Veronica Ivy - Trans Women in Women’s Sports | The Daily Show
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- “It all boils down to, do you actually think that trans women and intersex women are real women and are really female, or not? And if you do, it’s very simple: Just stop policing who counts as a real woman.” Transgender athlete rights activist and track cycling world champion Veronica Ivy discusses the debate over inclusion of trans women in women’s sports. #DailyShow #Comedy
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imagine normal people compete in paralympic because they say they are disabled.
This makes sense
they should because thats how they self idenity. You're such a biggot. 😆😆
“CAAARRTTT-mannnnnn!”
@@cahivx EXACTLY xD
Hahahaha
It's not transphobic it's having common sense
Nah, they need someone to blame and to get noticed. It will never be simple.
today sadly the sense is uncommon
common sense isn't common, Walter.
This bigot calling people transphobic because they disagree.
Yes thank you. Even if testosterone make no difference...it is bigger lungs, bigger bones, bigger heart, and bigger muscles - that give a huge advantage.
I identify as being sick of this insanity. I’m so over all of it.
I’m glad sick’s comment above me has proclaimed sickself to be over this.
You will be over it when the woke mob says your over it!! It is pure craziness
You’re right. It’s getting ridiculous
Agreed, 100%
Cope harder
"I totally agree with you but some would say" How not to get canceled while asking the question you want to ask 😂
😂😂😂😂😂 Spot on and that's exactly what I said.
Yeah, I'm not a huge Noah fan, but he really did ask the necessary and tough questions here. I was sure he wouldn't, but I was totally wrong.
Yep Trevor is very smart and that’s how you should talk nowadays
This is normalized insanity. This hurts women and young girls greatly. We are regressing women’s rights.
Not so fun when your identity is on the line, now is it?
His point were idiotic tbh😆
Women's rights have nothing to do with this
@@David77ESWhat is it, then?
@@David77ES
Article 1 of the UDHR states: “All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.” Freedom from discrimination, set out in Article 2, is what ensures this equality. - how is it not discrimination to Set up a male Athlete against females? Race horses cant do a gender Match race because it's unethical but women can go into the Ring with a male kickboxer? Uhuh sure 🫥
The obligation to protect requires States to protect individuals and groups against human rights abuses.
- Right to social security
Funny how there is NEVER a conversation about trans men in men's sports, almost as if, gasp, there are inherent biological differences between men and women.
exactly....all the trouble comes from biological males who want to have their way. its mass narcissim..
Exactly!!
You Ate that!
Thisss!!!
I been screaming at my screen for someone to ask this or atleast mention it.
If there are no differences - why is there even a women's category? If it's all fair and square - let men compete with women.
According to her/it that's racist somehow???
They should let this stuff fly in the boxing or mma world. They’ll notice differences real fast. Born men and born woman are in fact different and built different. We can’t change our dna we are born with and those strands are in fact different
You can tell how uncomfortable Noah is. He lets her talk, he kinda challenges her views but not too much; he’s very careful not to lose his job lol.
He’s afraid of the liberal backlash
He ** let's not play pretend
@@Cosmo87- I'd say Progressive backlash. I'm a liberal, but the Progressives have become *almost* as lockstep, hypersensitive, and cancel-y as the far right.
Where is the freedom of speech when a journalist is afraid to speak up. So delusional people rule the world lol we approaching WWW III New generation reality world vs unicorn world 😂
He doesn’t care. He just wants his paycheck. So brave.
Concern for equality and fairness is NOT transphobic!
The people "concerned" about it are transphobic, maybe you misunderstood. Fairness is fine, but it's a gaslight.
Agreed
Agreed!
Look someone who has common sense. This is very uncommon in the internet
@방탄소년단 BTS BTS BTS and BTS
No, its not when it's based on facts: th-cam.com/video/MJ2NYvlrO2U/w-d-xo.html
There is a huge cis-women hate going on in the trans-community when it comes to sport by not accepting facts.
To lecture a black man who grew up during apartheid in South Africa on racism, is a narcissistic level of entitlement I did not previously know was possible.
Precisely my thoughts. A white male thinks he can teach a Black South African man about human rights and racism? How very “pompous white male” of him
Don’t you know? It is the year of Transgenderism. They’ve taken the spot of the most marginalized people in America. So, they can say whatever they want now and get away with it.
This dude is beyond crazy. it's not a woman and MUST NOT play sports in women's category.
You tell em Molly!!!
To add black and white during apartheid.. he was literally born a crime . The audacity is strong with this 1
Have they ever wonder why trans-man never trynna complete in Men’s sports?🤷
Do we know that, though? Media hardly talks about trans men in the first place. As a society, we seem right be more concerned about males becoming women, than females becoming men.
@@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia that's not it, its because men have always beat women by a large margin in competition records, a women that is pretending to be a male has no chance in a competition.
@@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia There are a few cases of FtoM Trans competitors in some sports and it doesn't turn out very well. They never make it past the lowest level of competition.
Transwomen dominate the conversation transmen are never talked about almost non-existent
@@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia bruh why would the media talk about it if they can not win against men. Reality is that men dominance in most of the sports.
“Men have no advantage over women, but I refuse to compete with the men”
Men are built differently facts
We respect people’s choices to live as they identify, but you can’t ignore biological facts. Transwomen are not biological women. The unfair advantages they have in women’s sports are enormous.
Of course he did. How else will a white man get on that level?
