Fouad did not say black builders are not strong. He said they tend to train higher volume whereas white guys tend to do more Dorian style low volume training. Hes got a raging hard on for Ronnie, he doesn’t think black bbs aren’t strong. The telephone game strikes again.
I don’t think Fouad was talking about strength so much. He was more talking about training styles. Guys like Haney, Dex, Phil and Rhoden were probably strong but trained more pump style. That’s 4 Mr Olympias that prove his point.
Anyone with a brain who watched fouads podcast knows he wasn’t saying “black ppl aren’t strong” he was saying that most black ppl train higher volume or heavy weight high volume, can you imagine how stupid you would be to say that black ppl aren’t strong? That’s insane
Chris got it wrong Fouad didn’t say black people weren’t strong. He said in bodybuilding black athletes in majority train higher volume and white athletes trained heavier low volume. It’s all context.
Some watch these guys for the entertainment. The guys have great characters, they're quite entertaining. If you don't like it, don't watch it, it's really that simple 👍🏾 You have a great day and focus your energy into a different space
i love these roundtables that i can watch it 10 hours non stop :)) these roundtables combination is diamond .having kevin Levrone at the guest spot would be something out of this world. keep going guys the bodybuilding fan community really needs and enjoy this
Boy Chris you really missed the mark on what Fouad said on his podcast, you obviously didnt watch it, or care to comprehend what was said. Im black and a national level bodybuilder, and nothing Fouad said was saying black bodybuilders are not strong, he said he doesnt know any of the top of the head that are low volume, high intensity(like Dorian). Be better.
I agree with you Milo's. You put Labradas body of work of routines together I think he has the best choreographed routines to music Transitions and everything. Melvin was definitely the most entertaining for pumping you up, but Labrada was always in better condition from top to bottom front to back.
Another beauty, Dennis. Your regulars - the original “Raw Deal” & Milos were great as usual. Fantastic to have Johnny Jackson on He certainly has the wealth of experience & is very “spot on” in his conclusions on aspects of competitive bodybuilding. Very entertaining … lots of laughs For “old school bodybuilders” like me Keep up the great work Cheers from Sydney, Australia! Paul
At 1:06, Dennis said that the dark black body builders should use a shit load of Pro Tan to “lighten up” in order for the separation to show? How does that work? I don't understand how that would work??? Somewhere please explain?
Some of the tanning creams or lotions are actually lighter then some of the dark dark skin tones. So when layering it on it will cover like it does to make lighter skin tones darker and when doing that it will make darker tones lighter. You definitely have to be pretty dark to make a difference.
@@megansingel2208 Thanks Megan ! Makes sense, thanks for the explanation, that would actually make a great video maybe Milos can talk to Samson because I think he uses this technique.
I was in San Francisco 2001 with Chris Cormier and did Craig Titus meal prep. I just cooked his meals. He would pay me 500$. I live on Fresno drove up to San Francisco w my microwave and Foreman grill and all. Chris would go clubbing all night, play PS2, go to the mall, eat Cocoa Puffs np milk and came to our room and looked unbelievable. Was crazy. Chris could have been Mr Olympia or better than Flex Wheeler. He could been Arnold winner and fought Ronnie. If you knew how much FUN Chris would have. Love Chris like a brother and proud of him now. He's doing so good after bodybuilding.
Two things…. I once watched a Johnnie Jackson on a podcast and swore I never would again, well I did it and it reminded me why I originally said that. Never again. Interrupting, rambling, making no sense, etc…. Dancing is not posing. Posing is posing. Lee Labrada by a mile.
DJ, could you please just get Shawn Ray on the podcast just once? He deserves a chance to redeem himself and it would be such an interesting/amazing podcast with you 4 legends talking past/present bodybuilding.
