How To Change Honda Manual Transmission Fluid -EricTheCarGuy
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Changing Honda manual transmission fluid is not a difficult task in my opinion. I think the hardest part is figuring out how to fill the transmission. The most important take away however is using the correct fluid, Honda manual or GM Syncromesh fluid. In my experience using other fluids can cause shifting issues or worse bearing issues. This video will take you through the steps I use when changing Honda manual transmission fluid. I hope it helps you get the job done. Here are some links you might find useful.
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hey Eric I like working on my accord stoned too
I thought it was only my imagination... LOL
I like working on the same exact cl but the f22b1 n green it’s a accord with integra suspension but I’m almost always stoned working on it
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I find his voice quite relaxing
Eric ,You just made my day buddy. I am replacing my clutch and i am at a point where i have to drain my gearbox oil, I did not have the right socket for it and was so annoyed and was thinking to take the bus and travel to and back to the parts store to buy the drain plug socket, and then you just mentioned in the video that i can use my ratchet to undo the drain plug . oh my god i cant believe it never cross my mind . it saved my two hours journey going and coming back . such a relief man.lol . thanks buddy been watching your videos for the last three years .
Love how casual this is, not worrying about torque specs and perfection. Thumbs up
It is kinda worrying that he ain't worried since he teaches beginners.
I personally don't use them either expect on some parts I'm not used to snug up.
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Hey Eric.
When I did this for the first time last year on my 05 Civic, the challenge was indeed getting new MTF back in.
The cheapest and easiest option I found was to buy 2 meters (6 feet) of clear plastic hose (8mm internal diameter) from a local hardware store (>£1 or $1) and drop through the bay as you did
I use Manual Synchromesh Transmission Fluid 5W-30 by Amsoil. Smoother shifting and many at the Honda CR-V Club forums (and others) highly recommend it. Also, at Auto Value I found some nice 20mm crush washers for around 1.00 I like them better than the aluminum flat washer used as a "gasket" washer.
Thanks for the top tip to use a metallic 90degree fitting, it made the job so much easier, it literally popped into the filler hole with my extended funnel and tube and took 2minutes to fill up. I can now go and enjoy a few laps at the nurburgring :)
That's been a problem with Honda manuals for years. It's usually 3rd gear that's the problem however. The fix is to replace the syncro.
A magician never reveals their tricks.
Ok Eric the honda god....I need help! My son changed out the cv joint and now theres fluid leaking like crazy and won't go into gear!! Please, please tell me what is happening. I've spent so much money on my car, missed work, etc... It's 2001 honda accord ex 2.3 manual transmission.
I put ACDelco Synchromesh Friction Modified in my 6 speed Accord yesterday and it shifts buttery smooth now. Really happy with the results.
update?
Amsoil also makes a 100% Synthetic special synchromesh fluid (that specifically meets the Honda specification) I believe 5W30 that works very well and is use in all of our manual Honda transmissions. Also my friend with a 2008 Honda 2000 uses it with fantastic performance as well. The exact part# is Amsoil Manual Synchromesh Fluid 5W-30 (MTFQT) replaces: Honda Manual Transmission Fluid, P/N 08798-9031. This fluid is backwards compatible with Honda Manual Transmission Fluid, P/N 08798-9016.
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Agreed, honda motorcycles literally share engine oil with the transmission, so whatever your engine oil viscosity is, I'm sure using it for your transmission wouldn't be bad. I would personally use trans fluid in a car though.
I bought 2004 TL last December and am the 3rd owner. Being a jet plane mechanic, I plan to keep this car for life.
Like Eric says, when Honda says "Use genuine Honda fluid", they are not kidding. The previous owner(s) put engine oil in the MT, aftermarket coolant and ATF in the power steering. I flushed everything except the engine oil & brake + clutch fluid, which I'll be doing when I'm done rebuilding the front end.
Honda's MT fluid & power steering fluid are crystal clear.
I love this channel. Educational and entertaining. Even when it's about something I already know how to do, they're still a lot of fun to watch.
Keep up the awesome work, Eric.
