I love these takes but how is NO ONE talking about how in Season 2 Caroline foreshadowed the finale to Season 3???? "Your father sold you out for a piece of property. I would never do that."
and you have to use the metaphore that matson used, about the slaves that could recognize each other.. logan saw that his children were finally seing each other and got against him.. when he realized that, he started coming for each one of them
Yes, one of his chief ploys is to play his children off against one another. He does it right from the start. Keeping them separate and destabilized is part of how he draws his power from them to be used against them. When the 3 of them come storming together into the room in the last scene, the first thing he does is try to get them to turn against each other by telling them to expel Kendal. When that doesn't work, he tries to pick off Roman to create a division. When that doesn't work, he erupts into a childish tantrum-even though he already knows he has them beat, but he can't stand that he's lost control over them!
@@ushalexa Re-watching all the old eps with what we know now it's mind blowing how many clues and indicators we get. I didn't catch the strategy you described but now I'm like ohh yeah.🤔
@@ushalexa He also wants them to talk separately with him... which they immediately pick up on... that's how he plays them. It's just words, complicated airflow so as to confuse them further 😬
The united front they maintained against Logan's attempts of turning them against each other reduced him to childish bantering...he is unable to maintain himself as well as Shiv did when Tom's betrayal was revealed. Logan's children are so good at holding in their emotions because of him. And now he will face everything else he may have taught them...x3 now. I'm so impatiently waiting for next season. Love this show!!
Also, Tom didn’t “just” decide to betray Shiv. He betrayed her in S3 Ep 2 when he found out from Greg that she was meeting Ken. He told Logan, and Logan sent the donuts.
Roman has absolutely no idea how to deal with an emotional situation like the one with Kendall, so he reverts to what he knows: crude and offensive humor. But he really does try to comfort his brother, and it actually ends up working.
and so is shiv, she was trying to be there for kendall but she's the only who kept her sh!t together and find a way not to get her and her brothers get fcked
This episode had so many wonderful scenes that people have drawn attention to but besides the final one, Connor's lashing out has stuck with me. It's regularly repeated that he was basically their father figure, taking his younger siblings to trips, allowing them to be children and have good memories and the casual way that they rubbed him off... you could see his heart getting crushed. He doesn't mind when it comes to his father, he doesn't care after all these years but from his siblings... the children that he practically raised... it stings. Alan Ruck deserves more of the spotlight for Connor.
This show is so incredible I truly don’t see how they’ll top it in the upcoming seasons. These actors mesh so well together it’s like they were born for these roles. Love love love this show!
Really? I don't even think they've scratched the surface of these characters. Everyone's been held down by lies and manipulation, parasitic relationships and daddy issues. Finally seeing people break out of their shells, out of the bonds of Logan's iron fist is such a relief. The best aspects of the show have been when people like Ken and Tom have stood up against their "oppressors" I feel like the show continuing on will just lean into that concept.
Best show I’ve seen in a decade or two, but never forget, we are talking about awful people. This is the most interesting theme about it. It’s awful porn, or, it’s “ Revelation of the method”, which is the bombardment On us that the top tier get away with anything, while the peasants watch and get demoralized. It's only been going since Rome. I would argue that's all news and shows, in the end, we are just workers. Remember this this theme and you will see it everywhere. It's a program, and this is the best example, and it's sooo slight. Genius
I can see fresh new characters being added to spice things up. We can only see Logan cheat death takeovers betrayal so many times. Time to get spicy. This GOJO Boss is gonna be a real Fucker I think.lol
@@lasportslive6813 I'd be happy if the kids just came into their own. They're incredibly interesting characters who are held back by their dependence on their fathers approval.
I like how everything is logical in this show, writers have been deliberately showing us how indifferent Caroline is towards her children, how she even regrets having them, in order for this huge betrayal to not seem out of character arc and anyways against logic. Great, great writing.
When she was first introduced, she came off as sympathetic, a mother who just wanted some time with her children but then she goes on and ignores Kendall’s despair and abandons her children the very next morning. Her hypocrisy is great in the onion scene where she accuses Shiv of knowing how to twist the knife and then says how she should have had dogs instead of children, which is her twisting the knife deeper than Shiv ever could. She sold out her children for her fiancée who is more interested in her ex husband and she knows it and yet she chooses that gold digger. I just hope her children abandon their connection with her fully, cut off all ties and toxicity. No more emotional manipulation.
Also, Shiv is wearing the colors her brothers are wearing. A white dress (Kendall's shirt) with blue (Roman's pants) and pink (Roman's shirt) flowers. The siblings are finally united. 👌🏽
Without a doubt, in my 66 years of life on this planet, this is the best series I've watched on TV, hands down. From musical score, to script, to character development, acting, to ethos and comedy combined. It is the best. Cant wait for season 4.
@@Harinjo916 this may be correct, but how many seasons Better Call Saul delayed for what it is actually? If we compare the first 3 season of both tv shows, Succession is way better for sure.
@@94Guybrush What is it? If you mean since it is a prequel the show can stand on their own so good it is, and comparing season by season, I'd still give Better Call Saul the upper hand, especially the season 3 finale. Problem with Succession is, it boost few events up and at the ending, nothing happens from it, like everyone forgets. Season 1 finale blop, season 2 finale one of the best build ups ever, and? They blop it, nothing happens
The writing, yes, the acting, yes but the blocking in almost every scene in this show is beyond. That stagecraft alone is staggering. Thank you for spotlighting that. Best of any show I’ve ever seen. It’s the real hidden gem of this show
and FUCKING WOW that kendall was kind of smilling that his siblings was seeing their father for the first time.. we, as the audience, saw logan in the first episode of the series, but shiv and roman just saw logan as ruthless, but now they know that he's REALLY a killer.. cruel, calculist and evil
I don't really care how much money you have - humans need to be cared for, and if they're not, this is what you end up with. It's ultimately a deeply sad show.
Season 3 wasnt my favourite but Im kinda coming to the realisation that isn't a writing problem, its a me problem. I wanted a put together Kendall, who would be fast talking, fast thinking, and beat his father in the way that the last episode of season 2 kinda indicated he would. What I got was a egocentric cringey self destructive arsehole and it didnt fit with my idea of what the season should be. But I think that was actually a brilliant piece of writing- people can change, but not that much and not that quick. Im just gonna have to not fall in the same trap for season 4-- right now, after the last episode, im expecting Kendall to be more supportive of his siblings, to own up to his mistakes- to be more reasonable. Thats what im hoping for, at least. But Im ready for him to be a slow learner.
I totally agree with you, because that was kind of what I wanted from him as well. It was along the season, as I remembered his past stunts, that I realized this is who he is - when riding a high, Kendall becomes self-absorbed and delusional. The thing is, when he gets serious, he can have moments of sheer brilliance. I personally think we might see a more sharp Kendall this next season - someone who is finally coming to terms with who he is, wants to stop fooling around, and frankly doesn't have anything to lose at this point. Very curious how this will translate in regards to his relationship with his siblings, I definitely agree their relationship will probably improve from here on out, but this is Succession, we never know lol. Anywho, I'm excited.
Agreed. I think though, knowing all of these three have severe trauma from such horrible narcissistic parents that their learning process would be slow. I too, wanted Kendall to take down Logan. But gosh, maybe it’s Tom… abs what’s going on with Connor? Lol “I’m the oldest!!! I’m the eldest!” Hahahha
I totally agree, I wanted Kendall to gain some power, at least for awhile, I am sick and tired of Kendall being Logan’s pet whipping boy, and Roman pushing Kendall down was pathetic and lowest point for me. I thought season 3 repetitive rehashed with the exception of season finale. Is that all I should watch now on this show, is it season’s finales?
