Why is it that every time I try to find a video about BASIC off road riding, I get stuff like this with pro's jumping rocks, trees, hill climbing, fording rivers, etc? How about some beginner videos, with basic tips on when to sit, stand, shifting weight around? Maybe tips on cornering, braking , on gravel vs sand, handling small ruts, etc?
this is perfect timing…i came off the DR the other day, have just started to stand up now that i have higher bars and lower pegs… already doing wonders for my confidence on the bike
+evo moto That's fantastic! Higher bars do so much to help with standing! There are pros and cons to being tall... my friend can easily touch the ground on his XR, but has a hard time standing.
Great advice. Standing, sitting and dabbing/waddling are all critical techniques for being safe, conserving energy and having fun out on the trails. I hear of a lot of ADV riders that insist on either standing or sitting all the time and I can only scratch my head at them lol
+BBQ Rider Yeah I don't think there's sense in "always" doing one style or another because you're not "always" on the same terrain, right? :) Then again, advocating for standing who people who refuse to isn't a bad thing ;)
eveRide ADV That's true, but here in SA we're currently experiencing a trend, very popular amongst BMW GS riders, to stand up ALL the time, even on tar (pavement). We call it meerkatting, because they always stand straight up with knees locked. Apparently a few BMW-backed adventure training schools have been teaching riders to stand all the time, but haven't been teaching them when NOT to stand, so now they stand, even when lane splitting or riding around town
+BBQ Rider Hahahah no lie I had a good laugh about that :D To buy one of the most comfortable ADV tourers out there and then stand on it all the time... hahahah that's just funny :D
+shadetree surgeon That's something that I've just never had the patience to do. Usually when I get out there I'm like, "Okay time to practice... orrrrrrrr I could just go have fun!" I suck at discipline!
I would like to add something to the. waddling that is very important, slipping the clutch. One of the best ways to gain momentum is to slightly slip the clutch rather than relying on the engine to chug you along. I personally only use 1 or 2 fingers and lightly slip the clutch when the engine begins to bog. the idea is not to completely disengage the clutch, but rather to spool up the engine a little while maintaining clutch drag. Back when everyone used to race 2 strokes, it was the best way to launch out of a corner. I see a lot of new riders trying to rely on the torque of their 4 strokes only to stall out.
+Beyond2Wheels That is VERY good advice! I actually had a little bit about slipping the clutch in the original video, but didn't want it to go too long or get into advanced stuff. I'll have to do a "clutch feather" video soon, along with the standing video and turning video. Sooo many things to learn when you're new... since I didn't learn them back then, I've developed bad habits and have had to relearn them.
I'm glad I kinda learned this indirectly from my long hours on mountain bicycle from early age, and i'm glad I made my mistakes and falls on paddling 2-wheeler instead of engined one. no guarantee I'll not screw up from now but I think I'm more confident with that long background. but having this video is a good refresher and hopefully something I can apply (when I have enough money to justify buying a dual-sports) cheers!
I use my streetrod 750 everyday on the streets but I have recently returned from West Virginia where I did some light adv riding no add ons or dirt tires and I loved what I rode I have to convert it
Brilliant video information Thank you! I went on my first ride deep in Laos PDR wilds and your voice in my head kept me up in the pegs or over the bars, waddling etc... I had a great time and impressed experience riders! All your advice . cheers!!
I love the wipout! I did that on a jump a couple months ago. with my son and nephew watching. I somhow landed on the rear fender and my helmet. It knocked a rib loose. But I still ride like im 20 year's younger and 80lbs lighter!
+james wilson Ahhhhh yeah! I think I knocked a few ribs loose on that one, too. Feeling a bit better today, but ouch! It hurt! The worst part was that when I played it back I thought it was really funny, so I kept laughing and that hurt worse!
+eveRide ADV There you go. Focus your inner Gumby abilities, go limp and ride it out. Don't stiffen up. That's when things break. And of course your continued support for ATGATT
Great Video,I haven't been riding off road on my XT500 back in the late 70s,been riding sports bikes for the past ten years. Just bought a brand new XR650 waiting for the snow to melt. I thank you for these tips, this vid brings back memories thanks again
Thank you for this video. I’m watching it after falling multiple times on the sand.. I was frustrated b.c I didn’t know wtf I was getting myself into .
Great info for the newbies. I think everyone develops their own techniques as they fail when riding gnarly stuff. I know I handle obstacles different then you or Hermit, but we always use the same base technique. I can't wait to get Xena back tomorrow!
Good tips! I'll be sure to try them next time Im out. Also for newbies like me having all the gear would be a big plus, if you were to go for a epic dismount! (and scream for Brent!) All joking aside I need some boots and pants before I push my self for any thing faster.
Outstanding video - thank you again! This was my 2nd year on an ADV bike and 1st year on a DS, so I'm soaking up your videos within days after they come out. You rock!
That's all good, sound advice. Couple things I'd add is that proper bike control is primarily about SAFETY (to me at least). Another is that professional off road training is the BEST farkle you'll ever buy. I've learned (and unlearned) a great deal from this. Lastly, waddling with hard panniers is asking for TROUBLE. Leave your panniers at home if you can or get soft panniers if you ride off road a lot. Just my $0.02.
+XL Adventure Motorcycle Rider Very, VERY good tips there. I actually talked about panniers in the draft, but that part didn't make the cut. I would actually love to attend a Dual Sport riding school and unlearn all of my bad habits. I'm sure I could learn a ton!
+Hobbz-Garage Yeah it's really freaky. I remember my first times trying to stand up... and I got burned out SOOOO quick! It felt so weird! That, and my arms were just killing. Now standing is easier, and man it makes a difference!
So your KTM 1190 review helped me choose my first dual-sport bike and your tips kept me just that much safer today on my first proper off-road trail (I did drop the bike once, and bruised my wrist and my ego) I really wanted to just say thank you for such great videos, both the content and the delivery are first class! Ride safe!