@@claracarvalho321 Let me compete against women and I’ll show you😂😂 I can prove it to you in real time, I’m transitioning and I can assure you that I do have an advantage. I just didn’t know until I was looking at the girl behind me as I jogged😂
@@claracarvalho321 proof? Look at in how many cases trans women have dominated biological woman
Now that's a bunch of bs
@@JakeStarz. are you a trans woman who has been on hrt for at least 2 years?
I must give it to them though, they went from fighting for their rights to walking on other people's rights. Wow
When she found the loophole in human rights giving the burden of proof on the excluders, it's like wealthy people finding loopholes in the tax code😂😂😂we are hating on one and not the other which is a weird double standard if you think about it.
@@eugeneeugene3704 😂😂😂
💯💯💯
@@eugeneeugene3704 well it's a system build on business and able to deduct loss so like a billion in loss but even as funny is that is ok giving corporations free land on top of that on a promise of low wage jobs just makes it very funny
@@boknow5506 well if you have no jobs then it’s not that crazy to give business incentive to set up shop in your town. Ireland had that issue, all their young people were leaving the country because there just weren’t jobs, so they gave tax breaks and supplemented building costs etc and brought in industries and fixed their problem. You could say “hey that’s not fair, why are these businesses getting breaks?” But if they didn’t they would have no young people paying taxes and chipping in to social programs and their old people wouldn’t have been able to retire. So, tax breaks vs elderly homeless people and a government with no tax revenue. And what have you lost, when you give a business incentives to move there, if they never ended up there to begin with? It’s a tax break to a company that you’d never have got taxes from.
Riley Gaines on JRE # 2115 brought me here. THATS A MAN!!!
An out of shape overweight man without any muscle. And now he’s an elite athlete!
Same
I’m 100% convinced there’s a “CLAP” sign for the audience telling them when to clap
its also added sound fx … shows like this have like 20 crowd laughs they folly.
As someone who has been on a live studio audience, yes there is,
Men like Veronica should compete against other men like him…
.....other men like him
Look, I understand wanting to discuss this issue and trying to come to a solution that doesn’t put ANYONE down. But there’s no need for disrespecting someone, even if you don’t agree with them.
Super easy solution you would think.
@@shreyathapa4258 that will put some hair on her chest ha and yes biology is real and I don't care what you call some fake made up terms but feminist and women caused this
@@superfanboy1224 there is no not offending anyone and if I had a nickel every time I was out of milk and couldn't make more
This discussion is absolutely crazy. The physical differences between men and women cannot be ignored.
Democrats cannot even define what a woman is
Two absolute idiots having a conversation. The people who argue for this are not sports fans. An overwhelming degree of these people are liberals who have never had a child in any serious competitive sports league, and are surely not the parents of a girl who competes at a high level. It would be very easy to
topple this house of cards. See Dave Chappelle's Lebron joining the WNBA joke .
Give trans their own league, where nobody would even care enough to watch one event.
I swear these people didn’t take high school biology. This is crazy
It’s night and day !!! 😂
@Sunny Flour They did. Thats the issue with the left, they aren't grounded in reality and don't understand truth isn't subjective.
How is sport a human right? This is the dumbest proclamation ive ever heard
Yes, it isn’t a right. It’s a privilege. That dude is totally off his rocker!! lol
Among others...I have been watching trans activists 'debate' on YT with a goal of understanding their position, but only ended up getting mindf**ked.
Notice how they go to science when it suits them .
Policing who counts as a woman? Actually a woman has a definition, which is an adult human female.
Thank you that’s it’s ; that is not a female that’s a man dressed as a female and hey do wat you do but don’t try and make me see wat I can already see 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, Veronica claims to be a "real woman", so she should be allowed to compete in women's sports. But in reality, she is a "trans-woman." At a minimun, she has a man's skeleton. Competing against cis-women is so blatantly unfair, I can't believe she expects nobody to object. If she doesn't want to compete against men, then why not compete against other trans-women? As Noah said, in boxing they have many divisions, all based on weight, so why not add two more categories to all sports, namely the categories of trans-women and trans-men?
Please define "adult human female" i don't think you can
@@lankadominions959a homosapien born with female parts and over the age of 18.. what are you getting at? Are you special?
SHE said that SHE is a FEMALE 😂😂 but was born a man
This is so sick! I am liberal, but I become more and more drawn to conservative common sense.
I agree! Common sense is not conservative or liberal.. I definitely lean left but this mess is ridiculous.
@@tracyevettebarnes Sou. ds awesome. I almost never meet conservatives, leftist... who just agree to common sense, empirical realities. Would you like to chat, but i dont wanna be obtrusive. ( Am an economist, worked last years for ECB and now at big4. Just looking for seminal exchange. But there is no pressure or so......
I think the republicans and liberals switched values outside of the major core ones. My family who were all democrats never signed up for all of this woke nonsense and war mongering. Remember when being a liberal meant anti war and getting along with everyone and being judged by your character and not skin color? It’s all out of the window. You have this bonkers trans agenda, you have the really weird racist school program that teaches black and white are sworn enemies. The liberal elite had to rely on the extreme doctrine of a few bad actors because they thought it would keep them in power and now it’s ruining peoples lives and the democratic party and way of life. Who want’s to be apart of this crazy mess . Real liberal leaders need to create a new party get away from this insanity because no lifelong democrat wants to become a republican its just the sad truth. Instead these normal thinking well meaning democrats are being held hostage by the woke insane asylum.
And all of the lib fathers are being guilt tripped and gaslit by their daughters saying they just don’t get it and need to bow down and become punching bags and they get cucked into voting for actual racists like Biden. Every extreme progressive I know in SF think Biden was a piece of trash and they never wanted him. We thought he was the lesser evil but he’s just more of the same Bush policies. Give up on black voters once they get the vote and use taxpayer money to massacre people in other countries and fund war machines everywhere.
