You can't have the auction house, that would defeat the whole idea of being a self found guild. Anyone could just go and post an item on the auction house for 1 copper at 3am and have their main insta buy it.
13:35 - that is not dumb. That is real. It creates sense of "oh, the game is dying" if guildmates are not online. Even with followers and watchers on twitch, it still makes you feel... alone in the world of lonecraft.
14:30 This. All of these newish players just want to play the game, if they gotta check a spreadsheet everytime something new appears to see if it’s allowed it’d just be discouraging. Just let them play.
@@niklashallden7795 purely for content, people who know wow inside and out find it enjoying to watch someone who's clueless and will most likely die often, while the new player has a higher viewcount because of it, it's a win/win situation I think. Idk who's playing but I'm willing to bet a vast majority of new/less experienced players are streamers
@@niklashallden7795 Cause it’s not really a raiding guild, raiding is part of it but it’s more of a content guild, watch these new people play WoW and suck, and see if they might be able to clear the raids with the help of some tryhards. We all know 40 WoW tryhards can clear the raids, it’s the newbies that are the point of OnlyFangs and what makes it interesting.
How I would do it if I were soda so I didn't have to be the rule police and can still let my casual friends have fun... but they probably wont win loot since theyre being carried through it... but they also probably don't care about the loot just the fun with their friends. Required Rules: -No Auction House -No trading outside the guild. -Can only group with Self-Found players -Can only group with OnlyFangs until 60. -Can only ever group with OnlyFangs and Fangsly. Leveling Bounty Board (pays out on 60 ding) -Reach max level - 100 DKP -Never use Onyxia buff - 5 DKP -Never use Zul'Gurub buff - 5 DKP -Never use consumables the guild doesn't have a recipe for - 10 DKP -Never trade - 15 DKP -Never mob tag - 15 DKP -Level a class that was assigned to you - 20 DKP -Kill an Elite Rare while they are orange to all players with no more than 1 other player's assistance - 30 DKP -Reach max level on your first created character and complete all other bounties - 1000 DKP
Would it be so hard for Blizzard to open a fresh harcore server alongside this streamers like talking to them and plan a date for it? like if alot of contetn creators are into it, u may aswell do it right? or i am missing some more complex implications, i get tha it would split even more the players into alot of diferent realms, but this guys also retain a ton of players and bring new players
I like sodas Input on world buffs. Mobbing up in SW/BB for buff is a great community moment. It’s not like streamers can line up these buffs endlessly.
Create an addon with the item ids if someone with the addon loots an id in the scheme, it automaticly logs it. pluss you can make items green based on that.
Sardoco is making a guild for people who wont ever get a raid spot because no one knows who they are and people watch for the streamers not the wow nerds like sardoco
@@darknight602 HC leveling is a joke if you know how to play it safe, but a lot of these streamers either died at least once last time leveling or would just get mob tagged. The really important skill you need is risk analysis and a solid understanding of your class and the threats you might come across, which most of these people just don't have. Making sure they can't get fully kitted with AH gear, consumes, etc, means that it is going to be a pretty serious challenge for everyone who isn't that experienced with classic WoW. It's not like the 1-60 success rate is 70% or anything. And sure you might be someone very comfortable in classic so it's just a tedious grind to 60 barring some bad misplays, but a lot of these people either haven't played the game or haven't in years. They don't know about random stealthed mobs, or dangerous elites, or what has thrash, or what hyperspawns, or what quests cause a random hostile enemy to show up. I promise, there's a lot about WoW that you *think* is just common sense, but a lot of the time you need to see it in action before commiting it to memory. And with how hardcore works, that one time in a few hundred hours that something you had no idea was possible happens can definitely kill you.
"they need to decide amongst themselves whether they can mob tag back to their original level or not" yes im sure theye'd decline people the ability to do this "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" type shit
Sweats making rules for the sweats. The entertainers are all gonna quit after their first deaths, then we're just gonna watch boring ass Hardcore Elite and Frontier raid with Soda as raid lead.
this is not the set rules it will be presented to soda during the meeting, there is no final rules yet and most likely the new wow players will get less rules and the sweats will get hard rules
"if were gonna do only fangs again it needs to be this hard otherwise its boring. there needs to be doubt that we can do this." 100%. As a viewer, if its not hard I don't find it interesting haha.