I went with the 1190, I've taken it out on the trail once so far, very cautiously and with a heap of your tips running through my head, helping keep me alive :) For those of us in places like Australia who often can't buy off Amazon is there another way to support you? You should sell a t-shirt or a cap! Thanks again!!
Well, I don’t even have my full UK licence yet, but I am looking ahead to where I’d like to take my riding too once I get going, and the freedom of trail riding looks exciting, challenging and exhilarating. This is the first video I have watched on this topic and I will say that your commentary is clear and eloquent and the photography is super. Thanks and I look forward to watching more of your content 😁
OH MAN... that sounds you made!!! hahhaha I know that sound. haha Great video.. one I will for sure share with new riders. I might also add as a HUGE help for new riders, is to watch ahead, not at the tire. Look ahead in corners, look ahead in hill climbs, just always look ahead. That all helps you not focus on the rocks or obstacles as much, letting you rip right through it. So many people all of a sudden "get it" and say to me "now I know what you mean by look ahead"... and ride so much better in that one little realization. But I think getting people to stand while riding is one of the best leaps in their skill for sure.
+TWiGs ADV (Chris) Man the "look ahead" tip was one that probably made the biggest difference for me. When I cook up the next tip video I'll definitely be talking about it, becuase you're absolutely right!
I grew up riding dirt, no lessons after i knew the controls, learned all the lessons the hard way. Getting loose on the pavement never scares me cause its like sliding through the dirt.
+Battle Born Supermoto I still have a long way to go before I'd be able to control a slide on pavement, I think. Last time I slid on pavement I spent more time on my back than on the bike :)
Stunting also helps! Some guy slammed on his brakes when i was riding him kind of close trying to make it through the intersection. Ended up doing a stoppie and landing sideways behind him. The being stupid helps when it gets scary.
Great video even though its older. I appreciate the tips as I am just beginning my off road riding after riding Harleys for lots of years. The area your riding in seems oddly familiar. I am in Four Corners on the Colorado side. May just see you on the trail! Thanks again. I'll check out the rest now
Our group had guys with beat up honda street bikes riding through those kind of trails, they would haul ass, get air-born and cross creeks right along with us.
Great video, I'm sorry I laughed so hard when you flipped backward but the Oh Brent really got me! I need so much more practice on those hill climbs, I just freeze up and usually fall over, lol!
+Hawk Girl (Misty Varner) The really hard part about this hill was that it wasn't even that bad! I just took a terrible line to the left, then got over it, but whisky throttled out of it and ended up on my back! Ah well :)
+eveRide ADV I did a 100 miles on the Idaho BDR on it. It was tough and lots of fun. Need to get a camera and start recording or else it didn't happen haha
+Dan Hillam (adventureDan) Haha I kinda thought about that as I was releasing the video... not many people in the Northern Hemisphere will be able to get out and practice, but it's something to think about when it's a bit frosty!
Overall there are two simple keys for riding adventure motorcycles off-road - get lots of experience and swap street tires for serious dual-sport tires. (Get Continental TKC-80s. Their traction on the street and their longevity are uncompromised by their badass treads). Here are some basic off-road skills… • Favor the rear brake except in emergencies, in which case try your best to straighten the front wheel first before using the front brake and rear brake together. Using the front brake tends to make the front tire knife into the dirt surface and trip the bike up. • Similarly, keep the wheels straight when turning from asphalt to dirt, ideally making the turn completely on the asphalt part and entering the dirt surface at a 90° angle. If you enter the dirt at a shallower angle, treat it like a curve and counterbalance (see below). • Know when to be aggressive on the throttle and when to be gentle on it (sometimes the best defense is a good offense, other times overconfidence will hurt). Speed and momentum are crucial on the softer stuff, but too much will backfire and destabilize the bike. You have to develop a feel for exactly how much throttle by practicing on different surfaces. • Ride standing up in rougher terrain. That makes all the difference because it lowers the bike's center of gravity and makes it more maneuverable. Remember to keep your knees slightly bent to allow your legs to flex, and lean slightly forward on straight sections, more forward the steeper any climbs get. On downhills, reverse that and keep your butt rearwards. • When encountering a road with ruts, either stay inside the ruts or outside the ruts. The problem is continually going back and forth in and out of a rut, making it an edge trap, which can throw the bike down. If the rut is so narrow that your tires are continually hitting against the sides of the rut, that's an edge trap, so only ride outside of that rut. • When riding on softer stuff, shift your weight rearwards to give the rear tire more bite - that also has the advantage of making the front tire "ski" more, creating less drag and making it less likely to trip you. • Counterbalance generously on curves, getting your hips outside the lean and weight on the outside pegs. You should be one gear lower for the speed - that discourages swinging wide and gives you more engine braking if you encounter a surprise around the bend. Your outside leg will be mostly bent, the inside leg mostly straight. Know that you can always make your turn sharper by leaning further (I usually like to just straighten out my lower side arm for that). • When going over mounds, you need to use finesse on the throttle, going from aggressive to gentle at just the right moment heading up, then be relaxed and confident while finessing the rear brake as you go down the other side. Like with everything else, you get better at it with practice. • When encountering hard obstacles you can't maneuver around, (with your butt off the seat and legs flexed), as the front tire gets to the obstacle, hit the throttle a little as you pull up on the handlebars while leaning slightly rearwards (as if to wheelie but not actually doing so) then pogo-stick the rear suspension as the obstacle reaches your rear tire. Practice that in an empty parking lot with a piece of two-by-four. And here's a good video if you ever get seriously stuck... th-cam.com/video/kYf2iUY4jZ8/w-d-xo.html
Hi Fred Gassit's, see aehy've only got basic experience in dirt bikes and you know it there's things that if you're going fast enough you'll bounce over them and things that stop you, going into gear carrying dirt bikes means lifting said dirt bikes over logs so look at the 125cc it's light and if you're into kick start get kick/electric because when you're on a hill you can use electric start.