There's something so Shakespearean about the way this show does these conflicts and I love it! The way that they all live in a culture where material gains are more important than relationships ("it doesn't serve my interests, how does it serve my interests?" "love?" etc from That Scene) is so sad in a way and it brilliantly satirizes these big businesses.
I exclaimed loudly when you noted the parallel between Roman / Kendall’s comfort grip of each other’s shoulders when the other was down. Such astounding nuances in their performances in this episode!
You nailed it when you said that Tom's allegiance with Logan was in our face the entire season. I remember audibly gasping when Logan patted Tom's shoulder, and I IMMEDIATELY replayed everything Tom had done in my head and went "oh my god, its so obvious". Incredibly well written where the clues are just hidden enough to make you second guess what the true intent is. I went into this show thinking it might be OK. I came out craving more.
Jeremy Strong was actually never supposed to sit down in this scene, the crew was getting mad he did it for continuity issues and he got so messy after doing it they just decided to keep it and did some reshoots, so it’s great we can pull so much out of something accidental
That "crew" definitely have no idea how acting works. Let them try imagine themselves in the position of Kendall who carried such s heavy burden and then finally confesses pressured with all those terrible emotions and.. doesn't collapse
@callmecatalystIt kind of makes you wonder tho, if all that method acting takes a toll on a person. I’m sure it must. To stay in character for all that while , especially a character so intense . It’s very hard to take that home with you every night.
Jeremy Strong. I was shocked & speechless over his performance. He blew me out of the water in season 2, and season 3 was the best acting I've ever seen. Anywhere. Oh, and Tom fought back against Shiv's abuse. I love it.
An interesting thing about long-running series is the way that some actors deliver such compelling performances that “supporting “ roles move into the centre of action. Earlier, the idea of Tom and Greg coming out on top would have been like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern returning in the fifth act of Hamlet to take over the throne of Denmark. But here we are with Tom looking like a major power. That said, I don’t think that Tom will come out on top. Like The Godfather, this show is about family, and I can’t see Logan rewarding Tom for stabbing “Pinky” in the back. Logan has a long history of manipulating people by dangling prizes on front of them, and while he might value Tom as an intelligence asset, I don’t see him handing Tom the Crown Jewels.
@@sarahlang2119 I disagree and think Tom stepping up and offering to save Logan, save Waystar-Royco, save Logan from having to send his child to prison was something Logan deeply appreciated. Then Tom again saves Logan by informing him of the coup being attempted by his children to stop the sale to Gojo and proved to Logan that Tom is trustworthy and the true killer that none of his kids are.
@@BlyGuy I guess that it's a tribute to the writing and acting that we are talking about what Logan/Tom/Shiv etc. will do, as if they were real people, not characters in a drama. That is to say, Tom's destiny will depend on the direction that Jesse Armstrong wants to take the series. Tom's character has followed an interesting arc. In season 1, he was a buffoon who's presence in the inner circle depended entirely on his relationship with Shiv. Hence the cringeworthy groveling and insecurity. Fast forward and he has become more confident - or is that arrogant. I'm reminded of the concepts of hubris and nemesis. "Pride cometh before the fall " a reliable component of Greek drama.
The trigger for Kendall to break down is also great.. In a pretty empty area he sees a bunch of waiting staff, and the past comes into mind.. Also, when they get into the car to confront Logan, Kendall pats a waiting staff person, now he kind of feels empathetic to them..
Oh yeah, this was also brilliant! I saw this stuff being picked up and mentioned everywhere, so I felt to bring that up in the video would be unnecessary. But great catch! The interview where the director explains that moment with the waiting staff is fascinating.
After watching the finale, I went back and rewatched the whole series....wow, a whole different experience, I saw sooo many signs leading up to this. And Tom was treated so much worse by Shiv than I thought.
The thing I noticed when I rewatched it also was how many times Roy mentioned child/sexual abuse. Could their dad have done something so terrible? He mentions it on relation to his brothers but I get the feeling it might jave been the dad. His memory is off perhaps as self protection. 😳
When watching it the first time around I think you think she's just beiny cute and joking. The more you get to know her and to large part her family you realise they're mostly just being honest assholes most of the time.
I was relieved too but also because I wanted to say some of those things to him. He did try to save the kid, it was an accident. They shouldn't have been doing drugs and he was definitely culpable but he didn't murder anyone.
I'm a huge fan of Succession and I've rewatched the season 3 finale five times, it's truly a masterpiece! Loved your commentary, thank you for noticing all those details and nuances in the last scenes!
@callmecatalyst I think that's what makes it more gratifying if Greg ends up on top. Given his first scene in the show it would be the most ironic ending.
I actually think his arc is heading towards prison honestly. At best I could see Ewan dying and leaving him his seat, possibly becoming a relevant player for a Roy kid.
I haven’t loved a show this much since Mad Men. There are no weak links. And I loved every episode of this season. I can never guess where the story is taking us, but when we get there, you realize that all the signs were there…like Tom’s betrayal
I always knew Logan was going to win at the end of the third season, what kept me on watching the finale is me wanting to know HOW he was going to get away with that, and it was fantastic; Shiv didn't consider Tom as someone of worth and that was her (and her brothers) downfall.
that's not true, i mean they make jokes about tom's background, but she had always served his interests from the start, im rewatching season 1 and shiv is pushing tom to be the next potential CEO, even in season 2, she wants tom beside her as she climbs up the ladder
Tom went from "hihi I'm a little boy I can't lie look at my ding-dong" to fucking best character in succession. Amazing what they did w him, he's been perfect.
id argue tom is the character with the most layers to him which makes him so compelling to watch, he’s really come into his own this season and i would love to see him win over the siblings
The best pet about that scene is that Tom was right. It was the family and Gerry that wanted to push it under the rug and hope nobody found out. If Tom used his original plan and got ahead of the issue by having a press conference and threw the managers who no longer worked there under the bus it would have gone well. They could have put it all on Lester and then Lester would have still died later making it a non-issue
This show is absolutly phenomenal on all levels !! Watched and loved some series but that one ! Waow above and beyond, and Jeremy Strong is above amazing in his acting,he's overwhelming, I can feel every single emotion that goes through him, it's fascinating, he IS Kendall .. My new favorite actor!
Everytime I think succession couldn't come up with a better season than the previous one, they come up with a whole new level of creativeness. Kudos to Jesse Armstrong for creating one of the best TV shows.
I am so happy that Greg is in the centre of all this power moves lmao the guy was on the verge of homelessness, and now he is rising through the ranks.
I think Shiv and Tom will mirror Logan and Kendall in the way that the underdogs will finally earn the respect that they never had before because they betrayed them. I just remember the slight smirk/smile on Logan’s face in S2’s finale, when Kendall betrayed him during the press conference. Obviously Logan feels many things for Kendall, but I’m willing to bet that one of them is (kind of) pride, and in a way, respect, like “Ah, I enjoy this game and I enjoy a good adversary.” Shiv always underestimated Tom and thinks that he’s one of the weaker players in the game. Like Logan said in the family therapy episode in S1, “you married someone beneath your station because you’re so afraid of getting betrayed.” Now that Tom has proven himself to be one of the top players all along, she finally sees that he is on her level, if not higher. If their marriage doesn’t end in divorce (lol), they might actually start to love each other in a way that would work for the both of them. It would ofc be a messed up way to work through their marital problems, but again they are all messed up people. But that’s just my theory. 🤷🏻♀️
Although this season did a great job of physically depicting each sibling’s emotional journey, especially the way that the camera shots were done, re-watching the earlier episodes made me long for the clever dialogue of season 1, which has so far been unmatched.
I would disagree that Tom won. Winning the Logan way, under Logan's control is the opposite of winning, Winning would have been to extricate himself from the company and marriage. However this route is definitely much more fun.
Completely agree with this! Deals with the devil always come with strings attached and I'm sure he'll find out the hard way next season. Nobody who willingly participates or depends on playing the Roy's inner circle power games leaves unscathed.