@@Think_Carefully_Please he is also far too negative and always referring back to 90s when he was doing the commentary. Don't think he can change at his age. Just my opinion
I have a feeling Chris had a preview of Andrew physique hence why he smiled when John and Dennis placed Andrew at 5th. He knows something they don't know.
we came to an era where u can't mention color, fouad actually said it in a good way, he said black bodybuilders he knows train high volume moderate weights and it's smarter for longevity, wth is wrong with saying that? .
When you look at Titus and the King it shows how bodybuilding has transformed. They were smaller then and look like national level guys now. Just proves that besides the top dogs the other pros weren’t nearly as big or as conditioned.
wow dj i think milos ha,s met his match in johnny tony just about summed milos up when he said youv,e got to remember with the serbians arguing is a national sport. oh man you got to get johnny on again this wa,s one of the best podcasts iv,e watched.
Its hard to watch prediction videos with so much wishy washy and back and forth. Dennis is really the only one who actually makes predictions without a lot of what ifs.
I’m so confused on the damn placings at the end 😂 Dennis kept yelling at Milo’s to make a prediction on the show but NOT make a prediction based on the judges placings….??? Isn’t that what predicting these shows is? Predicting placings …. Based on how the judges will place them…
lol...aha! I've been only doing it in EVERY continent, EVERY country, and EVERY gym I go to... I was kicked out of ONE GYM - 😉 Come watch me train anytime...
Fouad wasn’t saying that black ppl aren’t strong, he was saying that they generally train higher volume or higher volume heavy weight, he’s not racist, I watch his podcast all the time, they joke on everyone
First thing i seen him was a video about how cypianate doesnt raise blood pressure like enanthate..?????derek was schooling us in a video...man he used to look tremendous!!!!!
dennis, ich verstehe nicht warum ihr euch immer so dermaßen anscheisst wenn es um die angabe der top platzierungen geht, das ist doch alles nur ne vermutung also sagt einfach gerade aus was ihr euch denkt!!!WTF
@Milos Sarcev it's an honor to reply to you. Before all, I respect you and your opinion and watch everything you are on. However, although your view judging is understandable, you argue your view with everyone, seemingly dismissing their views as you are right. I feel your most proactive conversation was with Haney on his Podcast. If Displaying the physique in a routine does not change the placings then I agree that if it isn't counted, then it should be a part of the show . But the competitor has his chance to show his trademark pose in the free posing round. I personally feel 90s bodybuilding was and still is the gold standard but much like other sports the athlete evolves and no matter what our views or yours that will not change. Thanks for all you do for the sport, I'm a huge fan.
@Milos Sarcev I'm saying I don't entirely disagree with your view. However, it seems that when someone disagrees with you, you argue your point, not respecting the other person's opinion (expect when you were on Rombods podcast). Personally, I feel calling the Mr. Olympia, Mr. 5 mandatory poses is disrespectful to the winner. I also agree that the 90s is the goldstandard of bodybuilding, but like all sports bodybuilding has and will continue to evolve. The athlete has the opportunity to present their poses in the free posesing round, that to me would include thier singuture pose to present thier physique the best they can. Thank you again for indulging me with this point.
I think Milos is tight with his points but he has to let it go lol. It ain't gonna change and he says the same thing every time. I wish there was more chat about anabolics
people that think or don't think they can change something are both right... I'll stick with my belief and keep repeating it until I am heard...Many are listening, not too many hear me and think about what I am saying... Letting go is for underachievers and losers...🤫
@@MilosSarcevOfficialTH-camPage that's cool I respect that. Thanks for the reply, just so you know, both yourself and Jay Cutler are my favourite personality's to listen to. Keep doing what you're doing the fans love it
Age is just a number all of you cats can get back into shape .56 Pro Natty still Competing having fun. Milo Get back into the Temecula shape if you could do it
Craig Titus was just not all there. He was a good dude if you were his friend. Chris Cormier and Craig trained hard together. Kelly was like my sister. Exactly right like Chris said Kelly was a Angel. Craig messed her up.