Good video bro! Lots of good footage. Good basic tips. I'd like to see your tips explained in more detail over a single stretch of trail at a time though with all of the necessary inputs explained.
i went up a grade 8 -9 hill today 160 meter climb up very dry loose dirt very steep with 5 foot erosion kickers that wash your speed off , damn steep climb in thick forest , got up only just with half worn 606 and 15x41 gearing , it took all of my 40 years off road skills to get the drz 400 up this mofo of hill ,no other way out ,had to back track from a fallen tree blocking trail , dont go down hills you dont think you can get back up ,,,hehe ,
@@sputnik5s436 It did help me. I got a tiger 1050 because the sport just wasn't doing well, go figure lol. I don't do anything like off the trail riding but the ranches I go to don't have paved roads, it's all rocky.
I actually hurt my knee, badly while waddling in stuff I should have been standing in. Standing is the standard and especially keeping the ball of the feet on the peg's on the nasty stuff so you keep traction in the rear and keep your toes out of the way of things that could potentially catch your feet otherwise.
+Gnarlington Ahhhh man so true! I have smacked my toes plenty of times, but before I stood up I'd waddle through everything, and I was always wrecking my knees and falling over.
Thanks for a great channel. love the videos and tips. I recently got back into dual sport after 20 years. I picked up a 96 dr350SE and have been fixin on her since. I'll be in st.George over presidents day weekend. Hopefully be able to hit a few trails while I'm there.
+Tankerman Hahahahah crashing is just the way I learn! Nothing solidifies the riding tip of "GET UP ON THE TANK!" better than a hefty loop-out and some mashed up ribs!
Great footage, got myself a 250 dual to use through winter and I've done some mild of road since, it's an absolute riot but I'm still trying to get comfortable with the less grippy stuff (been on road bikes for 7 years so im rather more used to having things stick!) Great video I'll try and put this into practice!
this is great...so yesterday i dropped well more like gracefully layed my brand new klr on the ground..i went to kick up the stand and my little legs hand other plans i held the bike at a 45 for about 30 seconds trying to upright it and not drop it while the whole time hitting the horn so everyone saw my struggle so i said screw it and laid it down gental like laughed and picked it back up which wasnt too bad
+Josh Goldberg HHAHAHAHAHAH! Oh man that sounds like an epic first drop :) KLRs are invincible, though... but even then, I'm glad you laid it down gentle. It's always scary to lay a bike down for the first time, and man I don't know how many times I've held the bike at a 45 in that life-or-death situation trying not to fall over! Hahaha 90% of the time I lost :D
+DRZcoffeegirl Ride There should be some more vids like this coming soon. I can't decide on whether this Saturday's video should be another how-to, or something a bit more light-hearted... I'm thinking of doing a negative campaign style ad for "posers" in the community. What do you think? :)
Awesome film buddy! Cool videos. I started watching them after riding buddy’s dual sport bike. Fantastic feeling of freedom. Looking for my first something likely klr 650 unlikely drz400 price wise
Very soon I hope. Its feeling good it gets better everyday. I go to the Doc tomorrow afternoon, I'm looking forward to good news! Both me and the bike are wanting and need some throttle therapy...
Its more try out what help on your personnel riding style.i have done some critical obstacles "deep gravel with some bigger rocks between " way easyer sitting than standing and i try it many times to test what works for me. I sit most time and stand up if it necessary at thougher trials like obstacles or high speed or jumps..Its like kick start or electric start (sitting or standing) electric start can save you so much energy for riding especialy in a competition. Try it out for yourself its not a "law" to stand any time. Watch FIM Enduro comp riders no one there stands any time only when its necessary they stand.But hey ,hurting is no fun for me ha ha!
Love your videos and have benefitted from many of your tips. Although you, personally, might not be the one to demo it, I would find it enormously helpful to see a video on how tall riders(like 6'3" or more with long legs and a 36" sleeve length) can best deal with standing and waddling. Standing on the pegs is not quite the same for someone my height as it is for someone of more normal size, like 5'8" - 5'10" !!!
Glad you like the idea. Can't wait to see what you do and hope it comes before I either go over the handlebars trying to stop or have my 500EXC drive right out from under me while accelerating !!!
Lean forward when going uphill, lean backwards downhill, keep center when going straight otherwise if you lean too far forward and have to brake you will fly forward and could take the bike with you.
In case you are accepting topics to include in future videos... What about navigating thru ruts. Is it better to completely avoid them and ride on the side of the trail, stick to one and pray, or try to cruise in between them?
+Jacobo Julio Menajovsky Oh man ruts are just such a beast. I think it always depends on the rut. My general rule right now for ruts is just to apply a generous amount of profanity :)
+stew tube You're very welcome! There will be a more detailed vid about standing (with some drills) coming out soon... hopefully that one helps some folks out, as well :)
+eveRide ADV haha less of a shred and more of an awkward meander :) Yeah have been a bit slack on the old video front. It is warm at the moment. but that is no excuse. Work has just had me on full time and it is really draining. Really missing it though. I am itching to get some sort of vid out before xmas. Save travels out there mate!
+Heartland Dual Sport I sure will try to! It's hard to keep riding when I keep getting smacked around. That loop-out was just yesterday, and I may be busted some ribs :\
eveRide ADV Oh man, that is not good, I have broke a couple in the past, you feel it with every breath. You don't notice how much you actually breath in a day until you have a broken rib or two. heheh. Good luck buddy and I hope you heal up soon.