Same, this has become something different, it's no longer about making the world better for everyone it's now all about one agenda regardless of who it affects negatively. Being left is no longer what it was. Sad scary world
1984
If there was ever a batshit crazy discussion, this is it
🤣🤣this became so rampant on TH-cam since the DISLIKE button response isn't visible to see 🤣🤣
I prefer Caitlyn Jenner’s (aka Bruce Jenner) response: Absolutely NO! Trans men should not compete against women. She insists she is a biological man but identifies as a women.
I thought it was just me smh
"I can squat 375 because of my TRAINING".
Yeah. That and you used to be a man.
As for your body producing NO testosterone? Lolno. Thats not how it works.
U right about that...batshit...pure fuckery
What’s amazing is that a person FROM South Africa, of all places, would allow someone to compare that situation to racism, without correcting it or at the very least countering.
He's a hack, that's why.
Obama shouldn't have opened the flood gates. You let one joker smoke a cigarette in your garage and the next day there are needle caps on the floor and your kid's piggy bank is shattered and penniless.
Exactly. It just shows you how desperate they are that they would try to infuse race into the argument.. it's like in their minds it's "Oh no! People aren't siding with us anymore!.. Quick, sprinkle in some of that WHITE WOMEN ARE RACIST in there because we know that that is trendy lately!"
But people like Noah are OKAY with those racist narratives so of course he won't push back.
@@stevew2460the natives shouldn't have let whites in America. Whites should have stayed in urope.
A man who competed openly against women would be called a coward by other men .....
noah is a total weasel, too afraid to question a narcissist that is obviously mentally unwell
Yes, but at least he's not on this dude's side.
@@Nate-ob4pbMay as well be, if people aren't outright rejecting this delusion, it's only going to get worse, lol
@@Nate-ob4pboh but he is. He's just trying to look like he's challenging him but he never went all the way. He's just giving him opportunity to "debunk" people's objections.
@Nate-ob4pb Trevor is such a 🐈, but he needs to be right? I mean that's the job these people control the narrative so you can't really push back or else you get canceled, unless you're Joe Rogan with a huge platform behind him.
Yes, and more importantly, why didn't he have an expert with an opposing view there to debate? I love that this clip is going viral because it's waking up a lot of average people who have been in a coma about trans for far too long. But there are hundreds of experts who could have demolished this delusional creep in 2 minutes. Why were they not asked for their commentary?
I’m glad that even the daily show subscribers are calling this out.
Protect women’s sports.
Amen
Veronica says sports are a human right. But no one is trying to ban anyone from sports, or deny that right! It's an argument about the category, like weight class in boxing.
protect them from what unfairness?
competitive sports is based in unequal matchings that are still deemed safe as per sports regulations and rules that exist
transwomen fit that
@@amberharmsen2497 "competitive sports is based in unequal matchings that are still deemed safe as per sports regulations and rules that exist"
so why not allowing non handicaped people to the special olympics? why even bothering with women sports in general, if it is like you say not unfair that biological men with an advantage to their bodies compete with women?
@@dante6985 They want a space for the born female. The truth is born female athletes have no real change against trans.
This person needs to be checked into an institution
Watching Trevor stutter and take an opposing stance without stepping on anybodys toes is really painful
Trevor is nothing more than a weak person who values his status over truth.
It's called cowardice.
Puppet
I find it funny to watch Noah walk So carefully because he’s afraid of being cancelled by his own side
I don't think he's walking so carefully. I think it's probably that he doesn't really have much of his stake in this game. So he's just being respectful in general
@@zzzcocopepe naw he bias and scared.
Both sides have crazy issues… dems deny biology while repubs deny elections.
Because he is coward
He’s a sheep and afraid of the woke mob
He keep say confused that reaffirm that he really being confused by this confused boy
Became a women but still cannot understand what women have to go through!
Trevor was walking on a very fine line. He didn't want to get fired 😂😂😂😂😂 which pretty much proves a point. This is a bunch of BS
You've made a point...
Those who used to be bullied are slowly becoming the bullies themselves.
Ayyyyee! Toxic dating coach! You need a checkmark my guy. Thought you were a scam account for a second lol
It’s sad I already lost respect for him for not standing for truth
@@casusolivas the LGBT has so much power he probably could have lost his show for being honest
@@casusolivas me too apparently
The comment section has restored my faith in humanity. This trans woman said some very ridiculous things, but I’m comforted to see that people are seeing right through it.
But why is Trevor Noah pushing this nonsense on his audience?! It’s scary how all these mainstream outlets are pushing this as if most people agree on it!
Yup 😌 I realize that more people are standing up to the madness
What he said!!!
This is a man. He's not any kind of woman. No man is.
Sadly I agree and You know society is getting ridiculous when you have to turn to the TH-cam comment section for solace.
Ridiculous. Women’s rights will win. These men will stay biological men and should not be anywhere near women’s sports.
This is such an unconvincing argument. I consider myself pro trans in all aspects of society...except sport. I can't agree that sport is a human right, it's just not.
Agreed. The best way to make progress is to carve out a new space that you make marketable.
The best example is the UFC. They trained the women fighters, some of them, to appear to have larger than life adversarial attitudes that drum up interest in the female fights.
There should be leagues that are more loose with the boundaries that trans men, upper level women, and trans women can compete in and market it with interesting drama and political tension.
And keep the sanctity of women’s sports alone.
