apologize and leave. Not just to the analysts, but to the community as well. Please any comments of constructive feedback is welcomed.
I have a question - for Roundtable is Magic, would you guys take over with your own livestreams? Or is it done? Just asking as that’s one thing I’m more confused about.
When this news came up, I was shocked. Maybe the reviewer should at least to explain why they cut off Toon, rather just stated in the channel they cut Toon because he is a paedophile. I mean, I thought the community didn't even gave him a chance to proof himself. For me that is just known Toon as a brony analysis and nothing more of his background, I thought the community play a big prank on Toon. And even so, just cut him off like that is, well, not a good idea, but I believe you are doing what is right in your situation. I may need time to recover from this shock.
I'll admit that I ha ven't been keeping up on some currednt content from the brony community outside of checking to see if the final videos to the count of monte cristo mlp songs by Ink Potts or Daughter of Discord by Disney Fanatic have been uploaded. That sa id, I have come across some of these people's content within the past couple years, including Toon Kritic. So I'm just kinda shocked that such a thing happened from s omeone in the brony community.
While I agree this is most disturbing I think we should focus on something positive here. It seems that most of the offences at least the ones that were brought up we're just about all online very minor. The important thing is that he was found out reported to the authorities and will get either the help he needs or will be monitored for the rest of his life. Making it very unlikely that he will ever truly hurt someone.
I actually have a question Q: can the worst person in the world truly change for the better even if we know that change won't last for long? Side note: I've heard all about this from Lily Peet and from everyone else and I've watched their response videos thought i know wouldn't be able to stomach watching the leaked video. But from everything I've heard it just makes me wonder is there still enough good in the world to balance out all of its evil.
As long as there is humanity, there is potential for good. Even in the darkest of nights, there are small stars that have lit the way for humanity in the past. I'm not saying that we completely throw this aside. Zak committed a crime, and now must face justice for it, whether that's prison time, house arrest, or the sheer fact he is now a pariah online. But in this time, he's given a choice: stew in his hatred, or face what he did and learn to be a better person. The other thing we must do is help the victims heal and move on. Coming from childhood abuse, I know that the victims will need much time to recover. But we all can heal with time. Frankly, I don't like people like Lily Peet's coverage. They insist on throwing gas on a dumpster fire thinking it will somehow help, that anything will change, while also going against the point of forgiveness. Should we forgive Toon now? No. Now is the time for justice. But we cannot hate forever. If we hate, we will do nothing but poison ourselves into the things we despise in the world. I say, let Lily and anyone wanting to persecute the others as they please. Only the Analysis community can truly change themselves. Sleep well, my friend, find peace in eternity.
Jack Of All Trades thanks for your response hello I'm going to stick to the fact that he deserves whatever comes his way he made this mess I'd rather see him get what he deserves
Mark M. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some form of retribution, but let's wait for that to finish to see if he has thought through his actions and truly wishes to change.
Madmadjester17 13 ask two parents permission make sure it's okay 14 little bit of leeway 15 year in the safe Zone 16 sure 17 yes there are my thoughts on this bring your delicious hatred towards me
Don't worry voice you'll get through this and so will his victims I know that with our support you, your friends and his victims will get closure from this I know deep down in my heart that you will get justice
You know what's sad? I miss his videos... He was fun to watch, and I kinda miss him... Well, I miss his character. He's obviously a bad person, even if she was above her age of consent in her country, which probably muddled the whole thing in regards to punishment, but I enjoyed his character on YT. Anyone agree? I can't be the only one that misses his character.
I Don't really think we should worry of this going public because let's be honest, if that actually happened, it would have been all over the news right now, that being said however, I the thought of it still scares me
v1ct0r1n01 toons not the first in the community to be a pedo the news isn’t going to say anything about the brony community because it doesn’t care what toon did was bad but not the worst thing Imaginable
Regardless of how they're handling it, what he did isn't exactly justified and they're kinda bring up past stuff because its kinda an example of it not being the first time he's been hiding stuff, and it honestly shouldn't have blown up like this but "welcome to the internet" nothing stays quiet long
As it was said they a lot that known etheir didn't think too much of it until too late which is an oops on their part yes or we're manipulated in someway and they didn't want it leaked like this is because honestly this is something that needed to be handled by the authorities and not something for public eyes because it probably had the victims name in it and they'd have people trying to come at her and probably trying to ask them more about this.
I said nothing about them making excuses about what currently just happened,I them ignoring his behavior leading up to this that could have been catch but was brushed off as nothing but him just being "dumb" and he was hiding the fact that he was doing this so yes they should have catch on to this and even other stuff he was doing but didn't cause the people he was etheir abusing were scared to speak up about it til the last minute and yes maybe the police won't do something about it or they will who knows, but it not our call what happens at this point, it would be better if he throw in jail or get some kind of reality check to learn that he can't get away with this kind of stuff cause it is very wrong, but again not our call cause we'd make it a personal thing and not a professional thing
Vida I'm more neutral on them not telling sooner at this point, I'm not sure if they were manipulated, but I do think it could have been a possibility, not that it excuses anything. I'm just wondering if there was any evidence that there was no manipulation, or if there was, why you aren't taking it into consideration? Not trying to point blame on you, I can understand why you'd be upset with them, I just want to fully understand what it is about the manipulation claim that you don't buy into. Since you kind of just said "Stop saying that they could have been manipulated" without backing up whether they weren't or not or why it isn't valid. Again I'm not trying to invalidate your point, I'm just curious as to why you don't think they were manipulated
I say forgive Toon, when he earns it. If he even tries. But that will be entirely up to the community, and his former friends. Me? Honestly, now Toon is dead. All that's left is Zak. And I feel pity... and that is all.