Now I just need somewhere to ride... Closest park near me is 2 hours away, and from what i heard the trails are destroyed from 4wheelers and just unproper care of everything out there(even though it cost $10 to get in without an ABATE membership). I guess ill keep searching :L
What a lesson, young people has to given a chance, to feel,touch and,we have to give Ride. Ride doesn't one is perfect. Remember a life not.aDDrive safe.
hahahahaha I watched that over and over, not because I like seeing you get hurt but damn those were some funny sounds ahahahaha :-) Some great tips there, but maybe should have mentioned that waddling also wears you out really quickly, just something I have found as I am far...... very far from being an experience rider so I used it a lot in the past.
+Andy Pandy Motovlogs Ahhh yeah waddling can be really brutal if you're trying to lift the bike. Since I've adjusted the way I waddle I do it far less, but it's a lot less exhausting to just kinda keep the legs up to stabilize rather than to push. It's still far more work than standing, though!
Really dig the videos and tips you put together for our viewing pleasure. I know this may come a little off topic but have you ever done a comparison of the KLR650 and a DR650?
Fantastic video. I look forward to your standing video especially if you can talk about the transistion from standing to sitting during a hill climb as it relates to momentum. As always your videos are well done. BTW, what rally shroud is your friend running on his bike at 4:18?
+BlackshawClan I look forward to making that video for you! The fairing is a HDB or Highway Dirt Bike fairing... they're a bit pricey but VERY nice and last forever.
Be sure want anything to do here would like to get any time to do with motors. The motor was falling down we're like to with menter to with wheels like a tricycle.
+eveRide ADV I believe Yuri said something to the effect of the ladies in the class are smarter than the guys and didn't need something that rhymed to remember it ;-)
This is my first road th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and I have taken it out a handful of times and so far it is exceeding all of my expectations. I didn’t want to break the bank on a first bike and the herd is a great option for getting a fast bike with reliable components. I plan on riding this bike for many years to come. Thank you Sava!
Love watching your vids. New to riding, and some of your vids have been helpful. Like this one, have the standing down, now to work on the waddle. Enjoying the journey so far. Have a KLR 250! Hubby wanted to know about the sweatshirt at 1:35, he likes your vids too. Thank you for all the info
Excellent tips delivered with trademark humility. Noobs of the World, Unite!
+osimnod Ahhh yeah!
Would love to see tips on how to best control the throttle when standing.
+Ojisan642 Your wish is my command! Coming right up :)
Ojisan642
Better question:
how should I throttle,
when I waddle?
With your wrist lol not being a smart ass but there is braking wrist position and acceleration wrist position
There is ALSO a “breaking” your wrist position but that’s what we’re trying to prevent here right?? Cheers!!
Why is it that every time I try to find a video about BASIC off road riding, I get stuff like this with pro's jumping rocks, trees, hill climbing, fording rivers, etc? How about some beginner videos, with basic tips on when to sit, stand, shifting weight around? Maybe tips on cornering, braking , on gravel vs sand, handling small ruts, etc?
this is perfect timing…i came off the DR the other day, have just started to stand up now that i have higher bars and lower pegs… already doing wonders for my confidence on the bike
+evo moto That's fantastic! Higher bars do so much to help with standing! There are pros and cons to being tall... my friend can easily touch the ground on his XR, but has a hard time standing.
Great advice. Standing, sitting and dabbing/waddling are all critical techniques for being safe, conserving energy and having fun out on the trails. I hear of a lot of ADV riders that insist on either standing or sitting all the time and I can only scratch my head at them lol
+BBQ Rider Yeah I don't think there's sense in "always" doing one style or another because you're not "always" on the same terrain, right? :) Then again, advocating for standing who people who refuse to isn't a bad thing ;)
eveRide ADV
That's true, but here in SA we're currently experiencing a trend, very popular amongst BMW GS riders, to stand up ALL the time, even on tar (pavement). We call it meerkatting, because they always stand straight up with knees locked. Apparently a few BMW-backed adventure training schools have been teaching riders to stand all the time, but haven't been teaching them when NOT to stand, so now they stand, even when lane splitting or riding around town
+BBQ Rider Hahahah no lie I had a good laugh about that :D To buy one of the most comfortable ADV tourers out there and then stand on it all the time... hahahah that's just funny :D
I can't wait to show this to Jessica, we're going out this Monday specifically to practice different techniques rather than joy ride
+shadetree surgeon That's something that I've just never had the patience to do. Usually when I get out there I'm like, "Okay time to practice... orrrrrrrr I could just go have fun!" I suck at discipline!
Heh... well it remains to seen how disciplined we can be LOL
I learned how to drift the rear tire through a corner on pavement today, avoiding a head on with a four wheel drive! enjoyed the video!
+Twistygrip KLR Oh YIKES! Haha I still have yet to master a drift... and I'd probably end up in the side of a car if that happened to me :)
Good tips all. I still haven't figured out the waddle with the two stroke
+Ride AMAP (As Much As Possible) No need to waddle when ya got full throttle! ;)
I would like to add something to the. waddling that is very important, slipping the clutch. One of the best ways to gain momentum is to slightly slip the clutch rather than relying on the engine to chug you along. I personally only use 1 or 2 fingers and lightly slip the clutch when the engine begins to bog. the idea is not to completely disengage the clutch, but rather to spool up the engine a little while maintaining clutch drag. Back when everyone used to race 2 strokes, it was the best way to launch out of a corner. I see a lot of new riders trying to rely on the torque of their 4 strokes only to stall out.
+Beyond2Wheels That is VERY good advice! I actually had a little bit about slipping the clutch in the original video, but didn't want it to go too long or get into advanced stuff. I'll have to do a "clutch feather" video soon, along with the standing video and turning video. Sooo many things to learn when you're new... since I didn't learn them back then, I've developed bad habits and have had to relearn them.
Just bought my first dual sport !! Cant wait for the snow to melt 😬 thks for the tips 🤟✌
I'm glad I kinda learned this indirectly from my long hours on mountain bicycle from early age, and i'm glad I made my mistakes and falls on paddling 2-wheeler instead of engined one. no guarantee I'll not screw up from now but I think I'm more confident with that long background. but having this video is a good refresher and hopefully something I can apply (when I have enough money to justify buying a dual-sports) cheers!