Sports isn’t national law, it’s an invention that is marketed to get people to pay.
The free market can do amazing things for equality. So create a unique show that combines the intrigue of cross gendered tensions. Interesting back stories. And make it marketable to the left and women who aren’t as into sports.. and pull some of the attention and dollars away from the other institutions.
That’s how you can win the respect and not turn it into a tyranny of the minority
Yes, Veronica claims to be a "real woman", so she should be allowed to compete in women's sports. But she is not a "real woman. She is a "trans-woman," so at a minimum, she has a man's skeleton. Competing against cis-women is so blatantly unfair, I can't believe she expects nobody to object. If she doesn't want to compete against men, then why not compete against other trans-women? As Noah said, in boxing they have many divisions, all based on weight, so why not add two more categories to all sports, namely the categories of trans-women and trans-men?
Thank you. I have been feeling lost in this debate because I really want to help people struggling with gender dysphoria feel less isolated, but also cannot look away from the physical advantage male puberty bestows in the arena or sports, women's shelters and other safe spaces. BTW, its not easy being a cis woman at this time....the extreme right took away our right to safe motherhood, and the far left is trying to take away safe spaces by negating our very biology. 🙄. Voices like yours give me hope.
Imagine being in the audience and applauding any of this
Now imagine you HAVE to do this, as someone that was once somewhat famous and was invited to a lot of shows, you HAVE to applaud loudly when the sign goes off (or when the show starts and ends) or else they have you take that segment again, and again and again (up to sixty times in my experience, and they only continued on because most of us, the audience, had left)
Otherwise nobody would have applauded that garbage
@@YuckFouTubeXWow, really? You've experienced this before? I mean it makes a lot of sense now that I think about it.
@@Silveryback No idea why TH-cam keeps deleting my replies, but yes it's normal worldwide, they also have a tiny sign above the audience which lits up with messages such as "Applause" "Boo!" or "Silence" etc
They also give away money to the "best reactions" in shows such as "America's Funniest Home Videos" which is the reason you see lots of audiences with exaggerated reactions
@@Silveryback Also yes I have been at both the audience and the stage, and in one show I told the Norwegian host that if he kept repeating the segment I would get up and leave the scene, he kept at it so I left and so did most of the audience
...Naturally they just showed me leaving in the edit so I sued them and won, they stopped showing me leaving and paid me about 250.000 dollars
Strangely enough, these things happen, like when a contestant in a reality show has a "Crazy laugh" they just play it over and over after the person say things like "I am not crazy, please take me seriously" *insert fake laughter* so that you think they are being rude, insensitive and generally insane
@@YuckFouTubeXwhy don’t they play fake applouse instead
“Stop policing” while they police language and opinions. Brilliant.
“Accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it to create confusion.”
- Karl Marx
Yes projecting, gaslighting, rules for thee but not for me also all part of this current administrations playbook.Maube this will teach a lesson to some that vote for this kind of stuff
Everything that is factual is transphobic to them.
💯 % fact
And acronyms
Every time I hear the word Cis-women, makes me irritated. I don’t want to be labeled by that word
Why?
@@user-jy2sj4ed4ibecause it's dumb and she doesn't want it? I thought we were being taught nor to force our opinions into others, why force her?
@@josephdee2839 Well in this instance it's not an opinion. It's a term. Terms have definitions. The opinion is that it's irritating and I'm curious as to why OP feels so strongly about it.
Cisgender was and is a term created by the transgender movement as an antonym to transgender
@@user-jy2sj4ed4ibecause now we are supposed to call biological women cis and trans women real women?
It’s actually pretty funny to listen to a MAN talk about how “Trans-women” competing against women is fair
The way she navigated her way to the conclusion that she's a biological woman is the most ridiculous and hilarious line of thought, I think I've ever heard in my entire life (and I've taught Kindergarten for 5 years)
You nailed it. And scared Trevor didn’t push back.
this is the basic of neo marxist contructivists: no making any sense but stating it as new common logic.
“I identify as a woman + I’m made of biological stuff = I am a biological woman”
🤦♀️
True, identifying yourself as a women, does not mean you are a biological women 🤦♀️
calling him she is also ridiculous
Trevor's studio audience was more worried about being canceled than he was.
😭😭😭😭
lol facts
They should just make a trans category so they don’t ruin women’s sports
they did. no one signed up.
Imagine being in a coma since 2010 and waking up in 2023 and the tv is playing this interview
Veronica really exercises her male privilege, by telling women they just need to change up their workout regimen. Veronica if you see this you're not a real woman.
'She' sure loves to mansplain - misogyny in heels.
Basically sounding like they took the easy way out for sports. It's sad
Exactly
Say it again for the ppl in the back Kyle
Right?! I've always been a little stronger than the average female but I've never been able to squat 350 and not sure I ever could without being a full fledged body builder.
Trevor is not countering this person he is normalizing insanity
TBH she's didn't answer the question directly
Period it’s his job he’s a tool
He’s a weak man
@@user-nh1lg7vg3g She started her very line of arguments with "I AM biologically a WOMAN!"
No she's not, her societal status is female, most of her hormonal function might be female at this point (arguably there are men with lots of estrogen too) but her body will never be biologically female
Also wrong how she argues that "men and women are essentially the same in physical build" while being a broad giant of a woman herself...
This is wrong... Let people live as what they want woman/man/umbrella/whatever, but when it comes to sports many trans women are simply built strong enough to beat women at any given physical challenge
He wants to but can't
Trevor: "No, i will not be cancel"
canceled
This would be a great video to add a laugh track to. lol
I am a physical therapist and i can garantee there is a difference in the body structure, muscle and strength
I don't know why people want to act like there are no differences
And I am NOT a physical therapist and I can also guarantee that there is a difference between biological men and biological women
I’m an average human being without advanced education in human biology or physiology. I don’t need it to come to the same conclusion.
