I'm still keeping my A7 III, I just filmed a wedding with it. My client doesn't know what rolling shutter is, or 4K60, or whatever crop percentage it does or even SLOG2 or 3. They can't even tell if whether I did 60fps, 30 or 24. All that matters is that they loved my work, it was spectacular to them, and made them cry in a great way because of the memories I captured and the scenes they weren't able to see. And I only output to 1080p Cameras are just tools and I could have filmed in my DJI Osmo Pocket they would still love it.
Well with this mentality you’ll never become a high value creator. If you think an Osmo pocket will cut it for professional work that’s just sad. Also they may not know 60 vs 24 fps, but they will see the difference between real-time and slow motion. If you want to wow your clients, hit them with the beautiful bokeh, the high dynamic range of the Sony cameras, 4K delivery to future-proof the video, dynamic gimbal movements with real time and slow motion footage. This will wow your clients and get you more gigs. My clients don’t know the jargon, however they see a demo reel and they say, I want THIS. So you provide just that. They will cry if they see grandma’s cell phone footage of the ceremony because a wedding is very emotional, especially in those first few months. Make them a product they can cherish for decades. Make a product you are proud of, make it with love and hard work and earn your rate.
I have the a7III and agree with this if you’re trying to stay on the same level professionally, keep the same type of clients. That’s a legit business strategy. I ague against the “the type of camera doesn’t matter” concept, though. The capabilities of the technology actually can take you to new places creatively and professionally. But it’s important to note if this is necessary for your business or not as it is can be a big investment.
@@WestonNey3000goofy a** response, pretty bokeh and dynamic range doesn’t make you a high value creator. Telling an amazing story with stylized visuals that capture all the emotions on their special day is what makes you wow your client and cherish that video for years to come. You can easily do that with 1080p, this don’t listen to this guy ^ its film nerds like you that annoy me.
@@WestonNey3000if iPhones have made professional videos I’m sure an osmo can. You missed the exact point of what they were saying. A camera is a tool, are there better ones yes, but better camera DOES NOT mean better work.
You didn’t mention the 1.6X crop in 4K 60, the insanely bad rolling shutter or that it overheats very quickly. It also only uses the 7K downsampled image up to 4k 30. (I have one paired with an a7siii)
Wouldn’t say it over heats. Only time mine does is when i’m shooting 4k60 in a hot environment while streaming my stream to my ipad through the image edge app for clients.
@@papsny LOL! That’s exactly right. How did you know?? Man, how will we ever recover from this 🤦🏻♂️😂. Hope you had a great Christmas and pray that you have an even more amazing new year. God bless you.
I still beleive the FX series is better for pure filmmakers: the added fans, buttons layouts, body design better suited for rigging (great minimal rigs even without cages possible) all make them more compelling. The A74 is nevertheless, a better "hybrid" camera.
I have the a74 and the FX3 and the a74 video isn’t any sharper than the FX3. It’s a fantastic camera and I do think I prefer it to the FX3. You should also mention that the FX3 has exactly the same internals as the a7s3. Exactly the same just different body.
Low light is good on the fx30. Don't sleep on it because its a cropped sensor. GH5 GH6 still works great in low light. Lighting would fix "grainy" footage.
Love this vid, I already had an A7iii and grabbed an FX3 as my A cam for video, still use my A7iii for B Cam and photography but I wanna upgrade my A7iii to the A7IV
I think you’ll enjoy it. It’s a great camera. I have sold mine for the a7 cii for the smaller form factor, but it has the same sensor in it and it’s still my main video camera
I own the a7iv. Sharper during the day but fx3 wins at night.. rolling shutter on a7iv is terrible. Panning shots fall apart unless you creep very very slow. A7iv has no timecode dedicated input . O yea and in the professional world a7iv is non existent. People hire off of names unfortunately 🤦🏿♂️. But its still the best of both worlds cam. Did i mention the overheating 🤦🏿♂️
You date bodies, and marry lenses. If your current camera is working well for you now invest in glass. If your finding your limitations are mainly with hardware get a new body.
@@alphaartisan i am not getting remarkable results . Like the details the new social media reels i watch and create for client doesn't meet the quality. I am thinking about a7iv would it be good ? Or should i buy a used a7siii
@@artsbyusama if you are doing a lot of work for clients, and it’s video work, I would go with the A7Siii. It has a better heat dissipation mechanism than the A7IV, will offer better low light performance, and 4k120 and uncropped 4k60. If you need it to be more reliable and are using it for a living buy the tool made specifically for the job.
@@saroshchothia5021 Personally I wouldn't trust it because its autofocus is horrendous. The colors are amazing and if you are tripoding you might be okay but id definitely run away with a sony fx line of some kind for wedding videography.
@@alphaartisan wanted the FX3 but it’s still at full retail value ($3800) so I just picked up the A7SIII for $2750 new in-box, same camera for $1000 less is a no brainer to me
Loved that camera, I’m very ready for Sony to release their next apsc photo camera. I will be picking one up as soon as they do. Looks like they have a few new lens offerings for apsc as well.
What kind of crop?, do you have active stabilization on, or lens breathing comp. How big of a crop? In 50/60p it will only shoot 4k in crop. What’s your codec and setting?