I agree with Milos on the posing round, but if I have to hear 1 MORE SECOND about it I’m going to lose my MIND. Milos just repeats himself over and over again with the same exact debate. Come up with new material PLEASE!
If you talk about specific subject - you tend to repeat your opinion. Isn't that how it works? As you see - I am yet to convince anyone....even though I think I am crystal clear and everything is point-blank obvious. You seem to agree....but nobody else does. So, you should help me out and not try to shut me up! Make some sense to them...as I probably don't use the right words!
That whole Fouad thing was blown out of proportion he was saying it in comparison to dexter and Phil bout bubbly looks and not having to push heavy
Chris needs to give a formal apology for getting it totally wrong. There's too much of this calling everything racist that isn't.
Fouad did not say black builders are not strong. He said they tend to train higher volume whereas white guys tend to do more Dorian style low volume training. Hes got a raging hard on for Ronnie, he doesn’t think black bbs aren’t strong. The telephone game strikes again.
I don’t think Fouad was talking about strength so much. He was more talking about training styles. Guys like Haney, Dex, Phil and Rhoden were probably strong but trained more pump style. That’s 4 Mr Olympias that prove his point.
Agree!!!
Chris reaching for the stars lol
Anyone with a brain who watched fouads podcast knows he wasn’t saying “black ppl aren’t strong” he was saying that most black ppl train higher volume or heavy weight high volume, can you imagine how stupid you would be to say that black ppl aren’t strong? That’s insane
Chris got it wrong Fouad didn’t say black people weren’t strong. He said in bodybuilding black athletes in majority train higher volume and white athletes trained heavier low volume. It’s all context.
Has quickly become my favorite podcast. Not just bb'ing, fave of all podcasts! Great job DJ
Would love to see Fouad on with Chris Dennis and Milos
Fouads not a racist, he said black ppl generally do higher volume or high volume heavy weight not that they aren’t strong lol
@@willthomas7666 I don’t think he’s a racist at all. I’m just saying I’d love to see a podcast with them 4 discussing body building in general
Milos was surprisingly subdued this episode. MORE MILOS !!
Awesome to finally see Johnnie O Jackson on a podcast. Legend 💪🏾😎👊🏽
Some watch these guys for the entertainment. The guys have great characters, they're quite entertaining.
If you don't like it, don't watch it, it's really that simple 👍🏾
You have a great day and focus your energy into a different space
Imagine wasting youre time in this comment section 🤯
@MdoubleHB 😂😂😂🤡
i love these roundtables that i can watch it 10 hours non stop :)) these roundtables combination is diamond .having kevin Levrone at the guest spot would be something out of this world. keep going guys the bodybuilding fan community really needs and enjoy this
Also, Fouad didn’t say what Chris stated. It was rather embellished.
Boy Chris you really missed the mark on what Fouad said on his podcast, you obviously didnt watch it, or care to comprehend what was said. Im black and a national level bodybuilder, and nothing Fouad said was saying black bodybuilders are not strong, he said he doesnt know any of the top of the head that are low volume, high intensity(like Dorian). Be better.
he was actually saying it in a good way that black bodybuilders workout style is better for longevity and smarter and he gave samson as example
Everyday i search for Dennis Milos and Chris best podcast out there good to see Johnnie on.
When you guys opened up, you were talking about vision . I had great vision and no problems til I used Clomid , after that things got blurry.
I agree with you Milo's. You put Labradas body of work of routines together I think he has the best choreographed routines to music Transitions and everything. Melvin was definitely the most entertaining for pumping you up, but Labrada was always in better condition from top to bottom front to back.
Ramy’s 2013 physique was not only big but pretty too.
@MdoubleHB 8a
Another beauty, Dennis.
Your regulars - the original “Raw Deal” & Milos were great as usual.
Fantastic to have Johnny Jackson on
He certainly has the wealth of experience & is very “spot on” in his conclusions on aspects of competitive bodybuilding.