I recently changed out the fluid on my Mazda 626 and used a length of rubber hose. With a long enough hose technically you can fill it no matter what the angle is on the fill port as long as you keep the bottle above the end of the hose. ;) Another great repair video Eric keep 'em coming.
Just did that today on my 201,000 miles Honda Civic and the oil was smelly and black. You can tell the Honda oil is not synthetic, doesn't last too long. I do a oil change for the transmission every 3 years or 30,000 miles, whatever comes first. Much better shifting now. Thanks Eric!
Thanks Eric! I really appreciate the time & effort you put into making these videos. I have 2 Honda's; a 1992 Accord & a 1992 Civic. They are each over 223,000 miles and I really want to keep them going. Your videos are the go to I use to help me do just that.
I purchased a hand pump Pennzoil #36672. $10 on eBay or local farm supply store. It’s advertised as being used for filling boat motor lower units but it’s excellent item for filling manual transmissions and differentials.
Hand pump is the easiest way. I also use hand pump to fill the rear differential fluid on my 4WD honda.
The gears can churn up the oil adding air to it. Once the fluid becomes contaminated with air it will not lubricate properly.
It depends on the situation and application. As for Honda's, go OE whenever possible.
Hey Eric/TH-cam Community, I found this video when searching for a solution to our 2002 Civic 1.7 EX 5 speed manual. Seems to be similar enough to the car in this video, especially the drain/fill procedure. The issue I'm experiencing is when shifting across the shift gate, meaning from left to right and right to left, or when commonly going from 1st to Reverse across the shift gate, or shifting over from 2nd into 3rd, 4th over into 5th, ect. Shifting up and down (such as 1st to 2nd, 3rd to 4th) is no problem. We started by unhooking the shift cable that moves the "up and down" shift lever, and that cable works flawlessly. While under the hood, I can move the cable back and forth by hand and I see the shifter inside the car moving left and right freely. Once you hook the cable back up to the transmission, it takes 2 hands and a lot of force to muscle that shifter over across the gate. Suspecting bad/low fluid levels, we used this video to drain and fill with Honda MTF as seen in the video. No change in issue symptoms. What to inspect and diagnose next? Honestly we're at the point where if we need to remove the transmission to fix this, we're just going to junk the car.
Help!
It may be the synchros wearing out. You should still be able to drive it without too much issue. Have you tried double clutching? Does it still act funny?
Different manufacturers use different fluids. I've even seen automatic transmission fluid in a manual.
Eric the Car Guy is a genius. He tells you how to do stuff cuz he knows he can't do it all on his own. Yet, at the same time, he knows lots of ppl will actually rather have him do it so... win-win.
D-series MT's take around 2 quarts, 2.5 after a full tear down service. B-series take 2.5 quarts, and almost 3 after a tear down service.
Your work here is highly appreciated Eric, I learned a lot of things by watching your videos, I wish I was your apprentice.I Will always support your work
Buy a transmission funnel its a funnel with a long metal flexible hose on it
Agreed.
I use a suction pump with a flexible end on it and pump it in that way ! :P
I have a 98 crv 5spd with 220k on it I just picked up for a winter beater. The guy that had it before me swapped the auto trans for a 5 SPD and lifted it aswell. But, there were a few things I noticed were quite cobbled up on it so I thought I'd better drain the trans because surely these morons didnt put the correct fluid in it. Well I pulled the drain plug out and out came about 1qt of the mildest oil you'll ever see. It obviously had gotten water in it at some point so I'm glad I decided to change the oil with honda MTF before it destroyed the transmission ! Thanks for the tutorial eric I love your videos brother !
Ah, fond memories of days in the lube shop doing these transmissions. We had an air-powered pump that could either suck or blow (so we called it the suck'n'blow) so delivery of the new fluid was pretty easy.
depends on the year. my 8thgen grinds at high rpms sometimes, faulty bushings and synchro. if you change your MTF and shifter bushing, check your clutch engagement, you will have a better idea of what you are dealing with.
Do the values different on some models? I'm sure for my Integra it takes around 2.2 litres = 2 quarts.
I also had a tough time doing this in my 2000 Accord, the cross member was in the way making the fill bolt awkward. I used a wobble socket to take it off and a slim ratcheting wrench to put it back.