Akeno Hawke Just remember Toon as the kind and friendly character shown in his former videos, and not let Zak and his toxic behaviour poison who the character he made was. Everyone is doing their best to move on, so i say we do the same and come together as a community for their sake. It's the only way we can help everyone right now.
Grimm Reaper accuse, maybe. But only those who can't understand that the only way this ends, is to forgive and move on. I'm not saying forget, because one... yeah nobody is forgetting this obviously. And two, I am certainly not excusing his actions. Zak dug his hole, it's up to him if he ever gets out. And yeah, not calling him Toon anymore. He lost that right.
I have to admit, reaching out to you guys during the stream.. that helped. That helped so fucking much.
The disappointing thing is he didn't turn himself in. That his family tried calling the group and try to keep them from reporting the information. I do hope we never see him at an cons, Brony, Furry, or Comic. That he lives the rest of his life having to tell this story every time HR department conducts a background check on him.
And I really hate it when critics say "But you guys heard the stories of what he was doing! Why didn't you act until the sex rp!?" Uh because you can't just walk into a police station and point fingers at a guy and say "This guy is a molester!" without any proof. If you do that the police are either going to dismiss your case or say they'll work on it but not really do anything. I know our primal instinct is to do something immediately but that doesn't work. Look people we are not cops. We are not lawyers or detectives. Whatever happens to Zak is up to the court and jury.
I also hate it that many are throwing hate at people such as Josh when they tried to resolve the issue before the unexpected leak happened. They were trying to solve the situation in a professional way before anything happened to be public.
oh absolutely.
Sadly sometimes the opposite is true and the law will get the accused with little to no evidence and a innocent person will lose everything, thus they probably wanted to make sure they were 110% right about all this because the price of accusing someone of something like this is staggering even if there then almost - or outright - immediately proven innocent because this kind of thing stay's around forever guilty or not, and if it was someone you loved with all your heart being accused of this wouldn't you want to be absolutely sure before you in essence ended there life forever?
All because you are personally close with your friend, doesn't mean you know everything about him, nor do you know it was happening before the news come out.
Not to mention Toon was a master manipulator and the few people who do defend him are most likely victims of TK as well.
This is one of those times I think you really live up to your screen name, Voice. It's really nice to finally hear an account that is proper fact and discussion based. Every video I go to seems mostly centered around pain, anger, sadness and/or revenge. This leads to a lot of really disturbing results in the comment section. It's been needlessly stressful.
Also it was nice to see Keychi involved. I've always seen her as an in between person, someone both a part and not a part of the review community. She has a unique perspective and a puts her in a good position to call out bull hockey when she sees it. The fact that she was fooled by Toon is a HUGE revelation to just how convincing his act was.
If I could ask, Has anyone heard from Finn? I'm really worried about him.
Finn has had a rough time dealing with all this, but he's ok. He'll carry on just like the rest of us.
Dear VoiceOfReason
Keep up the good work, sir. A lot of what I feel about this whole thing can be summed up with a comment I left on Dr. Wolf's video on this matter. All I have left to say is keep on the good path.
Keep moving forward.
I know this is 5 years late and I’m not in the Brony fandom but I support this fandom and feel sorry for the ones that have to go through Toons behavior, lies, and manipulations. I also feel sorry for the girl in the Philippines who had to be the victim of the disgusting man. All of you did the right thing.
I heard about this issue when I was in Junior year of High School and I didn’t understand what did he do or what was “Pedophilia” until a few years later, I finally understood and felt bad that I didn’t understood earlier.
I can relate to this issue as I had a friend who turned out to be like Toon and was angry and upset of his behavior and lies after my friends and I tried to help him through self-harming.
I don’t associate anyone who’s a pedophile. I strongly encourage anyone to not only disassociate one, but help spread awareness for something like this.
Again, I apologize for being 5 years late, but I want to say I’m sorry that you lot had go through his lies and finding out the hard and miserable truth. I’m very disappointed at Toon’s behavior as I supported him associated with Thomas the Tank Engine. It’s safe to say I don’t anymore. I felt bad for also listening to the leak video chat as I was curious as how it went down. I didn’t bought any of Toon’s excuses.
I’m glad to see everyone has moved on from this issue, hope everyone is doing well as of right now, I pray that nothing like this will ever happen again in the Brony Community, and we can safely say that a lesson has been learned.
May the victims get Justice.
I am so proud of you guys! I have never seen a community of analyst for a show become such good friends, and DON'T GET INTO BULL CRAP AND BREAK THE RULES!!!! You guys KNOW where the BORDERLINE IS!!!! You guys have your fun but on in a stupid "hey lets break the law" way!!! I apperciate you guys!! Thank you so much for being so determined to do what is right. and trying to really do what is best.
Having been born and raised in the Philippinese. I can tell you that the age of consent in the Philippines is NOT 14 years old.
Worse, he claimed that it was 12.