11:37 I’m so disappointed you didn’t mention what was really in our face the whole time and obvious in retrospect: Nero and Sporus. Nero kicked his wife down the stairs and killed her. Nero then claims a slave named Sporus, castrates him, dressed him in women’s clothing, and quickly married him. This is play by play how it happened here, with Tom killing Shiv (as they have often used the term in business) and literally calls Greg “Sporus” before making him the offer to be at the “bottom of the top”
My goodnes did you knock it out of the park towards the end of the video. It was wonderful reliving those amazing moments from the episode while also hearing someone explain EVERYTHING I counsciously and subconsciously saw, but never said aloud.
I love the way Shiv holds her side like she's just been stabbed as she sits down. Tom is such a badass...you almost mistake all his moves as being weak and self-deprecating but they actually were more noble and put himself in the best possible position.
I love this show, and I guarantee will rewatch it at least 3 times until the new season. Its like Veep, incredible writing , phenomenal acting from every actor and its f#$king hilarious. Succession is NOT like a regular drama with every episodes leave with a cliffhanger. Its a shimmer just like life. Thw writing and acting keeps you hanging.
@@HiddenWen no i don't think she deserved it, from the first season, she had always served his interest like protecting him from her brothers and convincing logan for the top job like getting him the top position in atn, she had always been there for tom in every step, even willing to put her brother behind bars than having tom to face jail time
I was watching an analysis about Tom's decision and the author said "Tom did nothing wrong because Shiv did nothing right". Had no questions for Tom since then.
Each season, we see Logan test and reject one of his children. In the first season, Logan rejects Kendall after he sells off a piece of the company while he is sick. In the second season, he tries out Shiv, but finds her lacking, too. Then, he rejects Roman because of his odd sexual behavior. And, in fact, none of the children are as smart and wily as Logan. Is Tom? He shows he is a killer by turning on Shiv. But does he have the other skills Logan requires? That's Season 4. My bet: Tom will also be rejected by Logan. There's going to be a boardroom fight about the sale of the company - and remember Shiv has a seat now. In fact, the proper resolution for the company is to break it up into 3 or 4 independent pieces, with each one of the children getting a slice. No one can, in fact, replace Logan. The kids aren't in his league. But they could manage smaller companies. In real life, Murdoch sold off the bulk of his empire to Disney and only kept the news division, which he gave to his sons, James and Lachlan. Then, politics drove/forced James out. "The Godfather" isn't really about Marlon Brando. It's about Al Pacino. Drama frequently is actually about the character who changes. Michael Corleone is the one who changes. In this case, many of the characters have changed. Shiv has gone from idealistic outsider to amoral insider. Roman has finally become able to stand up to his father. Kendall seems to have gained the confidence and love that he has been craving. Greg has gone from buffoon to...well, we're still not sure. But Tom seems to have changed completely - from considerate to conniving. Can't wait for Season 4.
Logan's a shit. He won the boardroom coup because roman was so abused he craved for daddy, Ewan was a loon. He got incredibly lucky with the hostile takeover because of kens crash, and chose a CEO because of his boner. And keep in mind that he didn't really win last season. He just betrayed his kids, but he's divesting his legacy and retiring , thereby losing all political power being a news conglomerate gets him, simply because the company he tried to acquire ballooned so much in weeks the reverse happened. And this acquisition was to save his obsolete business; the hostile take over, the fine slapped by the feds all had nothing to do with it. His business just routinely slipped into a failure because he kept saying kendall wanted to buy a website. The dinosaurs era is long in the past. And guess what might have helped him if he hadn't been hung up over unionizing, contradicted his own principle of Gotta burn if you want to turn? Stuck with kens original acquisition of vaulter that has relevance in this era. That's right; Ken's deal which logan decided to disinherit him over because he ran to an elevator instead of measuring dicks, was their only possible saving grace. And keep in mind that toms paranoia, gregs snitching to gerrie are the only reasons most of the incriminating documents are gone. Things he had no control over. Toms press conference would have ruined him.
@@jaxsetbertoncarlism8873 i completely agree with you. i think the show tries really hard to give a sense of godlike aura to Logan when in reality he was really mediocre with his business-wise decision, much to it because of his outdated view on the economy and just his plain explosive, self entitled, child like temperament. one thing he is good at is at pushing the buttons of his subordinates (including the kids), making them do what he pleases. in my opinion, with a company this big, you have so much fat to burn before a decision ends up being one that kills the business that your team of consultants and experts are perfectly able to revert it, like the show ilustrates it for 3 seasons (even tho the company was bought in the end lol). i dont think logan is "one of a kind" or "the best ceo for the job", quite the opposite actually.
I agree. As you and Motorista Microlife detail below, Logan wins because he cheats and he's willing to do anything to come out on top, taking advantage of any weakness, even in those he claims to love. He's cunning and amoral. And I think this is part of the point of the show: he's not successful because he's full of insight or talent or vision or intelligence or any other attribute we like to use to glorify titans of capitalism; he's successful because he's an amoral tyrant. People are awed by him because he's rich and powerful; they don't stop to see that he actually doesn't possess any winning qualities, as a human being or even as a CEO. Still, his wealth and power are magnetic to those around him.
I loved this season finale. One thing i have to say is that the first time i saw it (seen it a couple of times now) when Shiv calls Tom on her way to see her dad, I said out loud "oh Tom's going to fuck em" my GF was like "what, no way" (and i usually suck at predictions on TV shows or movies, oh God, you should have heard the shit that i came up with for GoT lol) . I guess what im trying to say is that that conversation of Tom and Greg "making a deal with the devil" I always saw it as Tom is going to go with Logan, which kinda sucks i guess since it wasnt that much of a surprise at the end (i didnt know HOW he was going to fuck em but I saw it as a clear sunny day that he was going to do it). Best show of TV right now hands down. Great video.
I forget if it was in the last episode but the guy that they ended up selling the company to was talking to Roman saying something like “Success is so easy” and ends up buying the company. I found it interesting because it was almost like Logan finally met his match, the new form of media taking on the old giant. and the success comment sounds awfully like “I fucking win”
That scene where Ken confesses reminded me of the flashback climax in Tenesee Williams' Suddenly Last Summer". Where another careless elite gets literally torn apart.
Coming a few weeks late to this review to say thank you very much for it. I am a die-hard Succession fan, was literally shouting at the TV screen during that 'revelation' of sorts of the final scene and can't wait for S 4. Your review helped me zoom in on the characters, the filming etc and get in a bit deeper. I can't help but feel sorry for 'the kids', even though they are awful, awful characters, and that says a lot about the writing. As the poem goes, 'they f*ck you up, your mum and dad'...
So i started watching succession few weeks ago, sure i enjoyed it sm and to my luck, i thought season 4 was dropping in May, and as i was finishing the finale of season 3 few nights ago i realised tha the first episode of season 4 is dropping THAT NIGHT and you can imagine the joy i felt. I'm gratefull to finding this series now ❤
i had originally felt that this 3rd season was slow, but upon rewatch i realized that i felt that way due to the difference in experience when watching weekly airings vs watching it all at once/at my own pace. when i had to wait all week for the next episode, i would build extremely high expectations for it to be as event filled or exciting as an episode like the shareholder meeting, for example. and of course when you have overly high expectations and they dont get met, you then feel disappointed. conversely, when watching it at my own pace i quite enjoyed the ebb and flow of the show and saw the necessity for some of the more slow or quiet or less explosive moments. i havent watched a show with a weekly airing schedule in quite a long time, or if a show had been aired weekly originally, i had seen it after the fact and didnt experience it that way (e.g. other hbo shows like GOT or euphoria). its interesting how the different ways in which we consume media these days influence our perception of it.