As you did, always open the fill plug first. I have seen a person remove the drain plug first but then could not get the fill plug removed. It was a 17mm hex key and of course he didn't have one. So it being 9pm on a Sunday he was stuck without a car.
I've used 1/2 inch tubing with a funnel from the top. Works the same.
thank you! i came back because i remembered watching this video 2 years ago
If you are not doing this all the time, regular old funnel and a length of garden hose (or some PVC tubing from the hardware store) slipped over the end works well and you can squeeze it into the filler. Pays to make sure funnel is well secured or get someone to hold it. If you know the quantity ease up at the end because you do not want a funnel full of fluid and its already coming out of the filler hole, creates a nice oil slick. But I am sure Eric has never had that happen...:)
Eric, you make it look easy man, having all the proper equipment is important. Thanks for another awesome video! you rock!
My brother and I busted up laughing at the sped up car jack haha
Manuel trans are so easy to work on! Eric is a honda/acura guru
I might add if you want to remove speed sensors or cables, to make SURE you clean the area good around it so you dont knock dirt in the hole while filling. Filling from the side fill hole ensures that junk doesnt fall in. Dirt is very hungry and loves nice taisty bearings.
I'm a Honda expert by trade that's why I mostly see them at the shop. After I'm done with the Subaru I hope to get a TDI however and not only get a German car in the shop but also a diesel. This way I fill 2 long standing requests at the same time.
The owner's manual for my '97 Accord 5-speed states 2 quarts for the manual transmission fluid.
Everyone else does it the hard way with a pump. Your gravity feed method with a 90 degree is awesome.
Agreed. A transmission fluid funnel with flexible pipe works like a charm on my Del Sol.
Thanks for the video. Had to utilize a rubber mallet to get the plugs loose but after that it was a piece of cake. My 12 yr old girl had fun helping me use the pump I bought to fill it.
If you can conscript a buddy to help you, you can attach a funnel to a bit of flexible plastic tubing. You can snake the tubing down in whatever convoluted fashion you deem necessary, and stick it in the fill hole. Then have your friend pour from above and tell him when to stop. You can do it alone too, just hold the tube in place with duct tape or whatever and listen for the fluid. Same thing for differential oil changes.
He'll, yeah, I love the hose and metal tubing for the end of the funnel. I have to change the fluid in my 89 prelude. Love the videos, keep up the good work!
Sean Fitzgerald I have an 89 Prelude is well! Where did you put the funnel? Couldn’t find a direct route down.
Yep. See the clutch hydraulics video.
Thank you! I was about to use honda 10w40 motorcycle oil. Glad i watched your video b4 gitten r done!
I used a pvc vinyl 1/4" hose to fill it up. Super easy.
Thanks, I was going to use 10 W 40 as per manual.
Yes. My 91 CRX has the same recommendation. Honda did not have a specific MTF at that time. I use the Honda MTF in my 91 with no problems.
Fair enough mate. Apologies for getting it wrong. Eric even confirms what you say in his ''precious fluids'' vid. Not sure where I heard about the increased pressure. I'll remember that it's not so in future :)
Can confirm of the syncromesh been running it in my car for the last 4 years (had to look at this video cause I could not for the life of me remember if there was a drain plug 😅)
I did the differential and VTM fluids on the Ridgeline. I just pumped the fluid in until it ran out with a hand pump.
To be exact it takes 2.7 quarts.
Eric, i have done a clutch job (thanks to your many videos i follow your channel fluidly(no pun intended)) and i used the onoy MTF i could find. It was at Advance auto in a yellow bottle. It did just perfect and hasnt hurt the transmission since. I forgot the name of the stuff
Justin MCQUAID penzoil syncromesh?
I have a 1997 Civic Si and it says capacity is 1.9 US Quart
3:16 goooood daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn you fuckin jakced that off the ground fast af
Fastest jack in the west.
have you done any videos or tips on bleeding a clutch...i hear so many ways of doing it what is your method?
When I took Off the fill bolt on my manual transmission is hiss as if air was either rushing out or in. Is that normal?