@@alphaartisan seen it. With dummy batteries and external recording, and downgrading codecs, you lose all the benefits of Compact camera that shoots amazing images. also adds at least 1000 usd on that “budget” price.
@@dathofilms minus external recording and it’s a small price hike. Again, for extended recording, any actively cooled systems will be good. Passively cooled hybrid cameras aren’t meant for long form content
@@alphaartisan You comparing it to FX3, and yes FX3 is meant for long form content. Even my A7siii which has no active cooling held up for more then 90 minutes in 40 celsius sun. If we speak about TH-cam, Sure A7IV is great but anything more professional would be putting yourself at risk. Just my thoughts.
@@PissTakeProduction I had on at one point XE-4. Love it and hated it at the same time. Great for photos. Terrible for run and gun anything. It needed more compact lens offerings to make the size of the body worth it. I ended up picking up an a7RV and Sony 24-70 f2.8 gm ii to replace it 🤣
A7-IV is a great camera but it overheats. I had one and it shut down several times in 2 years on me. You cant trust it for live music or live stage plays. Its only for short start and stop clips.
I just buy an FX3 because my a7iv overheat on every shoot. I cant trust it to shoot interview or long video over 8-10min long. ( the heat come from the battery, if i swap the battery for a cold one i have 5 more min to shoot before the next overheat issue. So i bring 2-3 battery with me😅) i think i have a bad one. Some people dont have overheat issues to often like mine. Its sad because the a7iv is an amazing video camera. I keep mine as a B cam and for my photograpy job for photo is a beast.
I ended up sending back A74, & bought the A7S3 🎉 I didn’t need to spend more for the FX3 for a built in fan & XLR handle. Love 4K 120, no overheating, still great pics! I use A7C for pics.
@@lythnork6131 get eh a7iv if your not doing really long studio recording sessions just in case of overheating....you can control your light in that condition. 😉 other than. That you get more with the a7iv. You can use apsc or you can use full frame glass so thats nice
FX6 and FX9 are way to go too :D It's about the form factor and thar 120fps 4K makes the cut, and the V-ND is a must But I shoot and work in TV&Film, where FX9 is the standard
Like this are the only camera someon will look at to make video hahah. None even shoot RAW. they are not even a cin camera. video for vlogging and youtube mabe. but for Film all are useless. so what you forgot to mention the Z9, R5C, Z-Cam F6 which shoots BRAW. Kinefinity line up, Panasonic S1H..
If all you’re focusing is video and don’t want to break the bank. You can’t really beat the FX30 plus the sea of lens selection Sony E mount offers. A74 is def the way to go if you want to do both. The overheating is overrated, a battery grip fixes almost all overheating issues. Btw I have 2 A7IV which I use for photography at my studio and my video podcast setup is comprised of 3 FX30s. Plug them in and forget about overheating issues. Plus APSC lenses are great and a steal compared to full frame. All depends on the use case.
I absolutely agree with your recommendation for hybrid shooters, but for those who are serious about pure video I would recommend the FX30 for these reasons: - 4K120 is definitely cropped (2.43x), but the 4K60 is downsampled 6k at 1.5x - With most scenarios I'd rather have an option for 120fps @2.43x crop then not have the option altogether - 16-bit RAW HDMI out, converted to 12-bit RAW given recorder limitations - This effectively gives you generations of future proofing as recorders expand their color space recording capabilities That being said, if someone is looking for a RAW editing workflow, chances are they're not considering the A7IV to begin with so you recommendation is still valid!
Very well laid out recommendation. I tend to lean on recommending the FX3 for more serious video work. But at that level people know what they need. I like the fact that the FX30 is available as an option, and I think it would make a very good B cam as well.
I’m going to have to test out the Tanron this year. I believe a lot of us are patiently waiting to see what Aps-c wonder Sony is going to release next. I believe with their new lens line up for crop sensor cameras it is going to be a very popular b camera
This is how TH-camrs now, that is wrong suggestion if you are looking for a hybrid go with a74 , looking for video centric fx3, a more budget go for fx30
Perhaps in direct sunlight, I’ve done shoots over an hour in the studio at room temperature with no issues but if you look at my other shorts, you can see how I have mine rigged out to the gate that even further.
A7IV is a vomit inducing camera. Too much rolling shutter. It is great for photos but terrible for video. Way too many better cameras out there with little rolling shutter.
If filming for social media then the Sony a7 4 but if you do want a pro cinema camera for film then the Fx line, pro wedding videographer still use 1080. Sharpness is not always a good thing for cinematic movie making.
@@alphaartisan One was from Amazon brand new, the other from B&H, also new, both had sensor issues and would overheat even after a firmware update. It would overheat just by scrolling through the menu. Sony's had some production problems, it's not just with their cameras too, it's many of their products.
I have no idea what my first mirrorless camera should be. I started off wanting the a6400, then I realized that I should spend the extra few hundred $ for a used a7iii and a used lens. But now everybody is saying that you should go straight to the Sony a74 if you don’t have the a73. I shoot picture and video equally too. Ughh but the a7iv is outside my budget
If I were you, I would buy the a6400 and a 35mm prime. Sony has a great selection of affordable lenses. I would then save up the money until I can afford the A7RV. In your case, you could save up for A7IV or a new one if something comes up.
Faster read out on the fx3/a7siii, and better rolling shutter performance. Less overheating but with less detail. The lower megapixel sensors offer faster readout speeds so rolling shutter and iso performance is also better, the later due to the larger pixels.