Very entertaining … lots of laughs
For “old school bodybuilders” like me
Keep up the great work
Cheers from Sydney, Australia!
Paul
good to see J.J. again... always so positive and energised.. question.. why is melvin not on the podcast, he is sitting next to Dennis, right?
Great ,Dennis has added a new podcast . I have something to listen to on the way to work .
At 1:06, Dennis said that the dark black body builders should use a shit load of Pro Tan to “lighten up” in order for the separation to show? How does that work? I don't understand how that would work??? Somewhere please explain?
Some of the tanning creams or lotions are actually lighter then some of the dark dark skin tones. So when layering it on it will cover like it does to make lighter skin tones darker and when doing that it will make darker tones lighter. You definitely have to be pretty dark to make a difference.
@@megansingel2208 Thanks Megan ! Makes sense, thanks for the explanation, that would actually make a great video maybe Milos can talk to Samson because I think he uses this technique.
One of the most rowdy podcasts ever😂😂✊✊ love looking at your stuff👌💪
Thank you guys for ur time
Can any of you guys explain what the knot on the left frontal knee area is that Ramey and Bonac both have?
Jonnie knows his stuff
The Arnold placings will all come down to 1 thing-do they go for mass or aestetics
I was in San Francisco 2001 with Chris Cormier and did Craig Titus meal prep. I just cooked his meals. He would pay me 500$. I live on Fresno drove up to San Francisco w my microwave and Foreman grill and all. Chris would go clubbing all night, play PS2, go to the mall, eat Cocoa Puffs np milk and came to our room and looked unbelievable. Was crazy. Chris could have been Mr Olympia or better than Flex Wheeler. He could been Arnold winner and fought Ronnie. If you knew how much FUN Chris would have. Love Chris like a brother and proud of him now. He's doing so good after bodybuilding.
Art Atwood had a Huge Back, definitely one of the best backs ever..... HUGE dude "RIP"
I love Sunday afternoons
Two things…. I once watched a Johnnie Jackson on a podcast and swore I never would again, well I did it and it reminded me why I originally said that. Never again. Interrupting, rambling, making no sense, etc…. Dancing is not posing. Posing is posing. Lee Labrada by a mile.
amen, became painful in the end... DJ needs to moderate it with the mute button
J.O.J is a Legend
DJ, could you please just get Shawn Ray on the podcast just once?
He deserves a chance to redeem himself and it would be such an interesting/amazing podcast with you 4 legends talking past/present bodybuilding.
He's extremely unlikeable, none of the guys on this podcast like him
@@kvp6268 umm Milos and Cormier both said they want him on… Chris has been friends with him since they were kids…
Didn't you see that awful post of Shawn ray from last week?
@@levon8262 people aren’t allowed to have opinions? He is just trying to protect people from dying. Shawn has never killed anyone
@@Think_Carefully_Please he is also far too negative and always referring back to 90s when he was doing the commentary. Don't think he can change at his age. Just my opinion
Great show. As usual.
Next guest needs to be Fouad or Shawn Ray.
Don’t know why every other iconic bodybuilder has been on the podcast except for Shawn
I am all for it
chris, dont put words on fouads mouth, you are just trying to make him look bad
I have a feeling Chris had a preview of Andrew physique hence why he smiled when John and Dennis placed Andrew at 5th. He knows something they don't know.
No offense but when you bring shan-wei on the podcast that one that will not watch
Another fantastic episode DJ. Needed a pre show pep talk about not talking over others as much. Hit the mute button when needed 😂
make classic get rid of weight cap and the huge pretty phyics can compete their
By far the best podcast on bodybuilding/shaping with great information and lots of fun thrown into the mix
we came to an era where u can't mention color, fouad actually said it in a good way, he said black bodybuilders he knows train high volume moderate weights and it's smarter for longevity, wth is wrong with saying that? .
Nothing unless you're brainwashed.