+VroomToRaftel Mountain bikes are great for developing technique for sure!
I use my streetrod 750 everyday on the streets but I have recently returned from West Virginia where I did some light adv riding no add ons or dirt tires and I loved what I rode I have to convert it
Brilliant video information Thank you! I went on my first ride deep in Laos PDR wilds and your voice in my head kept me up in the pegs or over the bars, waddling etc... I had a great time and impressed experience riders! All your advice . cheers!!
Good basic Tipps - Thanks. Please make other videos like that.
+Clutch Pumper I certainly will! Thanks :)
I love the wipout! I did that on a jump a couple months ago. with my son and nephew watching. I somhow landed on the rear fender and my helmet. It knocked a rib loose. But I still ride like im 20 year's younger and 80lbs lighter!
+james wilson Ahhhhh yeah! I think I knocked a few ribs loose on that one, too. Feeling a bit better today, but ouch! It hurt! The worst part was that when I played it back I thought it was really funny, so I kept laughing and that hurt worse!
Great info as usual. The only thing is you didn't cover my problem... When you run out of momentum and "Waddle" turns into "Stop Drop and Roll".
+ChaoticDetour Hahahaha that happens to everybody, man! Maybe I need to do a video on how to bail ;)
+eveRide ADV There you go. Focus your inner Gumby abilities, go limp and ride it out. Don't stiffen up. That's when things break. And of course your continued support for ATGATT
Great Video,I haven't been riding off road on my XT500 back in the late 70s,been riding sports bikes for the past ten years. Just bought a brand new XR650 waiting for the snow to melt. I thank you for these tips, this vid brings back memories thanks again
Tyler, this is perfect. Thanks so much. Noobs like me find this invaluable. Just the tips on standing help so much. Cheers.
+aseredy Always glad to help! I'll be doing another video on standing very shortly.
Thank you for this video. I’m watching it after falling multiple times on the sand.. I was frustrated b.c I didn’t know wtf I was getting myself into .
I feel you on this comment.
Great info for the newbies. I think everyone develops their own techniques as they fail when riding gnarly stuff. I know I handle obstacles different then you or Hermit, but we always use the same base technique. I can't wait to get Xena back tomorrow!
+ColoradoDualSport Are you guys going for a ride tomorrow?
Good tips! I'll be sure to try them next time Im out. Also for newbies like me having all the gear would be a big plus, if you were to go for a epic dismount! (and scream for Brent!) All joking aside I need some boots and pants before I push my self for any thing faster.
+Piston Slap Deffffffinitely grab some boots! Man I don't know how many times my leg would have been mangled without them!
Outstanding video - thank you again! This was my 2nd year on an ADV bike and 1st year on a DS, so I'm soaking up your videos within days after they come out. You rock!
+smccrory Awesome! Thanks so much!
That's all good, sound advice. Couple things I'd add is that proper bike control is primarily about SAFETY (to me at least). Another is that professional off road training is the BEST farkle you'll ever buy. I've learned (and unlearned) a great deal from this. Lastly, waddling with hard panniers is asking for TROUBLE. Leave your panniers at home if you can or get soft panniers if you ride off road a lot. Just my $0.02.
+XL Adventure Motorcycle Rider Very, VERY good tips there. I actually talked about panniers in the draft, but that part didn't make the cut. I would actually love to attend a Dual Sport riding school and unlearn all of my bad habits. I'm sure I could learn a ton!
I am thinking of planning one for the spring in Pahrump, NV w/Jimmy Lewis. I'm sure we could work you a deal. ;)
Great info. I really need to stand more when riding, but being newish it is scary to try and stand on the harder stuff.
+Hobbz-Garage Yeah it's really freaky. I remember my first times trying to stand up... and I got burned out SOOOO quick! It felt so weird! That, and my arms were just killing. Now standing is easier, and man it makes a difference!
So your KTM 1190 review helped me choose my first dual-sport bike and your tips kept me just that much safer today on my first proper off-road trail (I did drop the bike once, and bruised my wrist and my ego)
I really wanted to just say thank you for such great videos, both the content and the delivery are first class!
Ride safe!
+Graham Kent Thanks so much Graham! So did you get a 1190 or something else?
I went with the 1190, I've taken it out on the trail once so far, very cautiously and with a heap of your tips running through my head, helping keep me alive :) For those of us in places like Australia who often can't buy off Amazon is there another way to support you? You should sell a t-shirt or a cap!
Thanks again!!
My best mate bought a Vstrom based on your KLR comparison vid too :)
Well, I don’t even have my full UK licence yet, but I am looking ahead to where I’d like to take my riding too once I get going, and the freedom of trail riding looks exciting, challenging and exhilarating. This is the first video I have watched on this topic and I will say that your commentary is clear and eloquent and the photography is super. Thanks and I look forward to watching more of your content 😁
OH MAN... that sounds you made!!! hahhaha I know that sound. haha
Great video.. one I will for sure share with new riders. I might also add as a HUGE help for new riders, is to watch ahead, not at the tire. Look ahead in corners, look ahead in hill climbs, just always look ahead. That all helps you not focus on the rocks or obstacles as much, letting you rip right through it. So many people all of a sudden "get it" and say to me "now I know what you mean by look ahead"... and ride so much better in that one little realization. But I think getting people to stand while riding is one of the best leaps in their skill for sure.
+TWiGs ADV (Chris) Man the "look ahead" tip was one that probably made the biggest difference for me. When I cook up the next tip video I'll definitely be talking about it, becuase you're absolutely right!
My brother! So good. Great opening shot. When you hit 1m subs Iʻm going to brag that I knew you when.