What would the rule be for people that went around the AH rule by just directly contact the players and trading other players. Can't you get people into the guild that aren't part of the raiding or fighting group? Their job/team is just to create and provide items the guild needs like potions, flasks, dummies, etc.
I'm kind of behind on the people currently in Only Fangs for the coming Hard Core. Can someone tell me if Rav is going to be in his guild again? love that guy.
@@darknight602We get it bro you're an insane gamer, you've commented the same thing 5 times. We're talking about streamers that keyboard turn and click their spells with their cursor.
I think allowing people to trade with guildies for consumes while leveling should be allowed. It makes people with professions like alch feel more useful to others. I mean the whole idea of just playing single player until 60 seems boring.
They should make a quiz similar to the one from the first onlyfangs bout that showed the experience of each player, then based on that they can make brackets of loose to strict rule sets for the purpose of making the difficulty decent across the board while avoiding frustration
10000 rules but yall still can get petries and mob tag? Like pick one if you can mob tag new characters, it's less impactful if you die. So don't have petris, to have the risk of actually dying and not ratting out. If you wanna have petries, then no mob tagging at all cause your barely gonna die anyways unless your an idiot. I vote the former myself, petries remove so much stakes
I didnt hear it mentioned and maybe it goes without saying, but there should be no off-stream play. Also, creating a rule that involves viewer discretion, if viewers see something suspicious and a streamer is trying to cheat, the viewers should have the power to correct the situation by telling/showing proof to the guild's higher ups. ex: If a streamer gets epic but goes outside the rules for an enchant, and the viewers catch this, the player should be punished accordingly by losing their epic. This helps viewers police streamers.
im gonna be honest, they're more than likely not going to follow any of these rules other than maybe the raid sequencing. Most of that guild just do it for content/have played WoW but barely even casually. The no AH, SSF grouping only is just way too much to find.
You’re screwed! And I’ll share why. Potions and elixirs are vital for survival. But they are also time consuming to obtain, IF you have to go out and pluck the herbs yourself. Buying herbs off the AH is a key element in keeping supplies up. There is NO WAY a few players will singlehanded be able to pick enough herbs to supply the guild with the required amount of potions and elixirs for raid or dungeons. Remember that lack of gold or supplies was what stopped players from raiding in classic days of wow…
"Sardaco doesn't seem to think of these players" why should he, this is hardcore if you wanna make it to 60 you better learn all you can about this game. Even people who played a long time (sardaco) die to stupid shit. It's not on soda to make it as easy as possible. No, you go in knowing it's SSF Hardcore. Not gonna fuckin treat you like a child and baby sit you the whole way. Figure it the f out
TBH the harder it is for everyone the better the content is gonna be they shouldn't be worried about people being able to do it or not and just make it really difficult the longer it takes people to get 60 the more month of content you all get out of it
Rule #11 : Everyone wears a heart rate monitor
Probably the most underrated request that will ever exist, the issue is they're too dumb to realize.
🤣🤣🤣
thats a cool idea :D
why 70% comments here are bots. i guess that only way to be a content creator today. sad
You can't have the auction house, that would defeat the whole idea of being a self found guild. Anyone could just go and post an item on the auction house for 1 copper at 3am and have their main insta buy it.
This rule list lasts a week at best. These are streamers
Gold buyers.
@@mattsenkow6986 dont need to buy gold when parasocial roaches give it to them for free.
"No mob tagging!"
Guy in chat: poor emi... 😀
The reason not to get world buffs is to simulate a fresh server
You can trade but only to mcconnell
13:35 - that is not dumb. That is real. It creates sense of "oh, the game is dying" if guildmates are not online. Even with followers and watchers on twitch, it still makes you feel... alone in the world of lonecraft.
I'm a couple of vids behind now, did they lock in Horde? Last update I saw they were still voting and it was pretty even.
14:30 This. All of these newish players just want to play the game, if they gotta check a spreadsheet everytime something new appears to see if it’s allowed it’d just be discouraging. Just let them play.