I speak for the victim cause im also a filipino and am offended by what toon said that "this can ruin my reputation"
I amplude by his behavoir i have been manipulated myself by other people i may have not told anyone but i stood my ground and now im still very cautious of my acts i am a fellow roleplayer yet i roleplay with people my age
BUT NO MORE CHATTER
I WISH TOON GETS WHAT DESERVES im sorry my fellow bronies i have respect with all of u toon need therapy i study psychology and he needs it i hope for the best for him despite my anger being inragged by his acts
My sincerest sympathies to the victims in this case. I am truly disappointed and disgusted by this.
my support, prayers and hugs go out to all of you affected, may each day your feet be surer and your stride stronger
I have a confession to make. I've listened to the skype call with Toon. Multiple times, in fact. While there were times that I felt so very numb, due to how cold, calm and disconnected Toon was, there were times I ended up enjoying seeing the others, specifically British Ninja and Irish John, and sometimes Josh Scorcher, verbally nailing him to the wall. But, that being said, I, personally, am glad I wasn't in that call. Ignoring the fact that I didn't know Toon, I'm just putting myself in the shoes of someone that may have, who was betrayed by him...I wouldn't be anywhere near as professional. And I hate that. I don't think there would have been any way I could have kept my cool, as betrayal is one of the very few things that enrage me. I guess what I'm really trying to say with this is that I have a ton of respect for British Ninja and Irish John for how they composed themselves.
Archer Slam-BAM This is the first I've heard of any of this this, but oh dear I am terrified of hearing Josh's reaction, like holy shit...
Josh wasn't even remotely as brutal as British Ninja was. Not even close to being close.
Archer Slam-BAM I just assumed, since Josh is a scary ass dude
Toon is a classic textbook narcissist. This is how they roll. I'm sorry you guys learned this lesson the hard way.
Now you know though what to look out for and have hopefully been digging into the behavior warning signs. You can step it up and help protect the community by pointing out these harmful behaviors and red flags.
And you can help protect the community from future predators. The MLP fandom is unfortunately a ripe target for people like Toon. You know better now. Do better now.
To the victims - I've been in your shoes. It's okay to demand your space so that you have time to heal. It's okay to be mad. You got this. And when you're ready, you can teach too what to look out for.
Plus he is a bit of a scam artist to add to that list.
But to be honest, they dealt with one predator in a fandom directed to young children. What happened here would make a lot other communities constantly looking over their shoulders as if they were being watched. Like the old myth about a hydra. Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
Thank you for making this. He hurt a few of friends he of mine ( they were also his friends.. sadly ). And the fact that he did this.. And hurt not only the girl but our mutual friends with it.. Sickens me. Luckily I never even talked to him.. Nor was that big a fan.. So I wasn't hurt as much as my friends.. *sigh*
I was at school when I heard about this. I was going through youtube on my phone during lunch when I saw a couple of videos surrounding the topic by Mad munchkin, SEGAsister, and Lighting Bliss. When I watched the videos I was in total dismay and I felt bad for everyone that was really close too him and hearing rumors that he was trying to come back with a new OC that was when I completely got mad because even a drunk who had done something they actually regret doing would know that's a bad idea because you can't come back from something like that, everyone in the analysis community knows that the good impacts that he had is gone within a finger snap. I'm sorry if I'm ranting about it but it's something that I had to get off my chest and I hope everyone within the community recovers.
Gonna be blunt here. Age of consent is bullshit. If you're under the age of 18, you shouldn't be dating someone over that age and visa versa
you fucking scared me for a sec
Well in my state it's illegal if there is more than a two-year difference as long as parents are aware and consent. For example, a 16 and 18-year-old can date and a 17 and 19 or a 17 and 18-year-old. Which for the final case I don't view as bad. However, most don't do it. I've known one guy who dated a girl a year older but they broke up before she graduated hs.
I watched the Skype call with Toon, I did notice how he wasn't upset until he was told that they were cutting him out of their lives. He kept saying he wanted to do it "his way" which I assume is running and hiding. I part of me can't wait to see him caught, but another part is worried what will happen to to the fan base as a whole.
Thank you for hosting the stream and giving us answers.
you guys did the best best you could and what you thought was right... I stand by it
I wish I found this video sooner. It really clears some stuff up. What annoy's me most is the attack on other members of the community like DRWolf. Before I watched this I watched some videos spitefully saying harmful things to these content creators like how they waited so long to turn him in, or forgetting all about the victims. To me it is all just drama for the sake of drama, and that is what distracts from the real issue. What Toon did was terrible, and there are victims. Adding to the drama just distracts from that, and divides the community making it worse.
Agreed.
Kilgore was one of them videos by vida
I don't believe so.
This was a much better Podcast than ForNoGoodReason's tbh
FNGR was never good tbh.
Neither was the Secret Rift.
Sadly, I'm not surprised. Many bronalysists have used storylines in their reviews or things like the sessions with Dr. Wolf to share personal struggles and how they are trying to change like Golden fox and his girlfriend, Dr. Wolf, or Blissy, and I could tell it was genuine. But his always seemed...fake.. I didn't see remorse...I didn't see tears...I didn't see genuine emotions. It just seemed like an excuse to redo his OC.... I'm saddened and I'm praying for all of you.
Christians tend to solve problems with words and prayer. In a way, it's all talk.
Thank you guys. It's good to hear what happened from those who where there, without colored opinions and half truths from the second hand sources. Prayers for everyone involved, you did well.
I am quite happy that you did this video. I didn't know what was happening, why this happen. Heck, I didn't know this was a thing until two days ago when the Pizza Party Podcast mentioned this. Even then the few videos I saw of this didn't go into much about this.