+Andy Bumatai - Toolin' Around lol I think you're gonna hit a million before I hit 100k... but 100k in this little genre is pretty awesome!
Timeless wisdom !
I grew up riding dirt, no lessons after i knew the controls, learned all the lessons the hard way. Getting loose on the pavement never scares me cause its like sliding through the dirt.
+Battle Born Supermoto I still have a long way to go before I'd be able to control a slide on pavement, I think. Last time I slid on pavement I spent more time on my back than on the bike :)
Stunting also helps! Some guy slammed on his brakes when i was riding him kind of close trying to make it through the intersection. Ended up doing a stoppie and landing sideways behind him. The being stupid helps when it gets scary.
Great video even though its older. I appreciate the tips as I am just beginning my off road riding after riding Harleys for lots of years. The area your riding in seems oddly familiar. I am in Four Corners on the Colorado side. May just see you on the trail! Thanks again. I'll check out the rest now
Our group had guys with beat up honda street bikes riding through those kind of trails, they would haul ass, get air-born and cross creeks right along with us.
Another great video Tyler. And you have a fantastic talent to explain stuff. For sure one day I will drive those 4,000 km to meet you!
+Michel Lévesque Right on Michel!
Great video, I'm sorry I laughed so hard when you flipped backward but the Oh Brent really got me! I need so much more practice on those hill climbs, I just freeze up and usually fall over, lol!
+Hawk Girl (Misty Varner) The really hard part about this hill was that it wasn't even that bad! I just took a terrible line to the left, then got over it, but whisky throttled out of it and ended up on my back! Ah well :)
Awesome video with great tips!!!
+Steve Goyette Thanks Steve!
Good info as always. The waddle is my best maneuver. Especially on my 500+ pound vstrom haha.
+Lonetraveler NW Haha! If you're taking the Stom off road then whatever does the trick is awesome. That takes guts!
+eveRide ADV I did a 100 miles on the Idaho BDR on it. It was tough and lots of fun. Need to get a camera and start recording or else it didn't happen haha
Great tips MrE.
+Adventure2wheels Thanks! I've got a few more tips videos coming up and hopefully they help a few people out :)
Great video Tyler! I'd better get out there and practice on this frosty frosty day!
+Dan Hillam (adventureDan) Haha I kinda thought about that as I was releasing the video... not many people in the Northern Hemisphere will be able to get out and practice, but it's something to think about when it's a bit frosty!
Overall there are two simple keys for riding adventure motorcycles off-road - get lots of experience and swap street tires for serious dual-sport tires. (Get Continental TKC-80s. Their traction on the street and their longevity are uncompromised by their badass treads).
Here are some basic off-road skills…
• Favor the rear brake except in emergencies, in which case try your best to straighten the front wheel first before using the front brake and rear brake together. Using the front brake tends to make the front tire knife into the dirt surface and trip the bike up.
• Similarly, keep the wheels straight when turning from asphalt to dirt, ideally making the turn completely on the asphalt part and entering the dirt surface at a 90° angle. If you enter the dirt at a shallower angle, treat it like a curve and counterbalance (see below).
• Know when to be aggressive on the throttle and when to be gentle on it (sometimes the best defense is a good offense, other times overconfidence will hurt). Speed and momentum are crucial on the softer stuff, but too much will backfire and destabilize the bike. You have to develop a feel for exactly how much throttle by practicing on different surfaces.
• Ride standing up in rougher terrain. That makes all the difference because it lowers the bike's center of gravity and makes it more maneuverable. Remember to keep your knees slightly bent to allow your legs to flex, and lean slightly forward on straight sections, more forward the steeper any climbs get. On downhills, reverse that and keep your butt rearwards.
• When encountering a road with ruts, either stay inside the ruts or outside the ruts. The problem is continually going back and forth in and out of a rut, making it an edge trap, which can throw the bike down. If the rut is so narrow that your tires are continually hitting against the sides of the rut, that's an edge trap, so only ride outside of that rut.
• When riding on softer stuff, shift your weight rearwards to give the rear tire more bite - that also has the advantage of making the front tire "ski" more, creating less drag and making it less likely to trip you.
• Counterbalance generously on curves, getting your hips outside the lean and weight on the outside pegs. You should be one gear lower for the speed - that discourages swinging wide and gives you more engine braking if you encounter a surprise around the bend. Your outside leg will be mostly bent, the inside leg mostly straight. Know that you can always make your turn sharper by leaning further (I usually like to just straighten out my lower side arm for that).
• When going over mounds, you need to use finesse on the throttle, going from aggressive to gentle at just the right moment heading up, then be relaxed and confident while finessing the rear brake as you go down the other side. Like with everything else, you get better at it with practice.
• When encountering hard obstacles you can't maneuver around, (with your butt off the seat and legs flexed), as the front tire gets to the obstacle, hit the throttle a little as you pull up on the handlebars while leaning slightly rearwards (as if to wheelie but not actually doing so) then pogo-stick the rear suspension as the obstacle reaches your rear tire. Practice that in an empty parking lot with a piece of two-by-four.
And here's a good video if you ever get seriously stuck...
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love this channel
+Buzzman Fly This channel loves you back :)
Nice job there Mr.eveRide. Oh and thanks again for the stickers! Holy fast shipping Batman.
+Gunner40Five Well you ARE in Utah :)
Great video. The older I get, the more I sit. Thanks for not poo pooing on the waddle :D
+The FLB Club Bro you know I love the waddle! hahahahah I do it all the time... I've got no shame :)
From Philippines : “Thnk U”
Hi Fred Gassit's, see aehy've only got basic experience in dirt bikes and you know it there's things that if you're going fast enough you'll bounce over them and things that stop you, going into gear carrying dirt bikes means lifting said dirt bikes over logs so look at the 125cc it's light and if you're into kick start get kick/electric because when you're on a hill you can use electric start.