If ur a newish player why would u start in a HC raiding guild ?
@@niklashallden7795 purely for content, people who know wow inside and out find it enjoying to watch someone who's clueless and will most likely die often, while the new player has a higher viewcount because of it, it's a win/win situation I think. Idk who's playing but I'm willing to bet a vast majority of new/less experienced players are streamers
@@niklashallden7795 Cause it’s not really a raiding guild, raiding is part of it but it’s more of a content guild, watch these new people play WoW and suck, and see if they might be able to clear the raids with the help of some tryhards. We all know 40 WoW tryhards can clear the raids, it’s the newbies that are the point of OnlyFangs and what makes it interesting.
@@zafo5579 But if its for content they should permaban petri flasks, Say what u want if you use those flasks your not playing HC
@@TheAckeePlant So make them play HC and remove petri flasks, zero risk when u have those flasks :)
Can't wait for esfand to get something other than pally but still play pally xd
True, hate that shit
He can try, but he will be playing alone, as Alliance.
gonna be so much more entertaining to watch without mob tagging
"it doesn't tale away from the levelling"
literally lets you 2 shot mobs in grey gear lmao
Positive of in guild trading, you can do engineering and alchemy, if there are herbalists/miners supplying you from the guild.
its going to be hilarious watching them 50/50 windfury totems, who is gonna get the random crit and pull threat and die first?
is woyer a hidden class or something ?
Guild ssf and no mobtagging should be enough for the leveling part and maybe with the rule of max lvls not feeding fresh characters with stuff
How I would do it if I were soda so I didn't have to be the rule police and can still let my casual friends have fun... but they probably wont win loot since theyre being carried through it... but they also probably don't care about the loot just the fun with their friends.
Required Rules:
-No Auction House
-No trading outside the guild.
-Can only group with Self-Found players
-Can only group with OnlyFangs until 60.
-Can only ever group with OnlyFangs and Fangsly.
Leveling Bounty Board (pays out on 60 ding)
-Reach max level - 100 DKP
-Never use Onyxia buff - 5 DKP
-Never use Zul'Gurub buff - 5 DKP
-Never use consumables the guild doesn't have a recipe for - 10 DKP
-Never trade - 15 DKP
-Never mob tag - 15 DKP
-Level a class that was assigned to you - 20 DKP
-Kill an Elite Rare while they are orange to all players with no more than 1 other player's assistance - 30 DKP
-Reach max level on your first created character and complete all other bounties - 1000 DKP
Would it be so hard for Blizzard to open a fresh harcore server alongside this streamers like talking to them and plan a date for it?
like if alot of contetn creators are into it, u may aswell do it right? or i am missing some more complex implications, i get tha it would split even more the players into alot of diferent realms, but this guys also retain a ton of players and bring new players
Im so hyped for this
I like sodas Input on world buffs.
Mobbing up in SW/BB for buff is a great community moment.
It’s not like streamers can line up these buffs endlessly.
Yes I was really happy he said that. Imo no ony/ZG buff is fine but should only apply to raids unless they themselves supplied the buff.
The problem with this sort of thing is... people...
Create an addon with the item ids if someone with the addon loots an id in the scheme, it automaticly logs it. pluss you can make items green based on that.
Sardoco is making a guild for people who wont ever get a raid spot because no one knows who they are and people watch for the streamers not the wow nerds like sardoco
Basically a Self Found Guild. I like the idea but it's gonna be quite a challenge for most
It's not, it's actually easy??? Sure for a brand new player it will be a little difficult but not really
@@darknight602 HC leveling is a joke if you know how to play it safe, but a lot of these streamers either died at least once last time leveling or would just get mob tagged. The really important skill you need is risk analysis and a solid understanding of your class and the threats you might come across, which most of these people just don't have. Making sure they can't get fully kitted with AH gear, consumes, etc, means that it is going to be a pretty serious challenge for everyone who isn't that experienced with classic WoW. It's not like the 1-60 success rate is 70% or anything.
