Morayo, it's not an ideology. Our original(undiluted) cultures never had women take on her husband's name. I wish we can see the spiritual side of it... which our Ancestors understood.
In Islam. The prophet SAW said we should be called by our father's name. But in accient times people bear their village names. Like Imam Bukhari. The name of his town is Bukhari. In the north people bear Zaria, Daura, sokoto, Kano etc just for identification.
I wrote this in your other program the men's table and I will paste it here 22:49 A child belongs to her parents, not you as the husband. It was the colonialists who came to disrupt our system. If you are a Yorùbá man as Rich Dad is, what do they call a child in your culture? Omo baba ati iya. If the essence of last name is to show where you came from and who brought you, it is her family, not the husband's family. Do you hear them say you are a child of the husband? The British historically saw marriage as trade and the women were property, that is why she is now under the husband and he is the owner of the woman. Her surname now signifies that you own her, as property. We in Yoruba land do not trade our sons and daughters in that manner, we work as families. You as the husband did not give birth to her. She is your "Ìyàwó" not "Ọmọ ẹ". She is your Wife - Aya. Her lineage belongs to her father's side, not you. You as a man can come and go at anytime through divorce, death and other issues but her father can NEVER EVER change. This is why we have customs of who names the child and who has custody of the child. That is why despite a man being irresponsible in the child's life, the people will still come to him when that child wants to marry. YOUR WIFE IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY. When your daughters are about to get married, I believe you will see the reality. Damn the oyinbo for messing with our traditions and women changing their names like lotto tickets.
You may say that about your culture, but don't make it look like it was the white man that introduced the idea of women being their husband's properties. I know we don't really like the infiltration but let's say the truth.
Let her remain Ms. See how unstable the western world is, because they don't have solid values. Today, people are identifying as what they choose. She/her 😂
When I got married in 2016,a later my husband brought the idea of me changing my name,I told him if he will be the one to run the changing stuff, that im not ready to under go the stress and he understood and let me be.
This is more of a lineage than just a name. How do you trace someone's lineage, family history without the father's name. Women are claiming equality with men and so they felt, their names also should be shared as well as men's name. This isn't about equality, this is about lineage and family root and history
Morayo ….God bless you. I’m not sure why we choose to argue about mundane things, and complicate life as a result. Are we now arguing about family names? Wonderful!. As BeeCee said, the name you claim is yours is actually your Dad’s before marriage.
I retained my father's name. Still holding onto it 10 years after marriage. I don't admire women who changed to her husband's name, divorced, had to revert back to her father's name, and now found her true love, re-marrying again. 😂. The wahala to defend her name on different certificates, especially nin and bvn, I can't deal.
@Farmer BeeceUgboh and this seed planter matter😊 So is the sperm more important than the ovum or is the ovum less than sperm. Oya plant seed na, and let's see if a child will come out without a fertile ground.
The issue is not about one being superior to the other,is just the natural arrangements of things just as you can’t say that a woman should marry à man to her home or pay bride price same you can’t question of surname for the children it’s the man’s But the issue is not just today it is had been dealt with more thousand of years which is in Islamic tradition a woman should not and can not take a man’s name she has to keep her father’s name.
many cultures allow women to maintain their name and give children the mother and father's surnames. For example, Spanish names are long because of this and the norm is to look at a person's name and trace their lineage.
Personally, I don't think this needs to be law. Besides the spiritual reasons (which ties a child or seed to the source of that seed.. that is, The Father), I feel it's just a matter of order in society. For instance, imagine a couple whose children bear names of both sposes, by the 4th generation, and after inter-marryng a long time, how LONG will those great-granchidren's name will have to be? In short, it's not everything that has to be challenged. Besides, in any case the woman always bears a man's name, whether of her father or her husband. She's however also free to generate a completely different name from both her father or her husband, while she can discuss with her husband what the surname of the children should be. Life no hard reach like this naa
Funny, words like "partners" in marriage when it is not gay marriage. Clauses or phrases like the children will decide which name they want to bear (Mother or Father's surname) when they become adult, they should hold on to their Father's surname for now. Madam Beece, a parent be it a man or a woman can't travel out of the country with the kids alone without the consent of the other parent. It is not a gender thing.
Well,is a prophecy that'll definitely happen Women have started chasing men shamelessly under the guise of dating app Time will come when men will drastically diminish on the phase of the earth 🌎 Young girls be seeing our mothers as old school or classless,buh lots of frustration awaits
If a man's name is Mr David, then his wife's name is Mrs Adams-David, then the children's name is Ade David, Mary David. Is this good for the society and the children. This is very destructive. (I used d name David as an example)
Morayo, it's not an ideology. Our original(undiluted) cultures never had women take on her husband's name. I wish we can see the spiritual side of it... which our Ancestors understood.
In Islam. The prophet SAW said we should be called by our father's name. But in accient times people bear their village names. Like Imam Bukhari. The name of his town is Bukhari. In the north people bear Zaria, Daura, sokoto, Kano etc just for identification.