This show is just epic , Best part , noone knows who to root for ...really. lol. And the whole episode 5 when it was pandemonium from start to finish and towards the end , when Greg shares the idea that he wants to sue Greenpeace .... Probably one of the funniest unforgettable scenes ever on TV.
He visto Los,t House the Cards, Los Soprano, Juego de Tronos, Breaking Bad, etc etc etc y esta SUCESSION merece estar en el Podio entre las más grandes de todos los tiempos
Here's the thing I love about this show: most of the time, Logan's right. He was right not to give Kendall the CEO position, he's right not to trust it to the other siblings, and he's right to sell the company. None of them are capable, or quite frankly deserves it. And by selling he's also looking out for their interests and getting them a bigger piece of the pie. But at the same time, the reason they're all such flawed people is because of the way he raised them. He constantly manipulates and beats them down, giving them false hope when there's none to be given. He even pulled Shiv out of a promising political career, only to toss her to the side. But my absolute favorite thing about this show is that I firmly believe Logan does actually love his children. Like Kendall says, it's a wrong kind of love expression, but it's genuine, fatherly love. It adds a whole another layer of complexity to his character and the show itself. There's so much left unexplored about Logan that I'd love to see.
I agree. He actually is making the correct decision and has every season but the way he goes about it is so abusive and manipulative. But he's doing the correct thing...
Yes! I just saw an interview with Brian Cox and he said he asked Jesse Armstrong, Succession showrunner, did Logan love his children and Jesse said yes. But since Logan is so flawed, that fatherly love is dysfunctional. They need to do a prequel set in Scotland, cuz something there fucked him and his brother up. Like what's up with not mentioning their dead sister???
he's making pretty horrible desicions. he should have stepped down and gave ceo to Kendall who actally have any kind of understanding of how to transfer this outdated company into 21st century. Logan is the odd one out in the world of thechnology and social media, he doesn't understnad the world moved on. all good ideas was Kendall's, including buying gopro. if Logan listened to Kendall earlear he wouldn't have to sell the company.
@@sota2729 well yes there is that. but I don't know that Kendall actually has what it takes but he should be listened to. I do think the company would have done fine with him as CEO but I sort of get why Logan doesn't want any of the kids to have the company haha. Its weird. I have sympathy for the kids but at the same time I sort of think they're idiots. and Logan is an unwavering asshole but sort of also has a point.
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@@thegreenreels Parabéns mesmo, conteúdo irado. Se conseguir, faz mais de succession que ainda tem muito interesse residual. E tem público! Boa sorte, mano!
HUGE CONGRATS to the episode's writer Jesse Armstrong, actor Matthew Macfadyen, and the entire cast/crew of Succession for their Emmy wins this season (Writing, Supporting Actor, Best Drama). Everyone hit their mark on this episode and really made something spectacular. Huge fan. Beautiful episode, perhaps the best of the series, so far. However, another show with a better episode than this one? I mean no disrespect at all towards the phenomenal Succession, but... Breaking Bad's Ozymandias is just so goddamned perfect. How could one forget? I mean we're talking Emmy wins for Best Actor, Supporting Actress, Writing (the first three being for "Ozymandias", alone), Supporting Actor, Drama, and Editing, with nominations for directing, writing (again), editing (again TWO more times), sound editing, sound mixing, cinematography, makeup, and prosthetic makeup in just the last season.
Even if no one told Logan that the kids were planning to stop the sale/merger , and they showed up unannounced, after that point Logan can just make a phone call to his ex wife and then make the same deal. It would just be an hour’s delay on the deal.
Oh, that wonderful succession theme! Like acid rain 🌧 falling, falling. It reminds me of the feels I got from hearing sopranos theme, but in the opposite direction.
Grew up in a dysfunctional family with trauma bonds. This is the most realistic portrayal of that I’ve ever seen. This is my favorite episode of TV ever.
In the finale, Roman and Shiv realized just how cold, ruthless, and calculating their father was. For Kendall, it was Tuesday.
So true they really thought they were different
They may have lost but at least they are finally with each other.
This is good 👍
@@TheYungpromo😮😮😮😅
They can finally appreciate what Kendall's been going through since episode 1
I love these takes but how is NO ONE talking about how in Season 2 Caroline foreshadowed the finale to Season 3???? "Your father sold you out for a piece of property. I would never do that."
Holy shit. Great pick up
YOooooooooo.
I have rewatched Succession so many times and I still get something new from it. Succession is my GoT.
Bravo!
@@jamesmarie only it’s written better and is much more original than GOT. Succession is in a class of its own
Bro
The "dust" scene where Ken confesses to his siblings is one of the greatest scenes I've witnessed in any TV show.
soo true
the tragedy is that I waited 30 mins for a gin and tonic ken!
Loved that scene!
and you have to use the metaphore that matson used, about the slaves that could recognize each other.. logan saw that his children were finally seing each other and got against him.. when he realized that, he started coming for each one of them
Ohh that's a good one, I didn't catch that!
Yes, one of his chief ploys is to play his children off against one another. He does it right from the start. Keeping them separate and destabilized is part of how he draws his power from them to be used against them. When the 3 of them come storming together into the room in the last scene, the first thing he does is try to get them to turn against each other by telling them to expel Kendal. When that doesn't work, he tries to pick off Roman to create a division. When that doesn't work, he erupts into a childish tantrum-even though he already knows he has them beat, but he can't stand that he's lost control over them!
@@ushalexa Re-watching all the old eps with what we know now it's mind blowing how many clues and indicators we get. I didn't catch the strategy you described but now I'm like ohh yeah.🤔
@@ushalexa He also wants them to talk separately with him... which they immediately pick up on... that's how he plays them. It's just words, complicated airflow so as to confuse them further 😬
The united front they maintained against Logan's attempts of turning them against each other reduced him to childish bantering...he is unable to maintain himself as well as Shiv did when Tom's betrayal was revealed. Logan's children are so good at holding in their emotions because of him. And now he will face everything else he may have taught them...x3 now. I'm so impatiently waiting for next season. Love this show!!
Also, Tom didn’t “just” decide to betray Shiv. He betrayed her in S3 Ep 2 when he found out from Greg that she was meeting Ken. He told Logan, and Logan sent the donuts.
Good call! I always wondered how Logan knew.. I even thought maybe Logan guessed and didn't know exactly. Makes sense that it was Tom
Oh shiiiiiiiit
@@samwisegamgees679 is that it!
such a great catch!
He also didnt vouch for Shiv on the plane when Logan was picking the interim CEO
Roman has absolutely no idea how to deal with an emotional situation like the one with Kendall, so he reverts to what he knows: crude and offensive humor. But he really does try to comfort his brother, and it actually ends up working.
and so is shiv, she was trying to be there for kendall but she's the only who kept her sh!t together and find a way not to get her and her brothers get fcked
This episode had so many wonderful scenes that people have drawn attention to but besides the final one, Connor's lashing out has stuck with me. It's regularly repeated that he was basically their father figure, taking his younger siblings to trips, allowing them to be children and have good memories and the casual way that they rubbed him off... you could see his heart getting crushed. He doesn't mind when it comes to his father, he doesn't care after all these years but from his siblings... the children that he practically raised... it stings. Alan Ruck deserves more of the spotlight for Connor.
This is perfect
This show is so incredible I truly don’t see how they’ll top it in the upcoming seasons. These actors mesh so well together it’s like they were born for these roles. Love love love this show!
That's what I thought after season 2 , they proved me wrong.
Really? I don't even think they've scratched the surface of these characters. Everyone's been held down by lies and manipulation, parasitic relationships and daddy issues. Finally seeing people break out of their shells, out of the bonds of Logan's iron fist is such a relief. The best aspects of the show have been when people like Ken and Tom have stood up against their "oppressors" I feel like the show continuing on will just lean into that concept.