I got mine last week after shooting a wedding and realizing that my D810 had limitations and the video part was dying. There was severe aliasing and distortions in my 1st shot. Luckily it only happened when the bridesmaid was walking down the aisleand not with the bride herself. I had to use the footage from the 2nd cam op and piece it together-ish. I wish the 810 at least had N-log. Luckily, my editing skills can salvage the color profiles, but still wouldnt recommend the stress. I learned and acted quickly.
Crop sensor is NOT a negative guys. Also, just light your scenes for cameras in low light. It’s a cinema camera. It’s not meant to just point and shoot. Light your scene and it’s just as good as any camera.
Yes lighting is key, I appreciate, the depth of field, low light capabilities, higher quality glass that comes with a full frame sensor. With that being said, I shoot in crop mode a lot on my full frame camera🤣. The lenses are smaller, cheaper and the new advancements in sensor technology make APSC cameras a weapon in the right hands.
@@alphaartisan No doubt this camera & many others have their own issues. I only shoot 5-10 minutes videos (with the LCD screen open & high temp option “ON”) so the over heat issues is not a big deal to me.
You forgot to mentioned the overheating and crop at 60fps. Ppl don’t listen to this guy. I have all these cameras and fx3 is way to go, amazing low light capability. Sharper doesn’t mean better, cinema line camera have a smoother look for a reason
Take a look at the other comments and my last short about overheating. I like when people are passionate about their equipment, but I’m recommending these for hybrid use, and general video. For video only, where your shooting high frame rates, log profiles, fast pass movement, or in extremely low light and need a high dual base iso I have different recommendations. Welcome to the party.
I have an A7iv and it always blows my mind how people are ok with the rolling shutter for video. I love it for stills and will keep it as a photo camera, but I’m getting an fx3 or a7siii soon for video
I have the A7IV and love it but plan to get the A730 also so I can have the A730 solely for video then my A7IV for photo and use the full frame for video when needed.
@@alphaartisan yeah me neither but vloging and even handheld shot can suffer from strong rolling shutter... cause the rolling plus VR makes a mess at times...
I personally even like the 4k out of the Z30 when the camera is static. There are a lot of good options. I shoot primarily Sony but have been happy with canon, Fuji, some Nikon cameras.
The introduction of rolling shutter is specific to what you shoot and your camera technique, but I’m glad you brought this up. The A7IV produces more rolling shutter than the FX3, which has great rolling shutter performance. The A7IV down samples from 7k to 4k which creates a substantial increase in detail and compresses noise. This creates cleaner, and sharper images and video while offering more latitude to crop in Post. Rolling shutter is a byproduct of sensor readout speed which is slowed down by over sampling. Thus most cameras with higher resolution sensors exhibit more rolling shutter, “assuming the sensor is not stacked, binned, skipping, or paired with a global shutter.” With that being said, If you are shooting video and quickly panning, or whip panning extensively you will see rolling shutter on the A7IV. Turning off stabilization and using Sony’s catalyst browse software uses the cameras gyroscopic data to not only stabilize the video footage, but also remove most of the unpleasant rolling shutter. While this is a legitimate solution, performing this process repeatedly is inefficient and more involved for 10-bit footage. The rolling shutter, exhibited by the A7IV in crop mode is comparable to the FX30, and it performs no where as good as the FX3, which again has great rolling shutter performance, at the cost of a softer image and lower resolution. It would be my recommendation for most that the A7IV will produces the clean images with greater detail. If you are looking to film fast paced sports or film in uncropped 4k 60p or higher, I’d recommend the FX3 or A7SIII.
@@alphaartisan Ohh thats damn interesting to know with the software, i wish canon would do this too because they are definately in need of correcting rolling shutter issues with their downsampled video modes. But despite people crying a lot about the R7s rolling shutter performance (photo and 4k fine video, and its true)... any NOT downsampled movie mode is just fine and its very hard to detect rolling shutter, just if you are very very fast panning like crazy. But the 7k to 4k downsampled 4k24/4k30 is really annoying, panning is only possible very slow for any enviromental shot with architecture or so.
@@alphaartisan Yes the A7SIII would be the way to go for me, if i could afford :D I really though about switching to Sony (since the A7S3 would be the only "affordable" full frame and 120fps video capable camera) but i ended up instead at staying with canon and i really got away with the R7, its a "downgrade" in sensor size from the RP but i just wanted usable 4k60 and 1080p120 at least and good stills capabilities for wildlife. The main issue with the A7S3 "dream camera": the only lens i could really go with would be the 200-600 GM, and thats additionally to the A7S3 a big NoGo (budget wise...) At canon there is so much adapted EF glass "for cheap" aviable and some lenses i own already, and 3rd party lenses are to avoid (bcause of stabilizer and AF) Also, as a Canon only user since about 2008... i think i could not withstand sonys color science, or at least the editing needed for optimizing it.
I appreciate what the FX30 brings to the consumer market. For heavy work I would recommend the FX3 for lowlight performance and FOV, especially when shooting higher frame rates and stabilizing in post.
I'm still keeping my A7 III, I just filmed a wedding with it. My client doesn't know what rolling shutter is, or 4K60, or whatever crop percentage it does or even SLOG2 or 3. They can't even tell if whether I did 60fps, 30 or 24.