This isn’t a slight towards you, just wanted to say that common sense and basic education is enough to understand this 😂
@chinqlinq89 no worries I get what u are saying, but that is because you actually have knowledge and use your brain... apparently for others commen sens is out lol
I agree! Especially if you have gone through puberty as a male. The muscle and bone structure, as well as oxygen, ability to create more rbc, is different. And I'm a Kinesiology major. This is crazy. There may need to be a Trans league. You don't see this same energy from Trans men. And no, I have nothing against Trans folks.
"I'm a biological female because I am not a cyborg and my ID says female". Wait, what? Is that supposed to be a real argument?
No, it's not.
Veronica was an unhappy man and then transitioned and became a "champion" and had some semblance of significance in her life so of course she thinks thats fair.
If you believe in Flat Earth
Boy please!
It's not the argument I would use. She's arguably more female than male given her hormone levels, body fat distribution, breast development, and so on.
“I made them put female on my passport so that means that I am, duh”
I disagree with person on the idea that there is not evidence that trans women don’t have an unfair advantage over biological women.
Cuz they are in fact biological MEN!
I love how everybody not agreeing is automatically transphobic.
That's 2022...they control the narrative and it's too late to turnback
It's not that people are disagreeing, it's a BIOLOGICAL FACT. You can't argue against something that's already a proven FACT. That's what they're doing, and a majority of people have issues with it. But for the fact that this person stated publicly that "I'm a biological female", speaks for itself about their status on what is real and what is not.
That's the game.
That's the game the left play. It's really a brilliant argument because you know if you accuse someone of being a racist or a transphobe you can ruin that person's life. So you use bullying and intimidation tactics to shut people up who don't agree with you, into keeping quiet about it and that's how the left wins all arguments. Someone who doesn't agree with you, just call them racist and/or transphobic and that's it, the left wins the argument because once you're labeled transphobic and/or racist, you will be "cancelled". It's really brilliantly played by the left. Just accuse someone of being the worst thing and that gets that person to shut up and accept what you want them to accept.
@@lambro4014 EXACTLY. that's why they're "cry-bullies"
Props to the intern who accidentally left comments open on this video, lol.
😂
I felt bad for Trevor for being a narrative puppet 😂
Man, I was thinking the same thing!🤣🤣🤣
so true
😂😂😂
The USA is so advanced that they have people with a spectrum of genders, instead of two (or five in modern medicine). People identify themselves as whatever they want. And addressing a person couldn't be harder. What a wonderland!!! Keep on doing this, please.
Anyone see the movie The Ringer? Johnny Knoxville competed in The Special Olympics even though he wasn’t disabled but was pretending to be. Who knew this comedy would become a reality.
If he seriously thinks he’s a biological woman, he needs a mental health evaluation immediately.
Dude even said he was a female.
He also stated that we don't know if there is an advantage for biological men against biological women in sports.. he used different words but the meaning is the same. I simply used the correct words.
@@Ernaldinho1993 Yep. That's exactly what he said, but Trevor didn't point it out. It's insane.
Trevor is being very carefull in using words .. thats a sign he deals with oppression
The biggest hindrance to real conversations on this topic is the insistence that disagreeing with pro-trans people or statements is invariably labeled as phobic. The clear objective is to shut down the conversation.
Exactly. I don’t think they even realise it.
The biggest hindrance in this particular topic is that the general perception of athletics is heavily biased through extremely surface level observations. The conversation pretty much ends with "Men and women are different!" without exploring any of the nuances of differing athletic body types, lack of data on trans women performance vs. women performance, over emphasis of physical characteristics that may or may not effect performative outcomes, lack of context, cherry picking hyper specific outcomes while ignoring more general outcomes, etc. There is a huge misunderstanding about athletic performance that is projected onto this topic by the general (non-athlete) population and it severely corrodes any productive back and forth regarding sensible solutions.
Because they know their reasoning behind it is flimsy at best. They can't back it up with medical facts so they resort to threats
@@stephenschaffenberger6765No 😂
@@stephenschaffenberger6765 I appreciate your scientific thoroughness. But if you’re a scientist or engineer, you’re probably also familiar with bounding a problem from a larger view before you start splitting hairs and get lost in the weeds. So on that note, if you take a professional men’s team in almost any sport, and put them against a professional women’s team of that same sport, and you are required to bet your house on it, who are you betting on?
There are few sports where women have the same maximum potential as men. Anything requiring unassisted peak strength or speed is going to the men. It’s not because of phobias or misogyny. It’s because of our DNA and the fundamental differences in how men and women evolved.
Who were the audience cheering and clapping this ???
You can see how afraid he is of saying something that might offend HIM tiptoeing his word. I cannot imagine living in a world like that and then have to face legal consequences
I cannot believe this is where we are as a society
Right? It's crazytown out there.
Our ancestors who fought for actual rights and freedoms would be turning in their graves.
exactly, it's blowing my mind that these audience member are clapping for this thing. It's a mental illness that we are pretending is a normal human behavior. Where were the trans people 1000 years ago? I will continue to be transphobic, and make fun of them.... They can't logically answer a question.
Land of confusion…
Western societies are a joke! 😂😂😂
When the entire claim is that you get to call yourself whatever you want, but you won’t respect women telling you not to call them “cis”.
It's not so fun when they're coming after you, is it?