And sure you might be someone very comfortable in classic so it's just a tedious grind to 60 barring some bad misplays, but a lot of these people either haven't played the game or haven't in years. They don't know about random stealthed mobs, or dangerous elites, or what has thrash, or what hyperspawns, or what quests cause a random hostile enemy to show up. I promise, there's a lot about WoW that you *think* is just common sense, but a lot of the time you need to see it in action before commiting it to memory. And with how hardcore works, that one time in a few hundred hours that something you had no idea was possible happens can definitely kill you.
Are you doing horde or alliance?
"they need to decide amongst themselves whether they can mob tag back to their original level or not"
yes im sure theye'd decline people the ability to do this
"we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" type shit
Ony buff does completely trivialize open world mobs though
Sweats making rules for the sweats. The entertainers are all gonna quit after their first deaths, then we're just gonna watch boring ass Hardcore Elite and Frontier raid with Soda as raid lead.
That's what i'm thinking. This is literally for the wow addicts. Any other variety streamers wouldn't last that long
Agreed
this is not the set rules it will be presented to soda during the meeting, there is no final rules yet and most likely the new wow players will get less rules and the sweats will get hard rules
Right.. cus watching mob tagging and getting completely carried by viewers is so "entertaining"
@@sk2790 clear coms
I agree with the AQ20 after BWL, its meant to be that way (Fake fresh)
"if were gonna do only fangs again it needs to be this hard otherwise its boring. there needs to be doubt that we can do this."
100%. As a viewer, if its not hard I don't find it interesting haha.
Until they hit Naxx, it's never "hard" and even then, you can cheese lots of shit...
This is gonna be sick!
What would the rule be for people that went around the AH rule by just directly contact the players and trading other players. Can't you get people into the guild that aren't part of the raiding or fighting group? Their job/team is just to create and provide items the guild needs like potions, flasks, dummies, etc.
i hope bliz changes up a new hardcore server and just straight up removes petri and light of elune 😂
I'm kind of behind on the people currently in Only Fangs for the coming Hard Core. Can someone tell me if Rav is going to be in his guild again? love that guy.
Auction house kinds cheese as people will just mass buy petris and remove the hardcore challenge
Not sure if streamer guild is capable surviving till 60 with these sweatshop rules
It's an old and easy game?
@@darknight602We get it bro you're an insane gamer, you've commented the same thing 5 times. We're talking about streamers that keyboard turn and click their spells with their cursor.
I think allowing people to trade with guildies for consumes while leveling should be allowed. It makes people with professions like alch feel more useful to others. I mean the whole idea of just playing single player until 60 seems boring.
No plan survives first contact ...
I feel like a lot of these rules should only apply to certified sweats. And newbies should be allowed to level with world buffs etc
what is a wow sweat?
Someone who has played a lot of wow and knows the game really well
I want to see hardcore wow up to wrath. Imagine not dying once until Arthas. And that's your one and only death. But you get the rez ovb
They should make a quiz similar to the one from the first onlyfangs bout that showed the experience of each player, then based on that they can make brackets of loose to strict rule sets for the purpose of making the difficulty decent across the board while avoiding frustration
Couldnt the addon track what was unlocked? Make them click a link and link a clip
Council of tears = content, do it
I do think Soda should go with Sardaccos progression, AQ20 before bwl seems super fking OP, even ZG tbh
no world buffs for first MC clear. being buffed out their minds with every possible buff makes a huge difference
The guild is turning in some North-Korea Shit.
based
Kim Il-Soda.
It’s called hardcore for a reason if not just play regular
It's literally just solo self found rules lol relax
Whats fangsly? A sub guild for viewers?
Yes it was
Watch he goes engineering lolol, not a team player
You will play hardcore wow when daddy sodapoppin says you can play it.
When do they begin?
that one comment: "this guy probably likes cbt" 🤣
Someone know on what Server their playing?