All that matters is that they loved my work, it was spectacular to them, and made them cry in a great way because of the memories I captured and the scenes they weren't able to see.
And I only output to 1080p
Cameras are just tools and I could have filmed in my DJI Osmo Pocket they would still love it.
Well with this mentality you’ll never become a high value creator. If you think an Osmo pocket will cut it for professional work that’s just sad. Also they may not know 60 vs 24 fps, but they will see the difference between real-time and slow motion. If you want to wow your clients, hit them with the beautiful bokeh, the high dynamic range of the Sony cameras, 4K delivery to future-proof the video, dynamic gimbal movements with real time and slow motion footage. This will wow your clients and get you more gigs. My clients don’t know the jargon, however they see a demo reel and they say, I want THIS. So you provide just that.
They will cry if they see grandma’s cell phone footage of the ceremony because a wedding is very emotional, especially in those first few months. Make them a product they can cherish for decades. Make a product you are proud of, make it with love and hard work and earn your rate.
I have the a7III and agree with this if you’re trying to stay on the same level professionally, keep the same type of clients. That’s a legit business strategy. I ague against the “the type of camera doesn’t matter” concept, though. The capabilities of the technology actually can take you to new places creatively and professionally. But it’s important to note if this is necessary for your business or not as it is can be a big investment.
4k60 on the a7iii?
@@WestonNey3000goofy a** response, pretty bokeh and dynamic range doesn’t make you a high value creator. Telling an amazing story with stylized visuals that capture all the emotions on their special day is what makes you wow your client and cherish that video for years to come. You can easily do that with 1080p, this don’t listen to this guy ^ its film nerds like you that annoy me.
@@WestonNey3000if iPhones have made professional videos I’m sure an osmo can. You missed the exact point of what they were saying. A camera is a tool, are there better ones yes, but better camera DOES NOT mean better work.
Just grabbed a new a7iv this week 🔥🔥🔥 beautiful camera, matched it with the 85 GM
Uff that’s what I’m about to do except I’m getting a regular 85mm I don’t think the extra thou is work one f stop but that’s just me
@@Nobodytoday12 I’m about to sell my 85 GM and grab a 70-200 mk2, 85gm is a magnificent lens that is definitely a great tool to have in the arsenal!
Sharpness is always for photography not the main reason for video we add mist 🌫️ filters to our cameras to reduce sharpness more in the FX3 camera
Yes but for tech content sharpness is preferred.
@@alphaartisan so its only for specific reason
Yes, tech, or tutorials where your showing intricate parts, but I agree softer is more cinematic.
Sony overheated
@@mohammadalanezi176 turn the heat sensor shutoff to high and it won't overheat.
You didn’t mention the 1.6X crop in 4K 60, the insanely bad rolling shutter or that it overheats very quickly. It also only uses the 7K downsampled image up to 4k 30. (I have one paired with an a7siii)
How often is it overheating on you?
Where does the a7siii rank in this lineup?
@@NathanielJBurns Same as the FX3
Wouldn’t say it over heats. Only time mine does is when i’m shooting 4k60 in a hot environment while streaming my stream to my ipad through the image edge app for clients.
You can buy an adapter for a cage to use the FX3 XLR top handle on the A7IV as well.
Nice, I didn’t know that!
Still rocking my a7iii i got off marketplace for $800 2 years ago and loving it🫡
We have been loving making wedding films with our Nikon Z6 bodies. Thank you for the insight shared in this video 💪🏻🫡
Haha so you're making shitty videos then
@@papsny LOL! That’s exactly right. How did you know?? Man, how will we ever recover from this 🤦🏻♂️😂. Hope you had a great Christmas and pray that you have an even more amazing new year. God bless you.
Lol, Sony smokes Nikon anyday of the week 😂
@@musadays8083 they probably will, once they are actually designed for photography and videography
I still beleive the FX series is better for pure filmmakers: the added fans, buttons layouts, body design better suited for rigging (great minimal rigs even without cages possible) all make them more compelling.
The A74 is nevertheless, a better "hybrid" camera.
I have the a74 and the FX3 and the a74 video isn’t any sharper than the FX3. It’s a fantastic camera and I do think I prefer it to the FX3. You should also mention that the FX3 has exactly the same internals as the a7s3. Exactly the same just different body.
A7iv is amazing 👏. I returned my fx30 for the a7iv. Just didn't compare in low light
Great camera, but not if/when it overheats for longer vids.
I did not experience any overheating issues during long shooting sessions
Low light is good on the fx30. Don't sleep on it because its a cropped sensor. GH5 GH6 still works great in low light. Lighting would fix "grainy" footage.
I don't have lowlight issues with mine after buying the TT Artisan 17 mm and 35 mm, both of them at f/ 1.4.
Love this vid, I already had an A7iii and grabbed an FX3 as my A cam for video, still use my A7iii for B Cam and photography but I wanna upgrade my A7iii to the A7IV
Great vid mate
Thank you!
Just got one
I think you’ll enjoy it. It’s a great camera. I have sold mine for the a7 cii for the smaller form factor, but it has the same sensor in it and it’s still my main video camera
The fact that this video does not once mention the a7siii and they recommend the a7iv says the information here is not very accurate.