Good video bro! Lots of good footage. Good basic tips. I'd like to see your tips explained in more detail over a single stretch of trail at a time though with all of the necessary inputs explained.
+iRide uWatch I'm on it amigo! Thanks :)
i went up a grade 8 -9 hill today 160 meter climb up very dry loose dirt very steep with 5 foot erosion kickers that wash your speed off , damn steep climb in thick forest , got up only just with half worn 606 and 15x41 gearing , it took all of my 40 years off road skills to get the drz 400 up this mofo of hill ,no other way out ,had to back track from a fallen tree blocking trail , dont go down hills you dont think you can get back up ,,,hehe
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+ADV-QLD Haha that's great advice! Good work on that gnarly hill climb!
This really helps me prepare for off road. I'll be moving in a month from the city to the desert. Excellent tutorial.
Did it help?
@@sputnik5s436 It did help me. I got a tiger 1050 because the sport just wasn't doing well, go figure lol. I don't do anything like off the trail riding but the ranches I go to don't have paved roads, it's all rocky.
I actually hurt my knee, badly while waddling in stuff I should have been standing in. Standing is the standard and especially keeping the ball of the feet on the peg's on the nasty stuff so you keep traction in the rear and keep your toes out of the way of things that could potentially catch your feet otherwise.
+Gnarlington Ahhhh man so true! I have smacked my toes plenty of times, but before I stood up I'd waddle through everything, and I was always wrecking my knees and falling over.
Really good info. Thanks. I'm just starting to go off-road. And, these very simple but very helpfull tips.
+tankas Glad to help tankas! Thanks for the kind words :)
Thanks for a great channel. love the videos and tips. I recently got back into dual sport after 20 years. I picked up a 96 dr350SE and have been fixin on her since. I'll be in st.George over presidents day weekend. Hopefully be able to hit a few trails while I'm there.
+desertghost Very cool! Excellent choice on the bike, as well. I am jealous of your 6th gear!
First of all I love the great tips as always, who am I kidding I love the crash and then comes the tips haha. stay safe
+Tankerman Hahahahah crashing is just the way I learn! Nothing solidifies the riding tip of "GET UP ON THE TANK!" better than a hefty loop-out and some mashed up ribs!
Great footage, got myself a 250 dual to use through winter and I've done some mild of road since, it's an absolute riot but I'm still trying to get comfortable with the less grippy stuff (been on road bikes for 7 years so im rather more used to having things stick!) Great video I'll try and put this into practice!
this is great...so yesterday i dropped well more like gracefully layed my brand new klr on the ground..i went to kick up the stand and my little legs hand other plans i held the bike at a 45 for about 30 seconds trying to upright it and not drop it while the whole time hitting the horn so everyone saw my struggle so i said screw it and laid it down gental like laughed and picked it back up which wasnt too bad
+Josh Goldberg HHAHAHAHAHAH! Oh man that sounds like an epic first drop :) KLRs are invincible, though... but even then, I'm glad you laid it down gentle. It's always scary to lay a bike down for the first time, and man I don't know how many times I've held the bike at a 45 in that life-or-death situation trying not to fall over! Hahaha 90% of the time I lost :D
thanx for sharing! useful stuff indeed!
+Rune Holthen Thanks Rune!
Great advice video for a noob, thanks!
really good vid! I always try too give some advice to new riders but I feel I never get it out right! now I can just show them this :)
+DRZcoffeegirl Ride There should be some more vids like this coming soon. I can't decide on whether this Saturday's video should be another how-to, or something a bit more light-hearted... I'm thinking of doing a negative campaign style ad for "posers" in the community. What do you think? :)
Haha I think thats a fun and cool idea! Can't wait :)
Awesome film buddy! Cool videos. I started watching them after riding buddy’s dual sport bike. Fantastic feeling of freedom. Looking for my first something likely klr 650 unlikely drz400 price wise
Great tips thanks!
+RedRockDualSport ADV You're very welcome sir! When are we gonna go on a ride man? How are you feeling these days?
Very soon I hope. Its feeling good it gets better everyday. I go to the Doc tomorrow afternoon, I'm looking forward to good news! Both me and the bike are wanting and need some throttle therapy...
this is really helpfull! but it tuns our it was a power issue with me.. not as much my skill cap
Its more try out what help on your personnel riding style.i have done some critical obstacles "deep gravel with some bigger rocks between " way easyer sitting than standing and i try it many times to test what works for me. I sit most time and stand up if it necessary at thougher trials like obstacles or high speed or jumps..Its like kick start or electric start (sitting or standing) electric start can save you so much energy for riding especialy in a competition. Try it out for yourself its not a "law" to stand any time. Watch FIM Enduro comp riders no one there stands any time only when its necessary they stand.But hey ,hurting is no fun for me ha ha!
Great Tips! Fantastic Video! Thanks For Sharing!
+lonestarrider Thanks lonestar! Hopefully some upcoming tips videos will be helpful as well :)
Love your videos and have benefitted from many of your tips. Although you, personally, might not be the one to demo it, I would find it enormously helpful to see a video on how tall riders(like 6'3" or more with long legs and a 36" sleeve length) can best deal with standing and waddling. Standing on the pegs is not quite the same for someone my height as it is for someone of more normal size, like 5'8" - 5'10" !!!
+groundcrew2 I really, REALLY like this idea! Luckily I've got a tall friend who might be able to do a little demo video with me on the standing part!
Glad you like the idea. Can't wait to see what you do and hope it comes before I either go over the handlebars trying to stop or have my 500EXC drive right out from under me while accelerating !!!
Great video my friend! I learned alot from it. The stickers came today, like early Christmas, lol.
+john gnipper Very glad you got the stickers! Merry Christmas! :D
Basic information given in a great scenery!