Chris has a pink thong on. He lost his hearing aid and vision. My man is as sensitive as a little girl.
When you look at Titus and the King it shows how bodybuilding has transformed. They were smaller then and look like national level guys now. Just proves that besides the top dogs the other pros weren’t nearly as big or as conditioned.
Is that a Canadian acxent??
But where did Melvin Anthony learnt it from ?
John Brown
@@MilosSarcevOfficialTH-camPage I was hoping one of the others were gonna answer cause they never give him credit.
Is it muscle building or bodybuilding?
There ate some many old school bodybuilders that I looked up in the past.johnnie is one of them...👑
1:29:33 sorry Dennis but Jesus I thought we were being serious here. Ramy first? No disrespect to him either. But with how things are rolling rn..
wow dj i think milos ha,s met his match in johnny tony just about summed milos up when he said youv,e got to remember with the serbians arguing is a national sport. oh man you got to get johnny on again this wa,s one of the best podcasts iv,e watched.
lol...Serbian National Sport 😂
So I am excused...
Jackson is hilarious!!!!. More of him please
Chris cormier at 1:32:43 😂😂 Let me hear it then 😂😂😂
Timestamp 46.04 is wrong because Fouad didn't say that.
Mr. Olympia Lee Haney eight-time he is the best ever Olympia from me that's my opinion
Robbie Robinson in Madison square garden I could not see him the Black curtain blocked him out
Its hard to watch prediction videos with so much wishy washy and back and forth.
Dennis is really the only one who actually makes predictions without a lot of what ifs.
In bodybuilding there is no such thing as best what is your taste in style and that's what makes it such a great sport
Hi to Johnnie's client!!! You go, girl!
Great podcast as always 💪💪
@MdoubleHB I guess you need some for your mental health
Kamali gonna do it, is Titus too?
I’m so confused on the damn placings at the end 😂 Dennis kept yelling at Milo’s to make a prediction on the show but NOT make a prediction based on the judges placings….??? Isn’t that what predicting these shows is? Predicting placings …. Based on how the judges will place them…
Samson blue black
I got to see JOJ win his national title! Great stuff! Great guy!💪🏽
That protan ad needs to go I have ptsd from the iPhone alarm sound 😅
Dennis and Milos walk around with spoons just to sturr shit up!!
The difference is Dennis pulls back and Milos just keeps on going. Funny Shit!!!
🥄
Milos is a classic bodybuilder by heart that's his style that's what he likes and that's okay other people can have their opinions too
Johnny running his old head mouth , Andrew placed higher then u ever will or had in your career n he did it in his first Olympia carry on old head
We need Johnnie and Branch together
Don’t ask Johnny. Shit killed me
Hulk ,Superman ,
Batman , Spider-Man
Batman Physique is Best
I trust that the accusations made against Fouad will be fixed on the next show. That really wasn't fair on him OR Samson.
Milos isn't allowed to do giant sets anymore. He's been kicked out of so many gyms for camping and hogging to much equipment.
lol...aha!
I've been only doing it in EVERY continent, EVERY country, and EVERY gym I go to...
I was kicked out of ONE GYM - 😉
Come watch me train anytime...
Milo is very clever, I like the fact that he didn't argue with Dennis. Dennis is delusional and the Arnold will prove this.
Over 80 pro shows that's amazing accomplishment. Today's pros that would take 40 years. Bunk stash
Fouad wasn’t saying that black ppl aren’t strong, he was saying that they generally train higher volume or higher volume heavy weight, he’s not racist, I watch his podcast all the time, they joke on everyone
First thing i seen him was a video about how cypianate doesnt raise blood pressure like enanthate..?????derek was schooling us in a video...man he used to look tremendous!!!!!
Hahaha Chris said he was 3cc away from the win💀💀💀😝
dennis, ich verstehe nicht warum ihr euch immer so dermaßen anscheisst wenn es um die angabe der top platzierungen geht, das ist doch alles nur ne vermutung also sagt einfach gerade aus was ihr euch denkt!!!WTF
Best poser ever! Ed Corney.