FX3 might be a better solution at this point
Can i use my canon lenses for sony a7iv?
Yes google metabones adapter
@@alphaartisan thanks sir
A7iv better than ZV-E1 though? Make a comparison video of those two.
I would choose the A7IV for almost every use case scenario over the Sony Zv-E1 except for extreme low light performance and 4K in slow motion.
sony zv1 will beat all of these three ... BCS it is not a camera but talent that matters
And from tons of reports, it overheats very easily.
Are you experiencing overheating as well?
Overheating is not an issue anymore in Sony
@@eloreneloreneloreneloreneloren mileage may vary depending on how much you are doing to help the camera dissipate the heat.
I own the a7iv. Sharper during the day but fx3 wins at night.. rolling shutter on a7iv is terrible. Panning shots fall apart unless you creep very very slow. A7iv has no timecode dedicated input . O yea and in the professional world a7iv is non existent. People hire off of names unfortunately 🤦🏿♂️. But its still the best of both worlds cam. Did i mention the overheating 🤦🏿♂️
Should i buy a great lens for my sony a7iii or upgrade to a7iv is it worth it?
You date bodies, and marry lenses. If your current camera is working well for you now invest in glass. If your finding your limitations are mainly with hardware get a new body.
@@alphaartisan i am not getting remarkable results . Like the details the new social media reels i watch and create for client doesn't meet the quality. I am thinking about a7iv would it be good ? Or should i buy a used a7siii
@@artsbyusama if you are doing a lot of work for clients, and it’s video work, I would go with the A7Siii. It has a better heat dissipation mechanism than the A7IV, will offer better low light performance, and 4k120 and uncropped 4k60. If you need it to be more reliable and are using it for a living buy the tool made specifically for the job.
@@alphaartisan thank you so much
Love my a7iv but I don’t use it anymore because I grab my fx3 for video and my Fuji xh2s for photo. A7iv collecting dust 😢
How is fuji xh2s for wedding videography?
@@saroshchothia5021 Personally I wouldn't trust it because its autofocus is horrendous. The colors are amazing and if you are tripoding you might be okay but id definitely run away with a sony fx line of some kind for wedding videography.
Sharp video is not exactly the way to go, il you’re looking for a video/cinema camera you don’t want a mirrorles that shoot “sharper videos”
More for what I do, but yes for short film or an artsy aesthetic “ cinematic” a little softness goes a long way.
I'd go for the a7siii tbh
Over the fx3?
@@alphaartisan wanted the FX3 but it’s still at full retail value ($3800) so I just picked up the A7SIII for $2750 new in-box, same camera for $1000 less is a no brainer to me
@@BeaveBallin7 all good points, and 2750 is a great price.
Well, I'll just go with a a6400
And call it a day
Loved that camera, I’m very ready for Sony to release their next apsc photo camera. I will be picking one up as soon as they do. Looks like they have a few new lens offerings for apsc as well.
I would prefer the A7SIII
Another very good option,
Fujifilm xh2 or Sony Alpha 7 iv?
What are you looking to do with the camera, I can recommend one over the other based on your shooting needs, or something you may have not considered.
Or for compactness the Sony A7cii
Yes, I’m currently running one now, works well for on the go filming.
that I chose sony alfa 7 IV
Nikon z7ii ftw
Fx30 vs 7siii
I'm new. What's good and cheap
Zv-e10 and fx-30
I would recommend the FX30 because it never overheats.
a7iv overheat at sunny day for video.
FX 30!!!!! Best value hands down
What about the a7siii
It’s very good but I’d pick up the FX3 if the viewfinder wasn’t needed.
What about the a7rv 👀
I own one and I love it. It’s a little much for” getting started” but if you have the budget and your a hybrid shooter it’s a very nice camera.
@@alphaartisanDope, yeah I def plan on purchasing that one soon!
Choose Lumix S5II if you don't have Sony lenses
My Sonya7m4 starts to crop in full HD mode. It's not even in a aps-c mode... How to resolve it... It's not crops in 100 P... But crops in 25&50 p
What kind of crop?, do you have active stabilization on, or lens breathing comp. How big of a crop? In 50/60p it will only shoot 4k in crop. What’s your codec and setting?
@@alphaartisan when I switched it in movie mode while in full HD... It starts to crops... Not in a s&q mode
No active stabilisation.. Breathing compensation is on
@@sankalppohane different aspect ratio, when you flip the switch from photo to video you will see it crop in. All of them do this. You should be good
@@alphaartisan so, how do I manage to keep my work in a edit
...
My budget is $100 😅
10 dollars at the craft store, create a stop motion video with weird objects you find.
If you want "Cinema" buy a pocket 4k.
I have Sony a1
Overheats
Cool it down, see my other video
@@alphaartisan seen it. With dummy batteries and external recording, and downgrading codecs, you lose all the benefits of Compact camera that shoots amazing images. also adds at least 1000 usd on that “budget” price.
@@dathofilms minus external recording and it’s a small price hike. Again, for extended recording, any actively cooled systems will be good. Passively cooled hybrid cameras aren’t meant for long form content
@@alphaartisan You comparing it to FX3, and yes FX3 is meant for long form content. Even my A7siii which has no active cooling held up for more then 90 minutes in 40 celsius sun. If we speak about TH-cam, Sure A7IV is great but anything more professional would be putting yourself at risk. Just my thoughts.