Best show I’ve seen in a decade or two, but never forget, we are talking about awful people. This is the most interesting theme about it.
It’s awful porn, or, it’s “ Revelation of the method”, which is the bombardment On us that the top tier get away with anything, while the peasants watch and get demoralized. It's only been going since Rome. I would argue that's all news and shows, in the end, we are just workers. Remember this this theme and you will see it everywhere. It's a program, and this is the best example, and it's sooo slight. Genius
I can see fresh new characters being added to spice things up. We can only see Logan cheat death takeovers betrayal so many times. Time to get spicy. This GOJO Boss is gonna be a real Fucker I think.lol
@@lasportslive6813 I'd be happy if the kids just came into their own. They're incredibly interesting characters who are held back by their dependence on their fathers approval.
I like how everything is logical in this show, writers have been deliberately showing us how indifferent Caroline is towards her children, how she even regrets having them, in order for this huge betrayal to not seem out of character arc and anyways against logic. Great, great writing.
When she was first introduced, she came off as sympathetic, a mother who just wanted some time with her children but then she goes on and ignores Kendall’s despair and abandons her children the very next morning. Her hypocrisy is great in the onion scene where she accuses Shiv of knowing how to twist the knife and then says how she should have had dogs instead of children, which is her twisting the knife deeper than Shiv ever could. She sold out her children for her fiancée who is more interested in her ex husband and she knows it and yet she chooses that gold digger. I just hope her children abandon their connection with her fully, cut off all ties and toxicity. No more emotional manipulation.
Yeah, I honestly thought there was some hope with the mother but shes more indifferent than the father. She really sold them like property.
did anyone else catch in the beginning of the episode when tom said he had two get out of jail free cards? So good
But Shiv stole one of the get out of jail cards. She said she only stole in order to win. She knows Tom’s secret and that’s an ace up her sleeve.
Also, Shiv is wearing the colors her brothers are wearing. A white dress (Kendall's shirt) with blue (Roman's pants) and pink (Roman's shirt) flowers. The siblings are finally united. 👌🏽
Without a doubt, in my 66 years of life on this planet, this is the best series I've watched on TV, hands down. From musical score, to script, to character development, acting, to ethos and comedy combined. It is the best. Cant wait for season 4.
Absolutly agree, the best show no doubt !!
@@simbalantana4572 I love Succession but even Better Call Saul is better as of now
@@Harinjo916 this may be correct, but how many seasons Better Call Saul delayed for what it is actually? If we compare the first 3 season of both tv shows, Succession is way better for sure.
@@94Guybrush What is it? If you mean since it is a prequel the show can stand on their own so good it is, and comparing season by season, I'd still give Better Call Saul the upper hand, especially the season 3 finale. Problem with Succession is, it boost few events up and at the ending, nothing happens from it, like everyone forgets. Season 1 finale blop, season 2 finale one of the best build ups ever, and? They blop it, nothing happens
@@Harinjo916 We can say the same thing about Madmen or Sopranos and these are 2 of the best tv shows ever
The writing, yes, the acting, yes but the blocking in almost every scene in this show is beyond. That stagecraft alone is staggering. Thank you for spotlighting that. Best of any show I’ve ever seen. It’s the real hidden gem of this show
The scene where Kendall confesses is the most shockingly tender scene in TV history.
and FUCKING WOW that kendall was kind of smilling that his siblings was seeing their father for the first time..
we, as the audience, saw logan in the first episode of the series, but shiv and roman just saw logan as ruthless, but now they know that he's REALLY a killer.. cruel, calculist and evil
I don't really care how much money you have - humans need to be cared for, and if they're not, this is what you end up with. It's ultimately a deeply sad show.
Season 3 wasnt my favourite but Im kinda coming to the realisation that isn't a writing problem, its a me problem. I wanted a put together Kendall, who would be fast talking, fast thinking, and beat his father in the way that the last episode of season 2 kinda indicated he would. What I got was a egocentric cringey self destructive arsehole and it didnt fit with my idea of what the season should be.
But I think that was actually a brilliant piece of writing- people can change, but not that much and not that quick. Im just gonna have to not fall in the same trap for season 4-- right now, after the last episode, im expecting Kendall to be more supportive of his siblings, to own up to his mistakes- to be more reasonable. Thats what im hoping for, at least. But Im ready for him to be a slow learner.
I totally agree with you, because that was kind of what I wanted from him as well. It was along the season, as I remembered his past stunts, that I realized this is who he is - when riding a high, Kendall becomes self-absorbed and delusional. The thing is, when he gets serious, he can have moments of sheer brilliance.
I personally think we might see a more sharp Kendall this next season - someone who is finally coming to terms with who he is, wants to stop fooling around, and frankly doesn't have anything to lose at this point. Very curious how this will translate in regards to his relationship with his siblings, I definitely agree their relationship will probably improve from here on out, but this is Succession, we never know lol.
Anywho, I'm excited.
Agreed. I think though, knowing all of these three have severe trauma from such horrible narcissistic parents that their learning process would be slow. I too, wanted Kendall to take down Logan. But gosh, maybe it’s Tom… abs what’s going on with Connor? Lol “I’m the oldest!!! I’m the eldest!” Hahahha
basically u want the show to be corny af
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I totally agree, I wanted Kendall to gain some power, at least for awhile, I am sick and tired of Kendall being Logan’s pet whipping boy, and Roman pushing Kendall down was pathetic and lowest point for me. I thought season 3 repetitive rehashed with the exception of season finale. Is that all I should watch now on this show, is it season’s finales?
There's something so Shakespearean about the way this show does these conflicts and I love it! The way that they all live in a culture where material gains are more important than relationships ("it doesn't serve my interests, how does it serve my interests?" "love?" etc from That Scene) is so sad in a way and it brilliantly satirizes these big businesses.
I exclaimed loudly when you noted the parallel between Roman / Kendall’s comfort grip of each other’s shoulders when the other was down. Such astounding nuances in their performances in this episode!
And they are mirroring their father. In Boar on the Floor Logan puts his hands protectively on Kendall’s shoulders the same way
@@AroundTheWorldWithEase and also shiv in the intro and tom doing the same thing to her in the season finale
The call back to the Emperor Nero scene between Greg and Tom was amazing
You nailed it when you said that Tom's allegiance with Logan was in our face the entire season. I remember audibly gasping when Logan patted Tom's shoulder, and I IMMEDIATELY replayed everything Tom had done in my head and went "oh my god, its so obvious". Incredibly well written where the clues are just hidden enough to make you second guess what the true intent is.
I went into this show thinking it might be OK. I came out craving more.
Jeremy Strong was actually never supposed to sit down in this scene, the crew was getting mad he did it for continuity issues and he got so messy after doing it they just decided to keep it and did some reshoots, so it’s great we can pull so much out of something accidental
That "crew" definitely have no idea how acting works. Let them try imagine themselves in the position of Kendall who carried such s heavy burden and then finally confesses pressured with all those terrible emotions and.. doesn't collapse
@callmecatalystIt kind of makes you wonder tho, if all that method acting takes a toll on a person. I’m sure it must. To stay in character for all that while , especially a character so intense . It’s very hard to take that home with you every night.
Jeremy Strong. I was shocked & speechless over his performance. He blew me out of the water in season 2, and season 3 was the best acting I've ever seen. Anywhere.
Oh, and Tom fought back against Shiv's abuse. I love it.
An interesting thing about long-running series is the way that some actors deliver such compelling performances that “supporting “ roles move into the centre of action. Earlier, the idea of Tom and Greg coming out on top would have been like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern returning in the fifth act of Hamlet to take over the throne of Denmark. But here we are with Tom looking like a major power.