Johnny O was not a good poser or a good bodybuilder sorry
Get melvin a mic.!!
Why can't anyone disagree with Milo's?
Why don't you?
Tell me what you don't agree with?
@Milos Sarcev it's an honor to reply to you. Before all, I respect you and your opinion and watch everything you are on. However, although your view judging is understandable, you argue your view with everyone, seemingly dismissing their views as you are right. I feel your most proactive conversation was with Haney on his Podcast. If Displaying the physique in a routine does not change the placings then I agree that if it isn't counted, then it should be a part of the show . But the competitor has his chance to show his trademark pose in the free posing round. I personally feel 90s bodybuilding was and still is the gold standard but much like other sports the athlete evolves and no matter what our views or yours that will not change. Thanks for all you do for the sport, I'm a huge fan.
@@brianh1251 Well - what exactly did you say?
@Milos Sarcev I'm saying I don't entirely disagree with your view. However, it seems that when someone disagrees with you, you argue your point, not respecting the other person's opinion (expect when you were on Rombods podcast). Personally, I feel calling the Mr. Olympia, Mr. 5 mandatory poses is disrespectful to the winner. I also agree that the 90s is the goldstandard of bodybuilding, but like all sports bodybuilding has and will continue to evolve. The athlete has the opportunity to present their poses in the free posesing round, that to me would include thier singuture pose to present thier physique the best they can.
Thank you again for indulging me with this point.
Chris Cormier doing 405 on the Incline for twelve reps pre.contest like it is nothing! th-cam.com/video/lz8PgKTXaP0/w-d-xo.html
I think Milos is tight with his points but he has to let it go lol. It ain't gonna change and he says the same thing every time. I wish there was more chat about anabolics
people that think or don't think they can change something are both right...
I'll stick with my belief and keep repeating it until I am heard...Many are listening, not too many hear me and think about what I am saying...
Letting go is for underachievers and losers...🤫
@@MilosSarcevOfficialTH-camPage that's cool I respect that. Thanks for the reply, just so you know, both yourself and Jay Cutler are my favourite personality's to listen to. Keep doing what you're doing the fans love it
Nick
Andrew
Samson
Shaun
Ramy
Age is just a number all of you cats can get back into shape .56 Pro Natty still Competing having fun. Milo Get back into the Temecula shape if you could do it
Craig Titus was just not all there. He was a good dude if you were his friend. Chris Cormier and Craig trained hard together. Kelly was like my sister. Exactly right like Chris said Kelly was a Angel. Craig messed her up.
Yo Dennis you have to pay attention and give everyone a chance to speak. Chris acts like his punch drunk and just talks over everybody.
Milos right yet again
I look forward to this podcast
I agree with Milos on the posing round, but if I have to hear 1 MORE SECOND about it I’m going to lose my MIND.
Milos just repeats himself over and over again with the same exact debate. Come up with new material PLEASE!
If you talk about specific subject - you tend to repeat your opinion.
Isn't that how it works?
As you see - I am yet to convince anyone....even though I think I am crystal clear and everything is point-blank obvious.
You seem to agree....but nobody else does.
So, you should help me out and not try to shut me up!
Make some sense to them...as I probably don't use the right words!
Vince Taylor was so great poser
Chris was amazing and i still dont think he ever peaked on stage...and stilll won shows..like Andrew jacked
29th
Johnnie Jackson interrupted too much. He makes the podcast awkward.
Johnnie don’t play!!!
Agree with Milos.... Rami should never ever ever beat Samson or Jack ever.
For me Ramis physique is ugly same with Hadi. Ugly blocky physiques
Agree with Milos placing!!! Except i would have Andrew 1st 🥇
Johnny posing was s h i t anyways lol
😂😂😂
Do better chris. You are just wrong…
Love Cormier but he's 100% WRONG