@@dathofilms agreed, paid work demands a better tool.
But it over heats
I am haven’t had it overheat. I shoot 4k in a studio setting. Turn internal temp to high.
@@alphaartisan I have two of them and they over heat when shooting 4K 30 slog 3. With the high setting. In normal temps.
@@Prime_Photography what codec? I haven’t experienced this yet and my studio is always hot but I’m not grading much so my codec is loght
Do you shoot for any length of time with it ??
@@Prime_Photography yes I shoot anywhere from 40 minutes to an hour.
So buy the FX3
I almost picked one up but went with a different camera altogether.
@@alphaartisan So buy the Fujifilm?
@@PissTakeProduction I had on at one point XE-4. Love it and hated it at the same time. Great for photos. Terrible for run and gun anything. It needed more compact lens offerings to make the size of the body worth it. I ended up picking up an a7RV and Sony 24-70 f2.8 gm ii to replace it 🤣
@@alphaartisan Good setup. After seeing yr YT name def a Sony Dude.
@@PissTakeProduction your actually the first one to recognize that 🤣
A7-IV is a great camera but it overheats. I had one and it shut down several times in 2 years on me. You cant trust it for live music or live stage plays. Its only for short start and stop clips.
I just buy an FX3 because my a7iv overheat on every shoot. I cant trust it to shoot interview or long video over 8-10min long. ( the heat come from the battery, if i swap the battery for a cold one i have 5 more min to shoot before the next overheat issue. So i bring 2-3 battery with me😅) i think i have a bad one. Some people dont have overheat issues to often like mine. Its sad because the a7iv is an amazing video camera. I keep mine as a B cam and for my photograpy job for photo is a beast.
FX3 & A7SIII are the best for filmmaking
All filmmaking ?
@@alphaartisan yes
A7siv rumors coming
Well Gareth Edwards the director of the new movie The Creator chose to use the Sony FX3.
I ended up sending back A74, & bought the A7S3 🎉 I didn’t need to spend more for the FX3 for a built in fan & XLR handle. Love 4K 120, no overheating, still great pics! I use A7C for pics.
Good combo
A7iv is amazing 👏. I returned my fx30 for the a7iv. Just didn't compare in low light
Do you think it’s worth it buy an A7IV Instead of a FX30, I can buy a A7IV for 2200$ no taxes new. What’s your recommendation?
@@lythnork6131 get eh a7iv if your not doing really long studio recording sessions just in case of overheating....you can control your light in that condition. 😉 other than. That you get more with the a7iv. You can use apsc or you can use full frame glass so thats nice
Forgot to mention A7SIII used is the same price as an A7IV
You wanna make videos? Well you should buy the a7iv because it takes good photos 😅🤦🏻♂️
FX6 and FX9 are way to go too :D It's about the form factor and thar 120fps 4K makes the cut, and the V-ND is a must
But I shoot and work in TV&Film, where FX9 is the standard
FX3 mark ii should be amazing
Like this are the only camera someon will look at to make video hahah.
None even shoot RAW. they are not even a cin camera. video for vlogging and youtube mabe. but for Film all are useless.
so what you forgot to mention the Z9, R5C, Z-Cam F6 which shoots BRAW. Kinefinity line up, Panasonic S1H..
If all you’re focusing is video and don’t want to break the bank. You can’t really beat the FX30 plus the sea of lens selection Sony E mount offers. A74 is def the way to go if you want to do both. The overheating is overrated, a battery grip fixes almost all overheating issues.
Btw I have 2 A7IV which I use for photography at my studio and my video podcast setup is comprised of 3 FX30s. Plug them in and forget about overheating issues. Plus APSC lenses are great and a steal compared to full frame. All depends on the use case.
Very practical.
What lens do you use for fx30
the a 74 does not have 4k 120 nor 240 fps slowmo and the iPhone can make comparable photos
My main goal factor is if the camera can record in 10-bit 4:2:2 internally. FX30 for the price and ergonomics for me
I chose the R6 because it has better looking video than all of those cameras.
I absolutely agree with your recommendation for hybrid shooters, but for those who are serious about pure video I would recommend the FX30 for these reasons:
- 4K120 is definitely cropped (2.43x), but the 4K60 is downsampled 6k at 1.5x
- With most scenarios I'd rather have an option for 120fps @2.43x crop then not have the option altogether
- 16-bit RAW HDMI out, converted to 12-bit RAW given recorder limitations
- This effectively gives you generations of future proofing as recorders expand their color space recording capabilities
That being said, if someone is looking for a RAW editing workflow, chances are they're not considering the A7IV to begin with so you recommendation is still valid!
Very well laid out recommendation. I tend to lean on recommending the FX3 for more serious video work. But at that level people know what they need. I like the fact that the FX30 is available as an option, and I think it would make a very good B cam as well.
Straight to the point. Tnx
Obsessed with my a7iv and the tamron 35 150 made it a better camera for me I'm a portrait/wedding photographer and use my a6400 mostly for video work
I’m going to have to test out the Tanron this year. I believe a lot of us are patiently waiting to see what Aps-c wonder Sony is going to release next. I believe with their new lens line up for crop sensor cameras it is going to be a very popular b camera
A7IV great camera but I still choose the fx3 over it any day for film making.