Lean forward when going uphill, lean backwards downhill, keep center when going straight otherwise if you lean too far forward and have to brake you will fly forward and could take the bike with you.
ok I replayed that part a few times and laughed out loud each time. stay safe tyler hahaha
Wonderful as always, keep up the good work brother!!
+Bush Pig Thanks man!
In case you are accepting topics to include in future videos... What about navigating thru ruts. Is it better to completely avoid them and ride on the side of the trail, stick to one and pray, or try to cruise in between them?
+Jacobo Julio Menajovsky Oh man ruts are just such a beast. I think it always depends on the rut. My general rule right now for ruts is just to apply a generous amount of profanity :)
Good one Tyler - thanks!
+Allen Huling Thanks Allen!
Great vid, Tyler. Thanks for posting.
+AZ Patriot You're very welcome :)
Tyler, I love finding a few vids of yours I missed early on. Great advice in an approachable way. \m/
awesome ..Thanks for the great explanation
+stew tube You're very welcome! There will be a more detailed vid about standing (with some drills) coming out soon... hopefully that one helps some folks out, as well :)
good advice here !
Nice one man. thanks for breaking it down for the basics for us :)
+regulardan lol from watching you shred it, I don't think you'd need them. I've been missing your vids lately! Is it just too hot down there?
+eveRide ADV haha less of a shred and more of an awkward meander :) Yeah have been a bit slack on the old video front. It is warm at the moment. but that is no excuse. Work has just had me on full time and it is really draining. Really missing it though. I am itching to get some sort of vid out before xmas. Save travels out there mate!
Another great video my friend. Keep up the great work.
+Heartland Dual Sport I sure will try to! It's hard to keep riding when I keep getting smacked around. That loop-out was just yesterday, and I may be busted some ribs :\
eveRide ADV Oh man, that is not good, I have broke a couple in the past, you feel it with every breath. You don't notice how much you actually breath in a day until you have a broken rib or two. heheh. Good luck buddy and I hope you heal up soon.
Great tips mate. Well done.
+JoeJoe Moto Thanks JoeJoe!
Now I just need somewhere to ride... Closest park near me is 2 hours away, and from what i heard the trails are destroyed from 4wheelers and just unproper care of everything out there(even though it cost $10 to get in without an ABATE membership). I guess ill keep searching :L
+DeeKay That's so frustrating :\ I think it might be inevitable that even the "wild west" where I live will someday be like that. So sad :(
keep up the good work ! 👍
+Tommy Grenon Thanks Tommy!
What a lesson, young people has to given a chance, to feel,touch and,we have to give Ride. Ride doesn't one is perfect. Remember a life not.aDDrive safe.
hahahahaha I watched that over and over, not because I like seeing you get hurt but damn those were some funny sounds ahahahaha :-) Some great tips there, but maybe should have mentioned that waddling also wears you out really quickly, just something I have found as I am far...... very far from being an experience rider so I used it a lot in the past.
+Andy Pandy Motovlogs Ahhh yeah waddling can be really brutal if you're trying to lift the bike. Since I've adjusted the way I waddle I do it far less, but it's a lot less exhausting to just kinda keep the legs up to stabilize rather than to push. It's still far more work than standing, though!
Thanks bro :) i've learnt a lot from this video
Really dig the videos and tips you put together for our viewing pleasure. I know this may come a little off topic but have you ever done a comparison of the KLR650 and a DR650?
+Adventure Lust I want to SOOOOO BADLY! I don't know anybody nearby with a DR 650 that I could borrow! Hopefully someday soon!
awesome tips ^.^
+Keith Wong Thanks Keith :)
Fantastic video. I look forward to your standing video especially if you can talk about the transistion from standing to sitting during a hill climb as it relates to momentum. As always your videos are well done. BTW, what rally shroud is your friend running on his bike at 4:18?
+BlackshawClan I look forward to making that video for you! The fairing is a HDB or Highway Dirt Bike fairing... they're a bit pricey but VERY nice and last forever.
Awesome !!
Good stuff!!!
+The Steel Horseman Thanks sir!
Be sure want anything to do here would like to get any time to do with motors. The motor was falling down we're like to with menter to with wheels like a tricycle.
As my MSF instructor was always saying, "Beans and frank on the tank"
+FRAG-AFE LOL! I should probably start using that! But what about the ladies? lol
+eveRide ADV I believe Yuri said something to the effect of the ladies in the class are smarter than the guys and didn't need something that rhymed to remember it ;-)
man...i was thinking of getting a dual sport but all this standing seems like a lot of work...starting to question myself
Great vid! Jealous!
This is my first road th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and I have taken it out a handful of times and so far it is exceeding all of my expectations. I didn’t want to break the bank on a first bike and the herd is a great option for getting a fast bike with reliable components. I plan on riding this bike for many years to come. Thank you Sava!
Great advise! And, who's that ridiculously bad rider at 4:41?!
+California Dual Sport Riders I think you mean "ridiculously good looking and talented" :D
Does this apply to scramblers!
Also, #OHBRENT! sticker in the near future ;)?
+Gnarlington HAHAHAHA! That might need to be one!
eveRide ADV That would be awesome #OHBRENT! for 2016
i have a 1995 Honda Transalp 600, could I ride in those conditions with enough practice?
where can I buy a everide's shirt? you have shirts right? lol
+DeeDeesMission Not quite yet. We're still trying to get our heat press worked out.
At 1:35 the Sweatshirt!!! Can we get one?
Love watching your vids. New to riding, and some of your vids have been helpful. Like this one, have the standing down, now to work on the waddle. Enjoying the journey so far. Have a KLR 250! Hubby wanted to know about the sweatshirt at 1:35, he likes your vids too. Thank you for all the info
Every time you fall... "Oh Brent"
+Tyler Mitchell lol he's my hero hahaha
Jesus... do you always smash your body when riding with GoatCabeza? LOL
+b1pig This last time that wasn't Brent, it was Joe. I still call out his name, though! HAHHAA!
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