100% fuck it, mob tagging is super boring, the whole point is content. fuck mob tagging. GO AGANE
10000 rules but yall still can get petries and mob tag? Like pick one if you can mob tag new characters, it's less impactful if you die. So don't have petris, to have the risk of actually dying and not ratting out. If you wanna have petries, then no mob tagging at all cause your barely gonna die anyways unless your an idiot. I vote the former myself, petries remove so much stakes
These rules are perfect
I didnt hear it mentioned and maybe it goes without saying, but there should be no off-stream play. Also, creating a rule that involves viewer discretion, if viewers see something suspicious and a streamer is trying to cheat, the viewers should have the power to correct the situation by telling/showing proof to the guild's higher ups. ex: If a streamer gets epic but goes outside the rules for an enchant, and the viewers catch this, the player should be punished accordingly by losing their epic. This helps viewers police streamers.
Clips
im gonna be honest, they're more than likely not going to follow any of these rules other than maybe the raid sequencing. Most of that guild just do it for content/have played WoW but barely even casually. The no AH, SSF grouping only is just way too much to find.
I think allowing new players funding to level their engineering for target dummies would be nice so they have an edge
It does not take that long to level mining/engi lol
You’re screwed! And I’ll share why. Potions and elixirs are vital for survival. But they are also time consuming to obtain, IF you have to go out and pluck the herbs yourself. Buying herbs off the AH is a key element in keeping supplies up. There is NO WAY a few players will singlehanded be able to pick enough herbs to supply the guild with the required amount of potions and elixirs for raid or dungeons. Remember that lack of gold or supplies was what stopped players from raiding in classic days of wow…
Just true hardcore... like it was before the "new" official wow sever was released
GL trying to enforce all of that.
It's not hard
If I had the money he does id just get someone to make a website for his checklist
You guys are streamers. This ruleset probably wont last.
No boosting, being fed gear or anything
Rule one don't expect nothing different then the first time it's all the same people so it be the same shitshow as last time
Randomizer of classes
They should do horde
Can we join that guild or is it streamer famous only?
Don't need to be famous
I think is only streamer guild
@@xmoxipavonispetinus8539 Yeah the cool club
imagine just using the ssf tag and be done :)
Should never allow AH ever
You STILL see the mega hardcore nerds with all their bis gear getting wiped in AQ20 i don't see why you guys shouldn't do it.
"This is an actual challenge"... yea man i sure hope it is why are we playing hardcore?
Guild/Cult?
Just ban petri flask. No mob tagging.
Sounds like hell to moderate.
It doesnt
Rule # 12 NO QUESTING / COMBAT ADDONS
Nah
"Sardaco doesn't seem to think of these players" why should he, this is hardcore if you wanna make it to 60 you better learn all you can about this game. Even people who played a long time (sardaco) die to stupid shit. It's not on soda to make it as easy as possible. No, you go in knowing it's SSF Hardcore. Not gonna fuckin treat you like a child and baby sit you the whole way. Figure it the f out
No rules for you = not hardcore. Trading, boosting anything is wrong
yea probably dont let this dude ruin the guild lmao
I have every class to 60 HC before official hardcore wow servers were even out. Its very easy...
Sure you do mate .....
I don't see why he wouldn't. I have 5 level 60s on HC 3 of em before HC released. And a total of 3 druids haha.
Have 2 priest alive . But a difference I was raiding
pls kick all the sweats
I would love to play wow HC with them, its my first time playing wow official, i only played a few times on warmane
You will not make it
On warname onxyia the mobs hit more
rule #1 should've been no RMT
lame
NO handicaps
just do self found or do normal. this half half bullshit is dumb
The start of the video is like, He wants to watch hardcore what? ohhhh
Play on a dead server
TBH the harder it is for everyone the better the content is gonna be they shouldn't be worried about people being able to do it or not and just make it really difficult the longer it takes people to get 60 the more month of content you all get out of it
Rules are for fools
cant wait to watch everyone get boosted and mob tagged!! /YAWN kekew
Leveling 1-60, been there done that. Just raid in retail
Way too much. Maybe no world buffs just because of how much they steamrolled MC but that’s it
asmon should be the 1 man mob tagging council
😎 Make it even more hardcore. No buffs, no stat buff consumables. No enchants. Game would be hard AF!
asmon for council of tears
as if these bunch of pay to win players want pay to win lol
Just let them do whatever its funner that way to watch
Rule #247 Absolutely no enjoyment is allowed to be had by either players or chat.
All of these problems are solved by a private server, but Soda would get owned by blizzard