Hey Erick I have a 1998 Honda Civic Ex 149,000. Automatic 1.6 liter engine. Whenever I'm driving something is screeching very loud, like it sounds like something is grinding against metal. What could cause this. My axles are bad im changing them tomorrow is that what causes the grinding
97 accord. I have an FSM thatll say when. But sometimes certain things are needed more often or less often than stated in the FSM.
good details Eric. can you confirm though that a 96 Accord 4cy vtec takes 2 quarts of oil? thats what the manual says.
Also another way to fill the fluid is go to home depot or any hardware store and buy $2 plastic flexible clear piping. That also worked great.
i replaced the fluid on my manual which is in a car of the same size as the accord here, and the gearbox needed about 1.7 liters of fluid, which equals a little less than 2 quarts in America. So you could be right. Normally automatic gearboxes need more, i.e. 3 quarts of fluid.
very helpful vedio and it can be more helpful if you can drawsome drawings which can showexect location of all the holes and measuremet etc.
That 90° metal bend is an overkill. Any rubber hose that fits in the fill hole is ok. Just fish it in and stick a funnel on the other end. BTW, I am confused about the frequency of this kind of job. My service manual says 120 KKM, you say 50 KKM and every other person tells me this is not needed at all on a MT.
Would like to see some videos on honda AWD systems and why the honda dual pump II fluid is like the only stuff that seems to work good.
Thank you for making good videos.
Thanks for the video. Turns out the stealership of all places was the cheapest to get the fluid. My 97 Accord took two quarts. It sounds like most 90's Hondas take two, not three.
Love emptying fluid and only finding a fraction of what was supposed to be in there though. Once of the easiest maintenance items Ive done so far though. :D
2:00 ; crush washers, at least for a 96-00 Civic with an automatic transmission, the metal washer is found at Parkrose Hardware/Ace Hardware is "class 202, "16955", 18mmx25.5mm"
I have no idea if it is applicable to that Acura. But it was only $0.42 for each washer rather than $3 each at the dealership
You only need 2 quarts for a d series trans
I only put 2 quarts in my integra, it shifts fine but should I add the extra?
I think thats the reverse gear switch for the rear reverse lights and a deep 24mm socket and 8 inch extension get it done but I could be wrong
We see you over here in Ro, a very reliable opinion in many issues. God videos.
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That’s the fastest hydraulic jack I’ve ever seen! Where do I get one like that?
Ive been watching your videos for a long time, and I have thought that when you have had trouble pointing out things that are difficult to see. Try using a 5mW or less green laser pointer. It will somewhat illuminate around your part location, but also bee seen in brighter lighting conditions. Red lasers would be difficult when you use lots of light.
Hey how often should I change my Manual fluid? I autocross my car on the weekend once a month.
Moses Moonsie When the clutch is normally replaced changed & fluids replaced every 65,000 miles... (110 to 115,000 km's).
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Eric mentioned it at the beginning of the video.He also showed how to fill it by removing the speed sensor.If you know so much,why watch this video?!!
My car is a pain to fill. The fill level is about a half inch below the fill bolt on my 2005 mustang gt but I’ve realized that if I jack the front up a little bit I can then just fill it up until it pours out then when I lower the car. It’s about a half inch below the fill bolt. I have no idea why ford did this on their 05 to 10 mustang gt manuals
S40 manual transmission is 1.9 quarts for an oil change.
S4C manual transmission is 2.3 quarts for an oil change.
Just for anyone who might have a car with either of these transmissions and would like to know specific amounts.
A hand pump for filling outboard motor bottom ends will screw onto your container. Works great for diffs too, and cheap.
i rememebr he did post a manual transmission oil change video before and did used a pump from bottom. I beleive it was on a video where he took the gearbox apart.
His videos are more for home diyers, so most people will not have that pump, filling from the button is really easy, you can just use any rubber hose and a cheap funner to fill the gear box with
Thanks Eric, in the uk I advise to use honda mtf3, also if you have a integra type r or ek9 with LSD, cusco japan recommend turning the left front wheel to make sure it lubricates the LSD and hard to reach places and no air pockets, this works well!
So you fill it the way you fill a differentical?