Shame that this happened. This will unfortunately hurt the brony community, as this will most likely be used as "evidence" to prove all bronies are perverts.
Repost after watching this.
It feels very Bill Cosbyish in the sense that we loved the guy from the Cosby show and children say the darndest things and didn't want to believe this happened.
But it did, and now we have to figure out how to move forward.
Thank you for talking about the situation, I know it is a difficult and worrying time but you answered honestly and has shown responsibility, I know Toon was your friend but you honestly did the correct thing and hopefully Zak gets the help he desperately needs.
The fandom supports the victim and you and the fandom will go on to do bigger and brighter things ^^
Are Blissy,Golden and Keyframe ok?
Voice, I'm proud of you guys for coming out about this.
The scariest part of this is that, in his state, *sexting* with a minor isn’t illegal. I don’t know how this is even possible. This should be punishable by law.
Didn't he receive pics of her? He sent her pics as well. If thats not illegal I'll be sure to avoid his state entirely.
@@SidVacant69 he asked for pics. Idk if she ever sent them or not.
@@SidVacant69 according to the Skype call, he had requested pics from her. Idk if she ever sent them or if he has other pics from other people.
As Cardi B once said.. Toon lies so much he can’t even keep up with his fuckin lies 💀
I hope that poor girl gets the help she needs. I hope she recovers from this and gets some semblance of peace. I also hope the brony community can also recover from this and not only more on but move forward. Its very easy to be coned by a master manipulator, I've been in a situation myself and its pretty damn easy to fall into that trap. I hope you find peace, I really do
sparkplug T read the messages between the two she was just as ok with it as he was she jumped on the band wagon just as fast as he brought it up
wolf2966 she's a young child, its fun to do naughty things at that age, also she was depressed, something toon took advantage of being a pretty good manipulator, if you read some of the posts you would see her growing discomfort with it as he prodded harder and harder. And tell me since when does a young girl with little understanding of the situation have the life experience to actually consent to something like this? Just because she was Ok with it at first makes it alright for an adult to tale full advantage of her? Explain to me how what he did to her was Ok in any since in a well worded, well backed response with plenty of facts and reasons for it and I will take back what I said. To me toon is nothing more then a predator who belongs in prison and that young girl a victim of both a predator, her own lack of life experience and lack of knowledge as how to better protect herself on the internet.
sparkplug T first off I hate it when people use oh she has depression so she must be a victim I don’t buy it I know people with depression but they have common sense I hate that it’s because they were depressed excuse depression is curable you just have to want to get rid of it next a young child is 5-12 years old not 13-17 you have more common sense you should know better he didn’t manipulate her she got into it just as fast as he brought it up also look at the amount of time on the side of the messages 1-2 minutes in response if someone would to hesitate it would be a lot longer second he claims to her what they were doing was wrong and she even said herself she was ok with it please go read the messages to is not the only verdict and this girl could’ve broken her silence the day he brought it up so why didn’t she fear? I call bull with that at 14 and 15 years old your taught about this sort of thing in the fight grade I’ve heard of children having more common sense than what this girl had or she just didn’t care which also doesn’t make her a victim I also didn’t see any signs of discomfort on her side Just toon cause he knew what he was doing was wrong she just didn’t care because if it’s online especially theirs not really a lot you can do to manipulate someone unless you are truly that weak of a person in which case you need help just as much and hopefully she actually gets it now
wolf2966 she has severe depression, at that age I'm pretty sure your guards a little down already also you don't have to be a weak minded simpleton to be taken by a con artist. Its pretty easy to be fooled when the manipulator is a really good one. So tell me, how does that make it Ok? No matter how you spin it, toon took advantage of a young girl, if you read her later response you can see she was fooled by him. What's more does it make it any less wrong? Frankly I think your focusing on the wrong thing here. An older man contacted a young girl with the end goal of sex. He was very good at stringing her along and keeping her in line. How is he in any way innocent here? As far as I'm concerned he's a pedophile. He took advantage of a young girl and luckily it was stopped before it went to far. And believe it or not a young child doesn't quite have the reasoning of an adult.
sparkplug T I’m not saying he isn’t he shouldn’t have brought it up to begin with she however was not manipulated cause their was no grooming in order to groom you have to do things in small pieces he came out with it full blown and she had no problem saying yes she’s not a victim just someone who didn’t care about consequences cause he even said it was wrong and she said she didn’t care so why is all the blame going on toon when some of this is on her as well she could’ve came forward sooner why didn’t she just because she had depression does not mean she doesn’t know the difference between right and wrong no one in this innocent both acted stupid she’s obviously smart enough to know about sexual acts for one your going to tell me she had no idea what was happening was wrong and the way she was talking to toon she has no innocence I’ve heard stuff like that come out of the mouths of adults
I used to love most of that MLP analysis community but some of them have done horrible things I thought critic was a good person but now I know the truth thank you voicing this problem
This has cleared up alot of my questions. The only thing i still dont get is why some of his victims like his ex or patchwork was shut down and not listen too. I get he was manipulating everyone but still. It makes me worry.
How has everyone been since this incident?
@Jon Aschenbrenner well you can never know. Some people can recover and move on while others can't.
@Marcos Cárdenas he can't run forever. He's lost everything at this point.
okay now i understand better and i do not blame any of you guy's. Toon is the one that shot him self in the foot.