I wrote this in your other program the men's table and I will paste it here
22:49 A child belongs to her parents, not you as the husband. It was the colonialists who came to disrupt our system. If you are a Yorùbá man as Rich Dad is, what do they call a child in your culture? Omo baba ati iya.
If the essence of last name is to show where you came from and who brought you, it is her family, not the husband's family.
Do you hear them say you are a child of the husband? The British historically saw marriage as trade and the women were property, that is why she is now under the husband and he is the owner of the woman. Her surname now signifies that you own her, as property. We in Yoruba land do not trade our sons and daughters in that manner, we work as families. You as the husband did not give birth to her. She is your "Ìyàwó" not "Ọmọ ẹ". She is your Wife - Aya. Her lineage belongs to her father's side, not you. You as a man can come and go at anytime through divorce, death and other issues but her father can NEVER EVER change. This is why we have customs of who names the child and who has custody of the child. That is why despite a man being irresponsible in the child's life, the people will still come to him when that child wants to marry. YOUR WIFE IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY. When your daughters are about to get married, I believe you will see the reality. Damn the oyinbo for messing with our traditions and women changing their names like lotto tickets.
You may say that about your culture, but don't make it look like it was the white man that introduced the idea of women being their husband's properties. I know we don't really like the infiltration but let's say the truth.
Spouses can choose the surnames they wish to go for. Both can retained their names if they so desired
The title "Mrs" means the wife to the name addressed, a woman can never be Mrs to her Father's name because the woman did not marry her Father
Let her remain Ms. See how unstable the western world is, because they don't have solid values. Today, people are identifying as what they choose. She/her 😂
When I got married in 2016,a later my husband brought the idea of me changing my name,I told him if he will be the one to run the changing stuff, that im not ready to under go the stress and he understood and let me be.
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This is more of a lineage than just a name.
How do you trace someone's lineage, family history without the father's name.
Women are claiming equality with men and so they felt, their names also should be shared as well as men's name.
This isn't about equality, this is about lineage and family root and history
So the woman’s lineage is not important to trace
Morayo ….God bless you. I’m not sure why we choose to argue about mundane things, and complicate life as a result. Are we now arguing about family names? Wonderful!. As BeeCee said, the name you claim is yours is actually your Dad’s before marriage.
I retained my father's name. Still holding onto it 10 years after marriage. I don't admire women who changed to her husband's name, divorced, had to revert back to her father's name, and now found her true love, re-marrying again. 😂. The wahala to defend her name on different certificates, especially nin and bvn, I can't deal.
@Farmer BeeceUgboh and this seed planter matter😊
So is the sperm more important than the ovum or is the ovum less than sperm.
Oya plant seed na, and let's see if a child will come out without a fertile ground.
Then stay in your father house and not marry.
The issue is not about one being superior to the other,is just the natural arrangements of things just as you can’t say that a woman should marry à man to her home or pay bride price same you can’t question of surname for the children it’s the man’s
But the issue is not just today it is had been dealt with more thousand of years which is in Islamic tradition a woman should not and can not take a man’s name she has to keep her father’s name.
No Muslim will have problem in their women retaining their father’s name except he or she is ignorant of the Islamic provisions
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Lovely....This makes divorce easier!.😊😊
This is how it starts..from retaining name to other things...
I have a question, should I bear my husband's name or his family name as her surname?
His family name.
He's their son
I missed Becce❤
many cultures allow women to maintain their name and give children the mother and father's surnames.
For example, Spanish names are long because of this and the norm is to look at a person's name and trace their lineage.
Personally, I don't think this needs to be law. Besides the spiritual reasons (which ties a child or seed to the source of that seed.. that is, The Father), I feel it's just a matter of order in society.
For instance, imagine a couple whose children bear names of both sposes, by the 4th generation, and after inter-marryng a long time, how LONG will those great-granchidren's name will have to be?
In short, it's not everything that has to be challenged. Besides, in any case the woman always bears a man's name, whether of her father or her husband.
She's however also free to generate a completely different name from both her father or her husband, while she can discuss with her husband what the surname of the children should be.
Life no hard reach like this naa
The reason women take men's name is ownership. You guys should do research before talking... it's quite embarrassing.🙃🙃
Funny, words like "partners" in marriage when it is not gay marriage. Clauses or phrases like the children will decide which name they want to bear (Mother or Father's surname) when they become adult, they should hold on to their Father's surname for now.
Madam Beece, a parent be it a man or a woman can't travel out of the country with the kids alone without the consent of the other parent. It is not a gender thing.
Ladies oo, read Isaiah 4 vs 1
Well,is a prophecy that'll definitely happen
Women have started chasing men shamelessly under the guise of dating app
Time will come when men will drastically diminish on the phase of the earth 🌎
Young girls be seeing our mothers as old school or classless,buh lots of frustration awaits
If a man's name is Mr David, then his wife's name is Mrs Adams-David, then the children's name is Ade David, Mary David. Is this good for the society and the children. This is very destructive. (I used d name David as an example)