Dear Eric, have a 1998 accord manual trans. Is the 2004 knuckle assembly comparable to the 1998 or better. Thanks for anyone help 😊
As for your hiatus you announced in the last ETCG Newsletter, what about using those loads of pre-shot videos, editing them up quickly before the hiatus and then use the youtube scheduler to upload them preliminarily and then let them go online on the appropriate dates during your time off? I'd love that, and I'm sure not to be the only one of your viewers.
@Elmano Locko from my understanding this is due to the overall engineering of the vehicles. Many German cars today have a lot of plastic parts and technology that often wear out quickly whereas other cars have more metal parts that can last a lot longer
I like that funnel trick. I'm going to use it next time. Thanks.
Why can’t the new fluid go through the top 3/8 drive nut hole that was removed for air flow? Is it so you know how much trans fluid was replaced going through the filler hole 17mm
gm syncromesh is the same as pennzoil syncromesh you would find at autozone and it cost 7.99 Another fantastic fluid is Amsoil Syncromesh fluid.. Ive been using this in my car for the past 60k and its been wonderful. Trans shifts feels better than honda and gm syncromesh
So my gas god 88 crx hf has, like many older hondas, no dipstick to measure transmission fluid. So how do you know when the best time to change the transmission fluid is?
On some cars some air remains in system after normal bleeding like that. Then what you need to do is reverse bleed it by pumping fluid into bleed screw with big syringe and house and taking it of the reservoir.
if I use the wrong transmission fluid would it make my car hard to shift when hot I have a 2002 pt crusier thanks
I think the problem is the PT Cruiser itself
There's no danger in overfilling the transmission fluid (by using all 3 quarts), is there?
75w-90 gear-oil is bit too thick for many Japanese cars. Especially on short drives, cold temperatures and if its mineral oil. It will make your gear stick linkage wore more. But you’re probably ok course its synthetic oil the temperature isn’t probably that cold and if you have lots of miles many of them are long drives in highway.
GM synchromesh is about 70w-80 so it’s a bit thinner.
Thank you for the proper information Eric! So much misinformation online and in dumb shops about regular motor oil somehow being okay.
Finally warm enough outside, getting ready to do a mtf change today actually. Already knew how but as always great to refresh my memory and witness a master do it. Thanks!
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Nice video Eric i recently changed the fluid in my 07 civics 5 spd gearbox i also used Honda manual transmission fluid, not sure if manuals really need Honda fluid since its just splash lubrication but i wanted to be on the safe sidr i know for sure on automatics you MUST use Honda ATF fluid or your just asking for shifting problems in the future.
Thanks for your sharing knowledge 👍
Question. My manual says to Use straight 30 weight ? fill it till it runs out the fill plug hole right ?
I have been using Valvoline SynPower TDL 75W-90 GL4/5 transmission fluid on my car for years now. I'd never use anything else. It works perfectly. Oh, btw my car has more than 200 000 miles in it.
I just used one of those siphon tubes for cleaning gravel of a fishtank, and it's nice because on side close to fill hole there is a clip where I can clip into place on something. Its about 5 foot so I just feed that up top and add my funnel to fill. I used redline for the fluid in the weight they suggested, been doing good now for 2 years. Had to buy me a new tube for cleaning my fishtank but that's ok, I want them alive :-)
Just happy it didn't end up in the fish tank. Next time just buy a transmission funnel and keep your old fish tank siphon
My car needs only 80W mineral transmission oil, according to the manual. But I thought that in the 21st century, I don't want to use mineral oil. And this synthetic oil is pretty damn good, plus I got it pretty cheaply. And I don't have to change it. According to the car's manual, I just have to check the level every 15000kms (~10000miles) and that's it.And I can really shift with two fingers, even in winter. :D It really works for my car. Thank you for your comment.
10w30 is temporary. But yes, GM syncromesh is pretty much all I use in my manuals. It's all 10w30 basically, but with different additives.
T Swag I've been running 10W30 engine oil in my gf's 2001 Civic Lx w/270k miles on the original engine and trans for about 20k miles now no problems. Feels the same as my Genuine fluid in my integra.
hello is there a dipstick for this fluid i can check without draining?