I'm sorry about my post before regarding my thoughts on ToonKritic and the Phantom of the Opera. I was listening to it when I found out about what had happened and an image of the Masquerade ball popped in my head. I never ment any harm or to rub salt in the wounds he's already opened.
SEGASister True that
This kind of hurts to hear, since I always kind of liked Toon, but this needs to be done. You should have no blame in taking time to report him, you did all that you could.
I to a break from the show right before this got leaked, so when I came back(6 months later) to a hell storm of a problem. I really wish that the more people would go to these people first then make their videos.
This situation is something no one will never forget
Dylan Shieldstar Agreed, though I think you meant "ever" not "never".
I wonder how long until jokes are made?
How long until jokes are made? A couple days ago.
Is there going to be any kind of info released when he is arrested and is sentenced? I'm betting I'm overstepping myself here but one thing that I think would help everyone keep moving forward is know something is being done. I also know this could restart up a crazy witch hunt thing and I don't want that, so if that's the case I entirely understand.
You know there is Only 1 thing i will miss with ToonKriticY2K & that is his Roundtable is Magic videos. It is a BIG shame that i can't go back now and watch them, they allways brought great joy to my heart to watch them. I understand that they are no longer available to be watched anymore, my 1 wish is that all RiM videos is going to be restored & reuploaded maybe not now but sometime in the future, i understand that you all may not like that, but for me they are not just videos but memories of funnier times gone bye, i hope you understand my point of view.
OMEGALPHALICORN PRIMUNSICRON I hope so too.
I'm curious to know what happened to everyone involved and where they are now.
I would watch a 4 hour video on that
The last time I heard anything Massacre Mollie deleted her video that she made about Toon when everything happened and she went back to Toon I'm not sure if she's still associated with Toon in the present day
considering that Toon has been constantly avoiding the authorities for years, he can't keep this up forever, he's gonna get caught and arrested eventually, ya know?
Seriously? He's not in prison yet?
@@RedactorYT nope he's not, that coward continues avoiding the authorities to this day, trying to claim innocence or whatever, but like I said, he can't keep doing this forever.
I want you guys too know as an honest yet modest fan I understand what it's like too have been duped by guys like him. I've been duped (mercifully not a victim, another matter) by guys just like that who are cunning megalomaniac sociopaths, they are at a glance all he was until all is exposed. I wish you all the best and hope things can move on in time. As for him, it's now a matter for the courts. 2018 is still young, hopefully the rest of it will be more positive! But keep a file of your videos.
I had someone like that in my own family. It's easy to want to believe someones lies when you care about them.
Yikes, it was mostly leaders of clubs and the like for me.
Man I missed a lot
Same
I'm not not close with toon but this has frustrated and upset with him.this is going to not only fracture the community and mess up the life of the victims. I being a victim of sexual assault/harassment can relate to the victim.im a newish member of the community just starting out most of my videos right now are song covers but for sure this coming season of my little pony I'll start reviewing the show but now I questioning if I should but I su I'm a part of the community because I watch the show. I'll be praying for you guys and the whole community and also especially toon. Thanks for bringing this to light
hello there. i was unfortunately fooled by zak kayes back in 2021 up until july of this year. today i just learned of his past on this platform, and i am absolutely sick to my stomach. no minors have been harmed or talked to to my knowledge since i've known him, but he has harassed me and other friends that he has made over the few years, and i even caught him trying to invite a pedophile from the sonic community into our friend group at one point, and i still fucking gave him the benefit of the doubt afterwards that his intentions were good and gave him the benefit of the doubt that he just "didn't know." we are all spreading awareness about him on twitter currently, and seeing all of this shit about him on youtube has encouraged us to all speak up on him, to get him off of the internet once and for all. i wish i had known about all of this sooner, or else i never would have associated with this man to begin with. thank you for speaking out so long ago when you did, as these callouts are still helping today.
Yo! Voice, been a while since I found myself watching one of your vids... Hell of a time for me to look your name up, and this video... I just wanted to say that I was never close to TK, my heart and support goes out to all those affected by this catastrophe, and as much as I do not like her at all... Lily Peet does make several good points in her response to the incident, No matter how misinformed. There are things that do need fixing in this fandom, and I am sure we all can come together to achieve it. Thank you for hearing me out, and godspeed.
If I’m not mistaken, don’t countries with lower ages of consent tend to deal in brackets of age when it comes to that? Like between two 14-17 is ok but a 14 year old and a 25 year old isn’t.
Thank you for the update.
I think you guys need to hear this. There is no "the only thing you can do". There is nothing to learn from this. There is no "what now". Don't bother forgiving him. He will use it against you. Things like Toon always do that, without exception. That kind of thing will use its charisma to hide. It could be anyone, and it will do harm for reason than because it could. It does not deserve forgiveness, mercy, or even a defense. There are millions like it, and it could be anyone. Even I, someone who always goes in expecting to be stabbed in the back, would be fooled. It can fool anyone. It cannot feel remorse and it cannot change itself. It cannot learn anything that doesn't give it more opportunities to harm. Do not treat it as a person. It doesn't consider you one.