This is how TH-camrs now, that is wrong suggestion if you are looking for a hybrid go with a74 , looking for video centric fx3, a more budget go for fx30
Make a counter argument, I love hearing different perspectives.
A7IV's rolling shutter ? Definitely worse than fx3 I'm guessing
Yes,
A7iv suffers overheating problems when shooting in 4k after 15 mins!
Perhaps in direct sunlight, I’ve done shoots over an hour in the studio at room temperature with no issues but if you look at my other shorts, you can see how I have mine rigged out to the gate that even further.
A7IV is a vomit inducing camera. Too much rolling shutter. It is great for photos but terrible for video. Way too many better cameras out there with little rolling shutter.
Actually it would be good for you, 98 % of your 5 videos are static shots and slow walking. Join the dark side. We have cookies.
You don't have any bulid in crop in fx30
Rolling shutter and low light comparison between the a7iv and fx3
In a running gun scenario, the FX3 were typically be better for low light performance and rolling shutter at the price of resolution
If filming for social media then the Sony a7 4 but if you do want a pro cinema camera for film then the Fx line, pro wedding videographer still use 1080. Sharpness is not always a good thing for cinematic movie making.
Agreed
I bought 2 A7IV and both had sensor defects. Sony's quality has gone downhill over the years.
I’m surprised to hear this. Where did you buy them from?
@@alphaartisan One was from Amazon brand new, the other from B&H, also new, both had sensor issues and would overheat even after a firmware update. It would overheat just by scrolling through the menu. Sony's had some production problems, it's not just with their cameras too, it's many of their products.
@@maximusprometheus6149 I’m assuming B&H took care of you?
@@alphaartisan Yeah I got a full refund from both places, just with a Canon R6 - Zero issues so far.
The A7IV has a 1.5x APSC crop in 4k60, so unfortunately you do lose that 7k downsample in 4k60 🥲
I have no idea what my first mirrorless camera should be. I started off wanting the a6400, then I realized that I should spend the extra few hundred $ for a used a7iii and a used lens. But now everybody is saying that you should go straight to the Sony a74 if you don’t have the a73. I shoot picture and video equally too. Ughh but the a7iv is outside my budget
Just get the a7iii if the IV isn't in your budget, both are great cameras, you are also gonna be very happy with the a6400 too
If I were you, I would buy the a6400 and a 35mm prime. Sony has a great selection of affordable lenses. I would then save up the money until I can afford the A7RV. In your case, you could save up for A7IV or a new one if something comes up.
Save up for a7iv if u have a6400
Which one is better to do boring slow-mo 4k poorly acted voice-over wedding videos to sell to my clients for an inflated price? Thanks in advance.
🤣 iPhone 14
Compare it with SIII please. The SIII/FX3 has 48mpx quad bayer sensor downsampled to 4K.
Faster read out on the fx3/a7siii, and better rolling shutter performance. Less overheating but with less detail. The lower megapixel sensors offer faster readout speeds so rolling shutter and iso performance is also better, the later due to the larger pixels.
I got mine last week after shooting a wedding and realizing that my D810 had limitations and the video part was dying. There was severe aliasing and distortions in my 1st shot. Luckily it only happened when the bridesmaid was walking down the aisleand not with the bride herself. I had to use the footage from the 2nd cam op and piece it together-ish. I wish the 810 at least had N-log. Luckily, my editing skills can salvage the color profiles, but still wouldnt recommend the stress. I learned and acted quickly.
What type of aliasing? Was more of a moiré problem?
A7S3
Yes
Crop sensor is NOT a negative guys. Also, just light your scenes for cameras in low light. It’s a cinema camera. It’s not meant to just point and shoot. Light your scene and it’s just as good as any camera.
Yes lighting is key, I appreciate, the depth of field, low light capabilities, higher quality glass that comes with a full frame sensor. With that being said, I shoot in crop mode a lot on my full frame camera🤣. The lenses are smaller, cheaper and the new advancements in sensor technology make APSC cameras a weapon in the right hands.
A7iv is amazing 👏. I returned my fx30 for the a7iv. Just didn't compare in low light
Me, with a Canon R6 + Sigma 70-200: *grabs popcorn*
Love my a7iv! Combine with my Sony lense (SEL16F28 16mm f/2.8 Wide-Angle) make up for the 4K60p APSC crop…👍
Yes see my overheating video, that’s one of my recommendations
@@alphaartisan No doubt this camera & many others have their own issues. I only shoot 5-10 minutes videos (with the LCD screen open & high temp option “ON”) so the over heat issues is not a big deal to me.
@@TubTechGuru I shoot 30-50 minutes at a time without any issues as well.
Rolling shutter has enterd the chat
On which camera?
@@aytothemm.1035 A7IV
The rolling shutter on the A7iv is real bad tho
Moderate, depending on your technique and there are a few work around. Avoid the A7iv for constant whip pans and filming fast action sports in FF.
You forgot to mentioned the overheating and crop at 60fps. Ppl don’t listen to this guy. I have all these cameras and fx3 is way to go, amazing low light capability. Sharper doesn’t mean better, cinema line camera have a smoother look for a reason
Take a look at the other comments and my last short about overheating. I like when people are passionate about their equipment, but I’m recommending these for hybrid use, and general video. For video only, where your shooting high frame rates, log profiles, fast pass movement, or in extremely low light and need a high dual base iso I have different recommendations. Welcome to the party.