That said, I don’t think that Tom will come out on top. Like The Godfather, this show is about family, and I can’t see Logan rewarding Tom for stabbing “Pinky” in the back. Logan has a long history of manipulating people by dangling prizes on front of them, and while he might value Tom as an intelligence asset, I don’t see him handing Tom the Crown Jewels.
Also I always thought that Tom offering himself up as a sacrificial lamb would make Logan respect him less, not more
@@sarahlang2119 I disagree and think Tom stepping up and offering to save Logan, save Waystar-Royco, save Logan from having to send his child to prison was something Logan deeply appreciated. Then Tom again saves Logan by informing him of the coup being attempted by his children to stop the sale to Gojo and proved to Logan that Tom is trustworthy and the true killer that none of his kids are.
@@BlyGuy I guess that it's a tribute to the writing and acting that we are talking about what Logan/Tom/Shiv etc. will do, as if they were real people, not characters in a drama. That is to say, Tom's destiny will depend on the direction that Jesse Armstrong wants to take the series.
Tom's character has followed an interesting arc. In season 1, he was a buffoon who's presence in the inner circle depended entirely on his relationship with Shiv. Hence the cringeworthy groveling and insecurity. Fast forward and he has become more confident - or is that arrogant. I'm reminded of the concepts of hubris and nemesis. "Pride cometh before the fall " a reliable component of Greek drama.
@@BlyGuy yeah he appreciates him, but I don’t think those decisions made Logan think that Tom should be CEO - quite the contrary
The trigger for Kendall to break down is also great.. In a pretty empty area he sees a bunch of waiting staff, and the past comes into mind.. Also, when they get into the car to confront Logan, Kendall pats a waiting staff person, now he kind of feels empathetic to them..
Oh yeah, this was also brilliant! I saw this stuff being picked up and mentioned everywhere, so I felt to bring that up in the video would be unnecessary. But great catch! The interview where the director explains that moment with the waiting staff is fascinating.
@@thegreenreels Ohh okay.. I understand why you skipped it.. You are right, many people did mention it..
After watching the finale, I went back and rewatched the whole series....wow, a whole different experience, I saw sooo many signs leading up to this. And Tom was treated so much worse by Shiv than I thought.
I will do the same, the show definitly deserves another watch, I am sure I'll see it on another level, and will see many things..
The thing I noticed when I rewatched it also was how many times Roy mentioned child/sexual abuse. Could their dad have done something so terrible? He mentions it on relation to his brothers but I get the feeling it might jave been the dad. His memory is off perhaps as self protection. 😳
When watching it the first time around I think you think she's just beiny cute and joking. The more you get to know her and to large part her family you realise they're mostly just being honest assholes most of the time.
@@Yolduranduran given that he has whip marks on his back makes me think that Logan's father wasn't above sexual abuse as well...
@@Yolduranduran yeah and i also noticed roman making sexual comments towards his younger sister (shiv) and making her very uncomfortable
Connor`s wedding DID get a little crazy
I was relieved too but also because I wanted to say some of those things to him. He did try to save the kid, it was an accident. They shouldn't have been doing drugs and he was definitely culpable but he didn't murder anyone.
I'm a huge fan of Succession and I've rewatched the season 3 finale five times, it's truly a masterpiece! Loved your commentary, thank you for noticing all those details and nuances in the last scenes!
I think Greg is going to end up being the most powerful character. His change is very noticeable.
@callmecatalyst I think that's what makes it more gratifying if Greg ends up on top. Given his first scene in the show it would be the most ironic ending.
I actually think his arc is heading towards prison honestly. At best I could see Ewan dying and leaving him his seat, possibly becoming a relevant player for a Roy kid.
Tomelette. Greggs.
Thank you!
I think the same!
I've always think that he is the underdog and that he will be screwing everyone at the end...
Definitely. Mainly because, he, contrary to Tom, has the family's blood.
Great analysis 👌 That scene when Kendall says “I’m all appart” broke me 😭
I haven’t loved a show this much since Mad Men. There are no weak links. And I loved every episode of this season. I can never guess where the story is taking us, but when we get there, you realize that all the signs were there…like Tom’s betrayal
Agree - definitely up there with mad men for me
I always knew Logan was going to win at the end of the third season, what kept me on watching the finale is me wanting to know HOW he was going to get away with that, and it was fantastic; Shiv didn't consider Tom as someone of worth and that was her (and her brothers) downfall.
that's not true, i mean they make jokes about tom's background, but she had always served his interests from the start, im rewatching season 1 and shiv is pushing tom to be the next potential CEO, even in season 2, she wants tom beside her as she climbs up the ladder
You are not pretentious. You're insightful and eloquent. New sub!
As Morty would say: "Aw gee" mate, thank you for the kind words!
Tom went from "hihi I'm a little boy I can't lie look at my ding-dong" to fucking best character in succession. Amazing what they did w him, he's been perfect.
id argue tom is the character with the most layers to him which makes him so compelling to watch, he’s really come into his own this season and i would love to see him win over the siblings
The best pet about that scene is that Tom was right. It was the family and Gerry that wanted to push it under the rug and hope nobody found out. If Tom used his original plan and got ahead of the issue by having a press conference and threw the managers who no longer worked there under the bus it would have gone well. They could have put it all on Lester and then Lester would have still died later making it a non-issue
@@lifotheparty6195 i completely forgot about that, you’re right! If they had listened to Tom they could’ve avoided everything
Hell get beat by Greg tho. Already has a few times.
Don’t sleep on Greg tho
This show is absolutly phenomenal on all levels !! Watched and loved some series but that one ! Waow above and beyond, and Jeremy Strong is above amazing in his acting,he's overwhelming, I can feel every single emotion that goes through him, it's fascinating, he IS Kendall .. My new favorite actor!
The greatest scene in TV from 2021 was that Tom and Greg scene, ‘Will you come with me, Sporus?’
Everytime I think succession couldn't come up with a better season than the previous one, they come up with a whole new level of creativeness. Kudos to Jesse Armstrong for creating one of the best TV shows.
Betrayal with a kiss. How poetic
Just that shot of Kendall in the foreground, Shiv in the center and Roman in the background was brilliant.
I am so happy that Greg is in the centre of all this power moves lmao the guy was on the verge of homelessness, and now he is rising through the ranks.
He might even end up becoming Europe's weirdest king.
@@camiq1358 If you know anything about European history you would know Greg might become King but he has no chance of becoming Europe's weirdest king
He will end up with the power but to get there he will have to lose himself. I think Greg will be endgame.
I think Shiv and Tom will mirror Logan and Kendall in the way that the underdogs will finally earn the respect that they never had before because they betrayed them. I just remember the slight smirk/smile on Logan’s face in S2’s finale, when Kendall betrayed him during the press conference. Obviously Logan feels many things for Kendall, but I’m willing to bet that one of them is (kind of) pride, and in a way, respect, like “Ah, I enjoy this game and I enjoy a good adversary.”
Shiv always underestimated Tom and thinks that he’s one of the weaker players in the game. Like Logan said in the family therapy episode in S1, “you married someone beneath your station because you’re so afraid of getting betrayed.” Now that Tom has proven himself to be one of the top players all along, she finally sees that he is on her level, if not higher. If their marriage doesn’t end in divorce (lol), they might actually start to love each other in a way that would work for the both of them. It would ofc be a messed up way to work through their marital problems, but again they are all messed up people.
But that’s just my theory. 🤷🏻♀️
Although this season did a great job of physically depicting each sibling’s emotional journey, especially the way that the camera shots were done, re-watching the earlier episodes made me long for the clever dialogue of season 1, which has so far been unmatched.
I would disagree that Tom won. Winning the Logan way, under Logan's control is the opposite of winning, Winning would have been to extricate himself from the company and marriage. However this route is definitely much more fun.
Completely agree with this! Deals with the devil always come with strings attached and I'm sure he'll find out the hard way next season. Nobody who willingly participates or depends on playing the Roy's inner circle power games leaves unscathed.