He's a charming, charismatic sociopath. I get he has some legit mental health issues but he seems too embrace them too further his means rather then live with them. He was a smart, cunning, ruthless and face it funny guy... who wouldn't?
as does anything that can't feel remorse. it isn't someone *with* an illness. it *is* the illness. there is no "someone". it's a cookie-cutter copy of everything else that can't feel remorse. every one of which is dangerous and near-impossible to detect until far after it's hurt you. the worst part about these things is they can and will know exactly what your vulnerabilities are before they even start talking to you. Those things are monsters and, while they need to be stopped in a very permanent way, such a thing is impossible. After all, the only ones who could be that thorough in completely removing someone are those same monsters.
Yeah, what I tried too say. I've seen it all before.
Having dealt with a complete sociopath myself, my ex-roommate who turned out to be a con artist I learned that people like that unfortunately exist. He wasn't above taking advantage of people with disabilities and would always try to spin things in a way that validates his horrid actions and was practiced in tactics with fooling more gullible people making himself appear as a victim despite making off with stolen assets. I remember my ex-roommate getting an eviction notice against him finally from my landlady and since it would take 30 days to go into effect before he left he would consistently make my life a living hell for the purpose of getting me to lose my cool and rationality. Since then I utterly despise sociopaths and believe in the existence of hell or a form of it just for people like this.
@@HTFFanOfFlakyso what, kill him?!
Will there be a another live stream with other analysts to talk about this?
needles 132, no. They said this will be the only livestream about this topic
I was hoping to hear a few of the others thoughts a little bit more
I know a few of them was in the chat but that was a mess
needles 132
Well some have uploaded their own videos on this.
I know but to be able to ask them questions and to hear their different thoughts
I've personally tried to make contact with your community to see what everything every outsider and their grandmother were starting slander and witchhunts about. They all claimed severe flaws in your community that allowed toon to do all this. I personally didn't believe it, but I still wanted to meet you all to see for myself how good of people you really are, especially having been a fan of many brony analysis youtubers for several months before this incident. I still want to meet the community, but here's the thing, no one could ask you guys about this because its a nightmare to get in touch with any of you and hope to get a response of any kind.
Sorry for yall
This is completely intolerable!
Why did TK get away with all this?
Are the police really that stupid?
Either that, or TK manipulated them.
My selfish question is what happens to DnD? It gives me joy and I love the series. I'm already grieving the videos I now longer get to see because toon is in them. 😭 Hoping you all the best
I want to say that I really feel sorry for all of you but guys please don't just let this past. I know its damaging but we have to learn from out mistakes and understand that we can't let people like toon weasel their way in. The community is stronger that that.
So.... did he ever get caught by the police? (I haven't heard the whole thing)
He has not been arrested as of yet to my knowledge.
@@KeychiFIMnot arrested to this day?
So How will the people you all and toon interview on roundtable will Reacted to knowing this info now?
Have the people that Toon has interviewed been notified about this? If so, have they given their responses?
Toni Leaf They have not. We haven't discussed if they should be informed or not, but I can bring it up with my peers
Wasn’t he dating someone while this went down?
when you said you weren't sure wether this was the right call it really was telling the people who they are close to/ working with first was the best course of action and also getting the authorities involved was good to
WAIT WAIT WAIT.
He did what?! A 14 YEAR OLD FILIPINO GIRL. YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS.
This comment (and the one below me) are from the philipines. Why toon?
Just...
*W h y ?*
Look we all forgive and understand this but come on!
I'm a nice guy in general even after getting hurt a LOT. But this is TOO far...
Sorry...
*I had to let this out.*
I know this happened years ago, but I only just stumbled across this stream and situation. Does anyone have any updates for what happened here?
The last time I heard anything about Toon is he wasn't arrested and he's still on TH-cam under a different OC and he is still grooming children Massiker Mollie who said she was one of his victims deleted her video she made about Toon and is still associated with him in some capacity keep in mind that I haven't closely followed anything involving Toon in a long time (and I don't care to) but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he's still grooming children as when this news broke it wasn't the first time he was associating with minors
@@kalanamalros Okay, the fact that he's still walking free and on TH-cam under a different name after all of this is a complete joke.
We all need to stad together in this dark time
Will you'll notifying other fandoms about him incase he tries to cause any drama with in them?
There's not exactly a central authority in any fandom to notify, and when he tries this again he'll probably hide his identity.
Darth Wedgius if he ever goes on voice somebody should pay attention to the voice that way we can tell if if it's the same person or not
While other fandoms may have difficulty with keeping an eye on every member, a more effective solution may be to get him banned from going to conventions and to block his IP address from accessing fandom sites. This way, short of youtube videos, he can't interact with online communities nor be present physically at certain events.
If he's charged and found guilty of pedophilia, that is a good case to make to the planning committees and admins ban him as both areas are supposed to be a safe place for the fandom's targeted audience: children. If he's at least charged, that's also a good reason, but it won't get him banned if he's found innocent. It WILL, however, allow for them to refuse him free passes, panel entries, and any or all privileges he used to have.