@@ChristianPreterismwhat's your problem?
@@Smackhead.91304 You're obviously part of it.
Exactly!!!
If someone very explicitly, personally asks you to not call them cis, then yes it is reasonable to expect them to respect that, but as cisgender is the current medical terminology, it seems unreasonable to expect someone to refrain from calling you as such without specific request. And not only is it the acceptable medical nomenclature, but many cisgender people refer to themselves as such - I certainly do. Not is it an instance of reclaimed intragroup language, like certain slurs.
The craziest thing about this whole interview is he said “this is the biggest issue in America right now 🤯🤯🤯. Not homelessness, poverty, racism, illegal migration, but THIS is the biggest issue in America.
He had to tiptoe through this entire interview. Probably worried about the consequences of 'offending' an individual who's entire life revolves around looking to be offended.
"Do you actually think that trans women are real women ... or not?"
My answer is: "definitely not".
There.
Do you believe that Jesus Christ died for your sins? That’s what this sounds like. This is definitely a religion
@@unpopularopinionpodcast24 Before we can establish whether or not someone named Jesus died for my sins, can we first prove that this supposed Jesus existed?
They hate it when women tell them they are not the same. They are not women and identify as such is a privilege not a right. Women are tired of being taken advantage of from misogynistic trans women.
@@someguy5334yes. There is overwhelming evidence that he existed. Scholars unanimously agree that he existed.
@@Dogshow9000 "Scholars unanimously agree" huh?
That's a clear appeal to authority fallacy. "The experts agree" is not an actual argument. Do better.
You claim that there is "overwhelming evidence", so point to it. Give us this supposed "evidence".
The problem is: there is none.
There is not one single contemporary account of your supposed "Jesus Christ".
If you can point me to a historic account of Jesus that is not written almost a century after he supposedly lived, I will be amazed.
Lol, you can actually tell that Trevor does not agree with what she's saying but he's scared to challenge her because he doesn't wanna get cancelled.
EDIT: *he, *him 😚
Or beat up
The whole time😂
Perception is everything. is it not?
And that’s the problem with America today, we fold to the trans community not because they’re right but because we fear of what’s to come from challenging them….. sad truth
@@Tr1pleOseveN Well I don't know about all of that, I think that we fold to whatever we want to fold to. Truth is that you haven't folded to the transgender community cause you just pointed it out right? 🤷♀️
we’ve always had cheaters. Now they just look different
This is insane and I’m glad I’m almost 50 and not 20 cause putting up with this for the next 100 years sounds insane
I'm made of "biological stuff" so I am a biological elephant.
I feel elephantastic!
Elephobe!
Yeah that's p pretty much the logic here isn't it
Like Piers Morgan is a biological two-spirited penguin! Love it.
🥶😂😂👏👏👏👏
I think she danced a lot around the answers, basically saying over and over again "If you don't 100% agree with me you are transphobe". I believe this is a very toxic mindset to have.
Edit: I don't appreciate how this comment gathered a lot of transphobic replays... For all them: You have more in common with Veronica than you realize, she picks and choose from science as she pleases ignoring the fact that equal doesn't mean same and we don't have the technology for a full biological transition. And you are ignoring years of history of trans people and countless studies that that proof their existence. Only thing you can do as a fellow human being, just show a little bit of compassion it cost you nothing.
Welcome to trying to have any logical discussion. Emotions and feelings end up taking precedence.
Very true...u get it too!!, i thought i was the only one
People that rarely smile or frown a lot of a particular lip shape, and she had that shape.
Yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking some questions were yes or no questions
It is indeed toxic. To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. To a mind looking for offense, everything will offend.
DEAR TRANS COMMUNITY, DONT TELL ME I HAVE TO ACCEPT YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE WHEN YOU COULDN'T ACCEPT YOURSELF FOR WHO YOU WERE!
Thank you!!!
seriously...
Exactly
Oh! Yeah I accept myself actually. I accept that I was born a certain gender, have those chromosomes, and fit into that box for awhile. But I can also acknowledge the fact that I was not happy, and now I am much more so. I know what I was born as but I'm happier where I am :] you can call me whatever gender you please idc
Amen! I love how their argument is always. “Why is gender such a big deal to you, it doesn’t even matter”
Well if it doesn’t matter, why are you trying to change yours?
Is this a serious interview or satire? It’s hard to tell nowadays.
Its not just testosterone that distinguishes the physical makeup of men and women. According to her logic, women and men should just all play sports together across the board.
The fact that this person claims to be biologically female, based on being "made of biological stuff" should tell you all you need to know about the "seriousness" of this conversation. The fact that someone as smart as Trevor nods along in agreement while the crowd cheers it on is truly wild to watch.
As a South African who followed Trevor well before he was known world wide. It's disappointing that he no longer has the courage to speak his mind regardless of the potential backlash.
I'm convinced that they had an "Applaud" now sign.
Trevor us actually an idiot
it's a show and we all know it.
In that case, I am organic material therefore I identify as a Bengal tiger.
People are tired of being gaslit for not succumbing to their alternate reality and being called transphobic for questioning the narrative.
PREACH
Amen
Absolutely. Because they’ll trash even the most well-meaning, benign people over the smallest perceived offense. They’re not winning people over to their cause.
@@kirielizabeth9098 Indeed, it's hard to say anything. Maybe those who were strong enough to call kneeling athletes out can step up again.