Seriously the finale is a gem. Thank you for bringing to the foreground some delicate details that I overlooked. Great job!
11:37 I’m so disappointed you didn’t mention what was really in our face the whole time and obvious in retrospect: Nero and Sporus. Nero kicked his wife down the stairs and killed her. Nero then claims a slave named Sporus, castrates him, dressed him in women’s clothing, and quickly married him. This is play by play how it happened here, with Tom killing Shiv (as they have often used the term in business) and literally calls Greg “Sporus” before making him the offer to be at the “bottom of the top”
My goodnes did you knock it out of the park towards the end of the video. It was wonderful reliving those amazing moments from the episode while also hearing someone explain EVERYTHING I counsciously and subconsciously saw, but never said aloud.
Great review!! Thank you for letting me relive this episode in such an elaborate way.
All the best scenes in this whole show are where all three siblings are present in the scene.
I love the way Shiv holds her side like she's just been stabbed as she sits down. Tom is such a badass...you almost mistake all his moves as being weak and self-deprecating but they actually were more noble and put himself in the best possible position.
This could actually be because she is pregnant! Notice how she toasts with a glass of water earlier in the episode
@@harryb7535 yea she didnt accept drinks from the waiter either, early on that episode.
"noble" is the last word I'd use to describe Tom.
Words like slimy, pathetic, insecure, bully are words that come to mind.
@@tomisaacson2762 well yeah. i meant more in his loyalty to Logan. From logans POV.
@@harryb7535 she's shown to be drinking and smoking all the way up to the finale. I doubt she's pregnant
"Fuck off" and "Souls are boring. Boo, souls" are one of my two favorite quotes
I love this show, and I guarantee will rewatch it at least 3 times until the new season. Its like Veep, incredible writing , phenomenal acting from every actor and its f#$king hilarious.
Succession is NOT like a regular drama with every episodes leave with a cliffhanger. Its a shimmer just like life. Thw writing and acting keeps you hanging.
Beautifully put
BEST. SHOW. EVER. And yesss, a masterpiece of a finale.
Tom didn’t betray Shiv. There was nothing in their dynamic or relationship to betray
On the contrary, Shiv got what she deserved. Tom, though an asshole and sycophant, has treated Shiv pretty well I'd say.
@@HiddenWen yeah, he worshipped her
I am somehow upset about toms choice yet am cheering for him at the same time. Masterful writing…
Agreed. Tom knew it all along before shiv confessed she didn't love him. He was waiting and binding his time.
@@HiddenWen no i don't think she deserved it, from the first season, she had always served his interest like protecting him from her brothers and convincing logan for the top job like getting him the top position in atn, she had always been there for tom in every step, even willing to put her brother behind bars than having tom to face jail time
Bro the piano piece from Code Geass my most fave anime ever ✨💕
I was watching an analysis about Tom's decision and the author said "Tom did nothing wrong because Shiv did nothing right". Had no questions for Tom since then.
why no one talks about the book that Logan was reading to his grandson at the beginning of the episode? "Mog was tired, she was dead tired"……..
It’s like a blender. A lot of stuff mixed in one pitcher and the outcome is freaking delicious! It makes you want seconds after seconds after seconds!
Each season, we see Logan test and reject one of his children. In the first season, Logan rejects Kendall after he sells off a piece of the company while he is sick. In the second season, he tries out Shiv, but finds her lacking, too. Then, he rejects Roman because of his odd sexual behavior. And, in fact, none of the children are as smart and wily as Logan. Is Tom? He shows he is a killer by turning on Shiv. But does he have the other skills Logan requires? That's Season 4. My bet: Tom will also be rejected by Logan.
There's going to be a boardroom fight about the sale of the company - and remember Shiv has a seat now. In fact, the proper resolution for the company is to break it up into 3 or 4 independent pieces, with each one of the children getting a slice. No one can, in fact, replace Logan. The kids aren't in his league. But they could manage smaller companies. In real life, Murdoch sold off the bulk of his empire to Disney and only kept the news division, which he gave to his sons, James and Lachlan. Then, politics drove/forced James out.
"The Godfather" isn't really about Marlon Brando. It's about Al Pacino. Drama frequently is actually about the character who changes. Michael Corleone is the one who changes. In this case, many of the characters have changed. Shiv has gone from idealistic outsider to amoral insider. Roman has finally become able to stand up to his father. Kendall seems to have gained the confidence and love that he has been craving. Greg has gone from buffoon to...well, we're still not sure. But Tom seems to have changed completely - from considerate to conniving.
Can't wait for Season 4.
Logan's a shit. He won the boardroom coup because roman was so abused he craved for daddy, Ewan was a loon. He got incredibly lucky with the hostile takeover because of kens crash, and chose a CEO because of his boner. And keep in mind that he didn't really win last season. He just betrayed his kids, but he's divesting his legacy and retiring , thereby losing all political power being a news conglomerate gets him, simply because the company he tried to acquire ballooned so much in weeks the reverse happened. And this acquisition was to save his obsolete business; the hostile take over, the fine slapped by the feds all had nothing to do with it. His business just routinely slipped into a failure because he kept saying kendall wanted to buy a website. The dinosaurs era is long in the past.
And guess what might have helped him if he hadn't been hung up over unionizing, contradicted his own principle of Gotta burn if you want to turn? Stuck with kens original acquisition of vaulter that has relevance in this era. That's right; Ken's deal which logan decided to disinherit him over because he ran to an elevator instead of measuring dicks, was their only possible saving grace.
And keep in mind that toms paranoia, gregs snitching to gerrie are the only reasons most of the incriminating documents are gone. Things he had no control over. Toms press conference would have ruined him.
@@jaxsetbertoncarlism8873 i completely agree with you. i think the show tries really hard to give a sense of godlike aura to Logan when in reality he was really mediocre with his business-wise decision, much to it because of his outdated view on the economy and just his plain explosive, self entitled, child like temperament. one thing he is good at is at pushing the buttons of his subordinates (including the kids), making them do what he pleases. in my opinion, with a company this big, you have so much fat to burn before a decision ends up being one that kills the business that your team of consultants and experts are perfectly able to revert it, like the show ilustrates it for 3 seasons (even tho the company was bought in the end lol). i dont think logan is "one of a kind" or "the best ceo for the job", quite the opposite actually.
I agree. As you and Motorista Microlife detail below, Logan wins because he cheats and he's willing to do anything to come out on top, taking advantage of any weakness, even in those he claims to love. He's cunning and amoral. And I think this is part of the point of the show: he's not successful because he's full of insight or talent or vision or intelligence or any other attribute we like to use to glorify titans of capitalism; he's successful because he's an amoral tyrant. People are awed by him because he's rich and powerful; they don't stop to see that he actually doesn't possess any winning qualities, as a human being or even as a CEO. Still, his wealth and power are magnetic to those around him.
In fact, he’s like a former President.
Connor was the right choice all along
I loved this season finale. One thing i have to say is that the first time i saw it (seen it a couple of times now) when Shiv calls Tom on her way to see her dad, I said out loud "oh Tom's going to fuck em" my GF was like "what, no way" (and i usually suck at predictions on TV shows or movies, oh God, you should have heard the shit that i came up with for GoT lol) . I guess what im trying to say is that that conversation of Tom and Greg "making a deal with the devil" I always saw it as Tom is going to go with Logan, which kinda sucks i guess since it wasnt that much of a surprise at the end (i didnt know HOW he was going to fuck em but I saw it as a clear sunny day that he was going to do it). Best show of TV right now hands down. Great video.
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Thank you!