Given the information I’ve gathered, toon seems to be sick mentally. That’s not to say that he’s skitzo, more or less the fact that he’s part of the demographic of the world population that believes that their wrongdoings have no significant impact on their life or the life of others. And that they understand that what they do is wrong, and they continue to commit to their actions. When confronted with their decision they revert to a mental state that has a defensive model but that is not outwardly aggressive. With this type of person over years of being confronted they build a structure of manipulation to continue doing whatever they do despite getting caught. It doesn’t necessarily have to be pedophilia, it can be theft, adultery, etc. identifying the structure of manipulation is very important, but it usually tends to be repetitive following a specific form of steps that over a period of time can be recognized. I deeply feel for our analyst community and believe that even with this hurtful situation we all learn the actions of one individual can ripple through the community and that not just the faces we see on TH-cam but those that watch their content. I had used to watch toons content and found it surprising, given that I don’t know him personally and just know the type of person he is via vlogs at cons. I’m not trying to justify what he did, I’m simply trying state what I’ve experienced in my life and I find that it’s extremely similar. I listened to the videos and the Skype calls, and it sounds as though he needs mental health services. He needs to accept help and go back to therapy and stay out of any public light until his probation is over with. Which keep in mind takes years, so we won’t see anything from him for years. Coming out with a public apology, providing evidence of his work getting help, and stating that his career on TH-cam is finished to give the public closure seems appropriate to me. I know most of you would disagree and that’s ok but I’m not one to hold a grudge, even for something as serious as this unfortunately. I have unwavering faith in our community and even though we face something that we will never forget, I believe he deserves to at least apologize and leave. Not just to the analysts, but to the community as well. Please any comments of constructive feedback is welcomed.
The word, Doctor, that you are fishing for is 'sociopath'
Not sure if i missed it in the live chat. But what well happen with the roundtable is magic videos?
I have a question - for Roundtable is Magic, would you guys take over with your own livestreams? Or is it done? Just asking as that’s one thing I’m more confused about.
At this point, we don't know
VoiceOfReason thanks for the response - if it does continue, take your time! 😊
When this news came up, I was shocked. Maybe the reviewer should at least to explain why they cut off Toon, rather just stated in the channel they cut Toon because he is a paedophile. I mean, I thought the community didn't even gave him a chance to proof himself. For me that is just known Toon as a brony analysis and nothing more of his background, I thought the community play a big prank on Toon. And even so, just cut him off like that is, well, not a good idea, but I believe you are doing what is right in your situation. I may need time to recover from this shock.
I'll admit that I ha ven't been keeping up on some currednt content from the brony community outside of checking to see if the final videos to the count of monte cristo mlp songs by Ink Potts or Daughter of Discord by Disney Fanatic have been uploaded.
That sa id, I have come across some of these people's content within the past couple years, including Toon Kritic. So I'm just kinda shocked that such a thing happened from s omeone in the brony community.
What are you gonna do with all the videos you collabed with Toon on? Are they gonna stay or are they gonna get unlisted/deleted?
I just wonder what their going to do about the TF2 show they have.
While I agree this is most disturbing I think we should focus on something positive here. It seems that most of the offences at least the ones that were brought up we're just about all online very minor. The important thing is that he was found out reported to the authorities and will get either the help he needs or will be monitored for the rest of his life. Making it very unlikely that he will ever truly hurt someone.
I actually have a question
Q: can the worst person in the world truly change for the better even if we know that change won't last for long?
Side note:
I've heard all about this from Lily Peet and from everyone else and I've watched their response videos thought i know wouldn't be able to stomach watching the leaked video. But from everything I've heard it just makes me wonder is there still enough good in the world to balance out all of its evil.
As long as there is humanity, there is potential for good. Even in the darkest of nights, there are small stars that have lit the way for humanity in the past. I'm not saying that we completely throw this aside. Zak committed a crime, and now must face justice for it, whether that's prison time, house arrest, or the sheer fact he is now a pariah online. But in this time, he's given a choice: stew in his hatred, or face what he did and learn to be a better person. The other thing we must do is help the victims heal and move on. Coming from childhood abuse, I know that the victims will need much time to recover. But we all can heal with time.
Frankly, I don't like people like Lily Peet's coverage. They insist on throwing gas on a dumpster fire thinking it will somehow help, that anything will change, while also going against the point of forgiveness. Should we forgive Toon now? No. Now is the time for justice. But we cannot hate forever. If we hate, we will do nothing but poison ourselves into the things we despise in the world. I say, let Lily and anyone wanting to persecute the others as they please. Only the Analysis community can truly change themselves. Sleep well, my friend, find peace in eternity.
Jack Of All Trades thanks for your response hello I'm going to stick to the fact that he deserves whatever comes his way he made this mess I'd rather see him get what he deserves
Mark M. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some form of retribution, but let's wait for that to finish to see if he has thought through his actions and truly wishes to change.
Ohh so whats why his channel is no more
got to love the USA
Madmadjester17 13 ask two parents permission make sure it's okay 14 little bit of leeway 15 year in the safe Zone 16 sure 17 yes there are my thoughts on this bring your delicious hatred towards me
Hm I doubt it'll stop the internet mob from making presumptions about what happened regardless.
That lying devil
CAN I PARK MY BICYCLE HERE?
Sure*
It seems that cat agrees...
Is he in jail now or did he flee?
Hes still in hiding
Rinate Meto
How do you know?🤔
@@OriDream98 its updated on both Josh and the Skype call videos
They updated it last month, hes still I hiding
Rinate Meto
Really? I didn’t know that, I gotta go check it out. What Skype call videos are you talking about? Do you have a link to it?
Don't worry voice you'll get through this and so will his victims I know that with our support you, your friends and his victims will get closure from this I know deep down in my heart that you will get justice
You know what's sad? I miss his videos...
He was fun to watch, and I kinda miss him...
Well, I miss his character. He's obviously a bad person, even if she was above her age of consent in her country, which probably muddled the whole thing in regards to punishment, but I enjoyed his character on YT.