@@billwillson890 With all due respect but that's little too much bigotry. I neither buy that you feel offended nor that you perceive it as hate speech. You shouldn't call a human being - that is obviously able to challenge on this issue you - a "Thing" and complain about offensive terminologies at the same time. I'm not a transgender btw and even if I was who gives a fk🤷🏿
My Diesel identifies as a Hybrid. Gas Pump ⛽ don't give a flying f_ _k!
Let Trans women compete against other trans women. Normally do not see a women transition to man and compete against man, because they will not have an advantage.
Pains me to see Trevor terrified to speak his mind. We need to push this crazy ideology, as fast as we can.
I felt that too, but he has a bigger purpose and showed t. I would like a revisit of this with the unleashed Trevor, however.
Trevor was paid very well for peddling this BS. It’s his job. TG he is gone.
Trevor is waaaaay smarter than this. Way smarter.
Trevor is a woke soy, so im not supriced.
Your delusional. He is not terrified, he is a woke sale out that has no spine.
"Please ignore all science to make my gender disphoria true." Is all I hear. The amount of bs spewed from this is staggering.
I’m appalled at the number of people calling this man a she.
That’s where it all went wrong. Language matters. We let the floodgates open when we went that far. This is never going away and I have no problem being called a transphobic to stand for women and the truth.
Women failed to regulate the alphabet community. Now men have to second guess women.
@@jestinrobinson5115 Yes, it is a manipulation of language for sure.
In some sports this makes sense. Many ninja warrior females are able to perform with men and stil place very high. When it comes to weight lifting and sprint speed sports, there are no elite women who can compete against elite men.
Why do they never ask the question “what is a woman/female”
I like how she turned the question about how it is unfair to compete with the advantage of being a born a man into.... oh I am biological.... And to deny that there is no proof that a man has an advantage is just asinine!!
Sport as a human right? Yeah, give us healthcare and housing and food and water. I can live without sports just fine- seems like a privilege
Healthcare and housing aren’t human rights either.
The men competing in women sports are interfering with the womens right to play sports anyways
@@Ryan-rc3kq not in the US (because the USA is so great)
but in The Universal Declaration of Human Rights they indeed are
@@yaddar So odd considering that health care is literally the product of another human being's effort. I guess slavery is back en vogue.
(White) Trans-women seem to be just as entitled as white men, so weird.....
Call me transphobic If you may, but I didn't find her arguments compelling enough. Not too many of them landed on solid ground. But that's just me.
My sincere and unbiased opinion.
You're not
Logic escapes these people.
You're not wrong my brother
It's all cool to have a trans sport competition, just don't authorize trans "male" athletes to compete in fight sports like MMA with the women's, because it already happened and it's disgusting. So it's cool if it happens in basketball and stuff but not in dangerous sports please 🙏
Let's be Honest We knew it
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All I can say is you reap what you sow. You could give them everything they ask for and they would still find a reason to call you hateful and fearful of them. They are consumed by an insatiable idea. So many social movements have made gains yet they still find more and more injustices and only get angrier and angrier. I refuse to agree with these ideas on the basis of not allowing my mind to be poisoned by ideas that will leave me just as angry and unsatisfied as those professing them.
It’s not trans phobic to say that trans women are not actually women.
They are human they can identify whatever way that they want to. They are deserving of respect and kindness.
But if they were actually women that they wouldn’t need a surgery to make them a woman. They wouldn’t need drugs.
Call me crazy, but I grew up in a day and age where body positivity actually was promoted
ive never seen trevor trying so hard to not get canceled. such a shame to back down so easily as someone who stood up in front of many other stuff.
Well his job is at stake and there’s few things that you’re just not allowed to have back push on. He’s being smart. If you’re job was on the line would you risk it for an argument that doesn’t affect you?
@@jmoe5090when people like him stay silent, it just gives more power to the madness. not smart in a long run. just look at the other comedians and what happened to them. they got canceled from some companies, and making more money from other companies. dont think thats too bad for someone who wants to defend his own ideology. if all of them would've been "smart", those people could take over the whole social media. im just wondering how people in first world countries with freedom of speech are acting like third world countries and are afraid to talk about specific things
i think he's a democrat that's why
@jmoe5090 The madness of transgenderism affects everyone. These people want to completely re-structure society around their lunacy. They want men to have access to women's locker rooms and prisons. There are, at this moment, male rapists being housed in women's prisons. Every single person with common sense has a duty to speak out against these lies and tell the truth.
There is no excuse to sit back and claim "oh it doesn't affect me." This is a critical battle that is determining whether society will be structured around truth and reason, or whether it will be structured around lies. If trans activists continue to be allowed to shape the culture and society, it will not be long before every US citizen will be compelled to lie and pretend that men are women, under penalty of law.
Our children's future depends on normal people being brave and speaking the truth at every opportunity. Cowardice and compromising with trans activists will get us no where.
DO NOT BE INTIMIDATED. Everyone please, grow a spine and start confidently calling out this madness for what it is.
@@divivinelisten to his opinions after he left the Daily show. This show is pro-democratic. Even if he doesn't accept a particular ideology he still can't say it out loud when he is working for an organization like this. He treaded very carefully while questioning her. He didn't support her, he posed all sorts of questions going around and watched her while she continued to make one ridiculous statement after another.
“I’m pretty sure I’m made of biological stuff, so I’m a biological female as well” what 😭
Who can argue with logic like that? 🤣
@@silaslizzie43 Who would want to.
That was WILD
Like what 😮
I got a masters in biology. She taught me way more about biology than a decade of education.
Well make a third category of sports...
Trans+Sport
Transport😂
If Mike Tyson suddenly decides he is a women and then decides he wants to go back to boxing, only he wants to compete in women’s boxing, wouldn’t that be so endearing?