I forget if it was in the last episode but the guy that they ended up selling the company to was talking to Roman saying something like “Success is so easy” and ends up buying the company. I found it interesting because it was almost like Logan finally met his match, the new form of media taking on the old giant. and the success comment sounds awfully like “I fucking win”
That scene where Ken confesses reminded me of the flashback climax in Tenesee Williams' Suddenly Last Summer". Where another careless elite gets literally torn apart.
Coming a few weeks late to this review to say thank you very much for it. I am a die-hard Succession fan, was literally shouting at the TV screen during that 'revelation' of sorts of the final scene and can't wait for S 4. Your review helped me zoom in on the characters, the filming etc and get in a bit deeper.
I can't help but feel sorry for 'the kids', even though they are awful, awful characters, and that says a lot about the writing. As the poem goes, 'they f*ck you up, your mum and dad'...
Season 4 Episode 3 is now in consideration for the best episode ever.
So i started watching succession few weeks ago, sure i enjoyed it sm and to my luck, i thought season 4 was dropping in May, and as i was finishing the finale of season 3 few nights ago i realised tha the first episode of season 4 is dropping THAT NIGHT and you can imagine the joy i felt. I'm gratefull to finding this series now ❤
One of the best episodes ever made!
Disagree, good but could have been better. See my comment
It makes sense that the siblings are there for eachother because their parents are not so they must step in. It's common in dysfunctional families.
i had originally felt that this 3rd season was slow, but upon rewatch i realized that i felt that way due to the difference in experience when watching weekly airings vs watching it all at once/at my own pace. when i had to wait all week for the next episode, i would build extremely high expectations for it to be as event filled or exciting as an episode like the shareholder meeting, for example. and of course when you have overly high expectations and they dont get met, you then feel disappointed. conversely, when watching it at my own pace i quite enjoyed the ebb and flow of the show and saw the necessity for some of the more slow or quiet or less explosive moments. i havent watched a show with a weekly airing schedule in quite a long time, or if a show had been aired weekly originally, i had seen it after the fact and didnt experience it that way (e.g. other hbo shows like GOT or euphoria). its interesting how the different ways in which we consume media these days influence our perception of it.
this scene of the 3 of them is one of the best scenes I've ever seen on TV (and I've seen a lot of it!)
her tear wipe was almost as powerful as Kendall's lonely line
I saw Tom's betrayal coming from a mile away. I'm surprised it took him this long lol
Yeah there was a lot of foreshadowing. The only question was "when?"
This show is just epic ,
Best part , noone knows who to root for ...really. lol.
And the whole episode 5 when it was pandemonium from start to finish and towards the end , when Greg shares the idea that he wants to sue Greenpeace ....
Probably one of the funniest unforgettable scenes ever on TV.
He visto Los,t House the Cards, Los Soprano, Juego de Tronos, Breaking Bad, etc etc etc y esta SUCESSION merece estar en el Podio entre las más grandes de todos los tiempos
Logan only "always wins" because of how much power he has over everyone. Everyone is scared of him
Here's the thing I love about this show: most of the time, Logan's right. He was right not to give Kendall the CEO position, he's right not to trust it to the other siblings, and he's right to sell the company. None of them are capable, or quite frankly deserves it. And by selling he's also looking out for their interests and getting them a bigger piece of the pie.
But at the same time, the reason they're all such flawed people is because of the way he raised them. He constantly manipulates and beats them down, giving them false hope when there's none to be given. He even pulled Shiv out of a promising political career, only to toss her to the side.
But my absolute favorite thing about this show is that I firmly believe Logan does actually love his children. Like Kendall says, it's a wrong kind of love expression, but it's genuine, fatherly love. It adds a whole another layer of complexity to his character and the show itself.
There's so much left unexplored about Logan that I'd love to see.
I agree. He actually is making the correct decision and has every season but the way he goes about it is so abusive and manipulative. But he's doing the correct thing...
Yes! I just saw an interview with Brian Cox and he said he asked Jesse Armstrong, Succession showrunner, did Logan love his children and Jesse said yes. But since Logan is so flawed, that fatherly love is dysfunctional. They need to do a prequel set in Scotland, cuz something there fucked him and his brother up. Like what's up with not mentioning their dead sister???
he's making pretty horrible desicions. he should have stepped down and gave ceo to Kendall who actally have any kind of understanding of how to transfer this outdated company into 21st century. Logan is the odd one out in the world of thechnology and social media, he doesn't understnad the world moved on. all good ideas was Kendall's, including buying gopro. if Logan listened to Kendall earlear he wouldn't have to sell the company.
@@sota2729 well yes there is that. but I don't know that Kendall actually has what it takes but he should be listened to. I do think the company would have done fine with him as CEO but I sort of get why Logan doesn't want any of the kids to have the company haha. Its weird. I have sympathy for the kids but at the same time I sort of think they're idiots. and Logan is an unwavering asshole but sort of also has a point.
Can you imagine being someone whose love shown by cruel manipulating game? Only Logan if he does love them.
Tu é BR hein. Digo mais: CARIOCA. Baita conteúdo! Essa série é sensacional, consumo muitto conteúdo secundário de Succession e teu vídeo chegou até mim através disso hahahaha. Parabéns, furou a bolha
Detalhe pra trilha do vídeo, com peças que lembram o piano de succession
Opa, valeu aí mano! Mas pior que não sou carioca não huhauahuahuah
@@thegreenreels Parabéns mesmo, conteúdo irado. Se conseguir, faz mais de succession que ainda tem muito interesse residual. E tem público! Boa sorte, mano!
Great analysis!
HUGE CONGRATS to the episode's writer Jesse Armstrong, actor Matthew Macfadyen, and the entire cast/crew of Succession for their Emmy wins this season (Writing, Supporting Actor, Best Drama). Everyone hit their mark on this episode and really made something spectacular.
Huge fan. Beautiful episode, perhaps the best of the series, so far. However, another show with a better episode than this one?
I mean no disrespect at all towards the phenomenal Succession, but...
Breaking Bad's Ozymandias is just so goddamned perfect. How could one forget?
I mean we're talking Emmy wins for Best Actor, Supporting Actress, Writing (the first three being for "Ozymandias", alone), Supporting Actor, Drama, and Editing, with nominations for directing, writing (again), editing (again TWO more times), sound editing, sound mixing, cinematography, makeup, and prosthetic makeup in just the last season.
I cannot get enough of anything to do with this brilliant show. it is flawless.
Just finished season 3 and discovered your channel. Awesome stuff!
Even if no one told Logan that the kids were planning to stop the sale/merger , and they showed up unannounced, after that point Logan can just make a phone call to his ex wife and then make the same deal. It would just be an hour’s delay on the deal.
Oh, that wonderful succession theme! Like acid rain 🌧 falling, falling. It reminds me of the feels I got from hearing sopranos theme, but in the opposite direction.
I think season 4 will be Connor's turn, but Tom is already so far ahead, I don't know how Connor could win.
Some of my favorite scenes of this show are the interactions between Greg and Tom in all seasons. 🤓
Subscription earned. Well done!
Grew up in a dysfunctional family with trauma bonds. This is the most realistic portrayal of that I’ve ever seen. This is my favorite episode of TV ever.
100% spot on - Best review
Absolutely the best. Brilliant actors brilliant plots fantastic
Best Assessment of last episode season 3... right on!
Wow you have the acumen of a TH-camr with a much bigger following! Subbed and can’t wait to see you blow up
great review!
Great analysis!! My favourite episode too
AMAZING BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF ART
CONNOR ROY IS THE ELDEST SON! HE IS! AND HE WAS INTERESTED IN POLITICS FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE! HE WAS!
Good analysis. That Chopin mazurka/ and the bit from the Seventh... sweet.
Wow, the algo rained down on you, great video essay, subscribed
Dude you deserve so much more subs! All the best!
Best show post the GPT era (so of the last half decade)
I loved it bro. How you explaining everthing. please make more of this kind on web-series