Anyone agree? I can't be the only one that misses his character.
Bad people make for good public personas. Liking the fake version of himself he created is to be expected.
To be honest, I do a little bit. But what he did was terrible.
Tegan Thrussell that’s exactly how I feel
Frankly, I’d hope to forget all about him.
I Don't really think we should worry of this going public because let's be honest, if that actually happened, it would have been all over the news right now, that being said however, I the thought of it still scares me
v1ct0r1n01 toons not the first in the community to be a pedo the news isn’t going to say anything about the brony community because it doesn’t care what toon did was bad but not the worst thing Imaginable
If that’s your biggest concern here, your priorities are fucked my friend
Highly Impactful podcast network it's not my biggest concern, but I still think that the impact of what toon did are going to be pretty big
v1ct0r1n01 oh hands down yes I’m wondering if this will cancel conventions
Where is ToonCritic right now?
Hopefully in a jail cell.
Wearing his Toon hat while cellmates prepare the lotion
I’m sorry to say SEGA, but he’s not in jail yet. But good news! The Chicago DA and FBI are advancing the investigation according to Josh Scorcher.
So I think I already know the answer to this question but will the Off Beats and Roundtable is Magic be cancelled or will they continue without Zak
I hope Roundtable can be salvaged by someone else. It was fun.
Those will most likely be cancelled.
I look up to him
alexzander blashaock You mean, looked up to him? You don't still right?
I do not anymore
Can I follow any Twitter that we're posted
HOLY S#&@, that's f@#$ed up.😱😨
who did a dislike on this ?!
are you metal ?!
Why would someone dislike, this is serious stuff
Regardless of how they're handling it, what he did isn't exactly justified and they're kinda bring up past stuff because its kinda an example of it not being the first time he's been hiding stuff, and it honestly shouldn't have blown up like this but "welcome to the internet" nothing stays quiet long
As it was said they a lot that known etheir didn't think too much of it until too late which is an oops on their part yes or we're manipulated in someway and they didn't want it leaked like this is because honestly this is something that needed to be handled by the authorities and not something for public eyes because it probably had the victims name in it and they'd have people trying to come at her and probably trying to ask them more about this.
I said nothing about them making excuses about what currently just happened,I them ignoring his behavior leading up to this that could have been catch but was brushed off as nothing but him just being "dumb" and he was hiding the fact that he was doing this so yes they should have catch on to this and even other stuff he was doing but didn't cause the people he was etheir abusing were scared to speak up about it til the last minute and yes maybe the police won't do something about it or they will who knows, but it not our call what happens at this point, it would be better if he throw in jail or get some kind of reality check to learn that he can't get away with this kind of stuff cause it is very wrong, but again not our call cause we'd make it a personal thing and not a professional thing
Vida I'm more neutral on them not telling sooner at this point, I'm not sure if they were manipulated, but I do think it could have been a possibility, not that it excuses anything. I'm just wondering if there was any evidence that there was no manipulation, or if there was, why you aren't taking it into consideration? Not trying to point blame on you, I can understand why you'd be upset with them, I just want to fully understand what it is about the manipulation claim that you don't buy into. Since you kind of just said "Stop saying that they could have been manipulated" without backing up whether they weren't or not or why it isn't valid. Again I'm not trying to invalidate your point, I'm just curious as to why you don't think they were manipulated
I,m surethey have seen the videos of vida I think his name was
Has he been arrested yet
No, he is still on the run.
ShadowBrony
Is their even a warrant for his arrest yet?
@@Dark_Tale_2077he's on the run from 2018 to 2023?
I say forgive Toon, when he earns it. If he even tries. But that will be entirely up to the community, and his former friends. Me? Honestly, now Toon is dead. All that's left is Zak. And I feel pity... and that is all.
Akeno Hawke Just remember Toon as the kind and friendly character shown in his former videos, and not let Zak and his toxic behaviour poison who the character he made was. Everyone is doing their best to move on, so i say we do the same and come together as a community for their sake. It's the only way we can help everyone right now.
Akeno Hawke many people will accuse you of defending his actions for saying that, you do know that right? It happened to me and many others
Grimm Reaper accuse, maybe. But only those who can't understand that the only way this ends, is to forgive and move on. I'm not saying forget, because one... yeah nobody is forgetting this obviously. And two, I am certainly not excusing his actions. Zak dug his hole, it's up to him if he ever gets out. And yeah, not calling him Toon anymore. He lost that right.
I'm sorry but age of consent in the Philippines is not 12 yrs. old. Bring a 12 yr. old to a Motel and the police will come knocking at your door.
I've read some conflicting sources of info on the subject, basically what is it?
Basically these conflicting sources of info are bullshit, come to the Philippines, bring a 12 yr. old to a motel and see what happens.
Fair enough (/I know Japans 13 has strings attached), heck 16 (the age in many nations) can be eyebrow raising.
wait the philippines I'm from the philippines
If I would ever do something like that that my parents would make sure I paid the consequences and not try to bail me out
Somehow,Toon returned
so where's toonkriticy2k now?
No one knows.
well I hope he finally turns himself in, cause what he did to voice's girlfriend was unforgivable.
From what I understand, he's living with his grandparents. Or at least that's the rumor that's being spread around.
@Dusk Raccoon about a week ago ForNoGoodReason released a video and discussed on the situation involving toon.
What’s his o’clock name in those fandoms I,m in both