We live in some very odd times. The fact that people are actually clapping for this insanity blows my mind.
I find it way more shocking that people clapped Trump when he said "You're disgusting" to the CNN moderator at the recent town hall.
@oumun not sure what Trump has to do with my comment but okay. I'm not even a Trump supporter.
@@locutus2962 I was just elaborating on the idea of how strange is the world we live in.
@@oumun Far Lefties do with their usual Trump Derangement Syndrome. She was disgusting and so are you with your need to bring in the trump bogeyman to divert from a systemic issue
@@oumun The fact that you think imposing men on women's sports less strange than Trump's retort taken out of context speaks volumes of how much of a far leftie you are. Stop exploiting TDS to normalize Transgenderist Misogyny
The episode that everyone I knew that watched this show stopped pretending it wasnt as big of an echo-chamber and biased as Fox News.
“‘I was born with a Richard, so I’m a women !” 😂
this audience will literally clap for anything
Seals.
@@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 sheep
Have you not seen studio audiences before? They have people nonverbally indicate when to clap and cheer. That's true of any show with one, doesn't matter what they're saying or what their bias is.
@@callumjohnston858 lol yes, reminds me of those palace scene in Shrek. "Laugh", "Cry", "Applause", "Aww" lol.
@@jaqenhghar2970 Like I said, it's a common industry thing, there's usually a briefing beforehand, some enthusiastic guy waves for a reaction, it's more to convey a unified reaction than necessarily fabricate one. Some shows don't have them, so I could be wrong in this instance, it's just been my experience of comedy talk shows in general.
Fairness in sports is also a human right!! No biological female athlete should have to compete against a biological male athlete.
Exactly why trans folks belong in sports!
Then let her/him their own competition not into women’s competition
Yeah...To sport is human right, to medal is not....
Why have woman sports if there is no differences between male and female...
If they want to include transwomen into women sports then should stop seperating sports let all of them compete in one catagory
lol not its not...its all production design from television and schools etc lol human rights ..ok/...
You are free to beleive whatever you feel or think about yourself...but others have no obligation to agree with you...or fullfill your demands
I came here to see how many normal people are in the comments…
Literally was like watching a scene from Idiocracy.
Even President Camacho would not allow this
Well drug companies,Drs, hospitals and insurance companies are totally on board with this re assignment surgery (AKA money Maker for life from each patient) .
Drug makers get the hormone pill benefits each month for life, unless they warn the men not to take them after the age of 50 which increases the risk of cancer .
Kudos to them keeping the comment section open.
I'm amazed by how much pushback I'm seeing in the comments!!! Really impressive that they let the debate happen... Which is sad and terrifying
More comments means more engagement for social media algorithms
I’m surprised, considering how united this comments section is. Maybe it’s because almost no one is misgendering Veronica, so it’s technically “civil”?
Considering the current ratio is 3.6k-10k that might not last very long.
@@GrAdeAjAmAicAn 3.6k likes to 153k views...
Imagine being able to say you're something you're factually not but wholeheartedly expecting support from the masses in that belief.
Why are we expected to accept their "new" identity when they weren't able to accept their born identity?
This ONLY hurts REAL WOMEN!! You don't hear mens sports complaining because no "woman" can transform and beat "real man".... FACTS!!!
That is categorically untrue. Women athletes beat "men" all the time. Let's examine the popular example that is pointed to on this topic about the perceived trans women advantage: Lia Thomas. First, Katie LeDecky (a natural born woman) currently holds a time that is about 10 seconds faster than Lia Thomas in the 500 free. That's a fairly significant gap in distance freestyle. Furthermore, for as much as news media covers the event that Thomas won at the NCAA championship, they completely ignore the events she did not win. She placed 8th in the 100 freestyle in the final race of her collegiate career, meaning she was beat by 7 women. Next, the self proclaimed "Fastest girl in Connecticut" Chelsea Mitchell became famous when she sued the state because she lost a race to a trans girl. What media completely ignored is the fact that she won a race against a trans girl 2 days later. For nearly every example that is pointed to as unfair, there is an example (often with the same athlete!) to illustrate the opposite of that point.
They don’t gaf about real women
@stephenschaffenberger6765 would you be willing to bet women beat men in sports more than 25% of the time? And I mean specifically above the age of 15
@LouisTeaEnjoyer😂😂😂😂😂
@LouisTeaEnjoyer You're citing a specific example and using that to make a larger claim about athletics as a whole. Wouldn't it be more instructive from an analytics perspective to match the women's team against 25 different high school boys teams and sort the data there after? That seems far more scientific. Better yet, why not run this experiment hundreds of times? Wouldn't that give us more definitive data? Why cherry pick to prove a point that you feel is a priori? Also, what was the context of this match? It was prior to the women's team facing off against Russia, so do you think that the women's team went all out? Is there any possibility they held back to avoid injury before a match that actually meant something? Why would they risk injury for a concession game that they could care less about?
As Dave Chappelle pointed out, If Lebron James transitioned and then joined the WNBA, Lebron would score 200 points a game. If Novak Djokavic transitioned and then started playing female tennis players, Novak would never lose a game. Why can't we just be honest about the reality of this situation?
@@AKoooooooo Lol, you take yours from Trevor? Another rich comic?
Because they want to shove it down our throat even though it’s not based in reality. Double speak
I believe Chappelle said 800 points a game lol
That's skill has nothing to do with gender. He also doesn't know what he's talking about
Alright, if that's all so easy, you should have no problem beating women in sports after sticking to the regulations for trans women, right?