I have an A7iv and it always blows my mind how people are ok with the rolling shutter for video. I love it for stills and will keep it as a photo camera, but I’m getting an fx3 or a7siii soon for video
If your filming sports or fast moving objects I would recommend a sensor with a higher readout speed as well
I have the A7IV and love it but plan to get the A730 also so I can have the A730 solely for video then my A7IV for photo and use the full frame for video when needed.
love my A74 but the rolling shutter... you got to talk about it :) it's not great
Yes, I’ll make a video on the rolling shutter, I don’t do much fast passes video so it is a non issue for me
@@alphaartisan yeah me neither but vloging and even handheld shot can suffer from strong rolling shutter... cause the rolling plus VR makes a mess at times...
@@duncandim interesting, I hold it a lot to vlog for another platform and I don’t have any issues
@@alphaartisan well you have steady hands then :)
Nikon Z50 is a good cheaper version, 4K 30 fps at under 1000 £
I personally even like the 4k out of the Z30 when the camera is static. There are a lot of good options. I shoot primarily Sony but have been happy with canon, Fuji, some Nikon cameras.
A7IV has a terrible Overheating problem. If ur serious about video FX30 or fx3
Why you dont mentioned the horrible rolling shutter on the A7 IV?
The introduction of rolling shutter is specific to what you shoot and your camera technique, but I’m glad you brought this up. The A7IV produces more rolling shutter than the FX3, which has great rolling shutter performance. The A7IV down samples from 7k to 4k which creates a substantial increase in detail and compresses noise. This creates cleaner, and sharper images and video while offering more latitude to crop in Post. Rolling shutter is a byproduct of sensor readout speed which is slowed down by over sampling. Thus most cameras with higher resolution sensors exhibit more rolling shutter, “assuming the sensor is not stacked, binned, skipping, or paired with a global shutter.” With that being said, If you are shooting video and quickly panning, or whip panning extensively you will see rolling shutter on the A7IV. Turning off stabilization and using Sony’s catalyst browse software uses the cameras gyroscopic data to not only stabilize the video footage, but also remove most of the unpleasant rolling shutter. While this is a legitimate solution, performing this process repeatedly is inefficient and more involved for 10-bit footage. The rolling shutter, exhibited by the A7IV in crop mode is comparable to the FX30, and it performs no where as good as the FX3, which again has great rolling shutter performance, at the cost of a softer image and lower resolution. It would be my recommendation for most that the A7IV will produces the clean images with greater detail. If you are looking to film fast paced sports or film in uncropped 4k 60p or higher, I’d recommend the FX3 or A7SIII.
@@alphaartisan Ohh thats damn interesting to know with the software, i wish canon would do this too because they are definately in need of correcting rolling shutter issues with their downsampled video modes.
But despite people crying a lot about the R7s rolling shutter performance (photo and 4k fine video, and its true)... any NOT downsampled movie mode is just fine and its very hard to detect rolling shutter, just if you are very very fast panning like crazy. But the 7k to 4k downsampled 4k24/4k30 is really annoying, panning is only possible very slow for any enviromental shot with architecture or so.
@@alphaartisan Yes the A7SIII would be the way to go for me, if i could afford :D
I really though about switching to Sony (since the A7S3 would be the only "affordable" full frame and 120fps video capable camera) but i ended up instead at staying with canon and i really got away with the R7, its a "downgrade" in sensor size from the RP but i just wanted usable 4k60 and 1080p120 at least and good stills capabilities for wildlife.
The main issue with the A7S3 "dream camera": the only lens i could really go with would be the 200-600 GM, and thats additionally to the A7S3 a big NoGo (budget wise...)
At canon there is so much adapted EF glass "for cheap" aviable and some lenses i own already, and 3rd party lenses are to avoid (bcause of stabilizer and AF)
Also, as a Canon only user since about 2008... i think i could not withstand sonys color science, or at least the editing needed for optimizing it.
There is a setting in the a7iv where the overheating issue becomes irrelevant
Love my a74 best investment
How's over heating problem with A7V
and the A7IV will overheat.
See other video
the kind of review I only have time for these days. lol
Happy to help, there are a lot of other good cameras besides the ones shown here. I’d like to do a longer format review.
Sorry no 4k @ 120
I’m getting the A74 next year my dream camera☺️thank you for this vid
I remember holding this camera in my living room adjusting settings then I felt how hot it got but just being on! No thanks! I got the xh2s instead…
No DCI 4.7k on the A7iv. That’s the main thing keeping me from getting it over the fx30.
Lumix s5 destroys the Fx30/fx3
@@JinKazama92 I wouldn’t say destroy. Sony has way better reliable AF. Also LUMIX doesn’t not have nearly the selection of lenses as Sony.
Please give me this camera 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Sony fx30 great camera
I appreciate what the FX30 brings to the consumer market. For heavy work I would recommend the FX3 for lowlight performance and FOV, especially when shooting higher frame rates and stabilizing in post.
I might have to make an argument for the A7R5, all the benefits of the a7iv without the crop and overheating. What do you guys think??
The eight7 R5 is a nice camera, but it has pixel binning
A7Rii: Hold my Beer!
when netflix approves the a7iv holla